WTF?!? Terrell Suggs: ‘Vladimir Putin would give me my Super Bowl ring back’

MC2006

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http://tracking.si.com/2013/06/17/ravens-terrell-suggs-putin-ring/?xid=nl_siextra

Last week, New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft claimed Russian President Vladimir Putin stole his Super Bowl XXXIX ring while speaking to a crowd at the Waldorf Astoria in New York.

A spokesman for Putin called Kraft’s story “weird” and claimed the ring was a gift from Kraft during his 2005 meeting with Putin. Now, a newly minted Super Bowl champion is weighing in on the case of the Putin-Kraft ring controversy.

Baltimore Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs was exiting a nightclub in Los Angeles this weekend and was questioned by paparazzi about Kraft’s stolen ring story. Suggs said he would “get it right back” and when the paparazzi reporter retorted that Putin was a “scary guy,” Suggs said he, too, knew a lot of “scary” guys.

When asked if he was wearing his Super Bowl ring, Suggs said his ring is safe with his father.

TMZ video here: http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_7aq62bd5


Kraft’s story:

“I took out the ring and showed it to [Putin], and he put it on and he goes, ‘I can kill someone with this ring,’ ” Kraft told the crowd at Carnegie Hall’s Medal of Excellence gala at the Waldorf-Astoria, according to the Post.“I put my hand out and he put it in his pocket, and three KGB guys got around him and walked out.”
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
Common sense would say that no political leader of a large and powerful country would do something so stupid and arrogant and sure to provoke an incident.

But the last train for common sense left this world years ago.
I believe that the political leaders of most countries are so arrogant with their own power that they would not hesitate to do such a petty act as this. They are blinded by their own arrogance and power. They think of all those not in the power elite as little more than chattel.
 

Mzkitty

I give up.
I put nothing past anyone. Kraft never should have taken the ring out in the first place. What are they worth, like 20 grand?
 

Dex

Constitutional Patriot
Actually that does sound like something a high level KGB type Russian would do. Why would Kraft lie?
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
"Yeah...I took it.

Come and take it back, Girlie Man!
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...I wish WE had a Putin on our side...
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
Yeah what's that about the divine right of kings??

Isn't that what almost all political leaders think of themselves now?
Divine right of kings.... chosen by God to rule and subject to no laws or restrictions :lol:

Wonder if he gets first dibs on new brides before their honeymoon, back in the motherland?
 

Dozdoats

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Well, let's see... here's this, from 2005:
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http://www.nysun.com/foreign/putin-pockets-patriots-ring/16172/

Putin Pockets Patriots Ring
By JACOB GERSHMAN, Staff Reporter of the Sun | June 28, 2005

The owner of the New England Patriots, Robert Kraft, is missing his 2005 Super Bowl ring, and the bauble appears to have been pocketed by President Putin of Russia.

That is the story that was being pieced together yesterday evening following a report in the Russian press and buzz from an e-mail. In that message, a consultant related details from a businessman who was present at a meeting last weekend between a group of American executives and the steely ex-KGB agent to talk about investment in Russia. According to the account contained in the e-mail and elaborated on to The New York Sun by several sources, Mr. Kraft made the mistake of pulling the diamond-encrusted, 14-karat, white-gold Super Bowl ring off his hand to give his host a closer look.

It was the last time, according to these sources, that the owner of the New England Patriots football team saw the ring, a gaudy piece of jewelry that could easily be sold on eBay at the cost of a small yacht and that its proud owner may not have wished to part with permanently at any price.

No one is accusing either Mr. Putin or Mr. Kraft of doing anything improper, but rather of being involved in a diamond-studded misunderstanding. While Mr. Kraft thought he was playing show-and-tell, Mr. Putin apparently assumed, in error, that Mr. Kraft, at the completion of their session with the other executives, was offering a parting gift to the leader of the world's largest country.

"He thought Putin would get a kick out of seeing it," the source said.

The source, who was not at the meeting but was told what happened by someone who was, and who asked to remain anonymous, said Mr. Kraft displayed some hesitancy before removing the ring but presented it to the Russian when encouraged by the chairman of Citigroup, Sanford Weill. Mr. Weill could not be reached for comment. The mix-up was described in a brief part of a lengthy e-mail sent by the head of a consulting group, which specializes in political risk analysis, to a blind list of recipients.

