SteveReloaded
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OK, we WAKE UP, in order to ... stay home... in order to make our point? got it. that should certainly help.
POL 40 Points That Prove That Barack Obama And Mitt Romney Are Essentially The Same Candidate
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If everybody who likes what Ron Paul stands for, decided not to vote, it would send no message. Not a single Democrat or Rino Republican would care. In fact they would like that. It's just fewer people they have to spend money fighting each other for.
If you think anyone, Dem or Repub, is going to wake up the morning after the election and GASP and say " My God the Ron Paul people didn't vote", you are sadly mistaken.
Those who want to put the country back onto a constitutional path just don't have the numbers to do that at the ballot box. Maybe you could make a showing on the ammo box, but it aint gonna happen on the ballot box.
To be realistic, it aint gonna happen on the ammo box either, no matter how many times you watch movies like Red Dawn or how many rifles you buy.
The only way to take the country back is to fight election by election. Whether it's local mayor, county commissioner, state representative, congressman, senator or president. You fight for every victory both big and small. You vote for the most conservative at every election.
How do you think the Libs/Progressives got control of this country to start with? It didn't happen overnight. It took decades. They fought for every small victory in every election no matter how small.
That is the only way conservatives will ever get the country back. However, since we are so close to financial collapse, it probably isn't going to happen.
By the way, I'm going to go see 2016 Barack Obama's America. Had anybody seen it yet? A short review would be nice.
I want to see what the movie thinks will happen in the next 4 years.
/.....Mitt Romney may not be the candidate that many people ideally would want, (myself included) but for the sake of the sweet Lord Almighty, he is not even close to Barack Hussein Obama!!!!...the President chooses the next Supreme Court Justices. Do we want more Kagans or Sotomayors? Ginsberg wont live four more years with her cancer and her very advanced age and 3 more are ancient in late 70s and will probably be replaced this next election
mourningdove
Pura Vida in my garden
www.politicalcompass.org/index agrees with this author. He has placed both President Obama and Mr. Romney right next to each other.
This is a fun test. I came out close to Ghandi but a bit more libertarian than him.
This is a fun test. I came out close to Ghandi but a bit more libertarian than him.
TheHippie
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BertaBurtonLake
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This dude proves your whole argument to be bogus.
The one who fluffed the swearing in?
Ender, to those in the Matrix, ANYONE taking the red pill is psychotic. Further, if you recall, "mental illness" was a "diagnosis" used by the Soviet Union when an "undesirable" needed to be gotten rid of. While I understand the position (and fear) of the ABOs, they're the ones who will trigger the final destruction of America...
Doomer Doug
Deceased
One corporate party. One to entertain them and one to deceive them. And the NWO owns us all.
Prepare for system collapse. It doesn't matter which one of these corporate whores gets elected. THERE IS NO MONEY TO PAY THE DEBT. Once the social programs start to be cut in order to fund the Imperial military they cities are going to burn.
Prepare for system collapse. It doesn't matter which one of these corporate whores gets elected. THERE IS NO MONEY TO PAY THE DEBT. Once the social programs start to be cut in order to fund the Imperial military they cities are going to burn.
Kent
Inactive
You realize the test puts Obama half way between middle of the road and extream RIGHT WING in economics and style of governing?
PghPanther
Has No Life - Lives on TB
one point that sums them both...........
Goldman Sachs pulls the most strings attached to each of them......
Discussion done.............I rest my case......
Goldman Sachs pulls the most strings attached to each of them......
Discussion done.............I rest my case......
by fluffing that ceremony, it made the ceremony illegal and is another birther point of why Obama is not eligible to be President
As for the ObamaCare decision, that leaves the voters in charge of overturning the current entrenched beruocraps and CONgress Critters. It is now up to voters and Congress to FIX the Executive overreaches.
