Alternate perspective on Comey Debacle today.

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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Once the initial outrage wears off, this could very possibly be seen as a fortuitous event.

Several things are jumping out at me about the whole deal.

I have mentioned before...

Hilldabeest will be easier for Trump to beat than Bernie, a lot of his voters will transition to Trump. Some in protest, some because they are swayed by his non-politician status.

If she gets charged now, the presidential pardon will be out within minutes of her getting papers. It will be harder to get things to stick later. She really will walk.



Todays events.

This gave Trump YUUUUUUUUGE opportunity.

If she were to have been indicted today, it would have zero effect on her base. In fact it would probably have given them a whole new round of talking points about how crooked the republicans are and gobs of other things for them to rally behind...yada-yada...you know the drill.

What has actually happened is, the country has seen just how corrupt the present regime is. Hilldabeast suffers in the polls from "low trustworthiness" numbers, today's events just exacerbated that perception in a large way. I would guess that even uninformed, ambivalent citizens are taking note now.

It has also served to galvanize and energize Trumps supporters, the pisstivity level is off the scale tonight.

Comey's presser.

Remember, he answers to zero... first and foremost. There is no doubt in my mind that he was given instructions on how to play this, or more accurately...what the official outcome would be. The decision to not indict was a political hot-potato, nobody wanted to be the one to officially make that call. Comey was the one left standing when the music stopped. He was BLATANTLY sacrificed (as evidenced by the incoming he is catching tonight) to save that hippo Lynch's career.

Now...look at how he did the presser.

He spelled out everything that hilldabeest did wrong, spelled it out like a prosecutor would have, then in the last two minutes threw in the retraction. He played it as well as he could with a gun to his head, IMHO.

It reminds me of the pilot during the Vietnam war who was forced to do a televised "confession". The whole time, he was waving his hands around with his fingers crossed.


I really think that when the dust settles and smoke clears, this whole event will be to Trump's advantage...I hope he plays it right.

So far he has seized most opportunities and run with them.
 

Be Well

may all be well
Did you see my comment on the long thread? :-)

Here it is.

Something occurred to me. Remember the photo of Hitlery years ago, with a solider, and he's using the hand sign meaning something like ""Under Duress"?

I'm wondering if Comey said what he said - FREAKING OBVIOUS she intentionally committed crimes - and then exonerating her, as a way of saying "I know she's a criminal but I am forced to say she isn't" - Under Duress. What do you think?

I'll so a search - wow, easy to find!

hillary_soldier_finger_duress.PNG
 

Publius

On TB every waking moment
There is without a reasonable doubt there is much black mail going on. Hillary may be toast yet just give it time as this is America and not going to give up that easily.
 
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Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
Did you see my comment on the long thread? :-)

Here it is.

Something occurred to me. Remember the photo of Hitlery years ago, with a solider, and he's using the hand sign meaning something like ""Under Duress"?

I'm wondering if Comey said what he said - FREAKING OBVIOUS she intentionally committed crimes - and then exonerating her, as a way of saying "I know she's a criminal but I am forced to say she isn't" - Under Duress. What do you think?

I'll so a search - wow, easy to find!

hillary_soldier_finger_duress.PNG
I had never seen that pic. Wonderful, it's like an anti illuminati hand shake..
 

Racing22

Crew Chief
The decision to not indict was a political hot-potato, nobody wanted to be the one to officially make that call. Comey was the one left standing when the music stopped.

I posted in the other thread a thought along those lines. Comey served everything out on a large platter today, he just didn't want to cut open the potato. So, by putting out EVERYTHING, he handed the football off to anyone else to force the issue and MAKE Lynch press charges.
 

Ben Sunday

Deceased
With all due respect to the OP, I just don't see any upside to today's debacle. Hillary essentially got a free pass to her January coronation. The media will throw all of this in Trump's face like it was his fault that Hitlery was being hassled all this time. She sure as hell is not innocent but pressure from Obama, the media plus whatever corrupt influence that Bubba and Lynch exerted made sure that the whitewash of today was nearly a sure thing.

