How Trump’s detractors may have sabotaged their own October Surprise

Jonas Parker

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http://hotair.com/archives/2016/10/09/trumps-detractors-may-sabotaged-october-surprise/

How Trump’s detractors may have sabotaged their own October Surprise

posted at 9:31 am on October 9, 2016 by Jazz Shaw



Heading into tonight’s debates the theme for the evening has already been set by the media, along with everyone else who has been hoping that a giant sinkhole would open up and swallow Donald Trump like some sort of low rent Mothra in a budget Godzilla film. This narrative rests on the assumption that the video of Trump’s now infamous Bus Ride with Billy was the straw that broke the camel’s back and “everyone is fleeing the sinking ship.” Over at The Hill they’re keeping a running WHIP list of politicians who are pulling their support for the nominee. Less mentioned is the fact that these are mostly people who opposed Trump from the beginning and only came onboard when he began exceeding expectations in the polls.

So are these The End Days which everyone has been predicting? I wouldn’t be quite so hasty in nailing the coffin shut. Once the initial shock and awe has worn off you may find that those seeking to undermine Trump’s campaign have badly misplayed what could have been a winning hand. If the cable news authorities were going to quote any classic rock lyrics to script this moment it would be Jim Morrison singing about how This Is The End. But while the video was certainly a damaging broadside to the Trump campaign, the way this was handled was very possibly bungled. What could have really been the end of the line for The Donald may have been fumbled to the point where he has a path to recovery. There are three factors which may support this idea that I’d like to cover.

First. Voters want to be informed but they are frequently tuned off by the perception of dirty tricks.

It doesn’t take a genius in political history to suspect that something smells funny with the timing of the release of this story. First there is the issue of how this latest outrage arrived on the stage. Since there clearly won’t be any admissions regarding how we really reached this point, voters are expected to stick with the current media explanation. The story goes that it showed up by happenstance when someone happened to discover the video on the “dusty shelves of NBC’s Access Hollywood archives.” (A show which has literally been on the air for twenty years.)

Let’s think about that explanation for a moment. We’ve undergone an arc of political history where:

Trump was seriously talking about running for President from the early winter of 2014 until June 2015
Trump officially enters the race in June of 2015 and campaigns, rising in the polls through the end of the year
In February of 2016 Trump takes second in one caucus, then goes on to win a string of victories where he’s the delegate leader through the spring
By June of 2016, he’s essentially locked up the nomination and his competition largely folds
By August the conventions have passed and Trump is the official nominee facing Hillary Clinton, though lagging in the polls a bit
By September Trump is rebounding the polls and is looking like a serious threat to win the election

Now we are expected to believe that only then, after nearly two years of Trump blossoming on the political stage, somebody at the sprawling behemoth of NBC Universal woke up from a nap during a staff meeting and said, “Hey. Wait a minute, now. Didn’t we have about a bazillion interviews with this Trump fellow on Access Hollywood and other celebrity related programming where he was saying all sorts of goofy and potentially damaging stuff? And didn’t he do the Stern show a million times and talk about all sorts of pornographic, filthy stuff about strippers and what have you? Do you think we still have any of that lying around? Maybe it’s worth taking a look!”

Returning to one of my favorite old sayings… pull the other one. It’s got bells on it.

Second. Timing is everything and the gun went off in Act I

There seems to be universal agreement among cable news spokesmodels that this is the beginning of the end. The video was The Worst Thing Ever and is surely the death of the campaign, but There Is More To Come. It’s all downhill from here.

But is it? I’ve no doubt there’s plenty more waiting to be sprung from the vaults by Hillary Clinton’s supporters. Access Hollywood and other sources are likely sitting on miles of tape, waiting to drop bombs at what they deem auspicious times to keep the conversation away from Hillary Clinton’s many debacles and Wikileaks revelations. But how much worse can the rest of them be?

Unless they’ve actually got The Donald on camera confessing to a triple homicide it’s tough to imagine the rest of the treasure trove being anything other than more variations of what we’ve just seen. Take for example this release from Andrew Kaczynski at CNN. It contains one audio clip after another, mostly from the Howard Stern Show. Plenty of it is bawdy and offensive. Some is downright gross. And it probably would have been considered shocking if we hadn’t just sat through 36 hours of hearing the p***y grabbing story over and over and over again. At this point the quips from Stern’s show about his own daughter “having a nice rack” are just more of the same, if not almost tame by comparison. If the people who have been plotting this scheme all along had been thinking clearly they would have started the car in first gear and worked their way up to drag racing speed before the final debate. They should have started with a clip of Trump saying it was okay to call his daughter “a piece of a**.” Then jump to just the admission of trying to have sex with a married woman. Finally you move to the p***y grabbing material in the home stretch.

As it stand now you’ve already shocked the world. Any additional garrulous speeches on women as sexual objects for men’s gratification is just more of the same at this point.

