BRKG Obama Fails to Salute Marine (boarding Marine One today)

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-fails-salute-marine_729017.html

9:48 AM, May 24, 2013 • By DANIEL HALPER

Via CBS's Mark Knoller:


UPDATE: More from the pool reporter:

Under gray skies and intermittent drizzle, President Obama boarded Marine
One at 9:30 a.m. EDT in an open press event.

A few White House regulars were atwitter (and on Twitter) when the President
walked directly up the steps of Marine One without saluting the Marine on duty.
He soon came out of the helicopter, walked down the steps, shook hands with the
Marine and engaged in a brief conversation.

His salutes are hollow, meaningless and without honor. He shouldn't be allowed to mimic a salute.

That tells me that something is really on his mind if he forgot to do that. Oh and I agree, his salutes are meaningless because he's such an empty suit. But to me, this is telling

It shows how important it is for someone or his teleprompter to tell him what to do or say.

Why is anyone surprised?

If there is anyone or anything good, right, and true in this country / world, O is AGAINST it and holds it in CONTEMPT.

May God help us.

His salutes are hollow, meaningless and without honor. He shouldn't be allowed to mimic a salute.

This is what I was going to say.
Also--he is not wearing a uniform, so why salute... he is a mindless, elected, DC thug.

He was in a hurry to get to his teleprompter. He's speaking at the Naval Academy:

Live, if interested - *spits*


Obama addresses military sexual assault head during US Naval Academy commencement speech; says these attacks 'have no place in the greatest military on earth' - @AliNBCNews

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Achilles said:

His salutes are hollow, meaningless and without honor. He shouldn't be allowed to mimic a salute.

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Could not have said it better.

Kajun

Achilles said:

His salutes are hollow, meaningless and without honor. He shouldn't be allowed to mimic a salute.

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You beat me to it. This is essentially what I wanted to say.

I read that he came back out of the aircraft and "shook" the Marines hand...but I didn't read that he returned the salute...If he didn't..he should have and if he didn't it would magnify his first mistake x10 in my mind...A salute is always returned..even if it is late.....windsail......

Shinmen Takezo said:

His salutes are hollow, meaningless and without honor. He shouldn't be allowed to mimic a salute.

This is what I was going to say.
Also--he is not wearing a uniform, so why salute... he is a mindless, elected, DC thug.

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Ya realize that he is the Commander in Chief of the armed forces, and BTW he isn't authorized an "uniform" per se. Other prez's have shown up in fatigues and a leather jacket put together by their "valet militar" no doubt. But no actual uniform for CINC exists..I think the founding fathers wanted it that way. I'm sure the marine was saluting the "office" and not the person, I know many that did just that.

Here's my salute to an arrogant punk:

Achilles said:

His salutes are hollow, meaningless and without honor. He shouldn't be allowed to mimic a salute.

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Yep.

If I was a Marine I'd be more offended at having to pull duty to babysit this guy than whether he saluted me or not. His salutes have less impact on than a dog lifting it tail to shit.

So was the Marinne being punished for something?

I miss those snappy salutes that Reagan used to give. Even as a kid, I could see he was full of pride to recognize a serviceman. While he never served a day in the military, he still had a sense of patriotism in how he carried himself and what he said in speeches. Regardless of what you thought of his politics, the man loved this country and tried to do what he thought was right. Those days are gone.

Ummm but Ronald Reagan DID serve in the Military and not just at Fort Hollywood.

MILITARY SERVICE OF RONALD REAGAN


Ronald Wilson Reagan enrolled in a series of home-study Army Extension Courses on 18 March 1935. After completing 14 of the courses, he enlisted in the Army Enlisted Reserve on 29 April 1937, as a Private assigned to Troop B, 322nd Cavalry at Des Moines, Iowa. He was appointed Second Lieutenant in the Officers Reserve Corps of the Cavalry on 25 May 1937. On June 18 of that year Reagan, who had just moved to Los Angeles to begin his film career, accepted his Officer’s Commission and was assigned to the 323rd Cavalry.

Lieutenant Reagan was ordered to active duty on 19 April 1942. Due to eyesight difficulties, he was classified for limited service only, which excluded him from serving overseas. His first assignment was at the San Francisco Port of Embarkation at Fort Mason, California, as liaison officer of the Port and Transportation Office. Upon the request of the Army Air Forces (AAF), he applied for a transfer from the Cavalry to the AAF on 15 May 1942; the transfer was approved on 9 June 1942. He was assigned to AAF Public Relations and subsequently to the 1st Motion Picture Unit in Culver City, California. Reagan was promoted to First Lieutenant on 14 January 1943 and was sent to the Provisional Task Force Show Unit of This Is The Army at Burbank, California. Following this duty, he returned to the 1st Motion Picture Unit, and on 22 July 1943 was promoted to Captain.