I believe Trump is really in trouble with the poll numbers. I further believe that Hitlery will show a significant boost in HER poll numbers by the end of the week. America is in even greater trouble considering the corruption and blind side deals spinning like tops in the Fedgov.

An awful and depressing picture as we look down the road.
 

poppy

Veteran Member
I wouldn't give Comey too much credit. He's a very political guy who, as James Rosen pointed out tonight on Fox News, always seems to be happy carrying water for the dems. He appointed the special prosecutor who found Scooter Libby guilty of far less than Clinton did and he tangled with Bush Jr. over the language in a terror law. He sided with the dems on the language and Bush caved. He used weasel words today. He said no one else in government knew what he was going to say today. That may well be true. They likely didn't know what he would say word-for-word. However, it is clear they did know what the outcome would be.
 

jazzy

Advocate Discernment
i am wondering about something i read earlier, probably here. that with no charges against clinton, essentially saying none of her emails were that important and she was just careless, can someone use the FOIA to force them all out in the open>
if there are things there the gov does not want public, then they have to reject or hide the docs, proving she DID allow top secret sensitive info to be exposed.

sort of a chess move---is hillery and obama more exposed now thinking they have skated?
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
i am wondering about something i read earlier, probably here. that with no charges against clinton, essentially saying none of her emails were that important and she was just careless, can someone use the FOIA to force them all out in the open>
if there are things there the gov does not want public, then they have to reject or hide the docs, proving she DID allow top secret sensitive info to be exposed.

sort of a chess move---is hillery and obama more exposed now thinking they have skated?

That's already been openly discussed by interviewed members of the House and Senate.
 

Doomer Doug

Deceased
Sorry, I am not buying this BS. The blunt truth is the director of the FBI, the premier law enforcement official for the Federal Government, just gave a pass to Mrs. Clinton. The fact he listed what she did, said anybody else who did this would be charged, but he wasn't going to charge her is a clear indication of how corrupt the Federal government is. The idea he did this as some kind of protest, or to reveal this, is hogwash.

The evidence indicated conclusively that Hellary the BITCH is guilty of perjury, treason, and obstruction of justice. The FBI director said that didn't matter. The FBI director said that she is above the law, beyond the scope of being held accountable. After everything is factored in, no matter how many tea leaves you read, or analyze his behavior or statements, the objective reality is he totally failed in his mission of upholding not only the law, but the ENTIRE LEGAL SYSTEM.

The amount of damage this political hack has done, to the core foundation of our American Republic is beyond measure. He has, at one fell swoop, completely shattered the foundation of our legal and political system. The damage is vast, lethal and will be viewed by future generations, assuming there are any, as a decisive and total failure of the American system of justice.

I do not give this corrupt fool a pass. I do not let him pass go and I do not give him a get out of jail card. HE IS A TRAITOR.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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While this may be true...

The amount of damage this political hack has done, to the core foundation of our American Republic is beyond measure. He has, at one fell swoop, completely shattered the foundation of our legal and political system. The damage is vast, lethal and will be viewed by future generations, assuming there are any, as a decisive and total failure of the American system of justice.

It still gives the Donald a lot to work with.
 
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MDINMT

Veteran Member
I think Comey did the best thing he could under the circumstances. He left the case against shrillery pristine because he knew charges would have gained a parden. This way, she gets the nomination,pisses off the berniebots and Trump kicks her so hard she wears her butt for earmuffs. Then Prez Trump prosecutes about march of 2017.
 

imaginative

keep your eye on the ball
Here’s why I’m DELIGHTED about the FBI’s verdict on Hillary…

Written by Allen West on July 5, 2016

Of course, the news cycle is completely dominated by FBI Director James Comey’s announcement yesterday recommending no criminal charges against Hillary Clinton. And my response is GREAT! I can’t thank Director Comey enough for coming to this decision.

