BLOG Just finished reading the Harbinger. Have you read it yet? If not then why not.

hope4mil

Veteran Member
Kathy and anyone else that has not heard Jonathan Cahn's sermon at the 2013 presidential inaugruual prayer breakfast, please go and listen to it. He says upfront that it is not politically correct, and let things fall where they may. It is an amazing Christian sermon, from a very brave man.

I uploaded this to a photo/video sharing website, photobucket.com. If you cannot find it anywhere else, it will be hear, unless of course "they" shut down my account. :spns:
Hope

 

WisconsinGardener

Loony Member
From the Harbinger Facebook page today:

This is Hope of the World ministries – It’s our aim that this critical

word – A Message To America – that Jonathan Cahn delivered at The

Presidential Inaugural Prayer Breakfast go forth and be spread as far

as possible – We know that this is your aim as well. Unfortunately,

for now, we had to take down our posting from our own site since we

were informed that there were legal contractual stipulations between

the organizer of the event and the media company filming the event. We

don’t one anyone posting it to be legally liable or for there to be

any legal repercussions for anyone, which could also result in the

message being legally impounded and never coming out. Thus if it’s

been posted, we’ve been told that it needs to be taken down. We also

don’t want the presidential seal linked to it which was mistakenly

joined. We are confident that the media company working on this is

committed to getting the message out as widely as possible - through

television, DVD, the web, all over –They also have the full version of

the message and what happened before and the explosion in the Spirit

that happened at the end – In addition they did their own filming with

a fully professional team and so will have the fullest and best

version of the speech which then can be used in any format, from

individual use to church services, etc – They will be working as fast

as possible to make that happen that it can go forth and be available

in the widest possible way - but for that to happen we have to do all

things in order - So in order to get the word out, we all have to take

it down at least for now. As soon as we hear any news we will seek to

let everyone know. Pray it can be released and go forth as soon as

possible! Thank you for your help. And God bless you! Hope of the

World.

As of right this second, the one Jonathon Cahn put up himself entitled just "JC" and posted above, is still there.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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Kathy and anyone else that has not heard Jonathan Cahn's sermon at the 2013 presidential inaugruual prayer breakfast, please go and listen to it. He says upfront that it is not politically correct, and let things fall where they may. It is an amazing Christian sermon, from a very brave man.

I uploaded this to a photo/video sharing website, photobucket.com. If you cannot find it anywhere else, it will be hear, unless of course "they" shut down my account. :spns:
Hope


What makes you think I haven't heard it? I think Rabbi Cahn has a great message in calling for a return to Christ ... not just for the USA however, but for the world. I just don't like to see people lie and call the Rabbi a prophet when he himself says he is not one.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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What cultish acts????

You are being extremely OBTUSE!

The story he wrote is fiction as a method to explain fact. You don't like that? Tell me what you do with the parables Yahshuah spoke. He spoke fiction to present a fact. Stop being so obnoxiouly obtuse!

People that insist on calling the Rabbi a prophet - especially against his own words on the subject - are being cultish and they are lying. Lies are like mud flung against a shiny surface. Enough lies/mud, and the shiny surface becomes completely obscured.
 

LightEcho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
People that insist on calling the Rabbi a prophet - especially against his own words on the subject - are being cultish and they are lying. Lies are like mud flung against a shiny surface. Enough lies/mud, and the shiny surface becomes completely obscured.

Your microscopic investigation of chicken turds in denial of the clutch of eggs is a bit much. I prefer to collect the eggs and ignore the turds myself.
 

WisconsinGardener

Loony Member
From the Harbinger official Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/TheOfficialHarbinger
Shalom! MAJOR NEWS!!!!! We have received word that there is no limitation on our posting our recording of Jonathan's Address at the Presidential Inaugural Prayer Breakfast - MESSAGE TO AMERICA! Therefore as of today - for the first time, the FULL RECORDING of Jonathan's speech (including what happened at the end of the speech and after) will be posted on You Tube - HOPE OF THE WORLD CHANNEL - There will be an enhanced version made by others for television broadcast and other media - It's released! Spread it to everyone you know who needs to hear it - believer and unbeliever alike. And pray for God to have His way as the message spreads across the land.
HERE'S THE LINK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9xMxkNROto
 

WisconsinGardener

Loony Member
You have to see the last few minutes of this new video. None of the others included his full prayer at the end. Watch the people when they show the audience. The place goes crazy. People were praying along with him, some waving U.S. flags, some waving Israel's flag - shofars blowing - people yelling out to God in repentance and praise. I just started crying watching it.
 

Gercarson

Veteran Member
Your microscopic investigation of chicken turds in denial of the clutch of eggs is a bit much. I prefer to collect the eggs and ignore the turds myself.
That often happens when those who toy with the idea that they, themselves, border on being a prophet(ess) themselves.
 

fairbanksb

Freedom Isn't Free
I finished reading it yesterday. It wasn't the easiest read for all ther repeating it could have been told in half the number of pages. IMHO there is no denying the message. We are in the midst of the judgements already and the birth pang will only increase in frequency and severity.
 

LightEcho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I finished reading it yesterday. It wasn't the easiest read for all ther repeating it could have been told in half the number of pages. IMHO there is no denying the message. We are in the midst of the judgements already and the birth pang will only increase in frequency and severity.

Yeup... that was my take too. The endorsement by Amerikans of this evil empire and the devil Obama.... and all the corrupt ways of our society- these cement the judgments. The next calling will be for all of His children to come out of that unclean thing. The trumpet is about to sound.

