ACTUARIAL REVIEW: Analysis of Recent Polls Shows Trump Win and Possible Landslide

Shacknasty Shagrat

Has No Life - Lives on TB
It is easy for real Conservatives to succumb to the wave of Pro Clinton propaganda.
'in 1980, two weeks before the election, Jimmy Carter was leading Ronald Reagan 47 – 39.' I was an election officer and had followed the Reagan campaign closely.
Three or so days before the election, all the talking heads were looking shifty and stuttering and saying the election had 'tightened up', just to preserve their remaining credibility.
Be of good cheer. And work hard.
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'ACTUARIAL REVIEW: Analysis of Recent Polls Shows Trump Win and Possible Landslide

Jim Hoft Oct 18th, 2016 10:02 am


ACTUARIAL REVIEW: Analysis of Recent Polls Shows Trump Win and Possible Landslide

Jim Hoft Oct 18th, 2016 10:02 am 374 Comments


Ann Coulter warned in her book Slander in 2003 that the far left main stream media always uses polls to push their agenda. Polls can be skewed by selecting an unreasonable sample size, by asking lead up questions or by selecting more of a sample population of one side of an issue to achieve a desired result.

Main stream media skews polls to discourage potential voters from voting and has done it for years.

A good example of the media trying to shape a vote was in 1980. In a Gallup poll released on October 26th in 1980, two weeks before the election, Jimmy Carter was leading Ronald Reagan 47 – 39. Two weeks later Reagan won in such a landslide that Carter conceded before California was closed.

Another example of mainstream liberal media bias was in 1988. A Gallup Poll from July 26 showed Michael S. Dukakis leading George H. W. Bush by 17 points. Of course Bush went on to thump Dukakis in the general election.

This past week a number of polls show Hillary Clinton leading Donald Trump by various margins. One poll last week reported by NBC/WSJ showed Hillary ahead by 11. However, Truthfeed pointed out that NBC/WSJ didn’t mention that the poll was created by a Hillary Super PAC.

It’s also well known that the Monmouth University poll is run by a Hillary Huckster who recently was caught manipulating a poll and then lied about it.

Realclearpolitics.com takes an average of these distorted polls to come up with their analysis of the current race. Their efforts are a great example of the phrase – ‘garbage in – garbage out’.



With all the liberal distortions and dishonesty we decided to have a small team of actuarial and statistics professionals take a look at a couple of the recent polls to get their take on the reliability of these polls. They selected the recent FOX poll from October 14 showing Hillary up by 7 and the WSJ/NBC poll from October 16 showing Hillary with an 11 point lead.

The first observation is that both polls are heavily skewed towards Democrats. At a high level, the FOX poll consists of 43 Dems to 36 Reps to 21 Other while the NBC poll shows 44 Dems to 37 Reps to 19 Other.

By selecting more Dems the polls are designed to provide a Dem result.


Our experts next analyzed the data and calculated results using the same data from the two surveys on a split of 40 Dems, 40 Reps and 20 Other. The results show that using either sets of data Trump comes out ahead with a larger margin of victory using the FOX data.

Clearly the polls using data that is heavily weighted towards Democrat voters is incorrectly skewed.

This year Republicans crushed their previous record in the primaries for number of votes by 150%. Their old record was 20 million and this year 31 million voted in the primaries.

The Democrats on the other hand had 7 million votes less than their record year in 2008 with 30 million this year compared to 37 million in 2008.

Also, the primaries were heavily contested on both sides resulting in factions from each party vowing not to vote for the party candidate. The impact of these two groups is difficult to judge. The percentage of these voters that change parties is probably limited. If anything, the Sanders people will probably be more likely to vote for Trump since he is an outsider and many of them will never vote for Crooked Hillary.

Finally, it is difficult to determine what the independent voters will do but many independent voters partook in the primaries to vote for Trump. Therefore it is more likely that Independent voters vote for Trump as well.