MDINMT
Veteran Member
Romney Is Not a Conservative, Not a ‘Reagan Republican’
ButAsForMe.com ^ | January 7, 2012
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2012 10:43:36 AM by SoConPubbie
ROMNEY IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE
Mitt Romney has a record of supporting higher taxes on American workers
As governor of Massachusetts, Romney raised taxes by over $700 million dollars a year on working families and job-creators, according to a 2006 analysis by the Massachusetts Taxpayers Foundation. (Brian Mooney, “Analyst Puts Increase In Fees, Taxes At $700m,” The Boston Globe, 9/27/06)
The free-market Cato Institute’s annual “Fiscal Policy Report Card on America’s Governors” gave Romney a “C” as a final grade when he left office, noting: “…Romney will likely also be eager to push the message that he was a governor who stood by a no-new-taxes pledge. That’s mostly a myth. His first budget included no general tax increases but did include a $500 million increase in various fees. He later proposed $140 in business tax hikes through the closing of “loopholes” in the tax code.” (Stephen Slivinski, “Fiscal Policy Report Card on America’s Governors 2006,” Cato Institute, 10/24/06)
The number and scope of fees were outrageous, affecting almost every aspect and every demographic group. The Lowell Sun noted in 2003 that: “Gov. Mitt Romney is vehemently opposed to raising taxes. Yet new fees proposed in his budget would hit a broad spectrum of people, including the blind, mentally retarded, veterans, drivers, hunters, lawyers, boaters, skaters, inmates, developers, aircraft owners and golfers.” (Jennifer Fenn, “Romney Budget Raises Fees,” Lowell Sun, 2/28/03)
For more information about Romney’s record of raising taxes, go to www.RomneyTaxes.com ■Mitt Romney has a record of supporting taxpayer funded abortions
A key component of Romneycare is the “Commonwealth Care” program, which provides taxpayer-subsidized health insurance for low-income Massachusetts residents. When the program was launched in October 2006, Romney’s office touted it as “an innovative health insurance product that will allow thousands of uninsured Massachusetts residents to purchase private health insurance products at affordable rates.” (“Romney Unveils First New Healthcare Reform Product,” States News Service, 10/2/06)
Commonwealth Care’s taxpayer-subsidized health insurance plans cover abortion. (Kay Lazar, “Health law adds coverage red tape,” Boston Globe, 3/24/10)
According to Massachusetts-based non-profit MassResources, Commonwealth Care is “run by the Commonwealth Health Insurance Connector Authority and funded by the state.” The web site notes that the benefits Commonwealth Care plans cover include “doctor’s visits, surgery, radiology and lab, abortion, community health center visits.” (massresources.org, “Commonwealth Care: What Benefits Will I Get?,”http://www.massresources.org/commonwealth-care.html#benefits)
For more information, go to http://prolifeprofiles.com/romney
Mitt Romney has a record of nominating liberal, activist judges
Mitt Romney regularly overlooked Republicans in favor of liberal, activist judges when making judicial appointments as governor of Massachusetts. In 2005, his hometown Boston Globe revealed: “…Romney, who touts his conservative credentials to out-of-state Republicans, has passed over GOP lawyers for three-quarters of the 36 judicial vacancies he has faced, instead tapping registered Democrats or independents.” (Raphael Lewis, “Romney Jurist Picks Not Tilted Toward GOP: Independents, Democrats Get Call,” Boston Globe, 7/25/05)
Of the 36 people Romney named to be judges or clerk magistrates, 23 are either registered Democrats or unenrolled voters who have made multiple contributions to Democratic politicians or who voted in Democratic primaries, state and local records show. In all, he has nominated nine registered Republicans, 13 unenrolled voters, and 14 registered Democrats.” (Raphael Lewis, “Romney Jurist Picks Not Tilted Toward GOP: Independents, Democrats Get Call,” Boston Globe, 7/25/05)
“But just two months after he switched his position on abortion, Romney nominated a Democrat who ran for the state legislature as a “pro-choice” candidate to a perch on a state district court….Matthew J. Nestor, a longtime Democrat who headed the Division of Securities under the Democratic secretary of state, was confirmed in March 2005 to serve in a lifetime post on the Somerville District Court. When he ran for a state representative’s seat as a self-described “conservative Democrat” in 1994, Nestor made clear that he considered himself “pro-choice,” according to news reports from the time.” (Rick Klein & Jake Tapper, ABCNews.com, 6/14/07)
ROMNEY IS NOT A REAGAN REPUBLICAN
Mitt Romney opposed President Ronald Reagan
During his 1994 campaign for Senate in Massachusetts, Romney disowned any connection to or affinity for Ronald Reagan: “I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I’m not trying to return to Reagan-Bush.” (Joe Battenfield, “Conservative Group Yanks Its Support For Mitt,” Boston Herald, 10/27/94)
Mitt Romney opposed efforts to elect Republicans
In 1992, Romney voted in the Democratic presidential primary for left-wing former Massachusetts Sen. Paul Tsongas, a fact he still proudly touts today. He proclaimed in 1994, “I’m not a partisan politician.” (David Broder, “Kennedy Tries To Polish Faded Image,” The Washington Post, 10/7/94)
Romney proudly defended donations to Democratic congressional candidates that he made in 1992. He told reporters: ‘I don’t think they’re mortal sins for Republicans to make contributions to good people and to their friends, irrespective of their party.’ The 1992 election had consequences: Democrats took simultaneous control of the White House, House of Representatives, and Senate for the first time since 1980, and Bill Clinton and the Democratic Congress would quickly raise taxes in 1993. (Wayne Woodlief, “Romney: Religion No Issue In Senate Race,” Boston Herald, 2/3/94)
Just days before the 1994 Congressional mid-term election, Massachusetts Senate candidate Mitt Romney vigorously opposed the Contract with America in his debate with incumbent Senator Ted Kennedy. Romney said the Contract with America, signed by over 350 Republican candidates for the House of Representatives, was “not a good idea” and “a mistake”.
