REL GENRL Prophetic word: Imminent destruction in Israel; other words?

Hi all,

I received this word this morning from a woman I've known and corresponded with for several years. She does not issue specific warnings like this... Usually just spiritual advice and consoling words. I believe she has a real gift.

I am wondering if others on TB2K have heard from people known to them the same sort of message?

She goes by the name Pelianito. She lives in Canada. Her message for today:

"The sorrow and lamentation that will issue from our first daughter will be great indeed…

"Lamentations 2:5 The Lord has become an enemy, he has consumed Israel: consumed all her castles and destroyed her fortresses; for daughter Judah he has multiplied moaning and groaning.

“Oh my beloved, heaven weeps at the destruction about to fall over daughter Israel! Yes, it falls within the plans of divine providence, but the sorrow and lamentation that will issue from our first daughter will be great indeed. There is nothing now that will stop the destruction to come, but my faithful ones may still mitigate to a degree the sufferings of the children of my daughter Israel. She is your elder sister. Pray for her as you would pray for your own family members. The lamentation will be great. Oh my children—pray!”

http://pelianito.stblogs.com/2012/0...from-our-first-daughter-will-be-great-indeed/

thank you for posting this..

"Yom Kippur"---Day of Atonement---has long been known as a day of sorrow and suffering in Israel. I've read that it will be on a future Yom Kippur that the Jewish people's "veil" over their eyes will finally be removed, that they will "behold Him whom they have pierced, and will mourn for Him, as for an only Son...", and thus THAT day in the future, finally, they will call on Him: "BLESSED BE HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD!" -- and as He Himself promised, "You will not see Me again, UNTIL..." you / they say that, then we know that on the day they DO say that, recognizing as a nation who their Messiah really was / is, then it will be on THAT day that He will return in His Second Coming.

Until then, though, we first have to get through the time of "Jacob's Sorrow", and the death of 2/3 of the Israeli people.

I fear that time is upon us.

Lord, we pray for the peace of Jerusalem! ("They shall prosper that love thee!")

It may be that this film was also prophetic:

(about the film: )


The film itself:

Some of you may remember this song from "Raid On Entebbe" the movie depicting the miraculous rescue by God of His people after their kidnapping by Idi Amin and Muslim terrorists, in 1976.

In that rescue operation, "Operation Thunderbolt", Jonathan Netanyahu (Benjamin's brother) led a group of hand-picked Israeli soldiers in a lightning-raid to rescue their brothers and sisters from under the very nose of the Ugandan tyrant and his Muslim terrorist cohorts.

(by the way, Bibi's brother died in that raid).

Today, we have another black ruler standing with the Muslims against Israel, and "claiming" neutrality---but like him, his "neutrality" is actually aiding and abetting Israel's enemies. May we not end up as Amin did---for he ended up driven from his own country and living in exile, just as he aided and abetted those who kept the Israelis from their own country. Truly, God judges those who harm "the apple of His eye" by returning their actions upon their own heads.


Translation of the words:

• .הִנֵּה מַה טוֹב = Hine mah tov
Behold how good
וּמַה נָּעִים = uMah-Nayim
and how pleasing
שֶׁבֶת אָחִים גַּם יַחַד = shevet achim gam yachad
if brothers (people) could sit together in unity
(in Hebrew, the masculine also includes the feminine when a mixed group of people are concerned)
Yachad is from the word Yachid which means absolute unity and has a higher connotation than just peace and harmony.
that wish for eternal unity Jews singing every Shabbat for the last few thousand years.

If Isaiah 17 is fulfilled in this war like I believe it will be than Israel will indeed be decimated, but its surrounding enemies will be pretty much completely destroyed (Psalm 83 war which will also likely be fulfilled) allowing Israel to finally live in the "land of unwalled villages" that Ezekiel 38 talks about at the time of the unsuccessful Gog/Magog invasion attempt.