If more Democratic voters vote for Trump than Republicans vote for Hillary and more Independents vote for Trump than Hillary, both scenarios which are highly likely, then the results of the general election will likely be a Trump landslide.

Let’s face it NOBODY likes Hillary and NOBODY trusts Hillary.

Nobody trusted Hillary before WikiLeaks. Trump is filling arenas around the country but Hillary can barely fill half a high school gymnasium. Her VP candidate Tim Kaine can’t even get 50 people at an event.

Maybe the current polls are not just inaccurate – maybe they are dead wrong

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...polls-shows-trump-win-and-possible-landslide/
 

Racing22

Crew Chief
I've been saying this for months. If you dig deep into the polls and look at their samples and methodology, you'll see that they always over sample Dems in the polls, which gives Hillary the lead. The current electorate in the country is maybe 3 points different, but the current polls usually sample 6% to 10% more Dems than Repubs, to keep Hillary in the lead. Plus, the Independents lean towards Trump.

Another BIG tell-tail is the turnout for the Primaries. Repubs had record breaking turnout while the Dems had BIG turn-downs.

Think about it, if Hillary was really and truly up by 7 points nationally (Obama beat Romney by 4), why is her campaign and the media still throwing out so much trash on Trump? Answer, because they know the TRUTH on the internals of the polls, and it ain't good!!
 

OldArcher

Has No Life - Lives on TB
My prediction comes from the size and enthusiasm of the rallies.....
Trump....Landslide!!!

Concur- unless they, the LibTurd POS PTB's steal it, or cancel the election. Then, all bets are off, and CW II kicks-off, with LOTS of bangs...

GBY&Y's

Maranatha

OldARcher
 

Bob1313

Membership Revoked
I've been saying this for months. If you dig deep into the polls and look at their samples and methodology, you'll see that they always over sample Dems in the polls, which gives Hillary the lead. The current electorate in the country is maybe 3 points different, but the current polls usually sample 6% to 10% more Dems than Repubs, to keep Hillary in the lead. Plus, the Independents lean towards Trump.

Another BIG tell-tail is the turnout for the Primaries. Repubs had record breaking turnout while the Dems had BIG turn-downs.

Think about it, if Hillary was really and truly up by 7 points nationally (Obama beat Romney by 4), why is her campaign and the media still throwing out so much trash on Trump? Answer, because they know the TRUTH on the internals of the polls, and it ain't good!!


They also over sample women and independents, most have independents in the 25 to 30% range
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
Rasmussen is probably one of the more 'honest' pollsters in the way they do their polling and they are showing the race pretty much a dead heat.


White House Watch: Down to the Wire?
Wednesday, October 19, 2016

Dead even. With nearly one-in-10 voters still looking beyond the top four candidates or undecided and less than three weeks to go until Election Day.

Today’s Rasmussen Reports White House Watch telephone and online survey shows Democrat Hillary Clinton and Republican Donald Trump each picking up 42% support among Likely U.S. Voters. Seven percent (7%) still prefer Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson, while one percent (1%) opt for Green Party nominee Jill Stein. But three percent (3%) like some other candidate in the race, and six percent (6%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Yesterday, it was Clinton 42%, Trump 41%. Clinton edged back into a two-point lead at the beginning of the week after falling behind by two at the end of last week.

Rasmussen Reports updates its White House Watch survey daily Monday through Friday at 8:30 am Eastern based on a three-day rolling average of 1,500 Likely U.S. Voters.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...ections/election_2016/white_house_watch_oct19
 

Anti-Liberal

Veteran Member
The election will be stolen. No way in hell the elites will have anyone so anti-establishment be the so called 'leader of the free world'. Vote if it makes you sleep better at night.
 

Bardou

Veteran Member
My prediction comes from the size and enthusiasm of the rallies.....
Trump....Landslide!!!

I agree with you. Also, there's lots of Trump/Pence signs here and I've only seen 1 Hillary sign. However, the Hillary sign was missing yesterday but the guy running for Senator was still up. The owner of the house is a gynecologist. A real pussy! Go figure....

