TIP Is your soda too sweet? Try this

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Here's the deal. I do enjoy carbonated soda. I won't do diet though, because I consider synthetic sweeteners to be little more than cancer food. But most soda is so SWEET that it will put a person into a diabetic coma. I recently figured out that I can mix it half-and-half with unflavored sparkling water. That cuts it down to a tolerable level. I also don't like most of the lightly flavored sparkling water drinks because they don't have enough flavor. And without exception, the fully flavored ones are once again sweetened with synthetics.

So a half glass of plain sparkling water with a half glass of regular soda works perfectly for me. Just wanted to share this little tidbit.
 

brokenwings

Veteran Member
Thanks for sharing that Dennis! I love soda as it is my crutch! I hate the way all the soda tastes now as it is too sweet like you said or tastes like antifreeze. I don't do the poison sweeteners at all. So I will
give your formula a try to see if I like it!! Sounds good!!
 

nomifyle

TB Fanatic
Well, if you have to have soda (Why?) sounds like a good idea. Personally, I've have no soda of any kind since the first of February. Regular soda has high fructose corn syrup for the sweetner (very bad stuff), unless you get Mexican coke, which has real sugar.

Judy
 

nomifyle

TB Fanatic
Thanks for sharing that Dennis! I love soda as it is my crutch! I hate the way all the soda tastes now as it is too sweet like you said or tastes like antifreeze. I don't do the poison sweeteners at all. So I will
give your formula a try to see if I like it!! Sounds good!!

High fructose corn syrup is a poison sweetener.

Judy
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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More and more soda companies are offering sugar-sweetened versions of their products. Or you can always get the Mexican versions, available these days on most store shelves. No HFCS.
 

closet squirrel

Veteran Member
the plain sparkling water half and half with oj or cranberry juice takes care of the "fizzy" craving and still has a taste to it. That is how I beat the soda addiction. Now i drink it 75 seltzer/ 25 juice
 

Parakeet

Senior Member
I consider myself lucky that my go to beverage is water. We picked up a seltzer bottle at a restaurant supply for about $20.00 to make root beer on occasion, though. I agree with Judy on the HFC. The stuff is poison and we avoid it at all costs.
 

MtnGal

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I don't usually keep soda in the house. Every once in a while I do want a real coke or a Ginger Ale, not that medicine taste diet crap. Even the good Ginger Ale isn't like it used to be. They claim it's made with real ginger, maybe so, if you can get passed the medicine taste to taste the ginger.

Sparkling water and cranberry juice sounds good. That I'll have to try with lots of crushed ice.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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I do that too, if I'm in a fruit juice mood but need the fizz.


The fizz clears out my throat on a hot day, unless what I'm drinking is too sweet, in which case it just makes me nauseous. Has to be crisp, clean and fizzy. I won't TOUCH ice cream or milkshakes in the heat of summer. They leave me feeling far more thirsty than anything else.
 

Parakeet

Senior Member
I don't usually keep soda in the house. Every once in a while I do want a real coke or a Ginger Ale, not that medicine taste diet crap. Even the good Ginger Ale isn't like it used to be. They claim it's made with real ginger, maybe so, if you can get passed the medicine taste to taste the ginger.

Sparkling water and cranberry juice sounds good. That I'll have to try with lots of crushed ice.

Might be worth trying?

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/ginger-ale-recipe/index.html


Ginger Ale

Recipe courtesy Alton Brown, 2008
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Prep Time:15 minInactive Prep Time:49 hr 0 minCook Time:3 minLevel:EasyServes:about 2 quarts.




Ingredients
1 1/2 ounces finely grated fresh ginger
6 ounces sugar
7 1/2 cups filtered water
1/8 teaspoon active dry yeast
2 tablespoons freshly squeezed lemon juice

Directions


Place the ginger, sugar, and 1/2 cup of the water into a 2-quart saucepan and set over medium-high heat. Stir until the sugar has dissolved. Remove from the heat, cover and allow to steep for 1 hour.

Pour the syrup through a fine mesh strainer set over a bowl, pressing down to get all of the juice out of the mixture. Chill quickly by placing over and ice bath and stirring or set in the refrigerator, uncovered, until at least room temperature, 68 to 72 degrees F.

