CRIME Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch have a 30 min. private meeting on her plane today

Doomer Doug

Deceased
Quid pro pro: something for something. Lynch accepted a bribe from Bill Clinton in return for obstructing both the email investigation by the FBI and obstructing the investigation into the Clinton Foundation. She can expect a position in the Hellary Clinton administration, or a cushy job at the Clinton Foundation in return.

They don't even try to hide the corruption at this point. Hellary really does think she can do whatever she wants to with no accountability at all. I sure hope Trump kicks Lynch's corrupt ass on this one.

I have concluded that Obama and Clinton know their time is short so they are trying to get the full liberal Marxist wish list done by January of 2017.
 

Mzkitty

I give up.
Bernie caves. He had a meeting with Bams last week, IIRC.


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Vice President Joe Biden, to NPR: Bernie Sanders says he'll endorse Hillary Clinton - The Hill
 

Beach

Veteran Member
Rush had a lot to say. Bill, an old man with heart problems just happens to be playing golf in 110 degree temps then just happens to hear Lynch is landing as he's ready to take off, so he holds his flight to spend 30 min min talking about grandkids. In his best Clinton voice he reminds Lynch he got her the position, has always wanted to meet her and not to forget this conversation. HaHa

Yeah, he was probably letting her know he knows where her grandkids live.

He was letting her know that she could be "Fostered" too.

That's probably where the conversation about the grandkids came in.
 

Tortie

Veteran Member
Quid pro pro: something for something. Lynch accepted a bribe from Bill Clinton in return for obstructing both the email investigation by the FBI and obstructing the investigation into the Clinton Foundation. She can expect a position in the Hellary Clinton administration, or a cushy job at the Clinton Foundation in return.

They don't even try to hide the corruption at this point. Hellary really does think she can do whatever she wants to with no accountability at all. I sure hope Trump kicks Lynch's corrupt ass on this one.

I have concluded that Obama and Clinton know their time is short so they are trying to get the full liberal Marxist wish list done by January of 2017.

The next supreme court Judge Honorable Ms. Lynch!
 

Tortie

Veteran Member
They did not meet on her plane, they did not meet on his plane, they had a third plane set up in advance and met there. Only 1 reporter was there on another story, an ABC reporter who happened to notice. They clearly thought no one would see their little meeting. Someone should ask Bill how many grandchildren Lynch has.
 

BadMedicine

Would *I* Lie???
What was she wearing? Do we have before and after pics? I man, how did it 'go'? Surprise twist, Bill Cosby was there. They faced timed Hillary? This is too weird!
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
They did not meet on her plane, they did not meet on his plane, they had a third plane set up in advance and met there. Only 1 reporter was there on another story, an ABC reporter who happened to notice. They clearly thought no one would see their little meeting. Someone should ask Bill how many grandchildren Lynch has.
This makes more sense, they thought it would be a secret meeting - it had to be in person because whatever was said was something they (or one of them) wanted to make sure there was no record of.

I don't know if it was a bribe, I don't know if it was a report to Bill, I don't know if was a threat (from either side) or what; what I am sure of is that phone or skype is a lot cheaper way to chat about your grandkids...
 

TerriHaute

Hoosier Gardener
A Suspicious Meeting in Phoenix Probably Means FBI Charges against Clinton

Op-ed on American Thinker this morning. I don't necessarily agree with his final conclusion that Lynch won't act on a criminal referral from the FBI. She may have given Bill a heads-up to get ready to face consequences or he might have been trying to weasel out of her what she is going to do. There is so much attention on this, I don't think there is any way Lynch can survive career-wise without going ahead with the prosecution.

On Tuesday Attorney General Loretta Lynch met former President Bill Clinton at a Phoenix airport where they held a discussion that lasted at least thirty minutes. Lynch’s explanation for her meeting with Clinton was that it was entirely coincidental and they mainly discussed his two infant grandchildren. This is unconvincing if not preposterous. When Loretta Lynch opens her mouth to speak on a public policy issue, she, like her boss the president, is not likely to be telling the truth. So we can pretty confidently presume that something else topped the agenda, to wit: a forthcoming referral of criminal charges against Bill’s wife in the ongoing email scandal.