P.S. I belong to a polling place called .yougov (something like that). I take polls all the time - took one yesterday asking who I was voting for. After tonight's debate, they asked me to participate in a poll - which I will. This polling company is used quite often in the MSM. I get my digs in as well at their website.
 

dogmanan

Inactive
The election will be stolen. No way in hell the elites will have anyone so anti-establishment be the so called 'leader of the free world'. Vote if it makes you sleep better at night.


So are you saying you are staying home on Nov 8 and not voting, if that's the case then that tells me you are voting for the beast hillery.

IMHO not voting is a vote for the beast.
 

KKC

Veteran Member
I sure hope you guys are right. I'm carrying a lot of anxiety right now. Trump has taken some serious blows lately. He's campaigning his ass off just to keep up with Hilary who isn't campaigning at all. He's had like 81 and she's had only 31 and she's higher than him in most polls. She's gotten there with much less effort. And lets be real guys. the MSM can't cook all the polls. IDK... I'm just worried.
 
Laziness, Cynicism or Hypocrisy cloaked in Nobility......

I have noted more than a few dissemblers here on this forum who are putatively for Trump, but not so secretly hoping he loses.

There are so many "tells" in their repeated refrains.

Trump will have a very good night in the debate. The way the week has unfolded and the way the stars are aligned he very well could end up with a knock-out.

Hillary could blow a gasket despite all of the intensive medical preps beforehand. Or she may miscalculate in something she says.
 

Zoner

Veteran Member
Polls don't matter. It's WHO counts the votes that matter

From Martin Armstrong

Trump’s “Ethics Reform” is one of the major reasons the elite Republican support Hillary.


Besides banning members and staff from becoming lobbyists for 5 years, Trump has added to that list TERM LIMITS FOR CONGRESS! In other words, he is proposing the END of career politicians.


This, along with his promise to repeal Obamacare, which was really to line the pockets of hospitals so they no longer had to treat people for free, as well as reducing the corporate tax rate to 15% to bring back almost $3 trillion they keep offshore, with his stated policy to end the military nation building (which Eisenhower warned about and JFK said was the sole issue undermining Bretton Woods in the 1960 debate), are probably the most profound proposals in the campaign that would really make a difference.

This is why the “ESTABLISHMENT” are so hell-bent on defeating Trump at all costs.


The Empire is Striking Back shutting down Wikileaks and pulling the plug on RT, and forcing the head of FOX News to resign. The Democrats were hiring people to pretend to be Trump supporters to start violence to blame that on Trump supporters. This is a scorched earth campaign to deny the right of the people to seek political change at the voting booth.


Washington is NOT about to allow Trump to win the White House and they will tear up the Constitution if they have to.


There is no way these people will accept term limits. Of course, there is no way to save the world without term limits. So we must crash and burn but these people will start World War III to divert the people from any possible rebellion against the “ESTABLISHMENT” at any cost.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/...-election/trumps-proposals-for-ethics-reform/
 

Racing22

Crew Chief
New poll out today by Reuters/Ipsos, it shows Hillary up by 4 points...

But, scroll to page 14 of the press release, it shows they surveyed 40% Dems and 26% Repubs.

Does anyone believe there are 14% more Dem voters right now?? So, they over sample 14% MORE Dems to get Hillary a 4% advantage.

What if they surveyed a more correct sample, where Dems were only a few points higher than Repubs. What would the results be?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2016/2016_Reuters_Tracking_-_Core_Political_10.18_.16_.pdf
 

33dInd

Veteran Member
well.just go vote and we will know for fact certain on November the 8th Mountain time.......right?............right?
 

Anti-Liberal

Veteran Member
I have noted more than a few dissemblers here on this forum who are putatively for Trump, but not so secretly hoping he loses.

There are so many "tells" in their repeated refrains.

Trump will have a very good night in the debate. The way the week has unfolded and the way the stars are aligned he very well could end up with a knock-out.