Mitt Romney opposed the Contract with America
In his failed 1994 Massachusetts Senate campaign, Mitt Romney vigorously opposed the Contract with America. Running on the Contract as a solemn promise to the American people to accomplish the items of the Contract, Republicans took back the House of Representatives for the first time in 40 years, and proceeded to cut taxes, balance the budget, and reform welfare. (Rod Dreher, “Kennedy Avoids Haymaker In Final Debate With Romney,” The Washington Times, 10/28/94; video available here: Senate Debate, October 27, 1994. WCVB-TV (Boston).)
During his October 27, 1994 senatorial debate against Ted Kennedy, Romney declared “in my view, it is not a good idea to go into a contract, like what was organized by the Republican Party in Washington, laying out a whole series of things that the party says ‘these are the things we are going to do.’ I think that’s a mistake. I think instead that if you want to get something done in Washington, you don’t end up picking teams, with Republicans on one side and Democrats on the other, entering into a contract and saying ‘we’re all gonna do this.’ Then of course, if that works, then the other side feels like a loser. But if they win they feel like winners. I don’t like winners and losers in Washington, I’d rather say, let’s get together and work together.” (Rod Dreher, “Kennedy Avoids Haymaker In Final Debate With Romney,” The Washington Times, 10/28/94; video available here: Senate Debate, October 27, 1994. WCVB-TV (Boston).
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Good luck with that whole "he's gonna appoint conservative judges" thing
ButAsForMe.com ^ | January 7, 2012
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2012 10:43:36 AM by SoConPubbie
ROMNEY IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE
Mitt Romney has a record of supporting higher taxes on American workers
As governor of Massachusetts, Romney raised taxes by over $700 million dollars a year on working families and job-creators, according to a 2006 analysis by the Massachusetts Taxpayers Foundation. (Brian Mooney, “Analyst Puts Increase In Fees, Taxes At $700m,” The Boston Globe, 9/27/06)
The free-market Cato Institute’s annual “Fiscal Policy Report Card on America’s Governors” gave Romney a “C” as a final grade when he left office, noting: “…Romney will likely also be eager to push the message that he was a governor who stood by a no-new-taxes pledge. That’s mostly a myth. His first budget included no general tax increases but did include a $500 million increase in various fees. He later proposed $140 in business tax hikes through the closing of “loopholes” in the tax code.” (Stephen Slivinski, “Fiscal Policy Report Card on America’s Governors 2006,” Cato Institute, 10/24/06)
The number and scope of fees were outrageous, affecting almost every aspect and every demographic group. The Lowell Sun noted in 2003 that: “Gov. Mitt Romney is vehemently opposed to raising taxes. Yet new fees proposed in his budget would hit a broad spectrum of people, including the blind, mentally retarded, veterans, drivers, hunters, lawyers, boaters, skaters, inmates, developers, aircraft owners and golfers.” (Jennifer Fenn, “Romney Budget Raises Fees,” Lowell Sun, 2/28/03)
For more information about Romney’s record of raising taxes, go to www.RomneyTaxes.com ■Mitt Romney has a record of supporting taxpayer funded abortions
A key component of Romneycare is the “Commonwealth Care” program, which provides taxpayer-subsidized health insurance for low-income Massachusetts residents. When the program was launched in October 2006, Romney’s office touted it as “an innovative health insurance product that will allow thousands of uninsured Massachusetts residents to purchase private health insurance products at affordable rates.” (“Romney Unveils First New Healthcare Reform Product,” States News Service, 10/2/06)
Commonwealth Care’s taxpayer-subsidized health insurance plans cover abortion. (Kay Lazar, “Health law adds coverage red tape,” Boston Globe, 3/24/10)
According to Massachusetts-based non-profit MassResources, Commonwealth Care is “run by the Commonwealth Health Insurance Connector Authority and funded by the state.” The web site notes that the benefits Commonwealth Care plans cover include “doctor’s visits, surgery, radiology and lab, abortion, community health center visits.” (massresources.org, “Commonwealth Care: What Benefits Will I Get?,”http://www.massresources.org/commonwealth-care.html#benefits)
For more information, go to http://prolifeprofiles.com/romney
Mitt Romney has a record of nominating liberal, activist judges
