POL 40 Points That Prove That Barack Obama And Mitt Romney Are Essentially The Same Candidate

What a depressing choice the American people are being presented with this year. We are at a point in our history where we desperately need a change of direction in the White House, and we are guaranteed that we are not going to get it. The Democrats are running the worst president in American history, and the Republicans are running a guy who is almost a carbon copy of him. The fact that about half the country is still supporting Barack Obama shows how incredibly stupid and corrupt the American people have become. No American should have ever cast a single vote for Barack Obama for any political office under any circumstances. He should never have even been the assistant superintendent in charge of janitorial supplies, much less the president of the United States. The truth is that Barack Obama has done such a horrible job that he should immediately resign along with his entire cabinet. But instead of giving us a clear choice, the Republicans nominated the Republican that was running that was most similar to Barack Obama. In fact, I don't think we have ever had two candidates for president that are so similar. Yes, there are a few minor differences between them, but the truth is that we are heading into Obama's second term no matter which one of them gets elected. The mainstream media makes it sound like Obama and Romney are bitter ideological rivals but that is a giant lie. Yeah, they are slinging lots of mud at each other, but they both play for the same team and the losers are going to be the American people.

Republicans are being told that they have "no choice" but to vote for Romney because otherwise they will get another four years of Obama.

This "lesser of two evils" theme comes out every four years. We are told that we "must" vote for a horrible candidate because the other guy is even worse.

Well, millions of Americans are getting sick of this routine. Perhaps that is why it is being projected that as many as 90 million Americans of voting age will not vote this year.

Yes, Barack Obama has been so horrible as president that it is hard to put it into words.

But Mitt Romney would be just like Barack Obama.

Those that are dreaming of a major change in direction if Romney is elected are going to be bitterly, bitterly disappointed.

The following are 40 ways that Barack Obama and Mitt Romney are essentially the same candidate....

1. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both supported TARP.

2. Mitt Romney supported Barack Obama's "economic stimulus" packages.

3. Mitt Romney says that Barack Obama's bailout of the auto industry was actually his idea.

4. Neither candidate supports immediately balancing the federal budget.

5. They both believe in big government and they both have a track record of being big spenders while in office.

6. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both fully support the Federal Reserve.

7. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney are both on record as saying that the president should not question the "independence" of the Federal Reserve.

8. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney have both said that Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke did a good job during the last financial crisis.

9. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both felt that Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke deserved to be renominated to a second term.

10. Both candidates oppose a full audit of the Federal Reserve.

11. Both candidates are on record as saying that U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has done a good job.

12. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney have both been big promoters of universal health care.

13. Mitt Romney was the one who developed the plan that Obamacare was later based upon.

14. Wall Street absolutely showers both candidates with campaign contributions.

15. Neither candidate wants to eliminate the income tax or the IRS.

16. Both candidates want to keep personal income tax rates at the exact same levels for the vast majority of Americans.

17. Both candidates are "open" to the idea of imposing a Value Added Tax on the American people.

18. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both believe that the TSA is doing a great job.

19. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both supported the NDAA.

20. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both supported the renewal of the Patriot Act.

21. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both believe that the federal government should be able to indefinitely detain American citizens that are considered to be terrorists.

22. Both candidates believe that American citizens suspected of being terrorists can be killed by the president without a trial.

23. Barack Obama has not closed Guantanamo Bay like he promised to do, and Mitt Romney actually wants to double the number of prisoners held there.

24. Both candidates support the practice of "extraordinary rendition".

25. They both support the job-killing "free trade" agenda of the global elite.

26. They both accuse each other of shipping jobs out of the country and both of them are right.

27. Both candidates are extremely soft on illegal immigration.

28. Neither candidate has any military experience. This is the first time that this has happened in a U.S. election since 1944.

29. Both candidates earned a degree from Harvard University.

30. They both believe in the theory of man-made global warming.

31. Mitt Romney has said that he will support a "cap and trade" carbon tax scheme (like the one Barack Obama wants) as long as the entire globe goes along with it.

32. Both candidates have a very long record of supporting strict gun control measures.

33. Both candidates have been pro-abortion most of their careers. Mitt Romney's "conversion" to the pro-life cause has been questioned by many. In fact, Mitt Romney has made millions on Bain Capital's investment in a company called "Stericycle" that incinerates aborted babies collected from family planning clinics.

34. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both believe that the Boy Scout ban on openly gay troop leaders is wrong.

35. They both believe that a "two state solution" will bring lasting peace between the Palestinians and Israel.

36. Both candidates have a history of nominating extremely liberal judges.

37. Like Barack Obama, Mitt Romney also plans to add "signing statements" to bills when he signs them into law.

38. They both have a horrible record when it comes to job creation.

39. Both candidates believe that the president has the power to take the country to war without getting the approval of the U.S. Congress.

40. Both candidates plan to continue running up more government debt even though the U.S. government is already 16 trillion dollars in debt.


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Thanks for this. I am always trying to get my "republican" friends to see the truth that there really isn't any difference. It is hard for people to really look and dig deep.

0kaka is a communist and a muzzie. Rombag although utterly loathesome, is neither.

Be Well said:

0kaka is a communist and a muzzie. Rombag although utterly loathesome, is neither.

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Yes, your scum IS better than their scum, by golly.

/Rant on



What a load of horsecrap!!

And just because I disagree, that doesn't mean I'm ignorant, out of touch, blind, need to be enlightened, or any other simpleton bullsh*t.

And it also doesn't mean that those who think they are the same, are somehow smarter, more in touch, nor more "enlightened".

Just the opposite.

Quit deluding yourself.

Mitt Romney may not be the candidate that many people ideally would want, (myself included) but for the sake of the sweet Lord Almighty, he is not even close to Barack Hussein Obama!!!!

Please, all of you who think (and I use that term loosely) so, stop proving what a bunch of dunces you are.

This kind of thinking (when it is real, and not political strategy) is actually dangerous.

Please.

/Rant off

Rummy/Ryan is just another RailRoad... but the tracks point to the same hell that the Obama RR is going to.

Different conductors to the same hell.

well, there's always write-in's, but people really don't spend the time doing that

so.... you got what you got

Donner9x said:

/Rant on



What a load of horsecrap!!

And just because I disagree, that doesn't mean I'm ignorant, out of touch, blind, need to be enlightened, or any other simpleton bullsh*t.

And it also doesn't mean that those who think they are the same, are somehow smarter, more in touch, nor more "enlightened".

Just the opposite.

Quit deluding yourself.

Mitt Romney may not be the candidate that many people ideally would want, (myself included) but for the sake of the sweet Lord Almighty, he is not even close to Barack Hussein Obama!!!!

Please, all of you who think (and I use that term loosely) so, stop proving what a bunch of dunces you are.

This kind of thinking (when it is real, and not political strategy) is actually dangerous.

Please.

/Rant off

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If you take the link to the OA, there are links in each sentence to substantiate each point. I assume by dangerous you mean the truth?

Doesn't everyone get it yet?...all the polititians are corrupt and have the same powers that be to answer to. You can't be a polititian today unless you play the same game. It's all about pitting one against the other to look like there is a difference.....cloward/pivan strategy! Those of you who think there's any good guys in the running are still asleep and don't really get how it works!

A choice of a .45 to the right side of the head or a 9mm to the left.

Toss yer coin and take your chances but either are gonna blow your mind.

HEY, I agree,but we cant go another four years with the lies and bulls*it we got with sambo.We are a joke to the whole world because of the joker we have in WH.We gotta go some where else and send him packing at christmas.We got no choice..

MDINMT said:

Yes, your scum IS better than their scum, by golly.

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I'd rather have a president who isn't planning gulags and mass killings, thank you. Gives us some time to get back to Constitutional governance.

MDINMT said:

If you take the link to the OA, there are links in each sentence to substantiate each point. I assume by dangerous you mean the truth?

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Humans are 95% like apes, but the tiny bit that is different is everything.
It is a pet peave of mine as well when people draw equivalencies between Republicans and Democrats. Yes, they are largely similar; this doesn't mean that there are not important differences. Does anyone really believe that a President Paul would yield the same effect as a President Pelosi, either here or abroad? Please...it's absurd. The psychological effect on citizens alone would create profound differences. Wake up.

Be Well said:

I'd rather have a president who isn't planning gulags and mass killings, thank you. Gives us some time to get back to Constitutional governance.

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We have been voting the lesser of two evils for so long, it's not even clear there is a difference anymore. If you think willard is going to be any different then the wun on gulags and mass anything, you are mistaken.