My concern has always been that Barack Obama would release the hounds on Mrs. Clinton and then push for his vice president, Joe Biden, to be the Democrat nominee. And then, to placate the far lefty socialists, who own the Democrat party, Obama would position Sen. Elizabeth Warren as Biden’s VP. That would be a really tough ticket to beat, since Joe Biden’s favorables, regardless of gaffes and such, are extremely high.

However, James Comey just delivered a gift wrapped with a bow. Why do I say that?

Simple, here’s what FBI Director Comey said regarding Hillary Clinton and this email server episode:

-He concluded Hillary was “extremely careless” in handling our nation’s secrets.
-He admitted no reasonable person could have believed putting these emails on a private server was at all appropriate or acceptable.
-He admitted 110 emails on the server were classified at the time they were sent — showing Hillary not only lied, but knowingly endangered national security as secretary of state.
-He admitted Hillary deleted work-related emails before turning them over to the State Department, despite her claims otherwise.
-And, most shocking, Mr. Comey even admitted it’s likely foreign governments hacked her emails — and our adversaries could know critical secrets about the U.S. government because of Hillary’s actions.

Here’s a simple Southern summation. Hillary Clinton was extremely careless with our not just classified, but highly classified, information — why not just term this gross negligence? I can tell you, if I were a member of our Armed Services who’s been punished for misuse or mishandling of classified information, I would be filing an appeal. See, in the military, at a minimum, you’ll lose your security clearance; maximum, you’ll face courts-martial punishment.

Comey has said Hillary Clinton is not reasonable — is that who you want as president and commander in chief? And Mrs. Clinton’s actions were not appropriate or acceptable. That follows with Mrs. Clinton’s blatant lie about not having any classified material on her private server — her unclassified, private, personal server. Hillary Clinton stated there was no classified correspondence she emailed — wrong, a lie. Lastly, Comey confirmed Hillary Clinton inappropriately deleted the property of the American people — State Department, work-related emails. We know from the deposition of her closest aide, the daughter of Muslim Brotherhood associates Huma Abedin, that she admitted to burning emails.

And yes, Hillary Clinton lied about not having any of her emails “hacked.”

Andrew McCarthy, in his article at the National Review, stated:

There is no way of getting around this: According to Director James Comey (disclosure: a former colleague and longtime friend of mine), Hillary Clinton checked every box required for a felony violation of Section 793(f) of the federal penal code (Title 18): With lawful access to highly classified information she acted with gross negligence in removing and causing it to be removed it from its proper place of custody, and she transmitted it and caused it to be transmitted to others not authorized to have it, in patent violation of her trust. Director Comey even conceded that former Secretary Clinton was “extremely careless” and strongly suggested that her recklessness very likely led to communications (her own and those she corresponded with) being intercepted by foreign intelligence services.

Yet, Director Comey recommended against prosecution of the law violations he clearly found on the ground that there was no intent to harm the United States.

In essence, in order to give Mrs. Clinton a pass, the FBI rewrote the statute, inserting an intent element that Congress did not require. The added intent element, moreover, makes no sense: The point of having a statute that criminalizes gross negligence is to underscore that government officials have a special obligation to safeguard national defense secrets; when they fail to carry out that obligation due to gross negligence, they are guilty of serious wrongdoing. The lack of intent to harm our country is irrelevant. People never intend the bad things that happen due to gross negligence.

Marcus Tullius Cicero referred to this as “the arrogance of officialdom.” Consider that just last week, there was a secret, private meeting between former President Bill Clinton and U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch. The attorney general told us they talked about golf vacations and grandkids. Over the weekend, quietly, Hillary Clinton visited FBI headquarters and then came out to give an interview with MSNBC’s Chuck Todd — who stated he had inside information there would be no charges. Then the morning after our 240th Independence Day, Director Comey announces a press conference — as the pre-flight checks were being conducted on Air Force One, preparing to fly President Obama and Hillary Clinton on a campaign ride to North Carolina. The optics of this rivals any episode of “Game of Thrones” or “House of Cards.”