Mitt Romney regularly overlooked Republicans in favor of liberal, activist judges when making judicial appointments as governor of Massachusetts. In 2005, his hometown Boston Globe revealed: “…Romney, who touts his conservative credentials to out-of-state Republicans, has passed over GOP lawyers for three-quarters of the 36 judicial vacancies he has faced, instead tapping registered Democrats or independents.” (Raphael Lewis, “Romney Jurist Picks Not Tilted Toward GOP: Independents, Democrats Get Call,” Boston Globe, 7/25/05)
Of the 36 people Romney named to be judges or clerk magistrates, 23 are either registered Democrats or unenrolled voters who have made multiple contributions to Democratic politicians or who voted in Democratic primaries, state and local records show. In all, he has nominated nine registered Republicans, 13 unenrolled voters, and 14 registered Democrats.” (Raphael Lewis, “Romney Jurist Picks Not Tilted Toward GOP: Independents, Democrats Get Call,” Boston Globe, 7/25/05)
“But just two months after he switched his position on abortion, Romney nominated a Democrat who ran for the state legislature as a “pro-choice” candidate to a perch on a state district court….Matthew J. Nestor, a longtime Democrat who headed the Division of Securities under the Democratic secretary of state, was confirmed in March 2005 to serve in a lifetime post on the Somerville District Court. When he ran for a state representative’s seat as a self-described “conservative Democrat” in 1994, Nestor made clear that he considered himself “pro-choice,” according to news reports from the time.” (Rick Klein & Jake Tapper, ABCNews.com, 6/14/07)
ROMNEY IS NOT A REAGAN REPUBLICAN
Mitt Romney opposed President Ronald Reagan
During his 1994 campaign for Senate in Massachusetts, Romney disowned any connection to or affinity for Ronald Reagan: “I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I’m not trying to return to Reagan-Bush.” (Joe Battenfield, “Conservative Group Yanks Its Support For Mitt,” Boston Herald, 10/27/94)
Mitt Romney opposed efforts to elect Republicans
In 1992, Romney voted in the Democratic presidential primary for left-wing former Massachusetts Sen. Paul Tsongas, a fact he still proudly touts today. He proclaimed in 1994, “I’m not a partisan politician.” (David Broder, “Kennedy Tries To Polish Faded Image,” The Washington Post, 10/7/94)
Romney proudly defended donations to Democratic congressional candidates that he made in 1992. He told reporters: ‘I don’t think they’re mortal sins for Republicans to make contributions to good people and to their friends, irrespective of their party.’ The 1992 election had consequences: Democrats took simultaneous control of the White House, House of Representatives, and Senate for the first time since 1980, and Bill Clinton and the Democratic Congress would quickly raise taxes in 1993. (Wayne Woodlief, “Romney: Religion No Issue In Senate Race,” Boston Herald, 2/3/94)
Just days before the 1994 Congressional mid-term election, Massachusetts Senate candidate Mitt Romney vigorously opposed the Contract with America in his debate with incumbent Senator Ted Kennedy. Romney said the Contract with America, signed by over 350 Republican candidates for the House of Representatives, was “not a good idea” and “a mistake”.
Mitt Romney opposed the Contract with America
In his failed 1994 Massachusetts Senate campaign, Mitt Romney vigorously opposed the Contract with America. Running on the Contract as a solemn promise to the American people to accomplish the items of the Contract, Republicans took back the House of Representatives for the first time in 40 years, and proceeded to cut taxes, balance the budget, and reform welfare. (Rod Dreher, “Kennedy Avoids Haymaker In Final Debate With Romney,” The Washington Times, 10/28/94; video available here: Senate Debate, October 27, 1994. WCVB-TV (Boston).)
During his October 27, 1994 senatorial debate against Ted Kennedy, Romney declared “in my view, it is not a good idea to go into a contract, like what was organized by the Republican Party in Washington, laying out a whole series of things that the party says ‘these are the things we are going to do.’ I think that’s a mistake. I think instead that if you want to get something done in Washington, you don’t end up picking teams, with Republicans on one side and Democrats on the other, entering into a contract and saying ‘we’re all gonna do this.’ Then of course, if that works, then the other side feels like a loser. But if they win they feel like winners. I don’t like winners and losers in Washington, I’d rather say, let’s get together and work together.” (Rod Dreher, “Kennedy Avoids Haymaker In Final Debate With Romney,” The Washington Times, 10/28/94; video available here: Senate Debate, October 27, 1994. WCVB-TV (Boston).