Moto said:

Humans are 95% like apes, but the tiny bit that is different is everything.
It is a pet peave of mine as well when people draw equivalencies between Republicans and Democrats. Yes, they are largely similar; this doesn't mean that there are not important differences. Does anyone really believe that a President Paul would yield the same effect as a President Pelosi, either here or abroad? Please...it's absurd. The psychological effect on citizens alone would create profound differences. Wake up.

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Well, if you can't tell the difference between pelousy and RP, you have more problems than I can help you with.

0kaka will create gulags, re-education camps, mass death, starvation. Rombag will not. We will have a chance to survive as a country and as individuals and live to kick a**. By allowing 0kaka to win, it's bloodshed time. I am planning to vote for Rombag not because I think he is not disgusting, but because 0kaka is worse than most people think he is.

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2012/08/who-is-your-mama-who-is-your-papa-who.html

I will post the above as a thread later. It's complext with graphics and I will have the time later.

MDINMT said:

We have been voting the lesser of two evils for so long, it's not even clear there is a difference anymore. If you think willard is going to be any different then the wun on gulags and mass anything, you are mistaken.

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You're veering into psychosis there, hun.

scandiwoman said:

Doesn't everyone get it yet?...all the polititians are corrupt and have the same powers that be to answer to. You can't be a polititian today unless you play the same game. It's all about pitting one against the other to look like there is a difference.....cloward/pivan strategy! Those of you who think there's any good guys in the running are still asleep and don't really get how it works!

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+1000!

It's not even "different sides of the same coin" anymore. Samo-samo. But yep. Joe Average is asleep and still thinks there's a difference.

Kajun

Be Well said:

You're veering into psychosis there, hun.

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That's a load of crap.

MDINMT is telling you the truth and HE"S boarding on psychosis?

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Every recent president has been a POS, opening unconstitutional doors that help the next president go farther down the fascist/communist agenda.

Romney is NO different than Obama- in fact I think they are more alike than any 2 presidential candidates that I have ever known about. ObamaCare is RomneyCare- what else needs to be said?

Psychosis and rabid fanaticism.
It's typical of those who think all the ills of our country could be fixed in a single election. Aint gonna happen.

Mdinmt: anyone who complied with all the points you mentioned couldn't be elected dog catcher.

The downhill slide of this country must first be slowed, then stopped and finally turned around.
There is such an ingrained belief in socialism in all the media and at least half the population that there is nothing that can immediately stop and reverse the course the country is on. It will take decades. The trouble is we don't have decades
Those who think electing Ron Paul will turn us around are just deluding themselves. Again most fanatics believe that every thing would just be peachy keen if everyone just thought the same way they do. Sorry, thats not gonna happen. Wake up and deal with reality.

scandiwoman said:

Doesn't everyone get it yet?...all the polititians are corrupt and have the same powers that be to answer to. You can't be a polititian today unless you play the same game. It's all about pitting one against the other to look like there is a difference.....cloward/pivan strategy! Those of you who think there's any good guys in the running are still asleep and don't really get how it works!

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It's so simple for some to see the truth... Others just wallow in ignorance and at this stage in the game, I have to say that the latter party remain ignorant by choice because there is no other reason to not "get it" by now.

Be Well said:

You're veering into psychosis there, hun.

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That's funny, I don't care who you are... How long have you been playing the game?

I came here to post the definition of "insane" but I see Ender beat me to it.

scandiwoman said:

Doesn't everyone get it yet?...all the polititians are corrupt and have the same powers that be to answer to. You can't be a polititian today unless you play the same game. It's all about pitting one against the other to look like there is a difference.....cloward/pivan strategy! Those of you who think there's any good guys in the running are still asleep and don't really get how it works!

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The Communist, mooslums, Corporations, even the war mongering Texans (Joke) are corrupt and want something from the American people!

since there is no Positive who or what to do in the OP, I must conclude this is more effort to discourage voting. Now let's see who does that benefit? Ok, so who is behind this? hmmm.

BTW, JK about not knowing where this came from. It is obviously from the RP camp due to the focus on the fed, etc.

would still be nice to see some fireworks and a different outcome at the convention, doubtful as that may be. S
It will likely be Mit/Ryan against Obummer/biden_his_time
So, we have too choose. Even if you choose not too decide, you still have made a choice. (shamelessly stolen from Rush (the band, not limbough) )
or, we all take our sharpie pens to our electronic voting machines and write in our candidate dejour, feel proud of ourselves for a minute, and go back to complaining how bad things are.