Another prophetic word which was also posted in Unexplained:

Prophetic Prayer Alert
by Simantov Allalouf
Word From Yerushalaim
simantov@wordfromyerushalaim.com
Date: 8/28/2012

For out of Zion the Law will go forth, and the Word of Jehovah from Yerushalaim


On the 27th of August Rick Ridings gave a prophetic insight from the Lord in Jerusalem.. He mentioned that a few years ago the Lord had shown him that He was going to hold things back for awhile, and that as we soaked the Land in the Blood of Yeshua the enemy (at that time he saw wolves, and witches and sharks in the Med) was pushed back. But now he feels from the Lord that we need to prepare and not pray for God to hold things back. The destruction that will come from any war is not God's objective----the harvest is!!

We need to be praying as "watchmen" on the walls for the protection of the borders of Israel. One scripture that he used is Isaiah 28:6. God is wanting to raise up an army of intercessors in the Land who will "turn the battle back at the gate." God will allow a degree of judgment in order to wake the people up from their Godless behavior, but we need to be standing guard and praying for the battle to not reach (or enter) the gate of the city. In the days of old that would spell complete disaster for a city. The other scripture was Isaiah 59:16. We must pray for the Holy Spirit to show us the "gaps" in the walls around Israel. Tel Aviv is one of the weakest points. The walls there have been breached, especially through the radical acceptance of the homosexual life-style.

There is a Hebrew understanding of scripture that relates to being more than just a watchman on the wall, but to become a "wall." To stand in that place of weakness and cry out to God for that sin. I can think of a few sins that have certainly weakened the defense walls around Israel----abortion being a primary one. Rick was also shown and told that it is possible for sharks to enter the Med sea. This is not just a prophetic word. Rick has a friend in America who has very sensitive info on certain things. The North Koreans have a submarine that is able to come into protected waters because of it's ability to not be detected by radar. It's called the shark and has been sold to Iran and other countries. So we need to focus our prayer power over the coast of Israel and pray that every hidden vessel will be exposed!!

A pastor in America had a vision (that was shared and then related to Rick) of missiles hitting the land of Israel, but as a missile hit the land, almost immediately a stock of wheat sprang up next to it----giving the understanding that in the hard days that may soon be upon Israel, a big harvest will be reaped. So let us pray for God to have His Body standing at attention---alert to however He would have us pray! And intercede for Israel and for our beloved family. Blessings,

Countrymouse said:

Some of you may remember this song from "Raid On Entebbe" the movie depicting the miraculous rescue by God of His people after their kidnapping by Idi Amin and Muslim terrorists, in 1976.

In that rescue operation, "Operation Thunderbolt", Jonathan Netanyahu (Benjamin's brother) led a group of hand-picked Israeli soldiers in a lightning-raid to rescue their brothers and sisters from under the very nose of the Ugandan tyrant and his Muslim terrorist cohorts.

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Thanks for posting this

Countrymouse,
Those film clips were horrible. Much more realistic than the Hollywood movie-type clips I've seen ("Sum of All Fears").

Y'all should read this thread: http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...l-threatens-pre-emptive-strike-against-Israel

library lady said:

Hi all,

I received this word this morning from a woman I've known and corresponded with for several years. She does not issue specific warnings like this... Usually just spiritual advice and consoling words. I believe she has a real gift.

I am wondering if others on TB2K have heard from people known to them the same sort of message?

She goes by the name Pelianito. She lives in Canada. Her message for today:

"The sorrow and lamentation that will issue from our first daughter will be great indeed…

"Lamentations 2:5 The Lord has become an enemy, he has consumed Israel: consumed all her castles and destroyed her fortresses; for daughter Judah he has multiplied moaning and groaning.