As one of my old favorites teaches-

Let goods and kindred go, this mortal life also....
 

hope4mil

Veteran Member
If you all have not watched this new complete version of Jonathan Cahn's sermon, please go and watch it. If you do not want to watch the whole thing again, you can just watch the prayer at the beginning and then watch the last 5 minutes. It is an amazing outpouring of the Spirit of God, in my opinion. Best sermon that I have ever heard. Praise God that this has been released again.
Hope
 

Tennessee gal

Veteran Member
You have to see the last few minutes of this new video. None of the others included his full prayer at the end. Watch the people when they show the audience. The place goes crazy. People were praying along with him, some waving U.S. flags, some waving Israel's flag - shofars blowing - people yelling out to God in repentance and praise. I just started crying watching it.

Wisconsin Gardener, I had the same reaction when I heard it.
 

Terriannie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
If you all have not watched this new complete version of Jonathan Cahn's sermon, please go and watch it. If you do not want to watch the whole thing again, you can just watch the prayer at the beginning and then watch the last 5 minutes. It is an amazing outpouring of the Spirit of God, in my opinion. Best sermon that I have ever heard. Praise God that this has been released again.
Hope

Thank you for posting this with the extra 5 minutes! All I can say is "Wow!" and I WILL be sharing this!!!
 

joannita

Veteran Member
I would love to know how long the corporate prayer lasted after he left the platform.. We serve an awesome God who tires so hard to warn mankind before He punishes...
 

Wil

Inactive
Charisma mag article:

Jonathan Cahn's Unapologetic Prophetic Message to America Goes Viral
12:30PM EST 2/6/2013 ALTHEA THOMPSON


Messianic rabbi Jonathan Cahn's keynote address at the January Presidential Inaugural Breakfast went viral on YouTube shortly after its posting.

The video has garnered over 100,000 views, gaining worldwide attention for its bold outcry for America to return to God.

Though its controversial message initially received some suppression on the Internet, its popularity continued to grow. Many have called it “the most important and powerful clip on YouTube ever.”

In the video, Cahn, author of the New York Times best-seller The Harbinger, addressed a host of senators and members of Congress at the historic Marriot Wardman Park, one of Washington, D.C.'s most famous landmarks. He unapologetically stated that his message would not be politically correct, nor political, but biblical.

“We must sound the alarm that must be sounded,” Cahn stated in his keynote address at the interdenominational, bipartisan event. “We must address what must be addressed, and so the message now will not be politically correct. Nor will it be political. It will be biblical. It will be true. And wherever it falls, let it fall.

“I will not hold back,” he continued. “And if I offend you, I apologize that I cannot apologize for offending you. Without truth there is no love. On a day that so embodies the future course of this nation, it's critical that we both pray and speak the truth.”

Cahn passionately detailed the prophetic parallels between ancient Israel and the modern-day decline of morality in America.

“As the people of ancient Israel, in the midst of their blessings, committed a fatal error, so have we,” he continued. “We too, as a nation, have turned from God. We too, as a nation, have removed Him from our lives. Step by step we too have ruled Him out of our culture, out of our government, out of our economy. We too have ruled Him out of the instruction and lives of our children. We too have made God a stranger. And as we have driven God from our national life, we have brought in other gods and idols to replace Him—gods of sensuality, violence, wealth, carnality, sexual promiscuity. And as did Israel, so too we have abandoned the ways of God and the laws of God for the ways of immorality.”

The Harbinger has garnered national attention for its documentation of parallels between what has happened in the United States since the 2001 terrorist attacks—including the economic collapse—and Israel’s history after it turned away from God. Told in fictional narrative, the book unfolds how nine signs concealed in recent events reveal God’s progressive judgment.

The Harbinger, published on Jan. 3, 2012 by Frontline/Charisma House, has sold more than 1 million units and charted for 56 weeks on the New York Times Best Sellers list and 55 weeks on USA Today’s Top 150 Books.


http://www.charismanews.com/us/3813...getic-prophetic-message-to-america-goes-viral
 

bosifus

There can be only one.
Im not sure how I missed this thread or for that matter how it's taken us so long to see the parallels spoken of in this man's book and interviews. I haven't read his book but I have watched his sermon on inauguration day as well as several of the interviews posted online.

After watching this I thought back to all of the hubris over the last few years of pulling God out of anything having to do with government and it led me to the night I watched the democratic convention openly boo the vote put before them to restore God to the platform of the democrat party. I was flabbergasted but I really shouldn't be I guess, neither should the parallels of Isaiah 9-10 to the attacks of 9/11 on the USA be any surprise.

Maybe the reason God chose to call us back to him in this way is because there are people in this land still filled with the holy spirit who will listen and call others to take heed.

Thanks to everyone for contributing to this it has made me take a good long look at what is truly important.
 

hope4mil

Veteran Member
Just released on Jonathan Cahn's facebook page, Transcript of the key note address Presidential Inagural Prayer Breakfast. Bolded text by me.
Hope

https://www.facebook.com/#!/notes/j...ress-jonathan-gave-at-the-pre/558000007557020

THE MESSAGE
TO AMERICA
JONATHAN CAHN

jdc©2013

THE PRESIDENTIAL INAUGURAL
PRAYER BREAKFAST
KEYNOTE ADDRESS:

January 21, 2013

Members of the Presidential Inaugural Prayer Breakfast Committee, Senators, Members of Congress, Governors and government representatives, Ambassadors and delegates from other nations, ministers and people of God, friends, and media

We are gathered here in Washington DC, America’s capital city, on January 21, 2013, the morning of the Presidential Inauguration, with one agenda and one purpose, to come before the Lord and in His presence to seek His face and pray for His blessing, His will, and His purposes to be accomplished for this nation, for its government, for its leaders, for its president, and for its people. And it is fitting that we do this on this day which more than any other represents the future of our nations. We are here to inaugurate God’s own purposes.

We’ve come here from every part of this land and from every background and persuasion to stand before the Almighty, Who transcends politics, movements, and men, and before whom kings and kingdoms rise and fall. Presidents change, political parties come, from ages past, and go, and nation’s ascend and descend, but we come before Him who changes not but who remains the same yesterday, today, and forever. We come before Him, before whom men and women, kings and prophets, peoples and nations have come to seek His face in troubled times. We come to pray for America.