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Good luck with that whole "he's gonna appoint conservative judges" thing
Be Well
may all be well
Rombag is disgusting. I vowed I wouldn't vote for him. Two things changed my mind:
1. Realizing EVEN MORE how utterly evil and destructive 0kaka is (meaning he and those revolutionaries who put him there) and the UTTER destruction he and his revolutionary handlers will wreak if he wins another term.
2. Picking Ryan as a veep instead of a similiar slimebag RINO. Yes, Ryan is far from perfect. But I guarantee that there is not one person who could ever run for either Pres or VP that everyone here would agree with 100%. Ain't going to happen in this world. Unless we each ran for Pres...
Thus, Rombag/Ryan buys us time without the looming gulags/re-education camps/Sharia law etc that is INEVITABLE if 0kaka wins. By "inevitable" I don't mean he will necessarily succeed, at least for long, because there will be pushback, but such pushback is never as neat and clean as one thinks it might be.
Rombag, despite his nauseating RINO-liberal-corporastist self serving vileness, is not a commie/muzzie revolutionary who plans mass deaths and the total destruction of the US. Rombag (unless a miracle occurs and there is a REVOLT at the convention) gives us time to kick out the scum. More and more Tea Party type real conservatives are winning primaries all over the US. Change is on the way and I don't mean 0kaka's kind.
1. Realizing EVEN MORE how utterly evil and destructive 0kaka is (meaning he and those revolutionaries who put him there) and the UTTER destruction he and his revolutionary handlers will wreak if he wins another term.
2. Picking Ryan as a veep instead of a similiar slimebag RINO. Yes, Ryan is far from perfect. But I guarantee that there is not one person who could ever run for either Pres or VP that everyone here would agree with 100%. Ain't going to happen in this world. Unless we each ran for Pres...
Thus, Rombag/Ryan buys us time without the looming gulags/re-education camps/Sharia law etc that is INEVITABLE if 0kaka wins. By "inevitable" I don't mean he will necessarily succeed, at least for long, because there will be pushback, but such pushback is never as neat and clean as one thinks it might be.
Rombag, despite his nauseating RINO-liberal-corporastist self serving vileness, is not a commie/muzzie revolutionary who plans mass deaths and the total destruction of the US. Rombag (unless a miracle occurs and there is a REVOLT at the convention) gives us time to kick out the scum. More and more Tea Party type real conservatives are winning primaries all over the US. Change is on the way and I don't mean 0kaka's kind.
MDINMT
Veteran Member
Ryan is a RINO
Many Republicans are understandably pleased by Mitt Romney’s selection of Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan as a running mate. Unlike Marco Rubio, Ryan is a natural-born American citizen and actually eligible for the office. Unlike Tim Pawlenty, he is not a spineless coward with all the charisma of fat-free vanilla yogurt. And unlike Robert Portman, he is not a member of the extended Bush family. He is intelligent. And unlike the current presidential administration, he’s capable of actually putting a budget together, which is a talent that should not go unremarked considering that the country has been operating without one for more than three years now.
The problem is that Paul Ryan is not part of the solution. In fact, Paul Ryan is one of the politicians who is even more responsible for the current economic crisis than Barack Obama. Consider his voting record:
YES on TARP
YES on Economic Stimulus Act of 2008
YES on $15 billion bailout for GM and Chrysler.
YES on $192 billion additional anti-recession stimulus spending.
YES on prescription drug benefit for Medicare recipients
YES on extending unemployment benefits from 39 weeks to 59 weeks
YES on Head Start Act
YES on No Child Left Behind Act
YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent
YES on allowing electronic surveillance without a warrant
YES on emergency $78 billion for war in Iraq & Afghanistan
YES on Budget Control Act of 2011 to raise debt ceiling
Ryan may even be worse than Obama, because unlike Obama he actually understands the various financial numbers involved. He knows that the country cannot afford the level of spending in his budget plans. But because he subscribes to the same Neo-Keynesian economic dogma that fails to account for debt as a part of its conceptual model, he does not have the ability to present any solution that differs from those of Obama, Krugman and Hoover. Consider how he defends his decision to vote for TARP and the bank bailouts in 2008.
“I believe we were on the cusp of a deflationary spiral which would have created a Depression. I think that’s probably pretty likely. If we would have allowed that to happen, I think we would have had a big government agenda sweeping through this country so fast that we wouldn’t have recovered from it. So in order to prevent a Depression and a complete evisceration of the free market system we have, I think it was necessary.”