“Oh my beloved, heaven weeps at the destruction about to fall over daughter Israel! Yes, it falls within the plans of divine providence, but the sorrow and lamentation that will issue from our first daughter will be great indeed. There is nothing now that will stop the destruction to come, but my faithful ones may still mitigate to a degree the sufferings of the children of my daughter Israel. She is your elder sister. Pray for her as you would pray for your own family members. The lamentation will be great. Oh my children—pray!”

http://pelianito.stblogs.com/2012/0...from-our-first-daughter-will-be-great-indeed/

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The Sunday before last I was worshipping the Lord at church during Praise and Worship, and the outlines of the nation of Israel appeared before my eyes...I began to pray for Her, Her safety, and for all the citizens to know Y'shua as Messiah. This outline did not disappear for several minutes, and my intercession was deep for Her. This hasn't ever happened to me before. I believe the Lord is commanding those who pray, to pray for Israel in a united fashion. Time is short.

There is a big difference between physical Israel and spiritual Israel. Most of God's promises are to spiritual Israel. Failure to understand this in the days ahead might be the cause of some shipwrecked faith if the 'big picture' doesn't go down the way the theologians and so called prophecy experts have told us.

Countrymouse said:

"Yom Kippur"---Day of Atonement---has long been known as a day of sorrow and suffering in Israel. I've read that it will be on a future Yom Kippur that the Jewish people's "veil" over their eyes will finally be removed, that they will "behold Him whom they have pierced, and will mourn for Him, as for an only Son...", and thus THAT day in the future, finally, they will call on Him: "BLESSED BE HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD!" -- and as He Himself promised, "You will not see Me again, UNTIL..." you / they say that, then we know that on the day they DO say that, recognizing as a nation who their Messiah really was / is, then it will be on THAT day that He will return in His Second Coming.

Until then, though, we first have to get through the time of "Jacob's Sorrow", and the death of 2/3 of the Israeli people.

I fear that time is upon us.

Lord, we pray for the peace of Jerusalem! ("They shall prosper that love thee!")

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Thanks Countrymouse for posting. Your post sums up how I see it also.

Hfcomms said:

There is a big difference between physical Israel and spiritual Israel. Most of God's promises are to spiritual Israel. Failure to understand this in the days ahead might be the cause of some shipwrecked faith if the 'big picture' doesn't go down the way the theologians and so called prophecy experts have told us.

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End time wars of the OT are clear that they involve physical Israel. You don't need to be an expert to see this, God still has a plan to bring them back to Him.

Wil said:

End time wars of the OT are clear that they involve physical Israel. You don't need to be an expert to see this, God still has a plan to bring them back to Him.

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yep!

Hfcomms said:

There is a big difference between physical Israel and spiritual Israel. Most of God's promises are to spiritual Israel. Failure to understand this in the days ahead might be the cause of some shipwrecked faith if the 'big picture' doesn't go down the way the theologians and so called prophecy experts have told us.

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Thanks for this HFcomms...
What is spiritual Israel? It is not JUDAH! The 'land' of Israel, was almost called Judah back in the day. I believe we are the Lost Tribes, the 10 Toes, 10 Virgins, and 10 horns that are Shofar's... I think we are the land of unwalled villages...
Anybody who doubts we are the Lost sheep, consider the definition of the Saxons...
In the old days, the leading vowels were dropped from words... and men being what they are like to hide knowledge... thus the Saxons were derived from "Saac's Sons", or the "Son's of Isaac"...

bagpiper said:

Thanks for this HFcomms...
What is spiritual Israel? It is not JUDAH! The 'land' of Israel, was almost called Judah back in the day. I believe we are the Lost Tribes, the 10 Toes, 10 Virgins, and 10 horns that are Shofar's... I think we are the land of unwalled villages...
Anybody who doubts we are the Lost sheep, consider the definition of the Saxons...
In the old days, the leading vowels were dropped from words... and men being what they are like to hide knowledge... thus the Saxons were derived from "Saac's Sons", or the "Son's of Isaac"...

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So you are a believer in British Israel theology? Or a derivative? Please elaborate or post link(s) for those of us interested.