NARRATOR: Trump said Scandalous, Sexist, Repulsive Thing Number 1!
AUDIENCE: Oh My God! That’s terrible! How could he have been nominated!
NARRATOR: Trump said Scandalous, Sexist, Repulsive Thing Number 2!
AUDIENCE: Oh dear! That’s pretty bad too.
NARRATOR: Trump said Scandalous, Sexist, Repulsive Thing Number 3!
AUDIENCE: Yes. We know. We get it. Wasn’t there something on The Weather Channel about a hurricane?

You get the idea. On to the final point:

Third. You’ve set up Trump for the debate to the point where he’d almost have to try to fail to meet expectations

At this point, how much worse can it get? There is no doubt a “town hall participant” queued up to ask about the tape, assuming the format doesn’t allow for Anderson Cooper or his partner to do the deed themselves. Everyone knows the question already so there’s no gotcha factor. The only mystery is how he’ll answer. Will he go after Bill? That’s the expectation. If he does, he’s deemed to be taking cheap shots, but that’s what was predicted. But what if he doesn’t? What if, rather than going after Bill’s sexual escapades, he just says that it was a different time, that’s not how he sees women and he’s apologized. From there he launches into the recent email revelations about Hillary.

If he does that the conversation about the Billy Bush tape is pretty much done. If Hillary tries to keep bringing it up she comes off as a bitter scold. If the moderators keep banging away on it after Trump acknowledges it and moves on, they poison their own performance by looking like they’re in the tank for Hillary.If they allow multiple audience members to keep bringing it up the question selection bias is obvious and produces the same result.

Can Trump pull off that sort of play? I honestly don’t know, but I wouldn’t exclude the possibility. A lot of professional politicos have been left looking awfully silly after predicting that The Donald couldn’t navigate the minefield of American politics for the last two years. He may just surprise everyone yet again. And if he does, the page is turned we’re back in a serious dogfight for last four weeks. Anderson Cooper would be left with little choice other than to abandon this shiny plaything and hit some policy topics.
 

Meadowlark

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I think most of the thunder was drowned out by Hurricane Mathew. Had they done this a week earlier, it could have a very different story and very damaging to the Trump campaign if CNN and the rest of the snews media had free reign to hammer away 24 7. But that is too late now, people will be more focused on the debate outcome. The moment has been lost.

The weird part is did they not know that there was a hurricane in the atlantic pegged to hit the US?
 

Illini Warrior

Illini Warrior
all I know - the very second Hellery even so much as sqeeks out something pertaining to this latest Trump smear - Trump just unloads on Hellery and her marriage ....
 

Troke

Deceased
I think most of the thunder was drowned out by Hurricane Mathew. Had they done this a week earlier, it could have a very different story and very damaging to the Trump campaign if CNN and the rest of the snews media had free reign to hammer away 24 7. But that is too late now, people will be more focused on the debate outcome. The moment has been lost.

The weird part is did they not know that there was a hurricane in the atlantic pegged to hit the US?

Talking head this morning. Turns out the reporter that spilled it thought there was another on the same track so there was a race to publish first. I think the WP won. Possible Pulitzer there depending on how things go.
 

Heliobas Disciple

TB Fanatic
It was reported that both Ryan and Reibus knew in advance about the tape. That leads me to conclude (maybe erroneously, but it's just a theory) that Trump knew about the tape they were planning to reveal RIGHT BEFORE or AFTER THE DEBATE too. And I am starting to think HIS team is the one that leaked it early. The timing - in the middle of a hurricane, before the debate - was the best timing FOR HIM. If so - he gets even more points in my book. Control and damage control. Pick the time that it would hurt him the least to release it.

I have also read that tonight a new Bill Clinton rape/assault victim who we've never heard from before is going to come forward on a radio show. She was a reporter in Arkansas at the time. If Team Trump knew about the interview, it would be wise to let everyone, in the middle of a hurricane which was also competing for headlines in the news, hypocritically and sanctimoniously rant about his words, and then after the debate, let the bombshell be dropped of what Bill actually did. Actions vs. words. Even more damaging if Hillary tried to silence or threaten the victim.
see: http://conservativetribune.com/bill-clinton-accuser/

So, have faith in Trump. He didn't get this far with the entire MSM, republican and democratic machines trying to bring him down if he wasn't made of the right stuff. We have a month to go - I think he's just getting started.



HD
 

Meadowlark

Has No Life - Lives on TB
If true then both Rathole Ryan and Pubic faced Priebus got Trumped again, not to mention the Shrillary talking head MSM bots. The alleged RNC movements to suspend supporting Trump and calls for him to step aside today seem like cockroaches scurrying for cover when the lights are turned on.

Meadowlark Likes!
 