Using a funnel, pour the syrup into a clean 2-liter plastic bottle and add the yeast, lemon juice and remaining 7 cups of water. Place the cap on the bottle, gently shake to combine and leave the bottle at room temperature for 48 hours. Open and check for desired amount of carbonation. It is important that once you achieve your desired amount of carbonation that you refrigerate the ginger ale. Store in the refrigerator for up to 2 weeks, opening the bottle at least once a day to let out excess carbonation.
 

BadMedicine

Would *I* Lie???
I make aginger ale out of Kombucha, lightly fermed, tasted AWESOME.

I take 24 16oz water bottles and pour out about half into my sauce pan and bring to a boil, add about 2-4 cups of sugar and let dissolve completely then remove from heat and add about 1/3 cup ground/ pulverized ginger & juices and then let cool.

Then I take a well-fermented kombucha culter, take out a piece of "Mother" cut 24 tiny slivers of the 'body' off and drop one in each bottle. A sliver the size of a finger-nail-trimming is fine. Then about a table spoon of the juice from the bottom, stirred up with lots of yeastu sediment, and innoculate each of them. Then Top them off with the ginger syrup.

I tighten all the lids down, and then un-twist about 1/2 turn so CO@ can escape.. if you dont, BOOM... you get an auto-air-dispersal system which is probably good for getting places you probably forget to use kombucha topically, like in your eyes and behind your ears...:D

So monitor this for about 2-3 days, and when you start to get a little scuzzy floating, I tighten the lids down and check them TWICE A DAY for pressure/ expansion. Some are faster than others, but when they build up a good amount of carbonation and it's getting hard to dent the plastic bottle when I squeeze it, it's ready to go in the refridgerator... When it chills the years will stop working ("Crashing" the yeast) and settle to the bottom leaving you a beautiful clear kombucha ginger ale!

You can leave them with the tops untwisted & out of fridge longer, 5-7 days for a ziny-er zestier more biting kombucha flavor with the ginger (And thus more healing/ health properties of the kombucha mother itself, Or just a couple days for more sweet soda-y ginger ale that still has the benni-s of kombucha.
Also can adjust your sugar to pretty low, but it does need the sugar to convert the kombucha, and also pressurize, so I probably wouldn't use less than a couple cups.

Another tip is when fermenting, if you're new at it, not a bad idea to put all the bottles in a bow (Beer 12 packs work great) and then put your box in a garbage bag so if one does pop your mess is contained.

Walla ginger-kombucha-ale! Kombucha is optimal if drank on an empty stomach 15 minutes before eating.. so When I have this, I hit snooze and turn the coffee/ tea on, go back to bed with a kombucha-soda and read a chapter of my book while I drink it. Mmmmmm Pretty awesome in the morning.

one last thing.. the 'mother' floating on top can definitely be eaten hole, as well as the sludge at the bottom. Unsexy to look at, but I slurp the 'loogie' or "oyster" off the top with the first sip, and swirl and drink all the gunk with the last.. I haven't died yet! :)
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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I pretty-much quit soda severasl moths ago. Might have one if I'm out all day in town otherwise I drink tea.

For fizzy-especially on a hot day working outside [[today]] I'll have a beer afterwards, maybe two.
 

Night Owl

Veteran Member
the plain sparkling water half and half with oj or cranberry juice takes care of the "fizzy" craving and still has a taste to it. That is how I beat the soda addiction. Now i drink it 75 seltzer/ 25 juice
This is the real answer ....get a fruit through the juice and sparkling water. I recently poached prunes in water, took the natural juices and did a 50-50 mix with sparkling water...WALA...Dr. Pepper! Just find a 100% juice to put in without fructose and you have a sweet, delicious drink. The only think to know about sparkling water or any carbonated drink is that the carbonation thins your bones.......so don't drink too many in a day. ;)
 

Dafodil

Veteran Member
Down south I have to mix my sweet tea half sweet half unsweetened. Some people like a little tea with their sugar!
 

Flippper

Time Traveler
Get one of those soda makers and make your own carbonated water. That way you know at least part of your drink isn't made with fluoridated crap unless your tap water has it already added.

