GUNS/RLTD White House: Hunting With Assault Rifles ‘Not Part Of Anybody’s Family Tradition’

RCSAR

Veteran Member
America's Founding Fathers did not devote ten percent of the Bill of Rights to the protection of the right to keep and bear sporting goods.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Consider this.....

Per the CIA World Fact Book online there are 60,620,143 males between the ages of 16 and 49 who are "fit" for military service in the United States (2010 est.) out of a total of 73,270,043 in that age range (there's a whole other discussion with regards to that number gap, but we can tackle that at a later date). (ETA: Yes I left the ladies out of the count, which would effectively double the number of people in both accountings.)

Per Wikipedia, there are 192 million guns in the US, with 65 million being handguns owned by 44 million individuals. There are also 146,311,000 registered voters in the United States.

Just with those numbers, the professional political elite class and their proclivities should be terrified if they were to really dwell on the topic.

Raw numbers vs MSM/political spin tell it all IMHO.
 

WildDaisy

God has a plan, Trust it!
As a "so called" Constitutional Lawyer, having going to two ivy league schools to get his degrees, Obama sure doesn't understand the Constitution. What was he doing all that "supposed" class time?
 

momof23goats

Deceased
Back in 1775 the British brown Bess musket was an assault weapon and they did not after the war for independance make such an issue, in fact they wanted us to own and bear weapons to prevent that from happening again with the government they setup.
so right but now this pansy in the black house wants to take all of our guns, don't be fooled, England did that so did france, and look at their rime rates, they are way up, and the people are at the mercy of the thugs.
 

Be Well

may all be well
Per Wikipedia, there are 192 million guns in the US, with 65 million being handguns owned by 44 million individuals. There are also 146,311,000 registered voters in the United States.

Those numbers seem so low. Only 65 million handguns? that leaves only 127 million long guns.
 

Sacajawea

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Sure has been a lot of stories, jerking everyone's chain today.
Kinda like they want to start something...
 

RCSAR

Veteran Member
Is he a lawyer?

No matter.
Any educated person knows the 2A is about tyrants and oppressive gov. He is just pandering to the black folk.
 

Palmetto

Son, Husband, Father
As a "so called" Constitutional Lawyer, having going to two ivy league schools to get his degrees, Obama sure doesn't understand the Constitution. What was he doing all that "supposed" class time?

Reading Marx, Trosky, Nietzsche, and Alinsky.

To BHO the Constitution is simply a progressive tool to weld in such a way as to "legally" move the country to Communism without firing a shot.

It is working well.

Palmetto
 

Dozdoats

Deceased
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subud

Family tradition?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xck4t1jVnAQ
 

Publius

On TB every waking moment
Rules for weapons!

Rule 1. You don't have an assault rifle! Regardless of the type of action, what you have is a Personal defense Weapon for defence of self and country and preserving the constitution.

Rule 2. Anything in conflict with your right to bear arms/weapons is not law and is null and void of law.
 

cjoi

Veteran Member
Communists and socialists are most adept at ridiculing opposition. Ridicule is one of their favorite tactics.

They are equally practiced at "framing the argument" in a way that suits their proposed goals. They especially like to use bite-sized, short, slogans. (Think about the "what do we want?" type, leader / crowd response-type slogans. Which grew out of the church culture around the Civil Rights Movement where it was used to great unifying effect. )


These are propaganda tools which don't challenge anyone to use critical thinking skills, which is handy because most communists/socialists are not responsive to actual logic or reason. They adhere to beliefs which are what people will most often die for, before being willing to examine them, rationally.

Unfortunately, the American school system is rife with "educators" who are the inheritors of the Stuttgart School of Marxism's tactics/strategies. American students are particularly receptive to this type of programming as they have had their innate, God-given individuality and critical thinking trained out of them and replaced with thought-habits and principles that facilitate the rising New World Order.
 

undead

Veteran Member
it's infuriating that the press corps don't ask the question... "what does hunting have to do with the 2nd Amendment?"
 

dero50

Veteran Member
People aren't buying hunting rifles, they are buy something to protect themselves and family. People are afraid and know the police won't protect them and the government won't enforce the laws to protect us from the outlaws who are destroying our freedom.
 

vestige

Deceased
As a "so called" Constitutional Lawyer, having going to two ivy league schools to get his degrees, Obama sure doesn't understand the Constitution. What was he doing all that "supposed" class time?


