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Did Obama’s Family own Christian Slaves?



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by John Galt
July 13, 2012 05:00 ET


Despite popular belief that modern Islamic society has “evolved” away from its practices of the past, stories persist about modern Muslim nations tolerating the importation of and of course associated abuse which occurs of non-Islamic peoples being used as slaves. In fact the United States State Department for years has decried the abuses of Islamic nations using women, children, and non-Muslims as slaves in their modern societies. Historically, this has been an approved practice for minority or infidel religions to be adopted as slaves within the Islamic faith as an article from the BBC outlined in 2009:
Islam’s approach to slavery added the idea that freedom was the natural state of affairs for human beings and in line with this it limited the opportunities to enslave people, commended the freeing of slaves and regulated the way slaves were treated:


  • Islam greatly limited those who could be enslaved and under what circumstances (although these restrictions were often evaded)
  • Islam treated slaves as human beings as well as property
  • Islam banned the mistreatment of slaves – indeed the tradition repeatedly stresses the importance of treating slaves with kindness and compassion
  • Islam allowed slaves to achieve their freedom and made freeing slaves a virtuous act
  • Islam barred Muslims from enslaving other Muslims
But the essential nature of slavery remained the same under Islam, as elsewhere. It involved serious breaches of human rights and however well they were treated, the slaves still had restricted freedom; and, when the law was not obeyed, their lives could be very unpleasant.
Thus this begs a question as the student of Islam, Barack Hussein Obama returned to Muslim Indonesia in October of 1967:

Did the Obama family, his stepfather or mother, engage in the practice of owning Christian slaves while living in Jakarta, Indonesia?

The prompting for this question occurs due to centuries of tradition in the Islamic nations of owning non-Muslim slaves to serve the believers as the infidels had no rights unless they agreed to accept Allah and assimilate within the Islamic faith. As late as 2009, articles about the subject circulated from groups like Human Rights Watch (via SOSChildren.org.uk):

Child slavery in Indonesia


<quote from the article linked above>
Many Indonesians have live-in maids who cook and clean, but a new report by Human Rights Watch said hundreds of thousands of them are underage girls, some as young as 11.

“There’s a wilful blindness on behalf of some government officials who choose to ignore or deny that child domestic workers are exploited and abused,” said Bede Sheppard of Human Rights Watch.

The 78 child maids interviewed in the report told of 18-hour workdays, sexual abuse by their employers, and conditions tantamount to slavery as they were forced to work for free.

Fifteen-year-old Ratu was one of the child maids researchers spoke to. She said: “Every day my employer was angry and she would kick me and pinch me. Almost every day. When I mopped the floor, I did not use a mop for mopping, just my hands and a rag, and then my employer kicked me to go deeper under the bed. She would pinch me on my shoulders.”
This shocking story begs for an accounting by the President and his family. If indeed his family adopted the traditional Islamic lifestyle while residing in Indonesia, how many slaves did they own? There are scant records indicating that his family did not adopt the lifestyle and own a slave or two thus the question becomes more pertinent as this administration paints a face of upholding human rights internationally but quite possibly deceiving the American public and the world about the conditions of children within his family’s own household. The accounting for the problem is solely that of the White House as the practice of human slavery is indeed a valid use of hapless children as the Quran provides several Suras to justify the activity:
Slavery


  • 4:36 “(Show) kindness unto parents, and unto near kindred, and orphans, and the needy, and unto the neighbour who is of kin (unto you) and the neighbour who is not of kin, and the fellow-traveller and the wayfarer and (the slaves) whom your right hands possess.”
  • 4:92 “It is not for a believer to kill a believer unless (it be) by mistake. He who hath killed a believer by mistake must set free a believing slave, and pay the blood- money to the family of the slain, unless they remit it as a charity. If he (the victim) be of a people hostile unto you, and he is a believer, then (the penance is) to set free a believing slave.”
  • 23:5-6 “And who guard their modesty – Save from their wives or the (slaves) that their right hands possess.”
  • 24:31 “And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and be modest, and to display of their adornment only that which is apparent, and to draw their veils over their bosoms, and not to reveal their adornment save to their own husbands or fathers or husbands’ fathers, or their sons or their husbands’ sons, or their brothers or their brothers’ sons or sisters’ sons, or their women, or their slaves.”
  • 24:58 “O ye who believe! Let your slaves, and those of you who have not come to puberty, ask leave of you at three times (before they come into your presence).”
  • 33:25-26 “Allah repulsed the disbelievers in their wrath; they gained no good. Allah averted their attack from the believers. Allah is ever Strong, Mighty. And He brought those of the People of the Scripture who supported them down from their strongholds, and cast panic into their hearts. Some ye slew, and ye made captive some.
  • 33:50 “O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war.”
  • 33:55 “It is no sin for them (thy wives) to converse freely) with their fathers, or their sons, or their brothers, or their brothers’ sons, or the sons of their sisters or of their own women, or their slaves.”
(From The Skeptics Annotated Quran)