Hillary could blow a gasket despite all of the intensive medical preps beforehand. Or she may miscalculate in something she says.

I sure you were just one of the many who cheered yourself to sleep when the repubs won the house AND the senate thinking thing were going to change. Nope, you were duped. Now you're all spun up over your guy and you'll be one of the first in line to cast your vote. Every election cycle you people get pumped up just to be let down.

I really do hope Trump wins, so you're wrong again. Hope the 'stars are aligned' for you on election day . SMH
 

Josie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Polls are so very screwy that I generally don't pay much attention to them. Personally, this election year, if I was asked, I would tell them Clinton even though Trump has my vote no matter what. Just to mess with their data. I wonder how many other people are doing the same.
 

Flippper

Time Traveler
There is no way clintonista is getting even 10% of actual votes, all the 'dead heat' or leading by X% is cock and bull. Democrat voters got an eyeful of what a political democrat stands for after they got their messiah in office; continual war, lies, coverups, deception, skyrocketing health care and higher taxes that have been hitting them hard. At least oblahblah pretended to be likable before he got in office, shrillary reeks dictator and I think Democrat voters are afraid and sick of the promises that never quite materialize; they don't trust her, especially after she stole bernunist's delegates. A wild guess that at least a third of those voters are now voting trump. Others who hate or distrust trump and hillary will vote for anyone but them.

Rally photos say it all, when you have to pay high school kids to attend or the room would be empty, you know everything the presstitutes are saying is lies (and this was before the most damaging wikileaks exposed the beast and her party). I think most of you folks know it. If shrillary got 3% of the votes, I'd say that is about right, trump perhaps 78%.
 

Last Resort

Inactive
New poll out today by Reuters/Ipsos, it shows Hillary up by 4 points...

But, scroll to page 14 of the press release, it shows they surveyed 40% Dems and 26% Repubs.

Does anyone believe there are 14% more Dem voters right now?? So, they over sample 14% MORE Dems to get Hillary a 4% advantage.

What if they surveyed a more correct sample, where Dems were only a few points higher than Repubs. What would the results be?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2016/2016_Reuters_Tracking_-_Core_Political_10.18_.16_.pdf

I might be more inclined to possibly believe polls a little bit if the sampling percentages reflected the populace. For example, according to Gallup, the sampling ratio regardless of sample size should be around 27% Republican, 32% Democrat, and 40% Independent. I haven't seen a poll yet that accurately reflects that. Here in Florida, it should be 36% Republican, 38% Democrat, and 26% other/Independent/no affiliation.

Crooks and liars, all of them.
 

Illini Warrior

Illini Warrior
if you don't have any other reason to doubt the polling - just use the debate polls for an example - in what God forsaken evil world did Hellery win the 1st and especially the 2nd Debate - yet the CNN and MSNBC evil cabal connived one ....
 

pinkelsteinsmom

Veteran Member
Of course he would win in a fair election in a landslide. You better turn your attention to the pasty faced electorate that will commit treason against you and america in about 20 days and gloat about it later. I want to know who these bastards are, list anyone?

These folks are the problem and right now we must turn the spotlight on these very special people that hold your very lives in their dirty palms.
 

TorahTips

Membership Revoked
So are you saying you are staying home on Nov 8 and not voting, if that's the case then that tells me you are voting for the beast hillery.

IMHO not voting is a vote for the beast.

You are assuming that your vote will be counted. It won't. Only the vote of George Soros will count. Your vote is simply cosmetic. This is all an illusion -- a big magic trick. There are no free elections in the US. My vote simply goes into the memory hole -- no farther than the damn machine itself. Discarded.
 

Seabear

Inactive
You are assuming that your vote will be counted. It won't. Only the vote of George Soros will count. Your vote is simply cosmetic. This is all an illusion -- a big magic trick. There are no free elections in the US. My vote simply goes into the memory hole -- no farther than the damn machine itself. Discarded.