But how do we do that? How do we pray for America? Do we pray for riches, for power, for the success of our national agendas? The Scripture tells us that God hears the prayers of His people. But that we must pray according to His will. If a man has a terminal disease, we don’t pray for an increase in wealth, we pray for healing. And if a city lies in danger of destruction, we don’t speak flowery words, we sound the alarm. We pray for blessing. But true blessing only comes in the will of God. So we must pray according to that will. And we must not be afraid to speak the truth. We must give voice what must be spoken. We must sound the alarm that must be sounded. We must address what must be addressed. And so this message will not be politically correct, nor will it be political. It will be biblical. It will be true. And wherever it falls, so be it. I will not hold back. And if I offend you, I apologize but I cannot apologize for offending you. Without truth, there is no love. On a day that so embodies the future course of our nation, it is critical that we must both pray and speak what is true.

In ancient times, there was a nation known as the kingdom of Israel. It had been founded on God’s word, dedicated to His will, and consecrated to His purposes. And God blessed it with prosperity, power, security, peace, and a place at the head of nations. But the people of Israel made a fatal mistake, in the midst of their blessings, they turned away from God. They began to remove Him from their lives. Step by step they ruled Him out of their culture, out of their government, out of their economy, out of their public square, out of the instruction and lives of their children, they ruled Him out of the kingdom. They would still at times invoke His name but it was increasingly hollow and meaningless. They had made themselves strangers to the God of their fathers and their foundation.

And as God was driven from their lives, they brought in foreign gods and idols to replace Him, gods of sensuality, materialism, violence, idols of wealth, carnality, and sexual promiscuity. They abandoned the ways of God, the laws of God, the standards of God for immorality. As the prophets cried out, they now called evil,’good,’ and good, ‘evil.’ What they once knew to be immoral, they now celebrated, and what they once knew to be right, they now warred against. It was a culture turned in upon itself, a civilization at war against the very foundation on which it had been established. And the righteous, who simply remained true to what they had once all known to be true, were now vilified, marginalized, mocked, labeled ‘intolerant,’ increasingly banned from the public square, and, ultimately, persecuted. The nation’s culture grew increasingly vulgar, godless, and darkened. They now defiled, ridiculed, and blasphemed the name of God. It was as if a spiritual amnesia had overtaken the kingdom, as if they had never known God or His ways. And they descended into the darkest sins of the nations which surrounded them. They offered up their children as sacrifices to the gods, on the altars and fires of Baal and Molech. And they now stood under the shadow of judgment and in danger of destruction.

And God called out to them, to return, to come back, to be saved from destruction. He sent to them seers and prophets to wake them up, to call them back. But they wouldn’t listen. They mocked the prophets and persecuted them. And they hardened their hearts. And finally something happened that brought them into the first stage of judgment.

But there was another civilization that was likewise founded on God’s word, dedicated to His will, and consecrated to His purposes, from its very inception – America. Those who came to these shores four centuries ago to found a new civilization did so by dedicating it to God, committing it for His purposes and glory. America was to be a city on a hill, a civilization to which others would look. It was to be a holy commonwealth. And so they modeled it after Israel of the Bible. They brought forth its first governments in the name of Jesus and for the glory of God. They established its first school system for the purpose of teaching the Word of God. And they foretold that inasmuch as America would follow in the ways of God, that God would bless it, that it would become the most powerful, the most prosperous, the most blessed nation on earth, the head of nations. And it would all come true.

America would become the most blessed nation on earth, a refuge for the world’s exiles, a light for the world’s oppressed, a beacon against the dark forces of tyranny which threatened to engulf the world. America was blessed with prosperity, power, security, peace, and a place at the head of nations. America was blessed as no nation in history had ever been blessed.

But something happened to the city on the hill. As the people of ancient Israel, in the midst of their blessings, committed a fatal error, so have we. We too have, as a nation, turned from God. We, too, have removed Him from our lives. Step by step, we, too, have ruled Him out of our culture, out of our government, out of our economy, out of our public square, out of the instruction and lives of our children, we, too have made God a stranger. And though we still at times invoke His name, it rings increasingly hollow and meaningless. We have made ourselves strangers to the God of our fathers.

And as we have driven God from our national life, we have brought in other gods and idols to replace him, gods of sensuality, materialism, violence, idols of wealth, carnality, and sexual promiscuity. And as did Israel, so, we too have abandoned ways of God, the laws of God, and the standards of God, for immorality. The nation that was established to bring the Word and light of God to the world, now fills the earth with pornography. We too now call evil ‘good,’ and good, ‘evil.’ And what we once knew to be immoral, we now celebrate, and what we once knew to be right, we now war against. American culture has become turned in upon itself, a civilization at war against the very foundation on which it has been established. And those, who simply remain true to what had always been known as true, are now vilified, marginalized, mocked, labeled ‘intolerant,’ and increasingly banned from the public square, and, ultimately, persecuted.

We have now reached the point, this day, that a minister was driven out of the public square, barred from praying at the inaugural service for the simple reason that years ago he preached a sermon simply saying what the Bible has always clearly said regarding sin. It is a new America in which one can be banned from the public square simply for believing the Bible, where profanity it treated as holy and the Holy as profane, a new America where the Bible is treated as contraband and nativity scenes are seen as dangerous.

Our culture has grown increasingly vulgar, godless, and darkened. We too now defile, ridicule, and blaspheme the name of God. It wasn’t that long ago that American television closed its broadcasting days with sermons. Now our televisions and computers screens are filled with word and images once unimaginable and God and Jesus have now become objects of comedy and mockery. It’s as if a spiritual amnesia has overtaken the land. The Lord asked Israel, “Can a nation forget its God?” And yet Israel forgot. And now we too have forgotten. America too has forgotten her God.