Indeed his education in the Madras of Jakarta would support Obama’s learning and accepting the quotes above as part of the culture and belief system of the nation he inhabited as a child, yet as of the publication of this article, President Obama has yet to refute nor renounce the ownership of slaves, especially Christian children, by Islamic masters. The silence about the tragedy of Christian children in Darfur being captured and sold into sexual servitude for Muslim masters illustrates his insensitivity to the issue.

I think it is quite polite of his opponent, Mitt Romney to not bring this issue up as his concerns should be about justifying his prior concerns on outsourcing with Bain Capital, even if he was only an investor and not a corporate officer at that moment. In my opinion, owning Christian slaves is far more egregious than possibly participating in the outsourcing of several hundred jobs, but the silence of the Obama administration on the question above seems to indicate that slavery is an acceptable lifestyle choice for the “Religion of Peace” of which he was educated under in the late 1960′s.

h/t MSNBC,NBC,CBS,ABC,CNN,HUFFPO,SLATE,DAILYBEAST,NEWY ORKTIMES, etc. for providing a Journalistic model for asking these important questions before the election…
 

Be Well

may all be well
There is the mysterious "step sister" Lia, who died suddenly the day before (IIRC) she was to meet with reporters to tell her story of knowing 0bastard as a child. (I may have a detail not quite right...). Her position in the family is unclear, from what I have read; supposedly an adopted sister but sounded more like a child servant.
 

mt4design

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I think it is far more likely that Obama's family in Kenya owned (and sold) slaves.

Mike
 
There is the mysterious "step sister" Lia, who died suddenly the day before (IIRC) she was to meet with reporters to tell her story of knowing 0bastard as a child. (I may have a detail not quite right...). Her position in the family is unclear, from what I have read; supposedly an adopted sister but sounded more like a child servant.

I recall something about that, too, Be Well. I also seem to remember she was puzzled, but happy, that the permanent limp he had from falling out of a mango tree when he was small was gone.
 

Y2kO

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http://www.infowarsshop.com/Dreams-From-My-Real-Father_p_658.html
Dreams from my REAL father.............
What are the true origins of Obama's life and politics?

At age 18, Barack Obama admittedly arrived at Occidental College a committed revolutionary Marxist. What was the source of Obama's foundation in Marxism? Throughout his 2008 Presidential campaign and term in office, questions have been raised regarding Barack Obama's family background, economic philosophy, and fundamental political ideology. Dreams from My Real Father is the alternative Barack Obama "autobiography," offering a divergent theory of what may have shaped our 44th President's life and politics.

In Dreams from My Real Father, Barack Obama is portrayed by a voiceover actor who chronicles Barack Obama's life journey in socialism, from birth through his election to the Presidency. The film begins by presenting the case that Barack Obama's real father was Frank Marshall Davis, a Communist Party USA propagandist who likely shaped Obama's world view during his formative years. Barack Obama sold himself to America as the multi-cultural ideal, a man who stood above politics. Was the goat herding Kenyan father only a fairy tale to obscure a Marxist agenda, irreconcilable with American values?

This fascinating narrative is based in part on 2 years of research, interviews, newly unearthed footage and photos, and the writings of Davis and Obama himself. Dreams from My Real Father weaves together the proven facts with reasoned logic and speculation in an attempt to fill-in the obvious gaps in Obama's history. Is this the story Barack Obama should have told, revealing his true agenda for "fundamentally transforming America?" Director Joel Gilbert concludes, "The 'Birthers' have been on a fool's errand. To understand Obama's plans for America, the question is not 'Where's the Birth Certificate?,' the question is 'Who is the real father?'"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6jrrnkKmUzo
 
Traditionally, Muslims have always practiced slavery. There is no reason to believe that 0bama's family refrained from this common practice.