Troke

Deceased
DD went to work for a Big Name law firm in DC. (That's right, that DC.) Was appalled at the language of the associates. Sounded like Trump is supposed to have sounded. Clerical staff was unhappy but afraid to complain. DD was not. Went into the Main Man and told him that if the associates couldn't control their mouths they might lose their clerical staff (And if they were like most I have known, they actually did most of the work.)

Main Man got the message and chit-chat around the office became much more congenial to modest feminine ears. (Modest feminine? You can tell how long ago that was.)
 

Rabbit

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I haven't seen or heard what Trump said, but I know it's bad. But all of these poor insulted people, mostly reporters, are not at all insulted by the lyrics of any given rap song.

I call it thump, thump music and just the little bit I've understood from the radio of a passing ghetto rat car, it's horrible, is anyone insulted, no, give those thugs a Grammy.
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
Can Trump pull off that sort of play? I honestly don’t know, but I wouldn’t exclude the possibility. A lot of professional politicos have been left looking awfully silly after predicting that The Donald couldn’t navigate the minefield of American politics for the last two years. He may just surprise everyone yet again. And if he does, the page is turned we’re back in a serious dogfight for last four weeks. Anderson Cooper would be left with little choice other than to abandon this shiny plaything and hit some policy topics.

Isn't that what Trump did in his "birther" newsconference?

He shrugged.

He can shrug now and blow it off as a joke and say he's all grown up now, and can't we discuss Howard Stern's jockstrap?

Or something...maybe Presidential?

Dobbin
 

Bardou

Veteran Member
I haven't seen or heard what Trump said, but I know it's bad. But all of these poor insulted people, mostly reporters, are not at all insulted by the lyrics of any given rap song.

I call it thump, thump music and just the little bit I've understood from the radio of a passing ghetto rat car, it's horrible, is anyone insulted, no, give those thugs a Grammy.

What's most insulting is that liberals and Democrats approve of gay marriages, approve of businesses getting shut down for not providing services to gays, and the most egregious is their approval of sodomy between men. They do not believe in any moral values and for them to be appalled at Trumps locker room talk IMHO is a laugh. F'ing hypocrites and the Clinton's especially Bill are the ring leaders. I'll add one more liberal/Democrat insult - and that's abortion. They have no problem in dumping a fetus and selling the parts. And they think locker room chat is horrific? Pussies, all of them.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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Just saw a Facebook meme, it was a pic of The Donald in a gun shop.

Said, "Vote for Trump, he likes guns and p***y too".
 

Bardou

Veteran Member
Just saw a Facebook meme, it was a pic of The Donald in a gun shop.

Said, "Vote for Trump, he likes guns and p***y too".

At least we know that Trump is a straight male who loves women. Makes me happy and not embarrassed about what our current President is.

obama-putin-contrast.jpg
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Can someone please point me to the post with Trump and Jeb! with the caption "Trump grabs some p***y", or something similar?"

I can't find it, and I really want to show it to hubby.
TIA

Summerthyme
 

Seabear

Inactive
If you read the latest Wiki Leaks. Hillary and Co. wanted a Trump, Walker and or Cruz to emerge because they felt they could be disparaged by their views and character outside the Republican fold.

What they did not count on is the fact that PC had so turned off the majority of Americans especially Obama's ridiculous push for Transgendered chaos etc.

SO in walks Trump and they have a night mare develop. SO now it's misogynist which right out of today's headlines on the MSM websites.

Their view is the perfect modern man is a metrosexual that stays two steps behind his wife or significant other... Real women gag and real men do as well.

So when a throwback like DJT comes along with his testosterone filled rallies and pressers, they are aghast again that he isn't tanking like a rock.

If he had stayed a Democrat and wanted to act like Bill Clinton then he would have none of these issues to face.... Think about that.
 

Seabear

Inactive
Can someone please point me to the post with Trump and Jeb! with the caption "Trump grabs some p***y", or something similar?"

I can't find it, and I really want to show it to hubby.
TIA

Summerthyme


Here it is for DH
 

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Delta

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I have not liked Trump or Clinton. But I watched Trump's apology--and was impressed. I do not know if it was sincere or political. But, he admitted his error and apologized. That was so refreshing compared to the, "gee, I feel bad if anyone was offended" that we usually get from politicians. And the whole thing just reminds us of the Clintons and their sordid affairs. I divorced my wife for doing the kinds of things Bill did: Hillary did not. Trump apologized for saying things no worse that I've said at times in my life--for which I regret. It isn't too hard for me to recognize myself in one of them over the other.

For me, this whole thing hurts Clinton more than Trump.
 

byronandkathy2003

Veteran Member
I haven't seen or heard what Trump said, but I know it's bad. But all of these poor insulted people, mostly reporters, are not at all insulted by the lyrics of any given rap song.

I call it thump, thump music and just the little bit I've understood from the radio of a passing ghetto rat car, it's horrible, is anyone insulted, no, give those thugs a Grammy.

call them what they are COON TUNES !.
 
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