I had a soda yesterday from the local health food store in a neighboring town, I bought it because it was made with cane sugar, not the GMO sugar beet crap that is in everything out there. It was fantastic, not too sweet, though it could have used some diluting with plain soda. Sky High I think was the name of the company, I had "orange cream" and it was very Creamsicle! I also bought a Root Beer Creme that I'm hoping is like A&W root beer. I'm going to see if I can find it online for less than what the store charged (79 cents per can), if not maybe the store owner will give me a break on a case of it. I rarely drink soda, but it's sounded good lately. I plan on getting a Soda Stream in a few months so I can make my own with my own sweeteners.
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
Homemade drink carbonation machine. Cost is 2 cents per liter once you start making your own soda. Use whatever size co2 tank you want. All the parts are available on Amazon. Regulator is about 40 to 50 dollars, the special cap and associated parts come as a kit for about 20 dollars and you need a length of tubing and a couple of hose clamps. You can buy everything for as a kit for about $79 on Amazon.
They even have brand new CO2 tanks or you go to a local supplier for welding shops. After you get your first full tank you just brink back the empty and they change it for you.

http://www.popsci.com/diy/article/2012-06/how-make-your-own-home-carbonation-system


How To Make Your Own Home Drink Carbonation System




Sodastream machines are nice, but for the true seltzer addict, a do-it-yourself carbonation system can be cheaper, more flexible, and more fun
By John MahoneyPosted 06.15.2012 at 1:54 pm25 Comments


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DIY Carbonator John Mahoney

If your friends and family are anything like mine, you've observed that home beverage carbonation is experiencing a bit of a renaissance lately. Perhaps you've seen the increasingly ubiquitous Sodastream machine on a countertop near you—or, more likely, heard its syncopated honk and pop-fizz release from across the room, announcing another fresh liter of water made bubbly.
The Sodastream is a nice machine in a convenient package, but for the true fizz addict with a tinkerer's predilection, it's possible to build your own home carbonator that's cheaper, more flexible, and ultimately more satisfying. Here's why you might want to consider your own DIY rig, and most importantly, how to put it together. It's easy!
It's Cheaper

The Sodastream machine's Achilles heel is its tiny, proprietary CO2 tank. The company (formerly known as Soda Club) sells seven different home carbonation machines ranging from $80 to $200 (enhancements along the line are mostly cosmetic), but only offers CO2 canisters in 14.5 and 33-ounce sizes. (The measurements refer to the weight of the gas.) Sodastream claims somewhat optimistically that these are good to make a total of 60 and 130 liters of seltzer respectively. What's worse, these tanks have a proprietary cap which can only be filled by the company. My local kitchen supply store charges a hefty $15 to swap an empty 14.5-ounce tank for a new one. Compare that to the $15 charged by my friendly neighborhood welding supply shop to fill my new five pound tank, and the economics start to come into focus. With luck, my five-pounder won't need a refill until early 2013, and if you've got the room, you can go even bigger on the tank. Web carbonation guru Richard Kinch yields over 1,000 liters from his 20-pound tank—and he likes his seltzer extremely fizzy (more on that in a minute).
It's More Versatile

The Sodastream is an appealingly simple gadget. But once you develop a refined taste for on-demand seltzer, you may find it somewhat limiting. Sodastream's CO2 regulators come factory-set and aren't adjustable, meaning it's impossible to go beyond its pre-defined pressure limit. But with your home-built model's adjustable regulator, you can fine-tune the level of carbonation applied to your liquids. Mr. Kinch favors a tongue-blistering 45-50 psi fizz on his soda water, but if you want a milder 30 psi pop, you can adjust your gas regulator with the quick turn of a screwdriver or wrench. Adjustable pressure also allows you to apply the ideal amount of carbonation to different types of liquids. If you're charging up a batch of tasty gin fizzes (or starting your own modernist cocktail bar), you'll want to dial up the pressure to 45 psi, since alcohol can dissolve more carbon dioxide than plain water. I don't know the ideal pressurization level for cream gravy, but with your bountiful supply of cheap CO2, you're welcome to experiment (please report back with your findings).
With a home rig you can also ditch the Sodastream's proprietary one-liter plastic (or puny 620ml glass) bottles and use anything with a standard plastic soda bottle cap. One liter, two liters—even those cartoonishly obese three-liter bottles—all will work with your DIY carbonator. Just make sure it's plastic—a blown plastic bottle is much preferable to flying glass shrapnel in the unlikely case of rupture.
It's More Fun