Meeting Clinton coincidentally or otherwise was risky a risky and ill-advised thing for Lynch to do unless she -- and likely Obama -- thought it absolutely necessary. Lynch is a political hack but not a fool. Merely meeting privately with the former president when she is presumably impartially overseeing the criminal investigation of his wife stinks to high heaven, and compromises her sufficiently that there are already calls for her to recuse herself from the matter. Lynch is an experienced and politically savvy prosecutor, appointed by Bill Clinton to the plum position of U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of New York, a traditional stepping stone to her current job. When it comes to managing her career and the politics of it, she is sure-handed. Lynch would not have risked the meeting, coincidental or otherwise, unless she had something important to say.

Likewise, if Bill Clinton spends more than thirty seconds a day thinking about his diapered progeny as opposed to his own more personal interests, I’d be shocked. That even the glib Clinton could spend thirty minutes on the topic defies belief.

On the other hand, it is likely that investigation of Hillary’s email scandal is at or near completion. As it is, the investigation has lasted far longer than necessary for competent FBI investigators to make determinations as to Hillary’s criminal liability in the email matter, at a minimum with regard to her preservation of government records and handling of classified material. It is also probable that sufficient evidence has been compiled to make similar judgments about whether Clinton attempted to obstruct justice. Whether Clinton engaged in pay for play involvement by the Clinton Foundation during her tenure as secretary of state might be a more involved matter, but that the FBI should have come to conclusions on at least the other matters is highly probable.

Hillary’s closest aides have been interviewed, albeit under relatively friendly circumstances. Her former IT man (Brian Pagliano) who set up the private server in Clinton’s Chappaqua, New York home has received some form of immunity. The FBI has an interest in interviewing Clinton herself, but there’s been no acknowledgement that this has yet occurred. Certainly Clinton, now the presumptive Democratic nominee, has plenty of excuses to make herself unavailable, but the fact is she does have days without campaign events and is not above cancelling appearances. It’s even conceivable that she has been interviewed already. If she has not, there seems little reason why it could not be soon.

Two parallel investigations have no doubt put at least some professional and ethical pressure on the FBI. The State Department’s inspector general excoriated Clinton for her private email practices and violation of Department policies. The report did not implicate Clinton criminally, but that was not the purpose of the investigation, and considering it was produced by the department Clinton led, and that has bent over backward to delay probes and protect her, it is telling. The other investigation by the private group Judicial Watch is civil under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA.) Hillary’s aides have also been interviewed in that case, with Brian Pagliano, the IT guy, asserting his 5th Amendment right not to incriminate himself over 125 times during his deposition. Hillary’s right hand gal, Huma Abedin, confirmed in her testimony what was already clear from numerous emails that have slowly come to light under the investigations -- that if nothing else Hillary repeatedly lied and misled the public as to the reasons behind the establishment of the private server. There is now not a scintilla of doubt that the system was set up to avoid federal record keeping requirements and exposure to FOIA.

It is impossible to believe that an honest FBI investigation would not at a minimum find Hillary criminally responsible for violating statutes governing retention of official records and maintaining and securing classified material, at least based on gross negligence, but now with convincing evidence that her deliberate course of conduct demonstrates clear criminal intent. Hillary’s blatant lies and obfuscations through the course of the various investigations, along with the erasure of the server’s memory also present a clear case of obstruction of justice. It is hard to square Pagliano’s repeated invocation of the 5th Amendment with anything but that.

Maybe FBI Director James Comey is like Lynch, nothing but a political hack and will do nothing until after the election. But that carries its own risks. If Hillary wins, Comey and scores of agents within his agency will be working for a president they know is a national security risk and a criminal. It would require an extraordinary degree of corruption within the agency to maintain such a posture, which is possible but unlikely. If Trump were to win Comey would be toast.

I speculated previously that Comey wanted to deliver his report before Hillary got the nomination to mitigate the political impact, and that the rush to proclaim her the nominee was in part an effort to complicate his job. I am speculating now too, but still reasonably. Assuming Comey was on a timetable to deliver the report shortly before the convention, it would be ready or very nearly ready now. He would so inform Lynch and if not deliver the final report, give her a preliminary finding or the agency’s conclusions.