After glimpsing the bauble's flashiness, Mr. Putin is said to have placed the ring promptly in his pocket and exited the room. And Mr. Kraft, whose team has triumphed at the Super Bowl three of the past four years, was suddenly down to two rings.

Left in the highly awkward position of having to decide whether to explain the mix-up to the Kremlin, a nonplussed Mr. Kraft decided to take one for the team and kept silent - lest he stir up an international incident.

According to one source who spoke to the Sun, Mr. Kraft said he is trying to find a polite way to restore the ring to its rightful owner - himself.

Mr. Kraft, who was traveling in Europe, could not be reached for comment yesterday. His daughter-in-law, Carolyn Kraft, reached by phone, declined to provide details about the imbroglio and did not confirm whether Mr. Kraft intended to leave Moscow bare-handed.

"It's pretty amazing, huh," she said, before explaining that she didn't want to comment on the particulars.

A spokesman for the Russian Federation's embassy in Washington, Yevgeniy Khorishko, said: "I haven't heard about the situation."

One Russian publication, however, had its own take on the incident. Kommersant, which describes itself as "New Russia's First Independent Newspaper," said Mr. Kraft "shyly stuffed something into" the hand of Mr. Putin.

"Putin nodded and quickly looked around. But no, he didn't see anybody watching. Then the curiosity took hold over the president of Russia and he started to look at the present. There was a massive silver ring in his hands. Putin even carefully tried it on, but when he noticed that photo and video cameras were pointing at him, quickly took it off and held it in the fist."

"It's a Super Bowl ring," the publication quoted Mr. Kraft as saying.

"It's a very good ring."

Mr. Kraft's ring, like those distributed to his players, is set with 124 diamonds, arranged to form the team's logo and spell out the words "WORLD CHAMPIONS." At 4.06 ounces, it is the heaviest ring in Super Bowl history.

On June 12, the day Mr. Kraft presented the jewelry to players at his Brookline, Mass., home, the team announced in a press release: "These rings pack plenty of bling."

The National Football League pays for up to 150 rings for the winning team, at a price of $5,000 each. When a ring that previously belonged to a former San Francisco 49ers linebacker, Lee Woodall, was auctioned off on eBay last year, collectors bid more than $49,000 to take it home. The chairman of a Boston-based paper and packaging company, Mr. Kraft, 63, acquired the Patriots in 1994 for $170 million, which at the time was the most anyone had paid for a sports franchise. He is a former chairman of the board of trustees of Columbia University.
 

Dozdoats

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And CNN reported this today: (VIDEO at the link)
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/16/world/europe/russia-putin-ring

Russian president: I did not steal Super Bowl ring
By Alla Eshchenko and Faith Karimi, CNN
updated 7:59 AM EDT, Mon June 17, 2013

Putin: I did not steal Super Bowl ring
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
NEW: The story is just a humorous anecdote, a Kraft spokesman says
Russian President Vladimir Putin says he got the ring as a gift
It belonged to New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft
Putin was handed the ring during Kraft's visit to St. Petersburg in 2005

Moscow (CNN) -- Russia's president is fighting back: No, he did not steal a Super Bowl ring. And no, he's not rocking the diamond-encrusted prize on his finger, either.
President Vladimir Putin's spokesman denied that the leader kept a Super Bowl ring that New England Patriots' owner Robert Kraft wanted back.

Both sides agree that the ring, with its 124 diamonds, changed hands during Kraft's visit to St. Petersburg, Russia, in 2005.

The New York Post reported on remarks made by Kraft, 72, at a New York awards gala Thursday.

"I took out the ring and showed it to (Putin). And he put it on and he goes, 'I can kill someone with this ring,'" Kraft said, according to the New York Post. "I put my hand out and he put it in his pocket, and three KGB guys got around him and walked out."

NFL team owner accuses Putin of theft

Robert Kraft, owner of the New England Patriots, says his ring was taken in 2005.
Photos: Putin in power

In the quotes used by the Post, Kraft did not specifically say that Putin stole the ring; the paper characterized his remarks that way in the headline and story. Kraft did say, however, that he had wanted the ring back. "I had an emotional tie to the ring. It has my name on it."