This is precisely the reasoning that Keynes used to justify his support for massive government intervention in the economy in the 1930s. Like Ryan, he recommended a big government in order to prevent an even bigger government, and unwittingly provided the basis for a much larger government than he had ever envisioned. What Ryan fails to recognize is that the doubling of U.S. federal debt that he has supported did not prevent a depression; it merely mitigated its obvious effects for four years while ensuring that the deflationary spiral will be all the more vicious when the spending finally slows.
The sad reality is that Romney and Ryan have no intention of rolling back Obama’s policies, but rather refining them. Ryan may look attractive to conservatives and Republicans, but he should not because he is neither a conservative nor a genuine Republican. He is nothing more than another big-government Republican of the sort that helped create the very mess that the Republican grassroots are hoping he will solve.
Considering you are convinced there is NO DIFFERENCE you spend a lot of time trying to steer folks back to Obama.
I want the satisfaction of firing Obama and kicking his queen out of the whitehouse. They are a disgusting display of humanity and the idea of suffering through them another 4 years dictating to us what to eat while they live like a king and queen is more than I can take.
rhughe13
Heart of Dixie
SteveReloaded
Veteran Member
so rhughe13, you think we would get better justices appointed from 0 / biden-his-time than we would from the R R ticket?
Shacknasty Shagrat
Has No Life - Lives on TB
MDINMT, thanks for the thread. The 40 points of similarity between Mr. Obama and Mr. Romney are very interesting. Some of the points, like the Harvard connection are interesting but not damning, a lot of good people go to and have gone to Harvard. And some of your other points go to the heart of our repugnant political situation.
Your facts demolished the contention that judicial appointments would put Mr. Romney over Mr. Obama. In fact, like Mr. Eisenhower, a republican like Mr. Romney could get the votes to appoint radicals when Mr. Obama could not get the votes in the Senate.
While some posts seem to attack you, the facts you present regarding Mr. Ryan seem to be unchallenged. He has a history of flopping when the rubber meets the road.
It is hard to refute the woo woo, looney toons assertions that Mr. Obama will kill deliberately kill millions of Americans. If there are any links to support such wild eyed fantasy, I would like them posted for review.
Please keep your forty points stashed away. I expect Mr Romney to be elected and it will be fun to fill in the checklist where Mr. Romney morphs into Mr. Obama.
SS
Your facts demolished the contention that judicial appointments would put Mr. Romney over Mr. Obama. In fact, like Mr. Eisenhower, a republican like Mr. Romney could get the votes to appoint radicals when Mr. Obama could not get the votes in the Senate.
While some posts seem to attack you, the facts you present regarding Mr. Ryan seem to be unchallenged. He has a history of flopping when the rubber meets the road.
It is hard to refute the woo woo, looney toons assertions that Mr. Obama will kill deliberately kill millions of Americans. If there are any links to support such wild eyed fantasy, I would like them posted for review.
Please keep your forty points stashed away. I expect Mr Romney to be elected and it will be fun to fill in the checklist where Mr. Romney morphs into Mr. Obama.
SS
You are right. He doth protest too much about Romney and nothing about Obama.Is he? Could he be? An Obama plant???
Seriously, you can recognize an ideological fanatic because they save their greatest vitriol for those with similar ideals but disagreements on how to accomplish them.
All the while they ignore those who are totally opposed to their beliefs.
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Another possible explanation.
MDINMT,Could your protest be because your hero lost the primary to Romney? I think we might have seen the same vitriol directed at Cain or Gingrich or any other candidate that won, except for Ron Paul.
What are you going to do now? Ron Paul is no more. He is retiring. You already accused his son of being a traitor to the Paul doctrine, so who's going to carry your banner now? Yes, thats the problem with political idols, and believing in a man instead of an ideal.
You made your point, you worship at the altar of Ron Paul and anyone who besmirches his hallowed name is stupid and should die a slow painful death.
Get over it. He lost. He never, from the beginning, had enough supporters to win. Younger conservatives like Paul Ryan and Rubio and TeaParty candidates will succeed where the Ron Paul movement failed. They will succeed by relentless hard work, where the Ron Paul movement failed by trying to sneak around reality by using Rules of Parlimentary Procedure, rather than the strength of their ideas. Their work will take decades, if the country is still around, and more Tea Party Conservatives will join them. They will infiltrate colleges and universities where even the word conservative is banned. They will assume administrative positions in government. They will eventually prevail in the same way the leftists/libs/progressives have in the last 5 decades.
Please don't let your depression bleed over into hate for anyone who plans to vote for someone else.
There are many ways to accomplish restoring the country. Recognize that your way was a way, but not the way.
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JF&P
Deceased
Great Assessment TerryK!!!!