It is highly unlikely that Lynch will move to indict Hillary, but the political effects of an FBI referral would be serious. She could not very well consult with the target of the investigation and so did the next best thing, seeking out the ex-president, delivering the bad news, probably along with assurances that regardless of the FBI conclusions, she will not move forward.

Either that or she and Bill just bumped into each other thousands of miles from Washington and New York and interrupted their busy schedules chat about his grandkids.

http://www.americanthinker.com/arti...bably_means_fbi_charges_against_clinton_.html
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
It is about damned time we ENFORCED THE "NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW" PART OF OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM"!!

Anyone ELSE who did even a tiny fraction of what the Clintons have done would have been behind prison bars LONG LONG AGO!! The Clinton and Obama arrogance to act with impunity is a STANDING PUBLIC MOCKERY OF THE AMERICAN SYSTEM OF "LAW and JUSTICE"!!
 

Terriannie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I didn't watch Bill Oreilly but this was referenced on Fox and Friends this morning.

A reporter on the scene spilled the beans on how this was NOT an innocent, accidental meet up. (duh)

Oh and as an aftermath, there's supposed to be an upcoming followup from Loretta Lynch involving "changes." (Just checked and this part is not on their website just yet.)

I have a feeling, things might get interesting.

http://www.billoreilly.com/b/Lynchs-Meeting-With-Bill-Clinton/-471151946859951063.html

Lynch's Meeting With Bill Clinton

Attorney General Loretta Lynch, who will ultimately decide whether Hillary Clinton is indicted, met with Bill Clinton this week at the Phoenix airport. Local TV anchor Christopher Sign, who broke the story, joined The Factor with details. "They were on the tarmac," he reported, "in a private section. The former president waited for her and when she arrived he got on her plane, where they spoke privately for 30 minutes. The FBI instructed everyone that there would be no photos and no cell phones." Democratic strategist Mark Hannah downplayed the significance of the meeting. "A lot of people are upset with the optics, but this is a courtesy that Bill Clinton extends to members of Congress and foreign dignitaries. The American people care about the economy." The Factor countered with a suggestion, saying, "She should have talked with him for two or three minutes in full view of everyone."
 
Somebody end this nightmare. Do it. Whatever needs to be done.

Obama Administration Wants to Keep Clinton Foundation Emails Hidden Until Late 2018

http://www.breitbart.com/hillary-cl...p-clinton-foundation-emails-hidden-late-2018/
The Obama administration is already infamous for slow-walking information requests, causing investigations to drag out for years, and then complaining loudly about how long the investigations are taking! But they’ve really outdone themselves this time.

The Justice Department has filed a motion in court, on behalf of the State Department, seeking to keep a vast trove of correspondence between Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s aides, and the notorious Clinton Foundation, hidden from voters’ eyes for 27 months… in other words, until October 2018, about halfway through President Hillary Clinton’s prospective first term.

The story laid out by the Daily Caller grows more outrageous with each paragraph. For starters, we learn that four senior Clinton aides — Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Michael Fuchs, Ambassador-At-Large Melanne Verveer, Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills, and Deputy Chief of Staff Huma Abedin — were sending a lot of correspondence to the Clinton Foundation. The original tally of six thousand emails turned out to be low — very, very low. The State Department said the total has swelled to 34,116 potentially responsive documents.

“During Clinton’s four years as America’s chief foreign diplomat, her aides communicated with officials at the Clinton Foundation and Teneo Holdings where Bill Clinton was formerly both a client and paid consultant, on the average of 700 times each month, according to the Justice Department filing,” the Daily Caller reports. This from the same gang that couldn’t spare the time to work out decent security arrangements in Benghazi.

Teneo Holdings will be a familiar name to Clinton scandal-watchers: it’s the company Hillary Clinton’s aide Huma Abedin was working for, while simultaneously drawing a full State Department check from American taxpayers, in an utterly unprecedented work arrangement that has drawn Congressional scrutiny.

Teneo was founded by President Bill Clinton’s onetime personal aide, Doug Band. Abedin was working on the kind of double-dipping program that was supposed to bring irreplaceable top corporate and scientific talent into government service, without forcing them to give up successful private-sector careers, but she was merely a staffer for Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

The Daily Caller notes that Cheryl Mills was double-dipping too, working for the Clinton Foundation and its Clinton Global Initiative while also serving as a State Department employee. “Conflict of interest” doesn’t do justice to the stench hanging over these arrangements.