The Patriots' owner said he then received a call from the White House at the time telling him it would be in the best interest of U.S.-Russian relations to claim it was a gift to Putin, the Post reported. Kraft said Thursday he played along.

A few days after the 2005 incident, amid confusion as to whether the ring was a present or was kept by mistake, Kraft issued a statement saying it was a gift.

That's the way Putin sees it, the president's spokesman said Sunday.

"What Mr. Kraft is saying now is weird," Dmitry Peskov said. "I was standing 20 centimeters away from him and Mr. Putin and saw and heard how Mr. Kraft gave this ring as a gift."

The 4.94-carat ring is in the Kremlin's library, where all official state gifts are kept, he said. It is worth more than $25,000, according to multiple reports from 2005.

A Kraft spokesman said Sunday the story is a humorous anecdote that Kraft "retells for laughs."

"He loves that the ring is at the Kremlin and, as he stated back in 2005, he continues to have great respect for Russia and the leadership of President Putin," said Stacey James, a spokesman for The Kraft Group.

"An added benefit from the attention this story gathered eight years ago was the creation of some Patriots fan clubs in Russia," he said.

There is some solace for Kraft, as he also received rings for the Patriots' Super Bowl victories in the 2001 and 2003 seasons.

Super Bowl rings can fetch much more when they are auctioned, depending on who wore them. The 1991 Super Bowl ring of Hall of Famer Lawrence Taylor sold last year at auction for more than $230,000. There were rumors Charlie Sheen bought the ring, but the actor denied it.

At least one ring has been used to raise money for charity. In 2008, former Patriots defensive player Je'Rod Cherry raffled off one of his three rings to raise $150,000 for several children's charities.
 

Dozdoats

Deceased
And NBC Sports reported this, also in 2005:
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http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/8402895/

MYSTERY SOLVED: SUPER BOWL RING WAS GIFT
Patriots owner says he gave diamond-encrusted bauble to Putin
Russian President Vladimir Putin, right, shakes hands with Patriots owner Robert Kraft on Saturday.
updated 3:50 a.m. ET June 30, 2005

BOSTON - Russian President Vladimir Putin walked off with New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft’s diamond-encrusted 2005 Super Bowl ring during a recent meeting with U.S. business executives.

But not to worry: Kraft says the ring was a gift to Putin, presented out of “respect and admiration.”

Earlier, The Boston Globe had speculated that Kraft hadn’t meant to give away the ring.

“I showed the president my most recent Super Bowl ring,” Kraft said in a statement released Wednesday. The Russian president “was clearly taken with its uniqueness,” Kraft said.

“At that point, I decided to give him the ring as a symbol of the respect and admiration that I have for the Russian people and the leadership of President Putin,” Kraft said.

Putin met with the businessmen Saturday at Konstantinovsky Palace near St. Petersburg, Russia. Near the end of the meeting, Kraft took off the ring, and handed it to Putin. Putin tried it on, put it in his pocket and left, according to Russian news reports.

According to Patriots spokesman Stacey James, the ring — which is encrusted with 124 diamonds — has a value of “substantially more” than the previously reported $15,000.

ALSO ON THIS STORY
WP: Russian to judgement about the ring
A senior Kremlin official, Dmitry Peskov, told The Associated Press that Putin had given the ring to the Kremlin library where other foreign gifts are kept.

Kraft’s business interests include paper and packaging companies and venture capital investments. He handed out Super Bowl rings to players and coaches at his home two weeks ago.
The Patriots have won three of the last four Super Bowls.
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
"Yeah...I took it.

Come and take it back, Girlie Man!
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...I wish WE had a Putin on our side...

Oh Yeah????
We'll send our tough guy to get it back!!!
Aw forget about it. Keep the ring.:kk1:

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PeeWee Obama "I know you are, but what am I"
 

JamestheFin

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ill put my money on Suggs...

ROTFLMAO!!!

Suggs is just another big dumb gibsmedat. Putin is ruthless.

July 1998

In a second inexplicable move, Yeltsin names Putin head of the KGB (now called the FSB).