I see this over at TOL too...the PaulBots are full of vengeance and hate....LOL
MDINMT
Veteran Member
I'll refer you to post #40,Terry. As far as getting anyone to "not vote", why would I do that? RP isn't done yet. We'll see what happens 10 days from now.
When you two gurls get done holding hands and smooching in the garden path...whats that? Mitt says its OK wit him so its OK wit you? Carry on then.
Be Well
may all be well
You aren't aware that 0kaka is a fake persona, a fiction, a cutout, created by hardcore leftists and muzzies? His "autobiography" is made up and written by Ayers? His name is not BHO? He is not the son of the parents supposedly his parents? His entire life hidden, fictionalized, scrubbed, hidden, forged? Photos 'shopped? His purpose for becoming president is to destroy the US. He didn't get there by himself - a drug head faggot commie! He was put there by very radical communists and muslims. Ayers is his good ol' buddy and mentor, Ayers family helped pay or paid for college, whether Columbia or Harvard, I can't remember; a former Black Panther Muslim paid for Harvard (it might have been a Saudi Muslim, those names get mixed up). His 0bamacare plan will kill millions due to neglect and "sorry, no medical care for you!". Ayers specifically said that 10% of the population would not be re-educated and would need to be "eliminated". Ayers' views have not mellowed with age.
Obama is allied with hardcore radical Muslim Brotherhood members - they're in OUR government, adivising our gov agencies on - terrorism! Invited for dinner to the WH! He told Medvedev he can be more "flexible" after the elections - in connection with reducing our defenses!
It's not a wild eyed fantasy. People in Germany, Europe and the US thought Hitler was a wild eyed crazy man who would never do what he said he wanted to do. But he did it. 0bama is just as if not more dangerous than Hitler.
MDINMT
Veteran Member
Agreed. And now you want to vote for someone materially the same. Your own sig line is your hint.
I'll refer you to post #40,Terry. As far as getting anyone to "not vote", why would I do that? RP isn't done yet. We'll see what happens 10 days from now.
When you two gurls get done holding hands and smooching in the garden path...whats that? Mitt says its OK wit him so its OK wit you? Carry on then.
MDINMT You really need to switch to decaff.
You post about 1% anti Obama and 99% anti Romney and 0% anti Paul.
Tell me that all your hopes, all your ideas, your whole philosophy isn't based on one man. Tell me it's more than that.
Your hero in true libertarian fashion is the one who defends gay rights in everything. Thats a plank of libertarianism. He has many other libertarian beliefs that many conservatives disagree with here and there, but most conservatives can see past a lot of those and also see the good points in Ron Pauls philosophy.
Unfortunately most paulistas can't see any good in any one except for Paul.
Again I ask you, Whatcha gonna do when you don't have Ron Paul anymore?
I bet it's going to really piss you off when he comes out supporting his son in a few years.
Most Paul people have no course of action, no answers and no plans that don't depend on Paul.
Be a man of ideas, not a sicophantic idol worshipper who has no plans beyond his idol
Hey I have an idea for those lonely nights after the convention. When Ron Paul is out of the running, Get one of these to console yourself
Anyone wanna Ron Paul doll?
I laughed at youe "gurls" comment, but instead of name calling back and forth I thought you might like these items to console yourself with.
Hell I'll buy you one if Ron Paul wins the nomination.
Ron, say it isn't so, say it isn' so!!!!!!!!!!
Representative Ron Paul's (R - TX) SUPERPAC, REVOLUTIONPAC, is now offering RON PAUL action figures for sale:
Speechless...
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MDINMT
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MDINMT You really need to switch to decaff.
You post about 1% anti Obama and 99% anti Romney and 0% anti Paul.
Your hero in true libertarian fashion is the one who believes gay this and gay that along with gay everything else.
Most RP people overlook many of those libertarian beliefs of Paul that they don't agree with. How about you??
Again I ask you, Whatcha gonna do when you don't have Ron Paul anymore?
I bet it's going to really piss you off when he comes out supporting his son in a few years.
Most Paul people have no course of action, no answers and no plans that don't depend on Paul.
Be a man of ideas, not a sicophantic idol worshipper who has no plans beyond his idol
Hey I have an idea for those lonely nights after the convention. When Ron Paul is out of the running, Get one of these
Anyone wanna Ron Paul doll?
Ron, say it isn't so, say it isn' so!!!!!!!!!!
Representative Ron Paul's (R - TX) SUPERPAC, REVOLUTIONPAC, is now offering RON PAUL action figures for sale:
Speechless...
Actually, Terry, I have a very big problem with his stance on gays in the military. As a former Infantryman, I believe it has a detrimental effect to the moral,health and welfare of of all servicemen(and women) who have to wonder who is in the shower and foxhole with them. But as you have said MANY times, I overlook the small things to achieve the big picture.