Comey announces no charges, and Air Force One takes off. Barack Obama is flying, on taxpayer dollar, not with someone under criminal investigation — but a recently-exonerated Hillary Clinton. This, Ladies and Gents, is the “policy of political corruption” on full display. And it’s offensive to me, and should be to you, that these chuckleheads think so little of the American people.

Well, not all. Certainly the Kool-Aid drinking sycophants are rejoicing — and so am I. Why, because we see who these progressive socialists truly are and how they’ll use any means in order to achieve their ends. It’s obvious that somewhere there are emails involving Barack Obama, so the Clintons got the drop on him and Valerie Jarrett. Loretta Lynch paid her homage to the Clintons, not the Obamas.

So, is this the “new normal?” Have we decided there are political elites who are indeed above the law? It appears that is the case…but I believe the final vote will be cast by the American people. James Comey gave us every reason to look upon that stage in Charlotte, North Carolina, with abject disdain toward two of the biggest liars in U.S. political history. When Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton stood together on that stage, you saw two people who abandoned Americans to die and lied about it. We saw on that stage that the new American socialist party resembles the old Soviet politburo where there are no rules for the few — but rules, laws and edicts for others.

If you looked upon Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton on that stage yesterday and cheered, the day after our 240th American Independence Day — you are no Patriot and citizen of this Republic. You are nothing more than, as Vladimir Lenin stated, a “useful idiot” — and a supporter of liars. We can ill afford the mindless lemmings to take this nation further down the road to perdition. Thanks, Director Comey, you may have just become the one person who will end the corrupt reign of the Clinton Family, and terminate any chance for an honorable legacy for Barack Obama.

http://www.allenbwest.com/allen/heres-why-im-delighted-about-the-fbis-verdict-on-hillary
 

Sacajawea

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Don't forget the warning in the tin-foil post a few days ago... to not get hung up on the emails, because the FBI is also investigating the foundation and what may have transpired there. Whether or not there's anything to that, I couldn't say. But the way Comey gave his statement does definitely paint the same picture of political cronyism on Lynch in an undeniable fashion. Again, referencing the the dark web post, there was an indication that the whole gov't would be implicated once they started going down this rabbit hole. And quickly, too.

Everyone is trying to buy time: Treasury, FedReserve, Congress (now holding hearings on Comey instead of gun control), etc ad infinitum. The "news" is dragging us all around by the nose.
 

Wise Owl

Deceased
Did any of you watch Trump's rally last night? He cut her a new one. It was a delight to watch and listen. RSBN had trouble with the feed but it's really worth a watch. And he's doing another one tonight in Cincinati........he will be even better tonight.

Last night.........>


And tonight's rally........> Starts at 7PM but I would tune in a bit early so you don't miss the opening comments by Steven Miller. He, (Miller) roasted Hellery.....

 

Jackpine Savage

Veteran Member
I woke up last night thinking along the same lines. Comey laid out the facts, and as of this morning I think that it may be the start of a shit storm that just might take Hillary down. The pressure is going to be on the DOJ with calls of equal justice. The AP just came out with a piece highlighting Hillary's lies. In some ways I'd like to see just a weakened Hillary this fall, but she is so damn dangerous I think I would prefer that she goes down now.
 

Adino

paradigm shaper
I am going to side with Millwright about the advantage of the mask coming off and the reaction to it.

I am convinced that the lack of action thus far by America's middle class in the face of overt tyranny is not apathy but patience.

Decent real Americans really wanted the system to NOT be as broken as it is. Collectively real Americans have been hoping that the long series of despotic moves was merely idiocy and incompetency and not overt evil.