Yes, Paul is in with the rest of them....I can't believe that people can't see that. He's just a phoney....a good one though, because he's convinced many that he's the good guy. It's just wild that everyone can't see it. Just a sugar coated liar. Again, you can't be a polititian these days without a same agenda. Sure, they all say and pretend that they're something that they're not and fool many. I sure don't want to be the fooled. These liars just polish the outside and convince people that they are someone they aren't....wake up everybody!

Political idealists in this country need to face reality. There are two powerful parties and dozens of impotent ones in this country.
The only hope to have a truly conservative candidate become president is to eventually control the Republican Party.
The Paulistas made an attempt but it didn't suceed almost as soon as it started.
Right now Sarah Palin would be able to get more votes than Paul. Thats just the way it is. That's the way the American people are thinking, if you can call it thinking.

The only hope right now is for the TeaParty to get more and more power within the Republican Party, but even that doesn't look like it is happening.

Face it America is a terminal patient in the final stages of dying and just about the only thing the election can do no matter who is running, is to provide hospice treatment to help facilitate a death with dignity.

It's sad but but we have long since reached the tipping point when so many Americans individuals and businesses are dependent on government handouts and favoritism.

There are only 2 choices for true Americans. Write in Ron Paul or vote 3rd party such as Gary Johnson. Only by demonstrating that there are enough good people out there that want and would support an alternative to the 2 parties will we ever get an alternative.

scandiwoman said:

Yes, Paul is in with the rest of them....I can't believe that people can't see that. He's just a phoney....a good one though, because he's convinced many that he's the good guy. It's just wild that everyone can't see it. Just a sugar coated liar. Again, you can't be a polititian these days without a same agenda. Sure, they all say and pretend that they're something that they're not and fool many. I sure don't want to be the fooled. These liars just polish the outside and convince people that they are someone they aren't....wake up everybody!

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That's a load of bullshit. You wanna try proving your remarks?

Be Well said:

You're veering into psychosis there, hun.

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At least I'm only veering

TerryK said:

Psychosis and rabid fanaticism.
It's typical of those who think all the ills of our country could be fixed in a single election. Aint gonna happen.

Mdinmt: anyone who complied with all the points you mentioned coulnd't be elected dog catcher.

And they should not be. Those 40 points pertain to mitt and da "O" and how they are the same. They are very similar, wouldn't you say?

The downhill slide of this country must first be slowed, then stopped and finally turned around.
There is such an ingrained belief in socialism in all the media and at least half the population that there is nothing that can immediately stop and reverse the course the country is on. It will take decades. The trouble is we don't have decades
Those who think electing Ron Paul will turn us around are just deluding themselves. Again most fanatics believe that every thing would just be peachy keen if everyone just thought the same way they do. Sorry, thats not gonna happen. Wake up and deal with reality.

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MDINMT said:

At least I'm only veering

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Many people do not realize how extremely dangerous 0bomba is. Rombag and his peeps will not institute mass slaughter, gulags, etc. 0kaka and his handlers will. That's a huge difference.

Ragnarok said:

It's so simple for some to see the truth... Others just wallow in ignorance and at this stage in the game, I have to say that the latter party remain ignorant by choice because there is no other reason to not "get it" by now.



That's funny, I don't care who you are... How long have you been playing the game?

I came here to post the definition of "insane" but I see Ender beat me to it.

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Playing the game? People don't realize how dangerous 0kaka is, that's all. Having a slimebag like Romney will give us a chance to regroup. He's not going to create gulags and mass slaughter, as I noted just above. Of course he's a disgusting professional politician with a vile track record. I loathe him. But he is not a commie/muzzie disciple of Ayers and MX revolutionary who wants to kill at least 25 million of us. I think many just don't realize how dangeros 0kaka and his revolutionary handlers really are.

I see that the red and blue kool aid drinkers REALLY want there to be a difference.

Those old illusions should be evaporating in the face of reality.

But the reds would rather insult and belittle those speaking the truth.

Reds love statism just like blues, only their statism is slightly different.

Reds care about what we do in our own homes, and so do blues.