If you've gotten this far, I probably don't need to explain to you how satisfying it is to improve on a commercial product with a more economical machine of your own construction. But even if this isn't typically your thing (I'm by no means a handyman), a home carbonator is an exceedingly easy project that just about anyone can handle. So let's get started.
Parts List

• A CO2 tank of any size. Empties can be found on eBay and filled at welding shops, paintball facilities, homebrew hobby shops and elsewhere. My five-pound tank was $100 filled at McKinney Welding Supply in Manhattan and fits into a small cabinet in my kitchen.
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• A gas regulator ($39.95, Amazon). The regulator tames the high-pressure inside the CO2 tank and outputs an even flow of gas at constant, adjustable pressure into whatever you connect to the other end. Nicer ones will have two gauges—one for the gas tank's pressure which will hit zero when empty, and one that measures the output pressure into whatever you're gassing up.
• A length of vinyl tubing (Five ft. with hose clamps, $5.49, Amazon). Tubing rated for pressurized applications is required—you'll want about a 1/4" thickness. You can also get braided vinyl line for a bit more durability. The barb fitting of a CO2 regulator typically has an outer diameter of 3/8 inch, so tubing with an inner diameter of 5/16 inch is what you want.
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• A ball-lock keg coupler ($7.50, Amazon). This piece connects to the other end of your tubing and holds back gas flow until the little inner valve button is depressed by the tip your Carbonator bottle cap.
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• The Carbonator bottle cap ($11.43, Amazon). This ingenious cap screws onto your soda bottle and provides a valve on the other end that engages with the keg coupler to connect your bottle to the gas supply without leaks.
• A standard soda bottle filled with cold liquid (warm water doesn't dissolve CO2 well). Any size bottle will work, so long as it has the common cap size found on a typical two-liter bottle of Coke. I can't resist quoting Kinch again here, who very admirably takes nothing in his system for granted: "If we could send a few back through time to the ancients, these bottles would be considered precious jewels reserved for the king's use."
Total cost: $163.94. It's a little more money up front than all but the most pricey Sodastream machines, but those $15 canister refills add up quickly. After a few months you'll be saving money (ultimately, the system produces seltzer at three or four cents per liter—not bad!). You can also lower your initial spend on the CO2 tank by shopping eBay.
Assembly


Once you have all your parts, final assembly can be done in 10 minutes or less. Here are the connections you make:
  1. Attach the regulator to your CO2 tank by lining up the threaded ends of each. Unless you're the Incredible Hulk, you'll want to crescent-wrench the regulator's threaded nut tight, using PTFE tape, to ensure a leak-free seal.
  2. Attach one line of hose securely to the ridged metal piece (the "barb") on the bottom of your regulator. To the other end of the tube, attach the barb of your keg coupler. Hose clamps should be screwed tightly into place over each tube-covered barb for a snug fit. Congratulations, you're done!

 

Mark Armstrong

Veteran Member
I've done the same to control the caffeine level in coffee. Works for either instant or fresh brewed. Mix regular and decaf in whatever ratio is appropriate to get what level of strength or weakness you want.
 

penumbra

centrist member
I've never been a soda drinker (although I do like Reed's gingerale occasionally as a special treat, it is so expensive), however I LOVE Gerolsteiner (sp?) naturally sparkling water, it is SO fizzy, and it doesn't go flat, AND it's the least expensive of its type. I sometimes like it with a splash of juice, real juice, not "juice drinks", but mostly I just like a few sips of it plain. :)
 

oma

Deceased
I use 1/4 Applejuice or Cider, frozen Applejuice works to; and 3/4 Clubsoda. Our kids always loved it to, so do our Grandkids.
 

willowlady

Veteran Member
Pepsi Throwback -- Real Sugar. I always water my Pepsi about five parts water to one part Pepsi, partly because I need to get a lot of water down me and partly because it's too sweet to drink straight.
 

SIRR1

Inactive
Have anyone tried the bottled water flavorings yet?

I picked up a little squeeze bottle of MIO Black Cherry flavoring on sale for buck at target the other day and just for sh7ts and grins I squirted some of this Black Cherry juice into a cold can of Coke at work and let me tell you it was the best damn cherry Coke I have ever had!

SIRR1
 

mudlogger

Veteran Member
Sierra Mist is sugar also. Several years Dr. Pepper had the sugar variety around Thanksgiving, it was wonderful! and then it was gone.
 
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