And we too, as a nation, have partaken in the darkest of sins. Tomorrow is also a milestone of history. Tomorrow marks the fortieth anniversary of the day that America legalized the killing of its unborn children. Israel offered up thousands of its children. America has offered up millions. Fifty million souls are not here today. Fifty million people will not be here, watching or cheering at the inauguration. They’re silent, for their lives were legislated out of existence, even from this city. And in order to hide the magnitude of our moral descent, we redefine words and change their meanings on this and other sins. And yet a thousand apostate ministers swearing on a thousand Bibles will not change a jot or tittle of God’s word. Though silent, they cry out in bearing witness to the darkest of our sins. And God hears them. And as He spoke through the ancient prophets to Israel, so His words now echo down to us, “When you lift up your hands to be in prayer I will not listen. For your hands are covered with blood.”

The city on the hill has grown dark. Its lamp has grown dim. Its glory is fading. For God is not mocked. No nation can war against the very source of its blessings and expect those blessings to remain. And as it was with ancient Israel, the city on the hill now stands under the shadow of judgment.
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How does judgment come to a nation? After defying all of God’s calls and warnings, the nation of Israel would experienced something unprecedented. It was the opening stage of judgment. God removed one of Israel’s blessings. Years before the nation’s destruction, He allowed its hedge of protection to be lifted. He allowed an enemy to make a strike into the land. It was a wake-up call to avert national destruction. Nothing else would reach them. The strike was limited and temporary. The nation was now given a period of time to turn back to God or enter into judgment.

This first opening biblical sign of national warning and judgment is this initial removal of the nation’s hedge of protection. So it came to pass in America on September 11, 2001. It was on that day that we witnessed the nation’s hedge of protection removed. An enemy was allowed to make a strike on the land. As with Israel, the strike was limited and temporary. It was a wake-up call. And for a short-time it looked as if America would wake up. It looked as if we were on the verge of a national revival. People flocked to churches and spoke of God. And then, a few weeks later, it was all over. There was no revival. There was no change of course. America continued down it course of spiritual departure from God but did so now with even more fervor. Eleven years after 9/11, the nation stands not closer to God, but much farther away.

As I saw the smoke rising out of New York City that day, and then as I stood at the corner of Ground Zero, a revelation began coming to me. The revelation would take the form of a book called The Harbinger. The Harbinger was release last year and from the first week of its release it’s become a national best seller, spreading across the nation and even into the Halls of Congress.

The revelation of The Harbinger is this: There exists an ancient mystery that lies behind everything from 9/11 to the collapse of the American economy - A mystery so precise that it actually reveals the actions of American leaders before they take them, the exact words of American leaders, before they speak them., a mystery so exact that it gives the dates, even the hours of some of the most dramatic days in recent history. In the last days of ancient Israel, before its destruction, nine harbingers, nine prophetic signs of national judgment, appeared in the land. Those same nine harbingers are now reappearing on American soil. Some have appeared in New York City. Some have appeared in Washington, DC. Some have involved the highest leaders of the land, even the president of the United States and they touch every realm, the political, the economic, the cultural, the spiritual, and affect every American and every American’s future.

The harbingers are revealed through an ancient Scripture, the vow that Israel made after that first strike of warning. It appears as Isaiah 9:10. Instead of repentance, they responded to the warning with defiance. They said this: “The bricks have fallen. BUT we will rebuild with hewn stone. The sycamores have been cut down, BUT we will plant cedars in their place.” What they were saying was this: “God, you won’t humble us, you won’t cause us to return. We will continue on our course. We will continue to abandon your ways. We will defy you and even more than before. By our own efforts, we will rebuild and come back stronger than before.

This vow of defiance would seal their fate and usher in their destruction. And it’s the key to nine harbinger of judgment. We don’t have the time to even begin to open up the mysteries of the harbingers except to say that they are all manifesting now to America, and to touch on just a few.

The Fifth Harbinger, the Stone of Judgment. For this to manifest, a particular kind of stone must be chiseled out of mountain rock and placed on the ground of destruction, where the strike occurred. Three years after 9/11, the Stone of Judgment appeared and was lowered onto the pavement of Ground Zero where a ceremony took place, with American leaders pronouncing vows of defiance over the stone.

The Sixth Harbinger, the Sign of the Sycamore, a biblical warning of national judgment. For this to manifest, a sycamore must be struck down at the ground of destruction. In the last moments of 9/11, as the last tower came crashing to the ground, it sent forth a shock wave and a beam that strikes an object. The object was a tree. The tree was a sycamore. The Biblical sign of national judgment - the sycamore was fallen.

The Seventh Harbinger called in Hebrew – the Erez. This sign of judgment appeared in the sky at the corner of Ground Zero two years after the calamity.

The ninth harbinger, the vow of judgment itself, the vow of bricks and sycamores, as recorded in Isaiah 9:10. It very utterance in the last days of ancient Israel, would lead the nation to destruction. For this harbinger to manifest, an American leader would have to proclaim the vow of judgment from the capitol city, and it would have to be linked to the attack, to 9/11. If you see this happen, know that it is a stunningly clear sign that your nation is under judgment.