Statists think everyone should live like them and those that won't should be forced by the government.

Reds don't like marijuana, so they support UN-Constitutional behavior by the government to keep me from smoking it. None of their GD business.

Blues don't like me disciplining my children because they don't discipline their children, so they would use the force of government to keep me from raising my kids the way I want.

Blues don't like me being able to defend myself because they're afraid of tools. So they want to use the force of government to keep me from owning and operating certain tools.

I would never dream of advocating for government to force reds to smoke MJ nor would I ever dream of using government to force blues to own tools.

Both groups of statists are as UN-American as any Taliban or Soviet Commissar but they've fooled themselves into believing they're right. And the MSM continuously supports these UN-American ideas.

Screw all of them.

Romney is no conservative or friend of the 2nd Amendment -- you're seriously deluded if you believe that and are blocking out facts you don't like, like his quote seen in my signature. Obama is no liberal. They're both completely co-opted by the TBTF and multinational corporations. Fascist would be the correct term to describe them both.

The trajectory of this country has not changed in 30 years+, regardless of which party has controlled the house, senate, or Presidency. Debt growth, government growth, liberty reduced, Constitution shredded, currency debased, and jobs shipped overseas in the name of increased profits for a very few.

I find it hard to believe that people can't see that. It's as obvious as can be.

But keep clinging to your illusions, because we all know that if you pretend something doesn't exist, it doesn't.

Mitt Romney, top contributors:

Mitt Romney (R)
1 Goldman Sachs $636,080
2 JPMorgan Chase & Co $502,874
3 Morgan Stanley $476,300
4 Bank of America $465,850
5 Credit Suisse Group $421,310

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I'm sure that those 5 firms really do represent the interests of Americans.

The R's have conclusively demonstrated that they don't understand the meaning of the word conservative as they laughed at Ron Paul in the last two election cycles.
War, currency debasement, statism, growth of government, and free trade is the US government's stock in trade regardless of who gets 'elected'.

Until people start letting go of pleasant illusions and wake up to reality, it's going to keep getting worse.

Enjoy yourselves as all of our standards of living go into the toilet due to these ridiculous policies.



Ron Paul spoke the truth, didn't pander, didn't promise free shit, and he was a threat to the status quo, which the government and both parties exist to protect.

Therefore he was criticized, ridiculed, and ignored by all the statists who only wish to control others by force of government and in keeping the flow of others' money coming into their own pockets.

I welcome the collapse of this sham and the comeuppance of all the statists.

Ask yourself one question. Would a McPain admin have been as bad as what we have now? I am not saying it would have been good, just that it would have been better.

Be Well said:

I think many just don't realize how dangeros 0kaka and his revolutionary handlers really are.

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You got that right!

To me the question is - when we collapse (not if) our leader will be the one who picks up the pieces. I know O will grab a few handpicked pieces and kick the rest to the curb. The people's desires, wants and needs will not matter. Romney is a basic unknown and therefore may give the people some kind of chance. Given the choice between an airplane crash or an automobile accident, I think I might choose the auto simply because I might eventually recover from that one.

Make a choice or stay home - a 3rd party/write in vote only satisfies yourself (if not true, why do we still have only a 2 party system) - low voter turnout will speak a much louder message....

The question is that when this crap hole gov collapses this country, how are we going to be able to deal with people that are starving and trying to settle between a dead possum and a dead rat for supper.

I don't care, because I'll be having meals planned through positive growth and not the lesser of two carcasses.

Be Well said:

Many people do not realize how extremely dangerous 0bomba is. Rombag and his peeps will not institute mass slaughter, gulags, etc. 0kaka and his handlers will. That's a huge difference.

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I agree. What I don't understand is if they really think there is no difference then at least placate us by helping us to fire Obama. What can it hurt if they are convinced they are the same? Writing someone in is a throw away vote and if the best hope we have is in which face we have to look at when we go down then let us at least have it not be Obamma.

Seems like a reasonable request. If they really are the same and there is no hope then why not throw us a bone and help us at least fire Obama.

Foothiller said:

I see that the red and blue kool aid drinkers REALLY want there to be a difference.

Those old illusions should be evaporating in the face of reality.

But the reds would rather insult and belittle those speaking the truth.

Reds love statism just like blues, only their statism is slightly different.

Reds care about what we do in our own homes, and so do blues.