Christian were given three choices when Muslims gain power over them:
1. convert to Islam
2. enter into a subservient position (slavery) and be allowed to keep some vestige of their religion
3. die

Islam hasn't changed much over the last few hundred years. Still as "peaceful" as ever.
 

Be Well

may all be well
I think it is far more likely that Obama's family in Kenya owned (and sold) slaves.

Mike

The purported parentage of 0bama is a myth. This will no doubt be coming out more and more. The real BHO son of the Kenyan is currently named Roman 0bama and lives in a West African country whose name I always forget, lives a life of luxury; they have paid him well - given him an important job in the oil industry - to keep silent. He looks just like his father. I can post info later if anyone's interested.
 

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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The purported parentage of 0bama is a myth. This will no doubt be coming out more and more. The real BHO son of the Kenyan is currently named Roman 0bama and lives in a West African country whose name I always forget, lives a life of luxury; they have paid him well - given him an important job in the oil industry - to keep silent. He looks just like his father. I can post info later if anyone's interested.

Yes, please do.
 

momof23goats

Deceased
There is the mysterious "step sister" Lia, who died suddenly the day before (IIRC) she was to meet with reporters to tell her story of knowing 0bastard as a child. (I may have a detail not quite right...). Her position in the family is unclear, from what I have read; supposedly an adopted sister but sounded more like a child servant.

she probably was a child servant.
 

Be Well

may all be well
A few photos, will see what info on Roman Obama I can find later. First, 0bastard and MX:

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0bastard's mother (screenshot from a TV show she acted in)

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Ah, here we go:

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Roman Obama Administration Official for the Consul of Equatorial Guinea, in Accra, Ghana.

Another matchup. this one of Roman 0bama and 0bama Sr:

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Compare photos of 0bastard and MX:

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Be Well

may all be well
There are some hotshot researchers on Freep, I just copy/n/paste. I will add that mucho stuff has been sent to Arpaio, and all their research has not been made public yet. I've seen a lot of it and I can guarantee that the Kenyan and Stanley Ann are not 0bastard's parents, but MX and the mystery lady (not a US citizen btw) are.
 

Y2kO

Inactive
The American people don't have a clue who this guy is or who is behind him. They just put him in the office to show what they can do and how they can and do control the press.
 

straightstreet

Life is better in flip flops
http://www.infowarsshop.com/Dreams-From-My-Real-Father_p_658.html
Dreams from my REAL father.............
What are the true origins of Obama's life and politics?

At age 18, Barack Obama admittedly arrived at Occidental College a committed revolutionary Marxist. What was the source of Obama's foundation in Marxism? Throughout his 2008 Presidential campaign and term in office, questions have been raised regarding Barack Obama's family background, economic philosophy, and fundamental political ideology. Dreams from My Real Father is the alternative Barack Obama "autobiography," offering a divergent theory of what may have shaped our 44th President's life and politics.

In Dreams from My Real Father, Barack Obama is portrayed by a voiceover actor who chronicles Barack Obama's life journey in socialism, from birth through his election to the Presidency. The film begins by presenting the case that Barack Obama's real father was Frank Marshall Davis, a Communist Party USA propagandist who likely shaped Obama's world view during his formative years. Barack Obama sold himself to America as the multi-cultural ideal, a man who stood above politics. Was the goat herding Kenyan father only a fairy tale to obscure a Marxist agenda, irreconcilable with American values?

This fascinating narrative is based in part on 2 years of research, interviews, newly unearthed footage and photos, and the writings of Davis and Obama himself. Dreams from My Real Father weaves together the proven facts with reasoned logic and speculation in an attempt to fill-in the obvious gaps in Obama's history. Is this the story Barack Obama should have told, revealing his true agenda for "fundamentally transforming America?" Director Joel Gilbert concludes, "The 'Birthers' have been on a fool's errand. To understand Obama's plans for America, the question is not 'Where's the Birth Certificate?,' the question is 'Who is the real father?'"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6jrrnkKmUzo

I saw the interview above a couple weeks ago and I kept thinking...nope, obama does NOT look like Frank Marshall Davis to me but I do understand where the guy is coming from even though I disagree about him being his daddy. I do think Davis was a part of both obama and his mamas life but I think it was sexual in nature with each of them (as sick as I think that is)....On the other hand, I did see a youtube video a year or two ago where MX and obama photos would morph into each other and they looked so much alike it was eerie....