November 1998

Less than four months after Putin takes over at the KGB, opposition Duma Deputy Galina Starovoitova (pictured, right), the most prominent pro-democracy Kremlin critic in the nation, is murdered at her apartment building in St. Petersburg. Four months after that, Putin will play a key role in silencing the Russian Attorney General, Yury Skuratov, who was investigating high-level corruption in the Kremlin, by airing an illicit sex video involving Skuratov on national TV. Four months after the dust settles in the Skuratov affair, Putin will be named Prime Minister.

August 1999

Completing a hat trick of bizarre spontaneous promotions, proud KGB spy Putin is named by Yeltsin Prime Minister of Russia. Almost immediately, Putin orders a massive bombing campaign against the tiny, defenseless breakaway republic of Chechnya, apparently seeing the reassertion of Russian power there as key to overall resurgence of Russia’s military and state security apparatus, his primary political objective. On August 26th, he’s forced to acknowledge the horrific consequences of the bombing. Hundreds of civilians are killed and tens of thousands are left homeless as civilian targets are attacked. World opinion begins to turn starkly against Russia, especially in Europe, very similarly to the manner in which it has polarized against U.S. President George Bush over Iraq. Putin’s poll numbers in Russia begin to slide.

September 1999
An apartment building in the Pechatniki neighborhood of Moscow is blown up by a bomb. 94 are killed. Less than a week later a second bomb destroys a building in Moscow’s Kashirskoye neighborhood, killing 118. Days after that, a massive contingent of Russian soldiers is surrounding Chechnya as public opposition to the war evaporates. On October 1st, Putin declares Chechen president Aslan Maskhadov and his parliament illegitimate. Russian forces invade.

New Year’s Eve, 1999

Boris Yeltsin resigns the presidency of Russia, handing the office to Putin in order to allow him to run as an incumbent three months later. Given the pattern of bizarre promotions Putin has previously received, the move is hardly even surprising. So-called “experts” on Russia scoff at the possibility that Putin could be elected, proclaiming that, having tasted freedom, Russia can “never go back” to the dark days of the USSR.

March 2000

Despite being the nominee of a man, Yeltsin, who enjoyed single-digit public approval ratings in polls, Vladimir Putin is elected “president” of Russia in a massive landslide (he wins nearly twice as many votes as his nearest competitor). Shortly thereafter, all hell breaks loose in Chechnya. Russia will ultimately be convicted of human rights violations before the European Court for Human Rights and condemned for its abuses of the civilian population by every human rights organization under the sun.

[Between April 2000 and March 2002, Russia plunges into a nightmarish conflict in Chechnya eerily similar to what America now faces in Iraq. Opposition journalists, especially those who dare to report on what it going on in Chechnya, suddenly start dying. In 2000 alone, reporters Igor Domnikov, Sergey Novikov, Iskandar Khatloni, Sergey Ivanov and Adam Tepsurgayev are murdered -- not by hostile fire in Chechnya but in blatant assassinations at home in Russia. On June 16, 2001, at a press conference in Brdo Pri Kranju, Slovenia, President Bush is asked about Putin: "Is this a man that Americans can trust?" Bush replies: "I will answer the question. I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. We had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul; a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country. And I appreciated so very much the frank dialogue."]

April 2003

Sergei Yushenkov, co-chairman of the Liberal Russia political party (pictured, left), is gunned down at the entrance of his Moscow apartment block. Yushenkov had been serving as the vice chair of the group known as the “Kovalev Commission” which was formed to informally investigate charges that Putin’s KGB had planted the Pechatniki and Kashirskoye apartment bombs to whip up support for the Putin’s war in Chechnya after the formal legislative investigation turned out to be impossible. Another member of the Commission, Yuri Shchekochikhin (see below) will perish of poisoning, a third will be severely beaten by thugs, and two other members will lose their seats in the Duma. The Commission’s lawyer, Mikhail Trepashkin (see below) will be jailed after a secret trial on espionage charges. Today, virtually none of the members of the Commission are left whole and it is silent.

May 2003

Putin’s popularity in opinion polls slips below 50% after sliding precipitously while the conflict in Chechnya became increasingly bloody. Suddenly, he begins to appear vulnerable, and oil billionaire Mikhail Khodorkovsky begins to be discussed as one who could unseat him. All hell breaks loose in Russian politics.