Mitts willing to let them instruct boy scouts. Is THAT alright with YOU? RP believes in the constitution, which means the Boy scouts can exclude anyone they wish.That message would be the same for any Constitution adhering individual.I'm sorry to say I can't include you in that very fine club. Or mittens.
This dude proves your whole argument to be bogus.
And when you go shooting and miss with one bullet out of ten that just proves you're no damn good at shooting, right???
And if you can't tell the difference between Romney and the freaking marxist-in-Chief, then the same goes for you.
And I knew this was, behind it all, a "Ron Paul" thing. Everyone who thinks Ron Paul is the next coming of Jesus Christ has this same "they're all alike" attitude. Once it became clear that he was NOT going to be a contender, the bitterness kicked in, and now "They're all the same" has become the Paulite mantra.
BULLSHIT!!!!
Be Well
may all be well
Rombag said he thought "anyone" should be able to be a BS but said that they were a private org and could make their own choices. Paul actively said he supports the homo agenda, I posted a thread about that some time ago. He said that homos cause less trouble in the mil than then others - of course in numbers, but the proportion of sex crimes commited by homos is much larger than the rest of the mil population.
Be Well
may all be well
If you think Rombag/Ryan are planning gulags and mass deaths, you are certifiably nutso. You think Rombag is affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood? A Moslem himself? A black racist who hates whites? Wants open borders and to arm drug cartels? Wants to destroy our military? Is backed and funded by hardcore communists and Muslims?
Okaka and Rombag are "materially the same"? Rombag is disgusting but he is not the same as 0bama. You are talking utter nonsense. If you want to criticze Rombag, be my guest - he is loathesome and I will agree with all valid criticism. But he is NOT a dangerous radical Moslem communist like 0kaka and that makes a huge difference.
And here's something funny - Paul allied himself with Code Pink and other Moslem loving "Great Satan" haters, so in that field he is quite like 0kaka!
/sarcasm
OH NO MAN!!! We will vote for the RIGHT man, no matter what!!
We are pure in philosophy, pure in our absolute, rigid ideology, and we will have no other before Him!!! The almighty Savior - R_n P_ul
You just can't SEE it man!! You need to get your mind right dude!!! You need to be ENLIGHTENED!!! You are just a neocon rhino-loving blind fool!!
We lost Ron Paul, so now NO ONE is good enough!!! If our man RP can't run it, then no one can!!!!
It's a pure, beautiful vision man... you just can't see it.
"They're not RP, They're all the same..." (say it with me)
"They're not RP, They're all the same..."
Tear it down man, and let R_N Almighty build it back - He is the only one!!!
/sarcasm
And this foolish philosophy will help complete the total, unrecoverable destruction of this nation...
If you have a big problem with his stance on gays, then why do you support him.
What about his stance on completely free trade and the ability of countries like China to flood the US market with products that US companies have no hope of matching? This would put even more people out of business.
What about his stance on complete legalization for all drugs for everyone?
What about his wanting to cut back the military to a small fraction of the size it is today?
What about his accepting moneyfrom Stormfront and not returning it once he found out where it came from?
I will also say this. I like most of Pauls economic ideas. They are what we need. I also see many things wrong with Romney, but I don't get apoplectic when people point out these things. What I don't like is people implying that if you don't support Ron Paul or have the audacity to support another Republican, you are an idiot.
What most people who will not vote for Paul have a hard time dealing with is the extreme hate and ridicule that paulistas shower on anyone who disagrees one iota with their hero. As I said in previous threads Pauls supporters are his single biggest negative.
Saying all that, my vote is this election is to get rid of Obama and to put as many TeaParty like conservatives in as possible..
This video about Paul fanatics is the main reason Paul doesn't have a much larger number of supporters. His own most ardent fans are the ones killing him.
This is what it is like sometimes talking to a RP supporter.
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MDINMT
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It's not "Ron Paul" thing. Its a "Constitution" thing. AND as the OP suggests, it IS very difficult to tell a difference between mittens and "da wun".
Monty
Veteran Member
And this foolish philosophy will help complete the total, unrecoverable destruction of this nation...
I'm interested in hearing your philosophy that will help stop the total, unrecoverable destruction of this nation.
I hope you have better than, "Step 1: Vote for Romney/Ryan".
Monty
Binkerthebear
Veteran Member
Well, we woke up on election day and realized we'd elected a commie. Maybe we'll wake up this November and find that Romney is actually an RP libertarian.
And for the record, any pics of Judge Roberts now make be nauseous.
And for the record, any pics of Judge Roberts now make be nauseous.