Be Well,
Until today I had never heard of Roman Obama! What a twisted tale obamas life is!
 

Be Well

may all be well
I saw the interview above a couple weeks ago and I kept thinking...nope, obama does NOT look like Frank Marshall Davis to me but I do understand where the guy is coming from even though I disagree about him being his daddy. I do think Davis was a part of both obama and his mamas life but I think it was sexual in nature with each of them (as sick as I think that is)....On the other hand, I did see a youtube video a year or two ago where MX and obama photos would morph into each other and they looked so much alike it was eerie....

Be Well,
Until today I had never heard of Roman Obama! What a twisted tale obamas life is!

A group of people have been doing intense research on 0bastard and his background for more than 3 years, and they post some of their findings on Freep. I've been obsessively reading their threads and trying to worm stuff out of them when I can. Roman Obama is the son of the Kenyan Barack Hussein Obama, and Roman's birth name was BHO2nd. His mother and 0bama met in HI, and she may have been Filipina. The boy was taken to Kenya and raised there by 0bama Sr and another wife, named Ruth, who is the mother of Mark (Njesando or something) who claims to be the half brother of 0bastard. Roman was raised in Kenya but changed his name to Roman once 0bastard needed to use that name publicaly. Roman wasn't happy about it and was more or less shunted off to Equitorial Guinea and Ghana and given a position with good salary.

0bastard is the son of MX and an Arab woman and was most likely (the researchers probably know) born in North Africa or the Middle East. He was brought to the US when he was a baby, under one year old. Stanley Ann Dunham took care of him as a hired nanny for years and then when he was 3 or 4 got legal custody of him by the fake divorce. His birth certificate that was recently forged uses the date of birth from a baby who died the day after she was born in Hawaii. That is a method described in some book of Bill Ayers, how to create a fake ID.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
There are some hotshot researchers on Freep, I just copy/n/paste. I will add that mucho stuff has been sent to Arpaio, and all their research has not been made public yet. I've seen a lot of it and I can guarantee that the Kenyan and Stanley Ann are not 0bastard's parents, but MX and the mystery lady (not a US citizen btw) are.

Jackie Kennedy Onasis by any chance??? After all not only did she like greek delights BUT rumor has it she also like herself some dark chocolate.
 
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Be Well

may all be well
No, the mother is an Arabic woman with a lot of connections, also connections here in the US. She was a professional actress. Her name and whereabouts are known. I can say that her first name is Valerie. When young she was very beautiful. There's a youtube somewhere, I posted it here months ago, showing a couple of photos of her. I'll see if I can find it maybe tomorrow.
 

Be Well

may all be well
Hey hey hey - I found it! Was searching wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A3bYdwSsr8


Mal and Val - not Ann and the Old Man

Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982.

ETA - dabnabbit! I can't get the video to come here, only seems to link. I don't know why. Click the clink and see 0bastard's real parents. Maybe Sheriff Joe will have something to say about this, I hope.
 

straightstreet

Life is better in flip flops
A group of people have been doing intense research on 0bastard and his background for more than 3 years, and they post some of their findings on Freep. I've been obsessively reading their threads and trying to worm stuff out of them when I can. Roman Obama is the son of the Kenyan Barack Hussein Obama, and Roman's birth name was BHO2nd. His mother and 0bama met in HI, and she may have been Filipina. The boy was taken to Kenya and raised there by 0bama Sr and another wife, named Ruth, who is the mother of Mark (Njesando or something) who claims to be the half brother of 0bastard. Roman was raised in Kenya but changed his name to Roman once 0bastard needed to use that name publicaly. Roman wasn't happy about it and was more or less shunted off to Equitorial Guinea and Ghana and given a position with good salary.