In January 1944, Captain Reagan was ordered to temporary duty in New York City to participate in the opening of the sixth War Loan Drive. He was assigned to the 18th AAF Base Unit, Culver City, California on 14 November 1944, where he remained until the end of the war. He was recommended for promotion to Major on 2 February 1945, but this recommendation was disapproved on July 17 of that year. On 8 September 1945, he was ordered to report to Fort MacArthur, California, where he was separated from active duty on 9 December 1945.

While on active duty with the 1st Motion Picture Unit and the 18th Army Air Forces Base Unit, Captain Reagan served as Personnel Officer, Post Adjutant, and Executive Officer. By the end of the war, his units had produced some 400 training films for the Army Air Forces.

Reagan’s Reserve Commission automatically terminated on 1 April 1953. However, he became Commander-in-Chief of all U.S. Armed Forces when he became President on 20 January 1981.

I agree with what so many have said here.... yet... I'm truly bothered that the man did not salute the marine, even after coming back out.

With all that is happening in our country, the scandals, the change in the law, the saying that "the war on terror is over", etc., I just can't help but feel that he did not forget to salute but refuses to salute.

I'm thinking it was more a middle finger kind of thing directed at the military. Maybe I'm all wrong on this, but for me, it feels like a sign or a symbol of the next thing on his agenda.

This proves that one of Obama staff members was. watching Twitter. They read what was being said and they sent him back out to shake the Marines hand. Hopefully the Marine is alright and didn't get anything nasty from Obama.

It's OK.

Other people in various branches of the armed services see this disrespect, and it registers - as it should. They will remember.

Obama probably had to be taught to salute as he had never encountered saluting as a Community Organizer. He is probably also embarrassed at having to recognise a soldier, with whom he is extremely uncomfortable as he doesn't like or respect the military and wants to use a civilian "military" to do his bidding and keep those pesky Conservatives under control.

I don't think we will see him in fatigues any time soon.........

I completely agree that Obamma is a POS dressed in a cheap suit, but the Marine made a mistake here also.

The junior rank is to render the salute first, and hold the salute until it is returned by the higher ranking officer. Would have been better if Obamma deplaned and the Marine was still holding the salute to drive home the point.(pun intended)

Only time I was aware of that the junior rank did not have to wait was when saluting an officer that was in a vehicle (the blue decal).

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..........................................................................................................................................................................."I'm finally getting the respect I deserve. Eat your heart out, Bonzo!"

He still didn't salute, he shook his hand, how rude. Someone had to tell him to go back out since they must have seen twitter comment! HA sometimes it is good to have technology to catch them in the act, too bad the public doesn't know what really is said about all us Americans behind the scenes...only the TelePrompTer commands what is said to us.

Probably still incapacitated....STONED!!!!

DustMusher said:

Ummm but Ronald Reagan DID serve in the Military and not just at Fort Hollywood.

MILITARY SERVICE OF RONALD REAGAN


Ronald Wilson Reagan enrolled in a series of home-study Army Extension Courses on 18 March 1935. After completing 14 of the courses, he enlisted in the Army Enlisted Reserve on 29 April 1937, as a Private assigned to Troop B, 322nd Cavalry at Des Moines, Iowa. He was appointed Second Lieutenant in the Officers Reserve Corps of the Cavalry on 25 May 1937. On June 18 of that year Reagan, who had just moved to Los Angeles to begin his film career, accepted his Officer’s Commission and was assigned to the 323rd Cavalry.

Lieutenant Reagan was ordered to active duty on 19 April 1942. Due to eyesight difficulties, he was classified for limited service only, which excluded him from serving overseas. His first assignment was at the San Francisco Port of Embarkation at Fort Mason, California, as liaison officer of the Port and Transportation Office. Upon the request of the Army Air Forces (AAF), he applied for a transfer from the Cavalry to the AAF on 15 May 1942; the transfer was approved on 9 June 1942. He was assigned to AAF Public Relations and subsequently to the 1st Motion Picture Unit in Culver City, California. Reagan was promoted to First Lieutenant on 14 January 1943 and was sent to the Provisional Task Force Show Unit of This Is The Army at Burbank, California. Following this duty, he returned to the 1st Motion Picture Unit, and on 22 July 1943 was promoted to Captain.

In January 1944, Captain Reagan was ordered to temporary duty in New York City to participate in the opening of the sixth War Loan Drive. He was assigned to the 18th AAF Base Unit, Culver City, California on 14 November 1944, where he remained until the end of the war. He was recommended for promotion to Major on 2 February 1945, but this recommendation was disapproved on July 17 of that year. On 8 September 1945, he was ordered to report to Fort MacArthur, California, where he was separated from active duty on 9 December 1945.