July 2003

Yuri Shchekochikhin (pictured, right), a vocal opposition journalist and member of the Russian Duma and the Kovalev Commission, suddenly contracts a mysterious illness. Witnesses reported: “He complained about fatigue, and red blotches began to appear on his skin. His internal organs began collapsing one by one. Then he lost almost all his hair.” One of Shchekochikhin’s last newspaper articles before his death was entitled “Are we Russia or KGB of Soviet Union?” In it, he described such issues as the refusal of the FSB to explain to the Russian Parliament what poison gas was applied during the Moscow theater hostage crisis, and work of secret services from the former Soviet republic of Turkmenistan, which operated with impunity in Moscow against Russian citizens of Turkoman origin. According to Wikipedia: “He also tried to investigate the Three Whales Corruption Scandal and criminal activities of FSB officers related to money laundering through the Bank of New York and illegal actions of Yevgeny Adamov, a former Russian Minister of Nuclear Energy. This case was under the personal control of Putin. In June of 2003, Shchekochikhin contacted the FBI and got an American visa to discuss the case with US authorities. However, he never made it to the USA because of his sudden death on July 3rd. The Russian authorities refused to allow an autopsy, but according to Wikipedia his relatives “managed to send a specimen of his skin to London, where a tentative diagnosis was made of poisoning with thallium” (a poison commonly used by the KGB, at first suspected in the Litvinenko killing).

June 2004

Nikolai Girenko (pictured, left), a prominent human rights defender, Professor of Ethnology and expert on racism and discrimination in the Russian Federation is shot dead in his home in St Petersburg. Girenko’s work has been crucial in ensuring that racially motivated assaults are classified as hate crimes, rather than mere hooliganism, and therefore warrant harsher sentences — as well as appearing as black marks on Russia’s public record.

July 2004

Paul Klebnikov (pictured, right), editor of the Russian edition Forbes magazine, is shot and killed in Moscow. Forbes has reported that at the time of his death, Paul was believed to have been investigating a complex web of money laundering involving a Chechen reconstruction fund, reaching into the centers of power in the Kremlin and involving elements of organized crime and the FSB (the former KGB).

September 2004

Viktor Yushchenko, anti-Russian candidate for the presidency of the Ukraine, is poisoned by Dioxin. Yushchenko’s chief of staff Oleg Ribachuk suggests that the poison used was a mycotoxin called T-2, also known as “Yellow Rain,” a Soviet-era substance which was reputedly used in Afghanistan as a chemical weapon. Miraculously, he survives the attack.

[Throughout the next year, a full frontal assault on the media is launched by the Kremlin. Reporters Without Borders states: "Working conditions for journalists continued to worsen alarmingly in 2005, with violence the most serious threat to press freedom. The independent press is shrinking because of crippling fines and politically-inspired distribution of government advertising. The authorities’ refusal to accredit foreign journalists showed the government’s intent to gain total control of news, especially about the war in Chechnya."]

September 2006

Andrei Kozlov (pictured, left), First Deputy Chairman of Russia’s Central Bank, who strove to stamp out money laundering (basically acting on analyses like that of reporter Klebnikov), the highest-ranking reformer in Russia, is shot and killed in Moscow. Many media reports classify Kozlov’s killing as “an impudent challenge to all Russian authorities” and warn that “failure to apprehend the killers would send a signal to others that intimidation of government officials is once again an option.” Less considered is the possibility that Kozlov, like Klebnikov, was on the trail of corruption that would have led into the Kremlin itself, which then lashed out at him preemptively assuming he could not be bought.

October 2006

Anna Politkovskaya (pictured, right), author of countless books and articles exposing Russian human rights violations in Chechnya and attacking Vladimir Putin as a dictator, is shot and killed at her home in Moscow. In her book Putin’s Russia, Politkovskaya had written: “I have wondered a great deal why I have so got it in for Putin. What is it that makes me dislike him so much as to feel moved to write a book about him? I am not one of his political opponents or rivals, just a woman living in Russia. Quite simply, I am a 45-year-old Muscovite who observed the Soviet Union at its most disgraceful in the 1970s and ’80s. I really don’t want to find myself back there again.” Analysts begin to talk openly of Kremlin complicity in the ongoing string of attacks. Washington Post columnist Anne Applebaum writes: “Local businessmen had no motivation to kill her — but officials of the army, the police and even the Kremlin did. Whereas local thieves might have tried to cover their tracks, Politkovskaya’s assassin, like so many Russian assassins, did not seem to fear the law. There are jitters already: A few hours after news of Politkovskaya’s death became public, a worried friend sent me a link to an eerie Russian Web site that displays photographs of ‘enemies of the people’ — all Russian journalists and human rights activists, some quite well known. Above the pictures is each person’s birth date and a blank space where, it is implied, the dates of their deaths will soon be marked. That sort of thing will make many, and probably most, Russians think twice before criticizing the Kremlin about anything.”