He was wiping his *ss with the Constitution.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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There are over 300 million guns in this country, owned by over 100 million Americans. Those are the current numbers. I have no idea as to the amount of ammunition, but it has to be incredible.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Citation(s) from the GunPolicy.org literature library

Krouse, William J. 2012. ‘How Many Guns Are in the United States? - Number.’ Gun Control Legislation, pp. 8-9. Washington, DC: United States Congressional Research Service. 14 November.

Relevant contents

How Many Guns Are in the United States?

The National Institute of Justice (NIJ) reported in a national survey that in 1994, 44 million people, approximately 35% of households, owned 192 million firearms, 65 million of which were handguns(25). Seventy-four percent of those individuals were reported to own more than one firearm(26).

According to the ATF,* by the end of 1996 approximately 242 million firearms were available for sale to or were possessed by civilians in the United States(27). That total includes roughly 72 million handguns (mostly pistols, revolvers, and derringers), 76 million rifles, and 64 million shotguns(28). By 2000, the number of firearms had increased to approximately 259 million: 92 million handguns, 92 million rifles, and 75 million shotguns(29). By 2007, the number of firearms had increased to approximately 294 million: 106 million handguns, 105 million rifles, and 83 million shotguns(30)….

By … 2009, the estimated total number of firearms available to civilians in the United States had increased to approximately 310 million: 114 million handguns, 110 million rifles, and 86 million shotguns(36). Per capita, the civilian gun stock has roughly doubled since 1968, from one gun per every two persons to one gun per person…

*ATF = U.S. Department of Justice, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Sources cited:

25) Jens Ludwig and Phillip J. Cook, Guns in America: National Survey on Private Ownership and Use of Firearms, NCJ 165476, May 1999, http://www.ncjrs.org/pdffiles/165476.pdf.

26) Ibid.

27) U.S. Department of the Treasury, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, Commerce in Firearms in the United States, February 2000, pp. A3-A5.

28) Ibid., pp. A3-A5.

29) U.S. Department of the Treasury, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, Firearms Commerce in the United States 2001/2002, ATF P 9000.4, April 2002, pp. E1-E3.

30) U.S. Department of Justice, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), Annual Firearm Manufacturing and Export Reports for 2002 through 2007, along with firearms import data provided by the ATF Firearms and Explosives Import Branch.

36) U.S. Department of Justice, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, Firearms Commerce in the United States 2011, August 2011, pp. 11, 13, and 15.

Last accessed at:
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/index.html
 

JWP

Contributing Member
I'm also curious how many tens - or hundreds - of thousands of firearms were brought back from wars abroad. I'm fairly sure a large portion of those weren't counted...
 

Ravekid

Veteran Member
Sandy Hook alone likely increased the number of people who owed magazine feed, semi-auto firing rifles by two or three million. Before Sandy Hook, not all that many folks owned AKs and ARs. Afterwards, anyone who even thought about ever owning one likely went out and purchased one. Those who already owned them, likely purchased more.

When will these idiots realize that talking about gun control only makes people go out and buy and possibly put more guns out in circulation? That just means there are now more guns available to be stolen, used in a domestic issue, etc..
 

Weps

Veteran Member
I'm also curious how many tens - or hundreds - of thousands of firearms were brought back from wars abroad. I'm fairly sure a large portion of those weren't counted...

I've heard of 60mm mortars, 40mm grenade launchers, grenades, linked ammo, explosives, AT launches, ect... having made their way back over the years as some have returned home from abroad. Supposedly there is an unlicensed, functioning MG-42 out there somewhere that made its way back.
 

JWP

Contributing Member
I've heard of 60mm mortars, 40mm grenade launchers, grenades, linked ammo, explosives, AT launches, ect... having made their way back over the years as some have returned home from abroad. Supposedly there is an unlicensed, functioning MG-42 out there somewhere that made its way back.

Yeah, I've heard similar things. An MG-42 though... Interesting. I imagine it would be tough to find ammo. =)
 
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