Yeah that's British Israelism, used to believe it too until I saw the evidence against it. Anyway though it is not what this thread is about a thread can be started in Religion.

Let's PLEASE not derail this thread arguing about who "Israel" is!!!

We have been ADOPTED into Israel--we have NOT REPLACED her!!!

If you read Romans 9-11 that makes that VERY clear.

It even comes right out, in those chapters, and CLEARLY SAYS that "Has God rejected His people? BY NO MEANS! God has NOT rejected His people whom He foreknew..." and goes on to explain that we who were "grafted in" to Israel should not "boast against" the "branches" of original Israel (the physical descendants--the Jews)----and that "darkness" had come upon them only "for a time". Paul wrote this AFTER Jesus' crucifixion, and AFTER the destruction of Jerusalem, so if God HAD rejected physical Israel don't you think PAUL would have known that? But that is NOT what he says.

Satan WANTS folks to believe that "Israel" is NOT "Israel", so that HE CAN MAKE GOD OUT TO BE A LIAR---by saying, "See? See? God didn't keep His promises to the nation of Israel---He let them be destroyed! He can't be trusted! He doesn't tell the truth!"

But what does God say about Israel? He REPEATEDLY says that He WILL keep His promises to them, but NOT due to their "worthiness" or LACK of "worthiness". In fact, He comes right out and TELLS them that they are NOT WORTHY of His keeping His promises to them, but that He WILL do so---NOT FOR THEIR SAKE, BUT FOR THE SAKE OF HIS HOLY NAME.

GOD DOES NOT CHANGE.

Every time we try to discuss "Israel", the "replacement theology" people get on the line and try to take over the conversation.

I am asking you, PLEASE, to go argue it in the RELIGION sig if you want to---you KNEW when you read the OP that the thread poster was talking about PHYSICAL ISRAEL the nation, and so your attempts to start arguing the identity of "Israel" is, to me, an attempt at "trolling" this thread.

PLEASE do not do so.

Put it this way--if YOU, Hfcomms, or you bagpiper, were to start a thread in the REL sig DEFENDING your position, UNLESS you had ASKED for debate on it, I WOULD NOT POST TO YOUR THREAD because I know from the get-go we would NEVER see eye-to-eye, and my input there would only cause dissension and disharmony--it would be TROLLING.

PLEASE do not do that here.

We should all pray for Israel and her people that will probably very soon be put to a test.

Countrymouse said:

Let's PLEASE not derail this thread arguing about who "Israel" is!!!

We have been ADOPTED into Israel--we have NOT REPLACED her!!!

If you read Romans 9-11 that makes that VERY clear.

It even comes right out, in those chapters, and CLEARLY SAYS that "Has God rejected His people? BY NO MEANS! God has NOT rejected His people whom He foreknew..." and goes on to explain that we who were "grafted in" to Israel should not "boast against" the "branches" of original Israel (the physical descendants--the Jews)----and that "darkness" had come upon them only "for a time". Paul wrote this AFTER Jesus' crucifixion, and AFTER the destruction of Jerusalem, so if God HAD rejected physical Israel don't you think PAUL would have known that? But that is NOT what he says.

Satan WANTS folks to believe that "Israel" is NOT "Israel", so that HE CAN MAKE GOD OUT TO BE A LIAR---by saying, "See? See? God didn't keep His promises to the nation of Israel---He let them be destroyed! He can't be trusted! He doesn't tell the truth!"

But what does God say about Israel? He REPEATEDLY says that He WILL keep His promises to them, but NOT due to their "worthiness" or LACK of "worthiness". In fact, He comes right out and TELLS them that they are NOT WORTHY of His keeping His promises to them, but that He WILL do so---NOT FOR THEIR SAKE, BUT FOR THE SAKE OF HIS HOLY NAME.

GOD DOES NOT CHANGE.