The documents Justice and State are delaying were supposed to be handed over by July 21, in accordance with a judicial order, but DOJ lawyers told the judge on Wednesday night that the State Department found some “errors in the manner in which the searches had been conducted in order to capture documents potentially responsive to plaintiff’s request.”
One reason it’s been less than smooth sailing for these Freedom of Information Act Requests is that the State Department’s entire FOIA review staff consists of 71 part-time retired foreign service officers. The Administration adamantly refuses to beef up the staff. (Which is hardly surprising, given that perpetual complaints about inadequate resources allow these FOIA requests to be dragged out for years.)

The plaintiff in the FOIA case at hand is Citizens United, the group that rose to prominence in a Supreme Court case Hillary Clinton is still trying to overturn. “The State Department is using taxpayer dollars to protect their candidate, Hillary Clinton. The American people have a right to see these emails before the election,” said Citizens United president David Bossie.

Citizens United just won another victory in court, as a federal judge ordered the State Department to hand over Hillary Clinton’s schedules for 14 overseas trips she took as Secretary of State. Some of the documents Citizens United has already secured led them to suspect the Secretary met with Clinton Foundation donors while on these trips.

Of course, the Associated Press recently learned that Clinton’s schedules were, shall we say, creatively updated by her aides, scrubbing the historical record of potentially embarrassing meetings. One of the events from Clinton’s overseas journeys, a dinner in Dublin with Teneo executives, seems to have gotten a vigorous scrubbing and disappeared from her official calendar.

Citizens United wants to know how many overseas dinners Sec. Clinton attended with Clinton Foundation donors that didn’t make it on her schedule,” said Bossie. He can probably expect to see those schedule records sometime around 2046. They might be stashed in a lost government warehouse, right next to the Ark of the Covenant.

It’s probably a total coincidence that Bill Clinton just caused a stir by holding a mysterious private meeting with Attorney General Loretta Lynch, creating “optics” that made even some liberals queasy.

Lynch insists all they talked about was “grandchildren, golf, and their respective travels.” We can take her word that they didn’t talk about DOJ lawyers helping to shield Clinton Foundation documents from the public for 27 months, or with the depositions Clinton aides are currently giving about Hillary Clinton’s email server in another FOIA suit, right?


Also on Thursday, the White House published a fact sheet called “New Steps Toward Ensuring Openness and Transparency in Government.” No, really, they did.
 
One also must look at the China thread to see the danger that Hillary in the WH would present. The Clintons were deeply penetrated and co-opted by the Chinese during Bill's tenure in the WH.
It was an incestuous relationship and those ties are probably still intact.

Hillary will go to war against the American People. She knows no bounds.

Obummer is Caligula. Hillary is Nero in a dress.
 

Terriannie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Ok. Watching F & F, what Lynch is doing, is semi-backtracking due to the outing of the REAL plane meeting story.

Instead of going ahead and postponing the email investigation until 2018, she is going to leave it up to the FBI.

I'm sure more will come of this later but I wonder if we're going to see some MAJOR UNRAVELINGS or more manipulations!!!
 

Mzkitty

I give up.
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Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch to announce she will accept recommendation prosecutors and FBI director make on charges related to Hillary Clinton's personal email server - The New York Times

JULY 1, 2016

Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch plans to announce on Friday that she will accept whatever recommendation career prosecutors and the F.B.I. director make about whether to bring charges related to Hillary Clinton’s personal email server, a Justice Department official said. Her decision removes the possibility that a political appointee will overrule investigators in the case.

The Justice Department had been moving toward such an arrangement for months — officials said in April that it was being considered — but a private meeting between Ms. Lynch and former President Bill Clinton this week set off a political furor and made the decision all but inevitable.

Republicans said the meeting, which took place at the Phoenix airport, had compromised the independence of the investigation as the F.B.I. was winding it down. Some called for Ms. Lynch to recuse herself, but she did not take herself off the case — one that could influence a presidential election.

Ms. Lynch plans to discuss the matter at a conference in Aspen, Colo., on Friday. The Justice Department declined to comment. The official who confirmed the discussion did so on the condition of anonymity because the internal decision-making process is normally kept confidential.