We will see won't we? Since there are NSA and other personnel that have the skills to keep leaking Hillary's worst secrets. I guess it is not outside the realm of possibility they can do something substantial to address the hack of the e-voting....
 

BetterLateThanNever

Veteran Member
The election will be stolen. No way in hell the elites will have anyone so anti-establishment be the so called 'leader of the free world'. Vote if it makes you sleep better at night.

I thank God that we all don't have your attitude.

And yes, I will sleep better knowing that I at least tried to make a difference.
 

Josie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Of course he would win in a fair election in a landslide. You better turn your attention to the pasty faced electorate that will commit treason against you and america in about 20 days and gloat about it later. I want to know who these bastards are, list anyone?

These folks are the problem and right now we must turn the spotlight on these very special people that hold your very lives in their dirty palms.

Me too! And I want to know how a person gets to be one.
 

fporretto

Inactive
This is sometimes called the "Toothbrushing trap." Our dentists tell us we should – must, really – brush at least twice a day, and preferably after every meal. Surveys of brushing habits regularly suggest that that we’re doing as we’re told...even though most Americans only brush once a day, shortly after rising from their slumbers. Despite the absence of consequences from giving that “disfavored but true” answer, people are loath to “look bad” by giving it. Of course, when there are possible consequences – consider the polls that preceded the 1990 Nicaraguan election that elevated Violeta Chamorro over Daniel Ortega – the answers will be biased heavily in favor of the ones likely to reap the result the customer would prefer.

Pollsters know all of this – and use it.
 

uriah55

Contributing Member
And this is exactly how the main stream media wants you to think and feel. Stay strong and be confident.


I sure hope you guys are right. I'm carrying a lot of anxiety right now. Trump has taken some serious blows lately. He's campaigning his ass off just to keep up with Hilary who isn't campaigning at all. He's had like 81 and she's had only 31 and she's higher than him in most polls. She's gotten there with much less effort. And lets be real guys. the MSM can't cook all the polls. IDK... I'm just worried.
 

byronandkathy2003

Veteran Member
The election will be stolen. No way in hell the elites will have anyone so anti-establishment be the so called 'leader of the free world'. Vote if it makes you sleep better at night.

i will vote for trump not the hildabeast as i wont betray my country by voting for her and or not voting at all!.
 

Trivium Pursuit

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I am voting because good men took up arms and died to guarantee me the ability to do so. If they are miscounted, that can possibly be discovered and my vote properly reentered. if the election is stolen, then we shift into another area of existence, but regardless, I will have done my duty to the fallen.
 

thompson

Certa Bonum Certamen
I am voting because good men took up arms and died to guarantee me the ability to do so. If they are miscounted, that can possibly be discovered and my vote properly reentered. if the election is stolen, then we shift into another area of existence, but regardless, I will have done my duty to the fallen.

THANK YOU!
 

Doat

Veteran Member
I don't think the LEFT realizes what they have started. This all seems to be going south fast. It is more than just a Democrat or Republican.
If the election is stolen from Trump I now believe the nation will see some dark days ahead.
 

Dozdoats

Deceased
I have noted more than a few dissemblers here on this forum who are putatively for Trump, but not so secretly hoping he loses.

Psyops at its finest.
 

Be Well

may all be well
I have noted more than a few dissemblers here on this forum who are putatively for Trump, but not so secretly hoping he loses.

Psyops at its finest.

Creamer or Foval hired 15,000 internet "activists". And that could total a lot more than just 15,000 screen names.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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I sure hope you guys are right. I'm carrying a lot of anxiety right now. Trump has taken some serious blows lately. He's campaigning his ass off just to keep up with Hilary who isn't campaigning at all. He's had like 81 and she's had only 31 and she's higher than him in most polls. She's gotten there with much less effort. And lets be real guys. the MSM can't cook all the polls. IDK... I'm just worried.


That's because the Marxist MSM is doing her campaigning for her.

And let's be real. Yes they can.
 
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