That facade, that lie has been put to rest. America's middle class can no longer lie to themselves about feguv being our most mortal enemy (again this is why 0's just us dept calls constitutionalists - real Americans - the enemy. fedguv is oligarchic not constitutional. Therefore, real America is indeed and in fact oligarchic fedguv's enemy.)

The system is shredding our republic, ripping off all but the top 1% and the massive welfare state, and is so hopelessly broken and it cannot fix itself.

That revelation combined with the rapidly declining standard of living for the middle class is in the process of catalyzing into a massive movement - a movement that Trump has been tapping into for a year. Gun manufacturers and stores and ammo manufacturers have been benefiting from the movement even longer.

fedguv needs the nation's compliance to retain power. They don't have enough force to rule by it.

They have lost legitimacy, credibility, and now relevancy. They are easily recognized for the true domestic enemies in office that they are.

No recognition of authority, no rule of law, a return to law of the jungle and the rule of force - the numbers, arms, and logistics look good for real America and real bad for the uniparty's progressive marxists.

Rule of force, the law of the jungle - means a free for all with the only currency - violence - being exchanged between sides.

Real Americans did not choose this route. Real Americans wanted a legitimate election and for dc to start obeying the law themselves.

But the progressive marxist usurper domestic enemies in office have removed all chances for that to happen. The jig is up, its been forced on us by the oligarchy and their meat puppet fedguv - and everyone is forced to see it.

Now team freedom (Matt Bracken's term) has its restraints in dealing violence to team tyranny removed.

The high moral ground has been taken by real Americans and they have the right to fight from it.

And this fight is to the death - their terms not ours.

But so be it.
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
Sorry, I am not buying this BS. The blunt truth is the director of the FBI, the premier law enforcement official for the Federal Government, just gave a pass to Mrs. Clinton. The fact he listed what she did, said anybody else who did this would be charged, but he wasn't going to charge her is a clear indication of how corrupt the Federal government is. The idea he did this as some kind of protest, or to reveal this, is hogwash.

The evidence indicated conclusively that Hellary the BITCH is guilty of perjury, treason, and obstruction of justice. The FBI director said that didn't matter. The FBI director said that she is above the law, beyond the scope of being held accountable. After everything is factored in, no matter how many tea leaves you read, or analyze his behavior or statements, the objective reality is he totally failed in his mission of upholding not only the law, but the ENTIRE LEGAL SYSTEM.

The amount of damage this political hack has done, to the core foundation of our American Republic is beyond measure. He has, at one fell swoop, completely shattered the foundation of our legal and political system. The damage is vast, lethal and will be viewed by future generations, assuming there are any, as a decisive and total failure of the American system of justice.

I do not give this corrupt fool a pass. I do not let him pass go and I do not give him a get out of jail card. HE IS A TRAITOR.

Actually, I think that Millwright is correct in his instincts as to what Comey intended, but I disagree with Comey's retraction. He certainly meant to devastate Hillary with damning information about her crimes, but felt that by stopping short of the indictment recommendation it would be give him cover. He should have followed through. In his state of fear, he overthought the whole thing.
 

vestige

Deceased
OP:

Comey's presser.

Remember, he answers to zero... first and foremost. There is no doubt in my mind that he was given instructions on how to play this, or more accurately...what the official outcome would be. The decision to not indict was a political hot-potato, nobody wanted to be the one to officially make that call. Comey was the one left standing when the music stopped. He was BLATANTLY sacrificed (as evidenced by the incoming he is catching tonight) to save that hippo Lynch's career.

All are complicit... POTUS, EX POTUS, AG, EX SS, FBI (Director)

8 Top Secrets?

36 Secrets?


Compromised (for any reason... ignorance, intent whatever)

If you ever handled this sh*t you know the consequences... damned well you know them.

Pass the biscuits please.
 

Adino

paradigm shaper
bob corker is a company boy and I will be beyond heart broken if Trump picks a company boy.

Don't make deals with the devil Donald.
 

