RACE What is it like to teach black students?

ShyGirl

Veteran Member
In light of what this board has been going through, I thought this was a really interesting read. I had no idea that blacks were so stuck in their own culture. It's no wonder we can't communicate or reason with them. They are so blinded by their hatred of whites it's scary. Please also go to the link and read the comments.

http://martynemko.blogspot.ca/2009/06/white-teacher-speaks-out-what-is-it.html

What is it Like to Teach Black Students?

by Christopher Jackson

Until recently I taught at a predominantly
black high school in a southeastern
state.

The mainstream press gives a hint of
what conditions are like in black schools,
but only a hint. Expressions that journalists
use like “chaotic” or “poor learning
environment” or “lack of discipline” do
not capture what really happens. There
is nothing like the day-to-day experience
of teaching Black children and that is
what I will try to convey.

One of the most immediately striking
things about my students was that so many of them were
were loud. They had little conception of
ordinary decorum. It was not unusual
for five students to be screaming at
me at once.

It did no good to try to quiet them and
white women were particularly inept at
trying. I sat in on one woman’s class as
she begged the children to pipe down.
They just yelled louder so their voices
would carry over hers.

So many of them seemed to have no conception of waiting for
an appropriate time to say something.
They would get ideas in their heads and
simply had to shout them out. I might be
leading a discussion on government and
suddenly be interrupted: “We gotta get
more Democrats! Clinton, she good!”
The student may seem content with that
outburst but two minutes later, he would
suddenly start yelling again: “Clinton
good!”

It was not uncommon for 15
boys to swagger into a classroom,
bouncing their shoulders and jiving back.
They were yelling back and forth, rapping 15 different sets of
words in the same harsh, rasping dialect.
The words were almost invariably
a childish form of boasting: “Who got
dem shine rim, who got dem shine shoe,
who got dem shine grill (gold and silver
dental caps)?” The amateur rapper often
ends with a claim—in the crudest
terms imaginable—that all womankind
is sexually devoted to him. For whatever
reason, many of my students would often groan
instead of saying a particular word, as in,
“She suck dat aaahhhh (think of a long
grinding groan), she f**k dat aaaahhhh,
she lick dat aaaahhh.”

So many black girls dance in the hall, in the classroom,
on the chairs, next to the chairs, under
the chairs, everywhere. Once I had to take a
call on my cell phone and stepped
outside of class. I was away about two
minutes but when I got back,
girls had lined up at the front of the
classroom and were convulsing to the
delight of the boys.

Blacks, overall, are the most directly critical
people I have ever met: “Dat shirt stupid.
Yo’ kid a bastard. Yo’ lips big.” Unlike
whites, who tread gingerly around the
subject of race, Blacks can be brutally to
the point. Once, I needed to send a student
to the office to deliver a message. I
asked for volunteers, and suddenly you
would think my classroom was a bastion
of civic engagement. Thirty hands
shot into the air. I picked a light-skinned
boy to deliver the message. One
very dark student was indignant: “You
pick da half-breed.” And immediately
other Blacks take up the cry, and half
a dozen are screaming, “He
half-breed.”

For decades, the country has been
lamenting the poor academic performance
of Blacks and there is much to
lament. There is no question
that many Blacks come to school with a
serious handicap that is not their fault.
At home they have learned a dialect that
is almost a different language. They
not only mispronounce words; their
grammar is so often wrong. When a Black
wants to ask, “Where is the bathroom?”
he may actually say “Whar da badroom
be?” Grammatically, this is the equivalent
of “Where the bathroom is?” And
this is the way they speak in high school.
Students write the way they speak, so
this is the language that shows up in
written assignments.

It is true that some whites face a
similar handicap. They speak with
what I would call a “country” accent
that is hard to reproduce but results in
sentences such as “I’m gonna gemme
a Coke.” Some of these country whites
had to learn correct pronunciation and
usage. The difference is that most whites
overcome this handicap and learn to
speak correctly; many Blacks do not.

Most of the Blacks I taught simply
had no interest in academic subjects. I
taught history, and students would often
say they didn’t want to do an assignment
or they didn’t like history because it was
all about white people. Of course, this
was “diversity” history, in which every
cowboy’s Black cook got a special page
on how he contributed to winning the
West, but Black children still found it
inadequate. So I would throw up my
hands and assign them a project on a
real, historical black person. My favorite
was Marcus Garvey. They had never
heard of him, and I would tell them to
research him but most of them never did. They
didn’t care and they didn’t want to do
any work.

Anyone who teaches Blacks soon
learns that they have a completely different
view of government from whites.
Once I decided to have students write about one thing
the government should do to improve
America. I gave this question to three
classes totaling about 100 students,
approximately 80 of whom were Black.
My white students came back with
generally conservative ideas. “We
need to cut off people who don’t work,”
was the most common suggestion.
Nearly every Black gave a variation on
the theme of “We need more government
services.”

My students had only the vaguest
notion of who pays for government
services. For them, it was like a magical
piggy bank that never goes empty. One
Black girl was exhorting the class on
the need for more social services and I
kept trying to explain that people, real
live people, are taxed for the money to
pay for those services. “Yeah, it come
from whites,” she finally said. “They
stingy anyway.”