Every time we try to discuss "Israel", the "replacement theology" people get on the line and try to take over the conversation.

I am asking you, PLEASE, to go argue it in the RELIGION sig if you want to---you KNEW when you read the OP that the thread poster was talking about PHYSICAL ISRAEL the nation, and so your attempts to start arguing the identity of "Israel" is, to me, an attempt at "trolling" this thread.

PLEASE do not do so.

Put it this way--if YOU, Hfcomms, or you bagpiper, were to start a thread in the REL sig DEFENDING your position, UNLESS you had ASKED for debate on it, I WOULD NOT POST TO YOUR THREAD because I know from the get-go we would NEVER see eye-to-eye, and my input there would only cause dissension and disharmony--it would be TROLLING.

PLEASE do not do that here.

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I sure agree with your post Countrymouse !

Lets get this back on track!


1387. Vision given to Raymond Aguilera on 31 July 1999 at 7:10 PM.

During prayer at Zion Fellowship Church the Lord gave a vision of a large sword. I could see this sword being sharpened on a sharpening stone.

Prophecy:

Then the Lord said, "I will strike Israel once and nothing will grow for a short time." (over)

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My question : what kind of strike would make nothing grow for a short time only?

Countrymouse said:

Every time we try to discuss "Israel", the "replacement theology" people get on the line and try to take over the conversation.

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My comments on who Israel is and my comments on this prophecy are not for you to correct me on. This is not your thread and you are not a mod. You need to learn a little bit about tolerance for someone who views parts of scripture differently than you do. I posted a one paragraph opinion and attacked nobody and you respond with a multi paragraph diatribe that could of been handled via a PM. Physician....heal thyself.

Hfcomms said:

My comments on who Israel is and my comments on this prophecy are not for you to correct me on. This is not your thread and you are not a mod. You need to learn a little bit about tolerance for someone who views parts of scripture differently than you do. I posted a one paragraph opinion and attacked nobody and you respond with a multi paragraph diatribe that could of been handled via a PM. Physician....heal thyself.

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I spoke in defense of the OP when you tried to take the thread off-topic. I freely admit to not being "a mod", and I did NOT CLAIM TO BE ONE---I only, as a regular reader and poster, expressed my FRUSTRATION at those like you who want to beat their own personal drums of "belief" every time someone tries to start a thread on a different topic. We KNOW what you believe, but if you read the OP you KNEW when you got on this thread that it was NOT in agreement with your beliefs, and common courtesy should have led you to pass it on by, instead of changing the topic to an argument on your OWN personal belief system. It is not about "tolerating" YOUR beliefs---this thread is not ABOUT YOUR beliefs--it is about the ORIGINAL POSTER's post on a possible attack on PHYSICAL Israel.

It is the OP that YOU are being rude and "intolerant" toward, and all of us the readers who want to discuss THAT topic, NOT the topic of YOUR beliefs on who Israel is.

Therefore, I believe your actions fit the definition of trolling this thread.

As SEVERAL posters have requested above, I along with them would LIKE to get this thread back on topic.

DefVoid said:

Lets get this back on track!


1387. Vision given to Raymond Aguilera on 31 July 1999 at 7:10 PM.

During prayer at Zion Fellowship Church the Lord gave a vision of a large sword. I could see this sword being sharpened on a sharpening stone.

Prophecy:

Then the Lord said, "I will strike Israel once and nothing will grow for a short time." (over)

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My question : what kind of strike would make nothing grow for a short time only?

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limited nuclear strike?

I find myself constantly thinking about and praying for Israel who to me is like a lonely, forgotten child with the world against it. Even her leader is dismissed by our President in favor of fools.

Pray for her.

The death of 2/3 of the Israeli people does not come yet as that is a clean out of Israel by the Lord leaving the more godly people alive. We have a man's war in front of us.