While on active duty with the 1st Motion Picture Unit and the 18th Army Air Forces Base Unit, Captain Reagan served as Personnel Officer, Post Adjutant, and Executive Officer. By the end of the war, his units had produced some 400 training films for the Army Air Forces.

Reagan’s Reserve Commission automatically terminated on 1 April 1953. However, he became Commander-in-Chief of all U.S. Armed Forces when he became President on 20 January 1981.

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That's what they covered in his documentary. While technically he was "active duty", he was mostly doing military training movies and PR work. Because of his near sightedness, he could not serve in a combat capacity. However his documentary stated that he always admired men in military personnel who actually served overseas and it gave him pride to honor them.

Goes along with making the Marine hold an umbrella when speaking, he does not respect your Military, if the guy was wearing a skirt and rags on his head, he would bow and salute, he came back because his minders in the plane told him of his mistake, otherwise he would not have bothered, hope that Marine washed his gloves after having that impersonator of Presidents touching it

Whatever origin of the present day hand salute you subscribe to, it is extremely important that you are able to render and properly return a hand salute. Failure to do so not only reflects negatively on the officer but the Corps as well. People have often asked "What do you never get a second chance to make"? The answer is "A first impression". This holds true for your ability to properly render a hand salute. It has been said that a sloppy salute is worse than not saluting at all. Your technique and your confidence to apply your saluting skills are directly proportional to how much you practice. Not every officer will be detailed to an "Armed Service" where saluting is an everyday occurrence, but you can practice at your current duty station and if possible visit your nearest military installation in uniform. It is expected that you will make mistakes, but this holds true for any learning process. Practice and a sincere effort will decrease the number of mistakes and help you to avoid embarrassment.

Execution of the Hand Salute is performed as follows: "the right hand is raised smartly until the tip of the forefinger touches the lower part of the headdress or forehead above and slightly to the right of the right eye, thumb and fingers extended and joined, palm to the left, upper arm horizontal, forearm inclined at 45 degrees, hand and wrist straight; at the same time turn head toward the person saluted. To complete the salute, drop the arm to its normal position by the side in one motion, at the same time turning the head and eyes to the front"

It is also appropriate to accompany your salute with "Good Morning Sir or Ma'am" depending on the situation. In the Navy and Coast Guard, Officers below the rank of Commander (0-5) are usually addressed as "Mister" or "Miss" depending on the situation. Officers who are at the rank of Commander or above are usually addressed by their rank i.e.. "Good Morning Commander Jones" or "Good afternoon General Smith". You can never go wrong by using "Sir" or "Ma'am", but it is a nice touch if you can properly address a senior officer.

Salutes are usually rendered between 6 and 30 paces. If you are running you should slow down to a walk prior to saluting. If you are standing, you should face the individual to be saluted, come to the position of attention, then render a hand salute. Salutes are also exchanged when to members first meet and again when the conversation is completed just prior to departing.

Salutes must be rendered and returned to all members of the Uniformed Services: The Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard, Public Health Service, and the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration.

If two officers or an officer and enlisted member approach with the intent of conversing, salutes are exchanged and then also after the conversation is completed. Forgetting to salute after conversation has ended is a common mistake. It is the junior person's responsibility to initiate this courtesy prior to departing just as the junior person should salute if passing someone senior to them.

Saluting when not in uniform and uncovered is not usually performed by members of the Naval Services. You may see this practice in the Army and/or the Air Force. If you are saluted and you are not in uniform or in uniform and not covered, tradition dictates that you do not salute. Instead you may great the person saluting you with "Good Morning", "Good Afternoon", or "Good Evening" depending on the situation. If you approach someone who is senior to you and you are in civilian attire, you do not salute. Instead, you may say "Good Morning Sir or Ma'am" depending on the situation. http://www.cdc.gov/od/occp/officership/military_protocol.htm

I was also taught that the person of the junior rank must always beat the senior ranked persons salute in the downward portion, so I guess the CIC can take his time returning the salute, but it would still show lack of respect.

bethshaya said:

I miss those snappy salutes that Reagan used to give. Even as a kid, I could see he was full of pride to recognize a serviceman. While he never served a day in the military, he still had a sense of patriotism in how he carried himself and what he said in speeches. Regardless of what you thought of his politics, the man loved this country and tried to do what he thought was right. Those days are gone. View attachment 99698