“Many Black people make over
$50,000 dollars a year and you would
also be taking away from your own
people,” I said.

She had an answer to that: “Dey
half breed.” The class agreed. I let the
subject drop.

Many Black girls are perfectly happy
to be welfare queens. On career day, one
girl explained to the class that she was
going to have lots of children and get fat
checks from the government. No one in
the class seemed to have any objection
to this career choice.

Surprising attitudes can come out in
class discussion. We were talking about
the crimes committed in the aftermath of
Hurricane Katrina and I brought up the
rape of a young girl in the bathroom of
the Superdome. A majority of my students
believed this was a horrible crime
but a few took it lightly. One Black boy
spoke up without raising his hand: “Dat
no big deal. They thought they is gonna
die so they figured they have some fun.
Dey jus’ wanna have a fun time; you
know what I’m sayin’?” A few Black
heads nodded in agreement.

My department head once asked all
the teachers to get a response from all
students to the following question: “Do
you think it is okay to break the law if it
will benefit you greatly?” By then, I had
been teaching for a while and was not
surprised by answers that left a young,
liberal, white woman colleague aghast.
“Yeah” was the favorite answer. As one
student explained, “Get dat green.”

How the world looks to Blacks
One point on which most Blacks agree
is that everything is “racis’.” This is
one message of liberalism they have
absorbed completely. Did you do your
homework? “Na, homework racis’.”
Why did you get an F on the test? “Test
racis’.”

I was trying to teach a unit on British
philosophers and the first thing the students
appeared to care about Bentham, Hobbes,
and Locke was “Dey all white! Where da
black philosophers’?” I tried to explain
there were no Blacks in eighteenth century
Britain. You can probably guess
what they said to that: “Dat racis’!”
One student accused me of deliberately
failing him on a test because I
didn’t like Black people.

“Do you think I really hate Black
people?”
“Yeah.”
“Have I done anything to make you
feel this way? How do you know?”
“You just do.”
“Why do you say that?”

He just smirked, looked out the window,
and sucked air through his teeth.
Perhaps this was a regional thing, but
the Blacks often sucked air through their
teeth as a wordless expression of disdain
or hostility.

My students were sometimes unable
to see the world except through the lens
of their own blackness. I had a class
that was host to a German exchange
student. One day he put on a Power Point
presentation with famous German landmarks
as well as his school and family.

From time to time during the presentation,
Blacks would scream, “Where da
Black folk?!” The exasperated German
tried to explain that there
were no black people where he lived in
Germany. The students did not believe
him. I told them Germany is in Europe,
where white people are from, and Africa
is where Black people are from. They
insisted that the German student was
racist and deliberately refused to associate
with Blacks.

Blacks are keenly interested in
their own racial characteristics. I have
learned, for example, that some blacks
have “good hair.” Good hair is black
parlance for black-white hybrid hair.
Apparently, it is less kinky, easier to
style, and considered more attractive.
Blacks are also proud of light skin.
Imagine two black students shouting
insults across the room. One is dark
and slim, the other light and obese. The
dark one begins the exchange: “You
fat, Ridario!” Ridario smiles, doesn’t deign to look
at his detractor, shakes his head like a
wobbling top, and says, “You wish you
light skinned.” They could go on like this, repeating
the same insults over and over.

My Black students had nothing but
contempt for Hispanic immigrants. They
would vent their feelings so crudely
that our department strongly advised us
never to talk about immigration in class
in case the principal or some outsider
might overhear.

Whites were “racis’,” of course, but
they thought of us at least as Americans.
Not the Mexicans. Blacks have a certain,
not necessarily hostile understanding of
white people. They know how whites
act, and it is clear they believe whites
are smart and are good at organizing
things. At the same time, they probably
suspect whites are just putting on an
act when they talk about equality, as if
it is all a sham that makes it easier for
whites to control Blacks. Blacks want a
bigger piece of the American pie. I’m
convinced that if it were up to them
they would give whites a considerably
smaller piece than whites get now, but
they would give us something. They
wouldn’t give Mexicans anything.

What about Black boys and white
girls? No one is supposed to
notice this or talk about it but
it is glaringly obvious: Black
boys are obsessed with white
girls. I’ve witnessed the following
drama countless times. A Black
boy saunters up to a white
girl. The cocky black dances
around her, not really in a menacing
way. It’s more a shuffle
than a threat. As he bobs and
shuffles he asks, “When you
gonna go wit’ me?”

There are two kinds of reply.
The more confident white
girl gets annoyed, looks away
from the Black and shouts, “I don’t wanna
go out with you!” The more demure
girl will look at her feet and mumble
a polite excuse but ultimately say no.

There is only one response from the
Black boy: “You racis’.” Many girls—all
too many—actually feel guilty because
they do not want to date Blacks. Most
white girls at my school stayed away
from Blacks, but a few, particularly the
ones who were addicted to drugs, fell
in with them.