The Book of Daniel Chapter Twelve

by Cooper P Abrams III
Israel in the Great Tribulation

Daniel 12:1-13

God has definite future plans for the nation of Israel and the chastening that they will endure is to "try them, purge them and make them white" meaning pure. (Daniel 11:35) This last chapter of the Book of Daniel addresses Israel during the period of testing and purifying in the seven years before the coming of the Messiah. God is giving Israel the sure hope that in the end they would be saved and God's promises to them fulfilled. As Chapter 11 explains for a period their future would be dark because they refused to obey and put their trust in the Lord and accept the Messiah. Satan's counterfeit, the Antichrist, will deceive them and thus bring on them a terrible time of unprecedented persecution. God, however assures Daniel that in the end they would be restored and have peace in the kingdom set up by the Messiah.

The Lord explains to Daniel that "at that time," clearly meaning the events of Daniel 11:35-45, Israel's protector angel Michael, shall "stand up." This is God's appointed time to allow Michael, "the great prince which standeth for thy people, to begin to aggressively protect and defend Israel against the Devil. During the events of the preceding verses, the Antichrist will cause the greatest persecution that Israel has ever endured which includes 2000 years of oppression and the Holocaust of WWII under the Nazis. Jeremiah 30:7 refers to this terrible times as "Jacob's trouble." "Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it" ( Jer. 30:7). The events recorded in Chapter 12 begin after the Antichrist desecrates the Temple and seeks destroy Israel and wipe them from the face of the earth.

Jesus spoke of this period in Matthew 24:21-22 saying "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened." This parallels the statement of Daniel 12:1, "there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation." Zechariah foretold this time warning that two thirds of the Jews would be killed, "And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God" (Zechariah 13:8-9 ).

God will not allow His chosen people to be destroyed and He will keep His promises to them. Therefore, God sends Michael to protect Israel during this time when they are threaten with annihilation to preserve them. Michael preserves one third of the ruminant of the Jews, who will survive the Great Tribulation and go into the Millennium kingdom and repopulate the earth. Daniel 12:1 explains, "and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book." Revelation 12:6 also explains that Israel would be protected for 1260 days. (Also see Rev. 12:14, 13:5f) Note that this passage clearly teaches that only those who names are found written in the book are saved. The Jews are not assured of salvation based solely on their nationality, but like all men, their salvation is dependent on their belief and receiving Jesus as the Savior and Christ. It seems tragic that only one third of Israel is saved, but that means that for the first time in history millions of Jews will accept that Jesus is the Messiah and will in repentance turn to Him for their salvation. The Jewish Virtual Library estimates the world population to be 14,596,000 Jews. If the population remains the same when the Tribulation begins, that means an estimated five millions Jews would be saved. 1 These Jews living in the seven year Tribulation, along with probably millions of Gentiles, will understand the prophecies about the end time and will reject the Antichrist and refuse the "mark of the Beast." (See Rev. 13:17, 14:11, 16:2, 19:20, 20:4) Most of the world, however, will be deceived and under pressure receive the mark and worship the Antichrist and thus be condemned for all eternity.

http://bible-truth.org/Daniel12.html

AMEN !!!!!!

Countrymouse said:

"Yom Kippur"---Day of Atonement---has long been known as a day of sorrow and suffering in Israel. I've read that it will be on a future Yom Kippur that the Jewish people's "veil" over their eyes will finally be removed, that they will "behold Him whom they have pierced, and will mourn for Him, as for an only Son...", and thus THAT day in the future, finally, they will call on Him: "BLESSED BE HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD!" -- and as He Himself promised, "You will not see Me again, UNTIL..." you / they say that, then we know that on the day they DO say that, recognizing as a nation who their Messiah really was / is, then it will be on THAT day that He will return in His Second Coming.

Until then, though, we first have to get through the time of "Jacob's Sorrow", and the death of 2/3 of the Israeli people.

I fear that time is upon us.

Lord, we pray for the peace of Jerusalem! ("They shall prosper that love thee!")

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