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You are so NOT correct.......... Reagan was Army enlisted, and Commissioned as an Officer in the Cavalry, and In the Reserves and He volunteered to Active Duty when Pearl Harbor was attacked and then reassigned to the Army Air Corps (which after the War later, became the United States Air Force). As editor and film producer for the military, and viewing and editing the Top Secret Films, Reagan was one of the first witnesses to the Jewish Concentration Camp Recovery, the Berlin Destruction, the videos and fotos from Recon Bomb Runs, and the true costs of War.

http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=1660

PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN

Posted 9/18/2009

DAYTON, Ohio -- Ronald Reagan's overcoat is on display with the Celebrities in Uniform exhibit in the World War II Gallery at the National Museum of the United States Air Force. (U.S. Air Force photo)



Several years after graduating from college and while employed as a sports announcer by a radio station in Iowa, Ronald Reagan began taking home-study U.S. Army Extension Courses. He enrolled in the program on March 18, 1935, and by December 1936, he had completed 14 courses. He then joined the Army's Enlisted Reserve Corps at Des Moines, Iowa, on April 29, 1937, as a private in Troop B, 322nd Cavalry. On May 25, 1937, he was appointed a second lieutenant in the Officers' Reserve Corps of the Cavalry and on June 18, 1937, he accepted his officer' commission.

Following the Japanese attack of Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941, Reagan interrupted his acting career and on April 19, 1942, went on active duty. This was not achieved without some difficulty because when Reagan took his first physical exam, he was not accepted for active duty due to eyesight difficulties. His persistence finally triumphed and he was given another exam, which he passed. He was classified for limited service only, which permanently denied to him his ambition of serving overseas. His first assignment was at the San Francisco Port of Embarkation, Fort Mason, Calif., as Liaison Officer of the Port and Transportation Office.

At this time, the AAF and Warner Brothers Studios were planning a feature motion picture to be entitled "Air Force" and wanted Reagan for the leading role, so on May 15, 1942, he applied for transfer from the Cavalry to the AAF.

The transfer was approved and on June 9, 1942, Reagan was assigned to AAF Public Relations as P.R. Officer in Burbank, Calif., and subsequently to the 1st Motion Picture Unit in Culver City.

Lt. Reagan was promoted to first lieutenant, Jan. 14, 1943, and on Feb. 26, he was sent to the Provisional Task Force Show Unit of "This is the Army" at Burbank. Following this duty, he returned to the 1st Motion Picture Unit and on July 22, 1943, was promoted to captain.

As the result of a personal request from the Secretary of the Treasury to the Secretary of War, Reagan was ordered on temporary duty to New York City in January 1944 to participate in the opening of the 4th War Loan Drive, after which he returned to California to the 1st Motion Picture Unit. On Nov. 14, 1944, he was assigned to the 18th AAF Base Unit at Culver City where he remained until the end of the war. On Sept. 8, 1945, he was ordered to Fort MacArthur, Calif., for separation, effective Dec. 9, 1945.

While on active duty with the 1st Motion Picture Unit and the 18th AAFBU, Reagan served as Personnel Officer, Post Adjutant, Executive Officer, and even Commanding Officer, often two or more at the same time. On May 15, 1945, in a memo to Gen. H.H. "Hap" Arnold, Commanding General of the AAF, Maj. Gen. James P. Hodges, the Assistant Chief of the Air Staff for Intelligence, wrote that Reagan "has proven himself to be an officer of exceptional ability, demonstrating unusual initiative, and performs his duties in a superior manner. Captain Reagan has received a 'superior' efficiency rating continually since 1 Jul., 1943." The reference to "unusual initiative" undoubtedly resulted, at least in part, from Reagan repeatedly volunteering to assist in producing and narrating AAF motion pictures, in addition to his regular duties. By the end of the war, his military units had produced 400 training films for the AAF.

In 1945, Reagan was recommended for promotion but because there was no major's vacancy in his unit at the time, the request was not approved. On April 1, 1953, his commission in the Officers' Reserve Corps was terminated as required by law and his military affiliation apparently ended. On Jan. 20, 1981, however, he was inaugurated as the 40th president of the United States and became Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. Armed Forces.

Well - we have a Comander in Chief who never served our Country. He doesn't understand about salutes - Obviously one of his staff told him he goofed so he went out there and shook Officers hand. This is what we elected and this is what we got-

Tucson Sal said:

Well - we have a Comander in Chief who never served our Country. He doesn't understand about salutes - Obviously one of his staff told him he goofed so he went out there and shook Officers hand. This is what we elected and this is what we got-

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Yup this.

(Truth be told though, if Obama had his way, with the disrespect he holds for our military, he secretly wants to give the one-finger salute which is why he probably forgot the empty salute. He's not stupid. He knows that he need someone to hold the umbrella for him!)