The F.B.I. is investigating whether Mrs. Clinton, her aides or anyone else broke the law by setting up a private email server for her to use as secretary of state. Internal investigators have concluded that the server was used to send classified information, and Republicans have seized on the matter to question Mrs. Clinton’s judgment.

For the Justice Department, the central question is whether the conduct met the legal standard for the crime of mishandling classified information.

Ms. Lynch said that the meeting with Mr. Clinton was unplanned, largely social and did not touch on the email investigation. She suggested that he walked uninvited from his plane to her government plane, both of which were parked on a tarmac at Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport.

“He did come over and say hello, and speak to my husband and myself, and talk about his grandchildren and his travels and things like that,” Ms. Lynch said at a news conference in Los Angeles on Wednesday, where she was promoting community policing. “That was the extent of that. And no discussions were held into any cases or things like that.”

That did not mollify Republican lawmakers, who said the meeting raised questions about the integrity of the government’s investigation.

“In light of the apparent conflicts of interest, I have called repeatedly on Attorney General Lynch to appoint a special counsel to ensure the investigation is as far from politics as possible,” Senator John Cornyn, Republican of Texas and a member of the Judiciary Committee, said in a statement on Thursday.

The meeting created an awkward situation for Ms. Lynch, a veteran prosecutor who was nominated from outside Washington’s normal political circles. In her confirmation, her allies repeatedly sought to contrast her with her predecessor, Eric H. Holder Jr., an outspoken liberal voice in the administration who clashed frequently with Republicans who accused him of politicizing the office.

Ms. Lynch has said she wants to handle the Clinton investigation like any other case. Since the attorney general often follows the recommendations of career prosecutors, Ms. Lynch is keeping the regular process largely intact.

Her reassurance that she will not overrule her investigators, however, is significant. When the F.B.I. sought to bring felony charges against David H. Petraeus, the former C.I.A. director, for mishandling classified information and lying about it, Mr. Holder stepped in and reduced the charge to a misdemeanor. That decision created a deep — and public — rift.

The F.B.I. is expected to make a recommendation to the Justice Department in the coming weeks, though agents have yet to interview Mrs. Clinton. While some legal experts said they believed that criminal indictments in the case were unlikely, the investigation continues to cast a shadow over Mrs. Clinton’s presidential campaign.

Donald J. Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, seized on the private encounter, describing it in a radio interview as a “sneak” meeting and saying it exposed the rigged nature of the process.

Even some Democrats criticized the meeting. “It doesn’t send the right signal,” Senator Chris Coons, Democrat of Delaware, said in response to a question on CNN’s “New Day.” While he said he believed that Ms. Lynch was an independent prosecutor, “I think she should have steered clear, even of a brief, casual, social meeting with the former president.”

Beyond the day-to-day workings of the Justice Department, there is precedent for explicitly relying on career officials to make politically charged decisions. When the Justice Department was considering whether to recommend sanctions against former Bush administration lawyers who approved waterboarding, Mr. Holder relied on his most senior career prosecutor to make the decision. No sanctions were recommended.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/02/us/politics/loretta-lynch-hillary-clinton-email-server.html?_r=0
 

SmithJ

Veteran Member
"Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch to announce she will accept recommendation prosecutors and FBI director make on charges related to Hillary Clinton's personal email server - The New York Times"

Which makes Hillary look even better when no charges are filed.....
 

Terriannie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Now watching Judge Jeanine's take on F & F. Shocking the crew, she says, this is a just a "dance" Lynch is doing. Her "accepting recommendations" from the FBI doesn't mean by "accepting" it means she'll follow it. (Wiggle room!!)

She also said that exposure will probably not happen because the main person knowing about the email server was Obama and Hillary already sent a "message" a few weeks ago when she quipped, "Everybody in DC knew about it." Translation: Obama knew it too and if you go after me, HE will be pulled in.

This is beyond sad if that is what transpires.
 

raven

TB Fanatic
Anyone look up the tail number to see who the plane belongs to?
You don't just land an unidentified flying object at the airport. They keep records of the aircraft, maintenance records, flight logs, fuel purchases, pilots.
 
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