On the day after 9/11, the United States Congress gathered on Capitol Hill, the same place where the inauguration will happen, to give America’s response to the calamity – just as ancient Israel had presented its response to its calamity in Isaiah 9:10. The man appointed to speak for the nation was the Senate Majority, Tom Daschle. He makes his way to the podium and presents the nation’s response. At the end of his speech, the words of the ancient vow that brings national judgment come forth from his mouth. He says this: “there is a passage in the Bible, from Isaiah, that I think speaks to all of us at times like this. “The bricks have fallen down, but we will rebuild with dressed stone…” He then speaks of the tree that is struck down. He speaks it without even realizing there is an actual tree that was struck down and just discovered that day. He speaks of the stone of judgment that is to be placed Ground Zero, which will come to pass three years after he declares it. He has no idea what he’s doing, but the vow of judgment is pronounced. Israel’s fatal vow becomes America’s and is recorded in the Annals of Congress.
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And it is ominous. It will set the nation’s course. It will lead to the next national shaking, a shaking that won’t involve buildings, but the implosion of American power itself, the collapse of the American economy, a collapse that still affects everything we do. In The Harbinger it is called the Second Shaking. And behind this second shaking, this economic implosion, likes a stream of still more ancient mysteries. We don’t have the time to speak of these except to mention this one mind boggling reality.

There was a day given in the Bible, called on the Hebrew calendar, the 29th day of Elul. Once, every seven years, on that date, Elul 29, the nation’s financial accounts would be wiped away, all accounts of credit and debt, wiped away. It was originally meant to be a blessing, but as Israel turned away from God, it became part of a judgment, a sign for a nation that had driven God out of its life, and pursued idols of wealth, a sign that strikes that nations financial realm.

The peak of the collapse of the American economy took place at the end of September 2008. On that day the Stock Market crashed 777 points. It was the greatest crash in Wall Street and American history. When did it happen? The greatest collapse in American history took place on the 29th day of Elul, the exact day given in the Bible to strike a nation’s financial realm and wiped out its financial accounts, the sign given to a nation under judgment.

But Elul 29 is part of a seven year mystery. What happens if we go back seven years from that greatest crash in American history? It takes us to September 2001, the month of 9/11. But something else happened that month – the other greatest Stock Market crash in American history up to that date. And when did that take place? The other greatest Stock Market crash in American history took place on the exact same Biblical day, the day appointed to wipe away a nation’s financial accounts – the 29th day of Elul. The two greatest crashes in American history up to those days – both took place on the exact same biblical day, on the one day appointed to strike a nation’s financial realm, a sign to a nation that has driven God out of its life. And as according to the ancient mystery they each took place exactly seven biblical years apart to the exact day, and the exact hours. And there’s a prophetic mystery here, a prophetic warning, that if America does not return to God, that American prosperity and the American age itself will come to an end.
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Since The Harbinger was released, that which was foreshadowed within its pages, is actually coming true. The harbingers and mysteries haven’t’ stopped, they’ve continued to manifest. In fact one of them took place this year and involved the president who is about to be inaugurated into office. And one of the mysteries in The Harbinger, something called The Mystery Ground, actually involves this day, the inauguration, or rather the first inauguration of which this day is a continuation.

It was the day that America as we know it came into existence, April 30, 1789. It was the day the nation’s first president was sworn into office, the inauguration of George Washington. Washington placed his hand on the Bible and then gave the first ever presidential address. And in that speech, on America’s first day as a fully-formed nation, is embedded a prophetic warning. He said this:

the propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation

on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right which

Heaven itself has ordained

What was he saying? He was saying this: America’s blessing are based its relationship with God. If America ever disregards or forgets or turns away from the eternal rules of order and right, the laws, the precepts, the standards, and the ways of God, if America ever departs from these, then the blessings of God will be withdrawn from the land. This is the prophetic warning embedded in our national foundation. And it is coming true in our day. We are now witnessing America disregarding the eternal rules of order and right which God has ordained. And the warning is, that if we do so, then the smiles of Heaven, the blessings of God will be withdrawn.

When judgment came to Israel, the destruction returned to the same ground where the nation had been dedicated to God, the Temple Mount. The calamity returns to the nation’s ground of consecration.

After Washington gave that prophetic warning, he and the nation’s first Senate and House of Representatives, all proceeded on foot from Federal Hall, the place of the inauguration, to a site especially chosen for the nation’s first government to pray and dedicate America’s future to God. And that’s what they did on that first inauguration on America’s first day as a formed nation – they prayed and committed the nation’s future to God. That was the nation’s consecration ground.

If we can find out where that ground is, we will have a mystery. Where did it take place? It happened in the nation’s capital. But the capital then was not Washington, D.C. It was New York City. Where? The place where they dedicated America to God on its first day as a nation, America’s consecration ground.. is .. Ground Zero. America was dedicated to God at Ground Zero. The ancient mystery, the calamity returns to the nations ground of consecration.

And it was on that ground that the harbingers appeared. It was in that soil of America’s consecration that the sycamore grew and was struck down. And on 9/11 a shock wave went forth from Ground Zero and struck an object, Federal Hall, the very place where Washington was sworn in, and where he gave that prophetic warning of what would happen if America ever turned away from God. It struck the foundation of America and put a crack in the foundation of that foundation.

And all around Ground Zero, every building was ruined or destroyed… except one. Which one? It was the little stone chapel inside of which they dedicated America’s future to God. And why was it protected? It was protected because there was an object outside the chapel which absorbed the full force of the calamity. The object was the harbinger. The sycamore. You see, the purpose of the harbingers are not to consign a nation to judgment, but to awaken it to redemption. For in 9/11 America was brought back to its ground of consecration. It’s a message of return, for the voice of God is calling this nation to return, in prayer, in humility, in repentance, in hope.
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And here we stand today on the 21th day of January 2013, in the capital city, on the same day, the continuation of that first Inauguration day. And on that first inauguration, they gathered together in prayer and consecrated America’s future to God. And here now we, who are of that future, for whom they prayed and consecrated the nation, now come together, on that same day, likewise in a gathering of prayer before the Almighty.

We stand here, centuries later, in witness to God’s hand of faithfulness and blessing on this land. But we stand here also in witness to the fact that America has done exactly that of which, on that first day, we were warned never to do. We bear witness that we have turned from His eternal ways of order and right. We have turned and are rapidly turning away from His face.