Adino

paradigm shaper
Actually, I think that Millwright is correct in his instincts as to what Comey intended, but I disagree with Comey's retraction. He certainly meant to devastate Hillary with damning information about her crimes, but felt that by stopping short of the indictment recommendation it would be give him cover. He should have followed through. In his state of fear, he overthought the whole thing.

comey cared more about his own hide than America and the rule of law.

Period.

There is no way to lip stick that pig to make it look good. Can't be done.

This is the same guy that ran the showdowns with the ranchers out west.

Company weasel and traitor is what he is.
 
I don't think Comey absolved Hillary under duress. From what I have read of his past going back decades he is fully in the "club", an elite.

I think the contradictory nature of his statement was directed mainly at the FBI itself.
I imagine that there are probably still more than a few good men left in that organization, maybe half. Comey laid out the case like he did as a sop to the guys in the trenches who worked on this for months and who were totally outraged at what Hillary had done and gotten away with. Comey was trying to fend off a rebellion in the ranks of the FBI by "splitting the baby". I am not sure that what he did will be enough.

Look for leaks by FBI personnel in the near future.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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OP:



All are complicit... POTUS, EX POTUS, AG, EX SS, FBI (Director)

8 Top Secrets?

36 Secrets?


Compromised (for any reason... ignorance, intent whatever)

If you ever handled this sh*t you know the consequences... damned well you know them.

Pass the biscuits please.


There is no doubt about this^^, Comey made sure that everybody knew it.

He could have just as easily done the whole presser from a standpoint of "hildabeest did no serious wrong" and been a hero to the left.

Comey knew this was a lose-lose situation, any way he played it, there was a ticket to Camp Fooked in his future...unless hildabeest wins the election.

He took the fall, his career in law enforcement is over if Trump wins.

Next stop...TV analyst.
 

vestige

Deceased
Actually, I think that Millwright is correct in his instincts as to what Comey intended, but I disagree with Comey's retraction. He certainly meant to devastate Hillary with damning information about her crimes, but felt that by stopping short of the indictment recommendation it would be give him cover. He should have followed through. In his state of fear, he overthought the whole thing.

The only pass I will give him is that he may have been trying to protect his family. (if he has one)

(Otherwise, he was nothing but the SOB picked to light the fuse.)

There IS a possibility that TPTB think the masses are stupid enough to accept his statement because of his position but surely TPTB are not that stupid themselves.

"His position" was just reduced to that of an ass kissing lap dog.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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The only pass I will give him is that he may have been trying to protect his family. (if he has one)

(Otherwise, he was nothing but the SOB picked to light the fuse.)

There IS a possibility that TPTB think the masses are stupid enough to accept his statement because of his position but surely TPTB are not that stupid themselves.

"His position" was just reduced to that of an ass kissing lap dog.


He is a white boy in a chocolate administration.
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
Won't need to pull out the FOIA to see what Hitlery posted......Putin is saying that he'll let loose all her emails that the Russian's "hacked"....er, ah, obtained!?!?!

I actually want to see her behind bars, but an earlier post was probably right on the money. Barry would just pardon her if she was convicted of anything, so by delaying this until after he's out of office she loses any chance of getting off scot free.
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
The only pass I will give him is that he may have been trying to protect his family. (if he has one)

(Otherwise, he was nothiing but the SOB picked to light the fuse.)

There IS a possibility that TPTB think the masses are stupid enough to accept his statement because of his position but surely TPTB are not that stupid themselves.

"His position" was just reduced to that of an ass kissing lap dog.


Oh, don't get me wrong, I don't give him a pass either, because he did indeed choke when he didn't have to. I'm just saying that his laying out of the misdeeds so starkly is advantageous, as Millwright points out.
 
Comey will be forever tainted. No one will remember anything but this about him for decades to come.

Remember Nixon's "Saturday Night Massacre"? This was the "Independence Day Massacre" of the Rule of Law.
 