Statists think everyone should live like them and those that won't should be forced by the government.

Reds don't like marijuana, so they support UN-Constitutional behavior by the government to keep me from smoking it. None of their GD business.

Blues don't like me disciplining my children because they don't discipline their children, so they would use the force of government to keep me from raising my kids the way I want.

Blues don't like me being able to defend myself because they're afraid of tools. So they want to use the force of government to keep me from owning and operating certain tools.

I would never dream of advocating for government to force reds to smoke MJ nor would I ever dream of using government to force blues to own tools.

Both groups of statists are as UN-American as any Taliban or Soviet Commissar but they've fooled themselves into believing they're right. And the MSM continuously supports these UN-American ideas.

Screw all of them.

Romney is no conservative or friend of the 2nd Amendment -- you're seriously deluded if you believe that and are blocking out facts you don't like, like his quote seen in my signature. Obama is no liberal. They're both completely co-opted by the TBTF and multinational corporations. Fascist would be the correct term to describe them both.

The trajectory of this country has not changed in 30 years+, regardless of which party has controlled the house, senate, or Presidency. Debt growth, government growth, liberty reduced, Constitution shredded, currency debased, and jobs shipped overseas in the name of increased profits for a very few.

I find it hard to believe that people can't see that. It's as obvious as can be.

But keep clinging to your illusions, because we all know that if you pretend something doesn't exist, it doesn't.

Mitt Romney, top contributors:



I'm sure that those 5 firms really do represent the interests of Americans.

The R's have conclusively demonstrated that they don't understand the meaning of the word conservative as they laughed at Ron Paul in the last two election cycles.
War, currency debasement, statism, growth of government, and free trade is the US government's stock in trade regardless of who gets 'elected'.

Until people start letting go of pleasant illusions and wake up to reality, it's going to keep getting worse.

Enjoy yourselves as all of our standards of living go into the toilet due to these ridiculous policies.



Ron Paul spoke the truth, didn't pander, didn't promise free shit, and he was a threat to the status quo, which the government and both parties exist to protect.

Therefore he was criticized, ridiculed, and ignored by all the statists who only wish to control others by force of government and in keeping the flow of others' money coming into their own pockets.

I welcome the collapse of this sham and the comeuppance of all the statists.

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Well said, Foothiller!

If there's really no difference, vote for Romney. What's the worst that could happen? If you truly don't believe in the system, stay home. You don't have to vote. As for me and my house, we will fire Obama.

And you people who think that by not making a choice you confound the system and are being somehow more honorable, well... it didn't work that way for the German citizens when Hitler appeared on the ballot. If the definition of insane is doing the same thing over and over, aren't you just repeating history?? Germany had its opportunity to get rid of Hitler and they didn't act!

You will not be exempt from whatever Obama has planned. I don't care how hard you prep, Obama's second term is going to really hurt everyone. Leaving the country will only be a stopgap measure at the most.

So if there's no difference, fire Obama! You have nothing to lose!

Foothiller said:

I see that the red and blue kool aid drinkers REALLY want there to be a difference.
Those old illusions should be evaporating in the face of reality.
But the reds would rather insult and belittle those speaking the truth.
Reds love statism just like blues, only their statism is slightly different.
Reds care about what we do in our own homes, and so do blues.
Statists think everyone should live like them and those that won't should be forced by the government.
Reds don't like marijuana, so they support UN-Constitutional behavior by the government to keep me from smoking it. None of their GD business.
Blues don't like me disciplining my children because they don't discipline their children, so they would use the force of government to keep me from raising my kids the way I want.
Blues don't like me being able to defend myself because they're afraid of tools. So they want to use the force of government to keep me from owning and operating certain tools.
I would never dream of advocating for government to force reds to smoke MJ nor would I ever dream of using government to force blues to own tools.
Both groups of statists are as UN-American as any Taliban or Soviet Commissar but they've fooled themselves into believing they're right. And the MSM continuously supports these UN-American ideas.
Screw all of them.
Romney is no conservative or friend of the 2nd Amendment -- you're seriously deluded if you believe that and are blocking out facts you don't like, like his quote seen in my signature. Obama is no liberal. They're both completely co-opted by the TBTF and multinational corporations. Fascist would be the correct term to describe them both.
The trajectory of this country has not changed in 30 years+, regardless of which party has controlled the house, senate, or Presidency. Debt growth, government growth, liberty reduced, Constitution shredded, currency debased, and jobs shipped overseas in the name of increased profits for a very few.
I find it hard to believe that people can't see that. It's as obvious as can be.
But keep clinging to your illusions, because we all know that if you pretend something doesn't exist, it doesn't.
Mitt Romney, top contributors:
I'm sure that those 5 firms really do represent the interests of Americans.
The R's have conclusively demonstrated that they don't understand the meaning of the word conservative as they laughed at Ron Paul in the last two election cycles.
War, currency debasement, statism, growth of government, and free trade is the US government's stock in trade regardless of who gets 'elected'.
Until people start letting go of pleasant illusions and wake up to reality, it's going to keep getting worse.
Enjoy yourselves as all of our standards of living go into the toilet due to these ridiculous policies.
Ron Paul spoke the truth, didn't pander, didn't promise free shit, and he was a threat to the status quo, which the government and both parties exist to protect.
Therefore he was criticized, ridiculed, and ignored by all the statists who only wish to control others by force of government and in keeping the flow of others' money coming into their own pockets.
I welcome the collapse of this sham and the comeuppance of all the statists.