And that is why it is so crucial that we have gathered here, in this place, and on this day. For very shortly, the president will place his hand on an object… the Bible. And I say to you, Mr. President, we have come here to pray for America, for its government, for you, its leader, and for its future. We pray for your blessing and for your prosperity in the will of God. For only in God’s will can we ever know true blessing. The answer is not found in the agendas of man, but in that on upon which your hand will rest, upon the Word of God. For everything else will pass away, but the Word of God will abide forever. And so it must be asked, with respect… Can you lay your left hand upon His word and then with your right hand enact laws against it? Can you invoke the name of God to assume the presidency and then use the presidency in any way to endorse that which clearly wars against the ways of the God you invoke? Can you stand in the city name after our first president, and perform the act that he first performed on that first day, and ignore the warning he gave on that day to the nation. Can you do all that and disregard the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven itself has ordained. Can you utter the words ‘so help me God’ if you should in any way take part in helping to lead a nation away from the God whose help you invoke.

We pray for your blessing in the will of God. For if a nation that once knew the Almighty is called to return to Him, then so too must the one who leads it.

You will hold in your hand the Bible of Abraham Lincoln. But do you not know what Lincoln said and did. In the midst of the darkness that engulfed his land, a darkness he saw as the righteous judgment of God, Lincoln issued a call to the nation to return. Abraham Lincoln said this:

It is the duty of nations as well as of men, to own their dependence upon
The overruling power of God, to confess their sins and transgressions, in
humble sorrow, yet with assured hope that genuine repentance will lead
to mercy and pardon; And to recognize the sublime truth, announced in
the Holy Scriptures and proven by all history, that those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord.

And, insomuch as we know that, by His Divine Law, nations like individuals are subjected to punishments and chastisements in this world, may we not justly fear that the awful calamity of civil war, which now desolates the land, may be but punishment, inflicted upon us, for our presumptuous sins, to the needful end of our national reformation as a whole people?..
We have forgotten God. We have forgotten the gracious hand which preserved us in peace, and multiplied and enriched and strengthened us….

It behooves us then, to humble ourselves before the offended power, to confess our national sins, and to pray for clemency and forgiveness…”

So Lincoln sent forth this call for America to repent, to return to God, and to seek His mercy. Soon after the call went forth, the tide of war would begin to turn and would ultimately lead to national healing.

The words of Abraham Lincoln ring out to us today – those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord.
Has this nation now grown so far from God that we can’t imagine a president doing so today? Mr. President, if you look to Lincoln as your model then dare to follow him in his actions.

For all the politics, and all the parties, all the inaugural balls, and all the voices of political correctness, and all the sounds of applause will grow still and silent, and we will all, we will each, stand before the Almighty. And it will not matter then how many votes we won or praises we garnered– only this – were we faithful to Him and to His word.

The voice of Lincoln now cries out to us and pleads, ‘Let us humble ourselves, confess our national sins, and pray for forgiveness.’

As it is written and promised in the word of God:

If My people who are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray and seek My face, and turn from their evil ways, then I will hear from heaven I will forgive their sin, and I will heal their land.

We have come here on the 21st day of January 2013, to the capital city on the day of the Presidential Inauguration, for that purpose, to humble ourselves and pray, and to seek His face, and to turn from our evil ways.

The time is late. The hour is critical. A great nation proceeds in rapid spiritual descent. And the signs of warning and judgment are manifesting in the land. The shadow of judgment is upon us. And for those who would be ask “How, in light of judgment, can one be saved, or safe?” We give this answer - The word in Hebrew for safety and salvation is Yeshua. Yeshua is the name which we know in English as ‘Jesus.’ Outside of Him there is no safety. But inside of Him there is no fear. It was for Him and in His name that this nation, this civilization, this city on a hill, named America, came into existence. And it is only to Him and in His name that its problems can ultimately be answered. He remains the answer, the light in the darkness, and the hope when all other hopes are faded and gone. And to all who come, He will receive. And He calls out ‘Come.

For all you who dwell in darkness, it’s time to come. And you will not be turned away.

And for all you who know Him, for you His people, it is time to put away any shade of darkness and compromise – and take up the mantle of your calling.

It’s time to be the salt of the earth and the light of the world you were called to be, in truth, in power, and love. It is time to light up the darkness.

It’s time to be strong. It’s time to be bold. It’s time to be radical.

The watchmen are crying out, and the trumpets are sounding.

And the voice of the Lord is calling to this nation, and saying “Return,”

And calling to His people and saying, “Return,”

Let the word go forth. Let the power of God be seen in this land. And let revival burst forth like a mighty river.

The voice of one crying in the wilderness:

Prepare the way of the Lord

Prepare the way of the Lord

Make straight in the wilderness a highway for our God

Every valley shall be exalted

And every mountain and hill shall be cast down

The crooked way shall be made straight

And the rough way shall become a plain

And the glory of the Lord shall be revealed

And all flesh will see it together

For the mouth of the Lord has spoken

Kumee Oree Ke Vah Oreich

Arise and shine for your light is come

And the glory of the Lord has risen upon you

And nations will come to your light

And kings to the brightness of your rising

In the name above all names that are named

Yeshua Ha Mashiach, Jesus the Messiah

The King of Kings

And the Lords of Lords

The Light of the World

The Hope of America

The Lion of the Tribe of Judah

And the glory of His people Israel

AMEN & AMEN
 
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Wil

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E-mail from Cahn::

Hi Everyone



This is a personal request for prayer. This coming Wednesday Night, there will be a special gathering held in the United States Capitol Building. It will be held for Members of Congress. One of the speakers will be Newt Gingrich. Another will be Michele Bachmann. And at the end, another one of the speakers they've asked – is me. So I will need your prayers! Please pray that God will give me the words. And that He will anoint it's going forth that it accomplishes His purposes.