Adino

paradigm shaper
What would have happened if comey came out and just told the truth.

She's guilty as hell, the oligarchy and their meat puppet fedguv have put a gun to my head to 'not indict', the system is rigged and hopelessly broken and America is in dire peril because of the malfeasance at the top?

He'd be no better or worse off than he is now. He half played ball for both sides. He straddled and tried to play politician with justice and pissed literally everyone off.

If he knows too much (and clearly he does) and gives any inkling he's not playing ball he's Vince Fostered.

Telling the truth he would have the law to stand behind. And real America.

By doing the job the way he did everyone knows the system is broken anyways and comey has no friends. The oligarchy is pissed. fedguv is pissed. Real Americans are pissed.

And the dirty laundry is still piled up to the ceiling under the carpet and no one is dealing with it.

He screwed everyone. Most likely himself as well.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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A lot of people are still immersed in pisstivity and foming at the mouth about Comey.

OK...He's a ___________ (whatever).



This thread was started to wargame the whole deal and project how it will play out.


Aside from Comey's part of it, what will the net effect be in the future?
 
A lot of people are still immersed in pisstivity and foming at the mouth about Comey.

OK...He's a ___________ (whatever).



This thread was started to wargame the whole deal and project how it will play out.


Aside from Comey's part of it, what will the net effect be in the future?

Simple. It further sets the stage for a violent explosion.
 

vestige

Deceased
A lot of people are still immersed in pisstivity and foming at the mouth about Comey.

OK...He's a ___________ (whatever).



This thread was started to wargame the whole deal and project how it will play out.


Aside from Comey's part of it, what will the net effect be in the future?

Mayhem
 

Adino

paradigm shaper
A lot of people are still immersed in pisstivity and foming at the mouth about Comey.

OK...He's a ___________ (whatever).



This thread was started to wargame the whole deal and project how it will play out.


Aside from Comey's part of it, what will the net effect be in the future?

I reread the thread and am not certain I see derailment. We're talking about the head of the fbi, players and actions that occurred as recent as yesterday. Motives. Outcomes. Opinons about those. That would, in my mind, be pertinent to any 'war gaming'.

But its your thread and I will respect your wishes.
 

Josie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
AT first I was furious. But after thinking on it for a while, I believe that Comey did the best he could. He was between a rock and a hard place with no clear way out. Given a different president and a different DOJ, he could have easily come out with the truth and maybe only faced the prospect of being Vince Fostered. But leaving things the way he has, he has supplied all the ammo Trump needs to win this thing...if Trump uses it wisely. He also left the case very clean for some other entity to pick it up and very likely get a conviction in the future.

The downside is that he has forever tainted the view most people have of the FBI which isn't going to sit well with a lot of those working within the walls of the FBI. I either read or heard this yesterday that many in the government decide to use private servers for work. It is an attempt to avoid all FOIA requests because the info isn't on a government server. My guess is that this kind of crap has been going on for many years but we are only now becoming aware of it. So, maybe Zero finally fulfilled another election promise but maybe not in the manner we all thought...his government transparency. More and more of us are seeing the light.
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
What would have happened if comey came out and just told the truth.

She's guilty as hell, the oligarchy and their meat puppet fedguv have put a gun to my head to 'not indict', the system is rigged and hopelessly broken and America is in dire peril because of the malfeasance at the top?

He'd be no better or worse off than he is now. He half played ball for both sides. He straddled and tried to play politician with justice and pissed literally everyone off.

If he knows too much (and clearly he does) and gives any inkling he's not playing ball he's Vince Fostered.

Telling the truth he would have the law to stand behind. And real America.

By doing the job the way he did everyone knows the system is broken anyways and comey has no friends. The oligarchy is pissed. fedguv is pissed. Real Americans are pissed.

And the dirty laundry is still piled up to the ceiling under the carpet and no one is dealing with it.

He screwed everyone. Most likely himself as well.

Such is the ultimate result of cowardice.
 
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