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OK, so you are a libertarian. Why don't you register as one and vote for one. See how far that gets you.
Ron Paul is a libertarian too, but he had to run as a Republican if he wanted any chance to be elected.

People who only criticize both the Dem and Repub candidates and encourage people not to vote are usually depressed and sad Paulistas who are disappointed that the majority of people in this country didn't convert to their "religion" that borders on idol worship of one old man.

Be intellectually honest with yourself. Register as a libertarian and go vote for a libertarian.
By the way, it is against libertarian principles to discourage others from voting.

TerryK said:

OK, so you are a libertarian. Why don't you register as one and vote for one. See how far that gets you.
Ron Paul is a libertarian too, but he had to run as a Republican if he wanted any chance to be elected.

People who only criticize both the Dem and Repub candidates and encourage people not to vote are usually depressed and sad Paulistas who are disappointed that the majority of people in this country didn't convert to their "religion" that borders on idol worship of one old man.

Be intellectually honest with yourself. Register as a libertarian and go vote for a libertarian.
By the way, it is against libertarian principles to discourage others from voting.

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Foothiller is right on, Terry.

And voting has become a tool to make the masses feel they actually have a voice.

They don't.

Not voting en mass could be the most powerful movement anyone could join at this moment, instead of arguing about which unprincipled politician is the most unprincipled.

Anyone who has been following the incredible corruption of the RNC, this campaign, no longer has any doubts as to what is going on and which golden boy was handpicked for this election.

Romney will not beat Obama. TPTB want it that way.

And Obama can only do what he does because of Bush- and so it moves on down the assembly line.

So, yes, Foothiller is spot on- time for everyone to WAKE UP.

Lee2 said:

If there's really no difference, vote for Romney. What's the worst that could happen? If you truly don't believe in the system, stay home. You don't have to vote. As for me and my house, we will fire Obama.

And you people who think that by not making a choice you confound the system and are being somehow more honorable, well... it didn't work that way for the German citizens when Hitler appeared on the ballot. If the definition of insane is doing the same thing over and over, aren't you just repeating history?? Germany had its opportunity to get rid of Hitler and they didn't act!

You will not be exempt from whatever Obama has planned. I don't care how hard you prep, Obama's second term is going to really hurt everyone. Leaving the country will only be a stopgap measure at the most.

So if there's no difference, fire Obama! You have nothing to lose!

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Got it. mussolini in, hitler out.

TerryK said:

OK, so you are a libertarian. Why don't you register as one and vote for one. See how far that gets you.
Ron Paul is a libertarian too, but he had to run as a Republican if he wanted any chance to be elected.

People who only criticize both the Dem and Repub candidates and encourage people not to vote are usually depressed and sad Paulistas who are disappointed that the majority of people in this country didn't convert to their "religion" that borders on idol worship of one old man.

Be intellectually honest with yourself. Register as a libertarian and go vote for a libertarian.
By the way, it is against libertarian principles to discourage others from voting.

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If mittster was espousing the same Constitutional principals that RP was, I would vote for him in a heartbeat. Its the message, not the man. (assuming he would not flip-flop, of course)