The event will start at 6:30pm – and will go to around 8:30 pm – I'll speak around 8:15. The event was actually triggered by The Harbinger.



Thanks for your prayers!



God bless you



Jonathan
 

Wise Owl

Deceased
Big bump cause this is so important.

Prayers going up that the people there actually LISTEN to what he says.
 

Keysey

Contributing Member
E-mail from Cahn::

Hi Everyone



This is a personal request for prayer. This coming Wednesday Night, there will be a special gathering held in the United States Capitol Building. It will be held for Members of Congress. One of the speakers will be Newt Gingrich. Another will be Michele Bachmann. And at the end, another one of the speakers they've asked – is me. So I will need your prayers! Please pray that God will give me the words. And that He will anoint it's going forth that it accomplishes His purposes.


The event will start at 6:30pm – and will go to around 8:30 pm – I'll speak around 8:15. The event was actually triggered by The Harbinger.



Thanks for your prayers!



God bless you



Jonathan



I will be praying that God gives you the words and that he will anoint it's going forth that it accomplishes His purposes.
 

Wil

Inactive
A Note From Jonathan! Shalom, Thank you all for your prayers!

Prayer is essential all the more in what God is doing. I'll share what happened on Capitol Hill, during the services this weekend.

It was tremendous! Thanks again.

God bless you
Jonathan
 

Donner9x

Thread Killer :-)
Arbologist? Lol! Trees don't up and die for no reason. There is always a reason. All I have to do look at the pictures of the tree and the site and I can see why the tree is dying. There's nothing that can be done to save it, but that doesn't mean the cause is unknown.

Wow!!!

All I can say is, those people need to hear from YOU!!

Some way, whether it be by phone, in writing, or perhaps even a personal visit, all those involved in planting, caring for, and trying to save that tree need YOUR help!!

You are obviously smarter and more knowledgeable than any that have so far worked on, or around this tree and assisted in it's planting and subsequent care.

I bet they didn't know YOU existed!!!

So please, for goodness sake, make every effort to let them know that YOU ARE HERE and available to solve their problem, because YOU are the only one who can.

Please let us know when you solve their mystery for them...

/sarcasm :whistle::rolleyes::whistle::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

LightEcho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Another milestone of pride in the Amerikan way as it descends further into lawlessness. Tower of babel in the days of Noah... today.

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May 10, 2013 1:02 PM ET

Spire permanently installed on WTC tower
By ULA ILNYTZKY and TED SHAFFREYBy ULA ILNYTZKY and TED SHAFFREY, Associated Press

NEW YORK (AP) — A tall, heavy spire was fully installed atop One World Trade Center on Friday, bringing the New York City structure to its symbolic height of 1,776 feet.

Loud applause and cries of joy erupted from construction workers assembled on a temporary work platform on the roof of the building as the huge, silver spire was gently lowered and secured into place.

"It's a pretty awesome feeling," Juan Estevez said from a temporary platform on the roof of the tower where he and other workers watched the milestone.

"It's a culmination of a tremendous amount of team work ... rebuilding the New York City skyline once again," said Estevez, a project manager for Tishman Construction.

He said the workers around him were "utterly overjoyed."
Installation of the final two sections of the 408-foot, 758-ton spire was completed after pieces of it had been transported to the roof of the building last week. It will serve as a world-class broadcast antenna.

The building is at the northwest corner of the site where the twin World Trade Center towers were destroyed in the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. The 72-story 4 World Trade Center is under construction at the southeast corner of the site.


Lee Ielpi, whose firefighter son died after responding to the attacks, watched workers secure the spire from his office at the nearby 9/11 Tribute Center, which he co-founded.

"The building looks spectacular. ... I'm looking forward to the day when the cranes come down and they light the spire at night," he said. "It's supposed to be a very moving experience."

The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which owns the site, said the LED-powered light would be activated in the next few months.

"It's going to have a light that you can see from tens of miles away," said Port Authority Vice Chairman Scott Rechler. "And that light will change colors and in the next few months we are going to be activating that light, and it will be a beacon of hope just like the Statue of Liberty."

Friday's final installation, raising the building's height to 1,776 feet, makes One World Trade Center the tallest skyscraper in the U.S. and third-tallest in the world, although building experts dispute whether the spire is actually an antenna — a crucial distinction in measuring the building's height.

If it didn't have the spire, One World Trade Center would be shorter than the Willis Tower in Chicago, which stands at 1,451 feet and currently has the title of tallest building in the U.S., not including its own antennas.

The Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat, a Chicago-based organization considered an authority on such records, says an antenna is something simply added to the top of a tower that can be removed. By contrast, a spire is something that is part of the building's architectural design.

The tower is slated to open for business in 2014.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie both praised the construction workers for their tireless work.

Tenants include the magazine publisher Conde Nast, the government's General Services Administration and Vantone Holdings China Center, which will provide business space for international companies.

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The silver spire topping One World Trade Center is lifted as it is fully installed on the building's roof, bringing the structure to its full, symbolic height of 1,776 feet on Friday, May 10, 2013 in New York. The 408-foot spire, weighing 758 tons, will serve as a world-class broadcast antenna. (AP Photo/Mark Lennihan)
http://hosted2.ap.org/wrko/88be40d5...ter Spire/id-22a97044868d4ceb802877f8b9c634cb
 

DennisRGH

Reset
One World Freedom Tower Exposed: Crowning The Tyrant

This video moves kind of slow for the first few minutes, because he is trying to lay the groundwork, as he says, for what is to follow. To really appreciate, it is best to watch it all. You will be rewarded for your patience. If you don't know scripture, you will find it hard to follow. For those who do know them....this may be one of the most remarkable videos on prophecy you will see, ever. It's over, as he says. Islam has defeated AmeriKa. Watch and be amazed. Fence sitters, there is not much time left. It is either Jesus Christ or the "islamic" new world order under barack hussein obama. Choose.