0bastard is the son of MX and an Arab woman and was most likely (the researchers probably know) born in North Africa or the Middle East. He was brought to the US when he was a baby, under one year old. Stanley Ann Dunham took care of him as a hired nanny for years and then when he was 3 or 4 got legal custody of him by the fake divorce. His birth certificate that was recently forged uses the date of birth from a baby who died the day after she was born in Hawaii. That is a method described in some book of Bill Ayers, how to create a fake ID.
hmmm...I've only read one link at Freep (because that's all I could find with an internet search) BUT with that one link....which was quite long BTW...BHO could tie back into Valerie and MX and what someone posted linking a "Faud's daughter with Valerie" and I thought could that actually be mis-spelled? could the poster mean Fahd? as in King Fahd of Saudi Arabia? I don't know...just trying to follow a complicated trail...or tale...
 

Be Well

may all be well
I remember that Valerie's name is Arabic but can't remember it, her family connections are upper echelon. I can dig up some very good links and ways to search on Freep if you want. I admit I have read obsessively this stuff since summer 2008, whatever I could find. Valerie and MX had 0bastard overseas, he was brought here and raised by someone else in HI until he was approximately three, then Stanley became the official caretaker. She may have helped care for him when he was a baby. MX didn't want the world to know he had an illegitimate kid and neither did Valerie want that connection known.

The whole "Kenyan" connection is entirely made up. Since 0bastard has used fake names and IDs since he was brought to the US, and was born overseas to a foreigner mother who was not married to the father, it is most certain he is not a US citizen at all. Even if he got naturalized at some point it was no doubt using a bogus name. So he's an illegal alien as well as 100% fraudster.
 

Shacknasty Shagrat

Has No Life - Lives on TB
If Mr. Obamas family owned slaves, they would probably been Christian and black. The male slaves were,and, are often castrated.
The Liberals, and other National Socialists may have finally achieved their goal... to have a black President whose family owned castrated black Christian slaves. They must laugh every day at this irony .and at the gullibility of many of their ignorant supporters.
SS
 

straightstreet

Life is better in flip flops
I remember that Valerie's name is Arabic but can't remember it, her family connections are upper echelon. I can dig up some very good links and ways to search on Freep if you want.
yes, thank you for the links/search help on Freep :) I think the implications of all this is astounding and the rabbit hole much deeper than most have thought...I wonder just HOW much Arapio and his team knows and what they will release?
 

Be Well

may all be well
yes, thank you for the links/search help on Freep :) I think the implications of all this is astounding and the rabbit hole much deeper than most have thought...I wonder just HOW much Arapio and his team knows and what they will release?

Here are three recent threads with many informative comments (and disinfo, but the obots seem to have lost a little steam lately):


Obama's 'missing year' at Columbia found?

WND ^ | July 8, 2012 | Jerome Corsi

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2904263/posts


Immigration officers doubted Obama birth story (Corsi tip-off to 7/17 Apaio Posse findings?)

WND ^ | July 10, 2012 | Jerome R. Corsi

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2905135/posts


What David Maraniss Left Out of The Story
American Thinker ^ | July 11, 2012 | Don Wilkie

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2905229/posts

There are several posters whose comments are especially knowledge - if you click their names, go to profile page and click 'In forum" you will find all their comments, and then can check out previous threads they were active on. That's what I do to find good threads, if I have not been "pinged" to a thread. I would pick Fred Nerks, David and Brown Deer to check on. One name in particular who has posted a lot lately on at least one of these threads has initials "R.C." and IMHO posts a lot of disinfo...

Mods - please excuse "naked links" because what I'm really linking to is the discussion on the threads, not so much the articles themselves. If you want I can post the whole articles later, but it should be new threads since the topics are not the same as the OP.
 

Be Well

may all be well
I can't tell you how many gazillions of hours I"ve read on those research threads. The names I mentioned are very good to use to find amazing info. If you need help with finding their comments let me know. There is one long thread that really helped open my eyes to the fact that Stanley Ann ain't the Ma, I"d already figured that the Kenyan dude wasn't the Pa. It is a very wide ranging discussion, and towards the latter part or at different places in the thread, info about Seattle is revealed - that Stanley Ann was not in Seattle going to the U of WA as claimed, but someone named "Anna 0bama" was in Seattle. Not Stanely.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2702976/posts

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