November 2006

Alexander Litvinenko (pictured, left), KGB defector and author of the book Blowing up Russia, which accuses the Kremlin of masterminding the and Pechatniki and Kashirskoye bombings in order to blame Chechen terrorists and whip up support for an invasion of Chechnya (which shortly followed), is fatally poisoned by radioactive Polonium obtained from Russian sources. Litivinenko had given sensational testimony to the Kovalev Commission and warned Sergei Yushenkov that was a KGB target). In his last days Litvinenko himself, as well as other KGB defectors, including Oleg Kalugin, Yuri Shvets and Mikhail Trepashkin (who allegedly actually warned Litvinenko that he had been targeted before the hit took place) directly blamed the Kremlin for ordering the poisoning. Recent press reports indicate that British investigators have come to the same conclusion. With Litvinenko out of the picture, the only member of the Kovalev Commission left unscathed is its 77-year-old namesake chairman, dissident Sergei Kovalev — who has grown notably silent.

March 2007

On Sunday February 25th, the American TV news magazine Dateline NBC aired a report on the killing of Litvinenko. MSNBC also carried a report. The reports confirmed that British authorities believe Litvinenko perished in a “state-sponsored” assasination. In the opening of the broadcast, Dateline highlighted the analysis of a senior British reporter and a senior American expert on Russia who knew Litvinennko well. Here’s an excerpt from the MSNBC report:

Daniel McGrory, a senior correspondent for The Times of London, has reported many of the developments in the Litvinenko investigation. He said the police were stuck between a rock and a hard place. “While they claim, and the prime minister, Tony Blair, has claimed nothing will be allowed to get in the way of the police investigation, the reality is the police are perfectly aware of the diplomatic fallout of this story,” McGrory said. “Let’s be frank about this: The United States needs a good relationship with Russia, and so does Europe,” said Paul M. Joyal, a friend of Litvinenko’s with deep ties as a consultant in Russia and the former Soviet states. Noting that Russia controls a significant segment of the world gas market, Joyal said: “This is a very important country. But how can you have an important relationship with a country that could be involved in activities such as this? It’s a great dilemma.”

Five days before the broadcast aired, shortly after he was interviewed for it, McGrory was dead. His obituary reads “found dead at his home on February 20, 2007, aged 54.” Five days after the broadcast aired, Joyal (pictured, right) was lying in a hospital bed after having been shot for no apparent reason, ostensibly the victim of a crazed random street crime. He was returning home after having dinner with KGB defector Oleg Kalugin, and had been an aggressive advocate for Georgian independence from Russian influence. The attack remains unsolved.

January 2009

markelovpaskoOn January 19, 2009, Russian human rights attorney Stanslav Markelov (pictured, right) was shot in the back of the head with a silenced pistol as he left a press conference at which he announced his intention to sue the Russian government for its early release of the Col. Yuri Budanov, who murdered his 18-year-old client in Chechnya five years earlier. Also shot and killed was Anastasia Barburova, a young journalism student who was working for Novaya Gazeta and who had studied under Anna Politkovskaya, reporting on the Budanov proceedings.

July 2009

On July 14, 2009, leading Russian human rights journalist and activist Natalia Estemirova (pictured, left), a single mother of a teenaged daughter, was abducted in front of her home in Grozny, Chechnya, spirited across the border into Ingushetia, shot and dumped in a roadside gutter. Viewed as the successor to Anna Politkovskaya and by far the most prominent living critic of Chechen strongman Ramzan Kadyrov, who had repeatedly threatened her life, Estemirova was a member of the “Memorial” human rights NGO and a steadfast defender of human rights in Chechnya. Most recently, she had been reporting on the barbaric practice of the government in burning down the homes of rebel activists, often with women and children locked inside.
Link: http://larussophobe.wordpress.com/putinmurders/

As I stated, if Putin wanted anyone dead, they'd be dead.
 