Video Description:
Apollyon from Revelation 9:11 has officially been 'crowned' now that the One World Freedom Tower has received it's Islamic Minaret at it's peak. Now 2 of the 3 tallest structures in the world are Islamic Mosques...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-9pdJzVaJnc#at=12
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
The video summed up:

Ephesians 6:12

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.


Indeed.
 

LightEcho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
They had this all planned. The owner /holder of the buildings was in on it... from the start.


It wasn't a terrorist strike... there is insurance to think about.
 

Kook

A 'maker', not a 'taker'!
The novel is a fictionalized analysis of scripture (isaiah) which many consider to be flawed and over reaching. Many readers believe it to be factual; others don't care because they like the message.

Kinda reminded me of The Celestine Prophecy--the author had an interesting idea that didn't have enough substance for a full length book, so he padded it with extraneous details and repetition to boost the word count. Slap on a lot of hype and ta-da!

YMMV

That is pretty much my feelings as well. As a dedicated dispensationalist, and one who absolutely does not believe in 'replacement doctrine', I do not see the need for such a book. The scriptures alone will suffice to inform me that America is toast, but that I will not be toasted.
 

LightEcho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
That is pretty much my feelings as well. As a dedicated dispensationalist, and one who absolutely does not believe in 'replacement doctrine', I do not see the need for such a book. The scriptures alone will suffice to inform me that America is toast, but that I will not be toasted.

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Dispensationalism is a theological system that teaches biblical history is best understood in light of a number of successive administrations of God's dealings with mankind, which it calls "dispensations." It maintains fundamental distinctions between God's plans for national Israel and for the New Testament Church, and emphasizes prophecy of the end-times and a pre-tribulation rapture of the church prior to Christ's Second Coming. Its beginnings are usually associated with the Plymouth Brethren movement in the UK and the teachings of John Nelson Darby.

http://www.theopedia.com/Dispensationalism
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Thanks for advising us of your bias. When you hold a bias before examining evidence, you are bound to see what you want to see.

The lessons clearly show that Israel as a nation has been mostly against YHWH. This is why they were overrun by Babylonians, Assyrians, Russians and Germans. The millions hauled off to slavery and death camps are testimony that God did not respect the individuals of Israel. Clearly, there is one path in FAITH as shown in Abraham and his "seed". All of faith are his seed.

In the Harbinger, we see the beginning and end of the blessings bestowed by YHWH upon the nation of America. Now Amerika is being judged like ancient Israel. You go ahead and follow the false doctrines of some men. When the world is crashing down around you, tell me why you missed your rapture.
 

DennisRGH

Reset
this is serious, serious business.

one of the biggest ironies I have ever seen.

islam attacks AmeriKa in 9/11, AmeriKa goes on the attack against islam abroad, but ends up being hijacked at home by the very ones they were fighting abroad, to such an extent that the governement is now islamic agenda driven. Not ignoring the banksters, oil currency etc.. Just saying islam is infiltrating insidiously into AmeriKan culture. Hundreds of Mosques built or being built nationwide. Immigration bringing in thousands of muslimes. Many of whom get jobs working for the muslime gov ie. TSA (security?).

And what are the majoity of AmeriKans concerned with?

It's over folks.

AmeriKa is gone. Conquered by islam at home, arguably, without firing a shot.

And if anyone thinks that the God of the Bible is not behind this, then you are truly delusional. Because HE is in control of it ALL. And HE obviously approves.
 
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DennisRGH

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You go ahead and follow the false doctrines of some men. When the world is crashing down around you, tell me why you missed your rapture.

the vast majority of us are going to be dead and buried long before the rapture. just sayin.

some of may even "lose their heads" before it, since the "religion of peace" is/will become the law of the land.
 

nomifyle

TB Fanatic
the vast majority of us are going to be dead and buried long before the rapture. just sayin.

some of may even "lose their heads" before it, since the "religion of peace" is/will become the law of the land.

Wow, Buckster, I really really do agree with this statement. The Bible does not promise us we will be spared from the coming horrible events, by being raptured before it. I shake my head when people say they'll be raptured out of it, and my calvinist pastor agrees with me, although many of my brother and sister in Christ think they'll be out of here before.

Judy
 

nomifyle

TB Fanatic
this is serious, serious business.

one of the biggest ironies I have ever seen.

islam attacks AmeriKa in 9/11, AmeriKa goes on the attack against islam abroad, but ends up being hijacked at home by the very ones they were fighting abroad, to such an extent that the governement is now islamic agenda driven. Not ignoring the banksters, oil currency etc.. Just saying islam is infiltrating insidiously into AmeriKan culture. Hundreds of Mosques built or being built nationwide. Immigration bringing in thousands of muslimes. Many of whom get jobs working for the muslime gov ie. TSA (security?).

And what are the majoity of AmeriKans concerned with?

It's over folks.

AmeriKa is gone. Conquered by islam at home, arguably, without firing a shot.

And if anyone thinks that the God of the Bible is not behind this, then you are truly delusional. Because HE is in control of it ALL. And HE obviously approves.

I so remember when Nikita Khrushchev said "America will fall from within" sometime back in the early '60's.

Judy
 

Wil

Inactive
Cahn was on Jim Bakker's show this week, shared something else interesting that the original Dutch owner of the ground zero land had as his family crest a chopped down withered tree... also not shared on the show but shared at Cahn's church this past sunday he said that that same owner also owned a property on what is now Wayne, NJ, town where Cahn's church is. And most interestingly, the church is right on that property, with the name of the street that turns unto the church being Ryerson Ave., the name of that owner...

This coming week should also be interesting, as the prophet that spoke to Cahn at the airport prior to the writing of The Harbinger will be on the show, probably on monday.
 
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