Brutus

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Putin's a poser as far as being a genuine tough guy.

If he knew ANYTHING about guns at all he'd know that you don't hold a pistol in your RIGHT hand and aim with your LEFT eye.

Idiot.......
 

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Ragnarok

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Putin's a poser as far as being a genuine tough guy.

If he knew ANYTHING about guns at all he'd know that you don't hold a pistol in your RIGHT hand and aim with your LEFT eye.

Idiot.......

I'm betting a Colonel in the KGB knows his way around a firearm...

The flip side of the coin?

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Dozdoats

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If he knew ANYTHING about guns at all he'd know that you don't hold a pistol in your RIGHT hand and aim with your LEFT eye.

Some people are cross-dominant - they are 'right handed' but the left eye is their dominant eye, or vice versa. It isn't that unusual, anyone who teaches people how to shoot soon learns that one of the first things necessary in the process is to determine the student's eye dominance. To wit...
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August 26, 2009
Bourjaily: Simple Test to Find Your Dominant Eye
By Philip Bourjaily

Today we have a test with no wrong answer.

Most introductions to shotgunning begin with the “master eye” test. You hold your arms straight out at eye level, fingers up, palms out, hands overlapping, leaving a small hole between the hands through which you sight a faraway object. Then you pull your hands back, keeping the object in sight, until they wind up over one eye or the other. That’s your master eye. If you pull your hands back over the other eye, the object you were looking at disappears. You can also keep you arms extended, sight the target with both eyes, then close one eye then the other. The object will seem to jump sideways out of sight when you close your dominant eye. Try it.

With luck, you will turn out to be right-eyed and right-handed or left-eyed and left-handed. However, you may be cross-dominant -- right-handed and left-eyed, for example. The best thing to do is learn to shoot from the dominant eye side. My older son, Gordon, is left-eyed and right handed. I taught him to shoot left handed from the beginning.

If you don’t want to switch sides, you can shoot with one eye shut, or use a small piece of tape on your shooting glasses positioned so it blocks just enough of your master eye’s vision that the other eye takes over.

I’ve given the master eye test to a lot of new shooters, and I’m learning there is not just right and left eyed dominance. Some people are both-eye dominant or “center dominant.” My younger son John is center dominant – when he does the eye test his hands wind up over the bridge of his nose, not over one his eyes, but it doesn’t affect his shooting. His friend Nicky, who just joined our high school trap club, is extremely center-dominant. If she puts the gun to her right shoulder, the gun blocks enough of her right eye’s vision that the left eye takes over, vice versa if she tries shooting left handed. The first time she shot I hadn’t figured this out yet, and she broke four targets out of about 100 (she liked shooting and wouldn’t stop). Next time, I tried making her shoot left handed, but that didn’t work any better than right handed. Then I put a small piece of masking tape over her glasses to block the left eye’s vision, and she started pounding targets. Last weekend, her third time shooting a shotgun, she broke a 20x25.

So, how did you all do? “Normal” dominant, cross-dominant or center dominant?
 

Brutus

Inactive
"The best thing to do is learn to shoot from the dominant eye side."

You'd think if he was anywhere near competent with a gun he'd have picked up this little tidbit somewhere along the way.

:rolleyes:
 

GunGirl

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Well, my little brother is right-handed and left-eye dominant, and he shoots righthanded. Even though I've placed in national competitions, I am not ashamed to say he is the best shot in the family.

I also know people who shoot a rifle right-handed and shoot a pistol left handed, and are good shots with both.
 

imaginative

keep your eye on the ball
Well, my little brother is right-handed and left-eye dominant, and he shoots righthanded. Even though I've placed in national competitions, I am not ashamed to say he is the best shot in the family.

I also know people who shoot a rifle right-handed and shoot a pistol left handed, and are good shots with both.

Same here; Im right handed but left eye dominant. Of course a long gun is on my left shoulder but Im more comfortable with a handgun in my right hand
 
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