There is something else that is striking
about Blacks. So many of them seem to have
no sense of romance, of falling in love.
What brings men and women together is
sex, pure and simple, and there is a crude
openness about this. There are many degenerate
whites, of course, but some of
my white students were capable of real
devotion and tenderness, emotions that
seemed absent from most Blacks—especially
the boys.

Black schools are violent and the
few whites who are too poor to escape
are caught in the storm. The violence is
astonishing, not so much that it happens,
but the atmosphere in which it happens.
Blacks can be smiling, seemingly perfectly
content with what they are doing,
having a good time, and then, suddenly
start fighting. It’s uncanny. Not long
ago, I was walking through the halls
and a group of Black boys were walking
in front of me. All of a sudden they
started fighting with another group in
the hallway.

Blacks are extraordinarily quick to
take offense. Once I accidentally scuffed
a Black boy’s white sneaker with my
shoe. He immediately rubbed his body
up against mine and threatened to attack
me. I stepped outside the class and had
a security guard escort the student to
the office. It was unusual for students
to threaten teachers physically this way,
but among themselves, they were quick
to fight for similar reasons.

The real victims are the unfortunate
whites caught in this. They are always
in danger and their educations suffer.
White weaklings are particularly susceptible,
but mostly to petty violence. They
may be slapped or get a couple of kicks
when they are trying to open a bottom
locker. Typically, Blacks save the hard,
serious violence for each other.

There was a lot of promiscuous sex
among my students and this led to
violence. Black girls were constantly
fighting over Black boys. It was not uncommon
to see two girls literally ripping
each other’s hair out with a police officer
in the middle trying to break up the
fight. The Black boy they were fighting
over would be standing by with a smile,
enjoying the show he had created. For
reasons I cannot explain, boys seldom
fought over girls.

Pregnancy was common among the
Blacks, though many Black girls were
so fat I could not tell the difference. I
don’t know how many girls got abortions,
but when they had the baby they
usually stayed in school and had their
own parents look after the child. The
school did not offer daycare.

Aside from the police officers constantly on campus, security guards are everywhere in
Black schools—we had one on every
hall. They also sat in on unruly classes
and escorted students to the office. They
were unarmed but worked closely with
the three city police officers who were
constantly on duty.

There was a lot of drug dealing at
my school. This was a way to
make a fair amount of money but it
also gave boys power over girls who
wanted drugs. An addicted girl—Black
or white—became the plaything of anyone
who could get her drugs.

One of my students was a notorious
drug dealer. Everyone knew it. He was
19 years old and in eleventh grade. Once
he got a score of three out of 100 on a
test. He had been locked up four times
since he was 13.

One day, I asked him, “Why do you
come to school?”

He wouldn’t answer. He just looked
out the window, smiled, and sucked air
through his teeth. His friend Yidarius
ventured an explanation: “He get dat
green and get dem females.”

“What is the green?” I asked. “Money
or dope?” “Both,” said Yidarius with a smile.

A very fat student interrupted from
across the room: “We get dat lunch,” Mr.
Jackson. “We gotta get dat lunch and
brickfuss.” He means the free breakfast
and lunch poor students get every day.
“Nigga, we know’d you be lovin’
brickfuss!” shouts another student.

Some readers may believe that I
have drawn a cruel caricature of Black
students. After all, according to official
figures some 85 percent of them graduate.
It would be instructive to know how
many of those scraped by with barely a
C- record. They go from grade to grade
and they finally get their diplomas
because there is so much pressure on
teachers to push them through. It saves
money to move them along, the school
looks good and the teachers look good.

Many of these children should have been
failed but the system would crack under
their weight if they were all held back.

How did my experiences make me
feel about Blacks? Ultimately, I lost
sympathy for them. In so many ways
they seem to make their own beds.
There they were in an integrationist’s
fantasy—in the same classroom with
white students, eating the same lunch,
using the same bathrooms, listening to
the same teachers—and yet the Blacks
fail while the whites pass.

One tragic outcome among whites
who have been teaching for too long
is that it can engender something close
to hatred. One teacher I knew gave up
fast food—not for health reasons but
because where he lived, most fast-food
workers were black. He had enough of
Blacks on the job. This was an extreme
example, but years of frustration can
take their toll. Many of my white colleagues
with any experience were well
on their way to that state of mind.

There is an unutterable secret among
teachers: Almost all realize that Blacks
do not respond to traditional white
instruction. Does that put the lie to environmentalism?
Not at all. It is what
brings about endless, pointless innovation
that is supposed to bring Blacks up
to the white level. The solution is more diversity, or put
more generally, the solution is "change."
Change is an almost holy word in education,
and you can fail a million times as
long as you keep changing. That is why
liberals keep revamping the curriculum
and the way it is taught.

For example, teachers are told that Blacks need hands-on
instruction and more group work. Teachers are told that Blacks are more
vocal and do not learn through reading and lectures. The implication is that they
have certain traits that lend themselves to a different kind of teaching.

Whites have learned a certain way for
centuries but it just doesn’t work with
Blacks. Of course, this implies racial
differences but if pressed, most liberal
teachers would say different racial
learning styles come from some indefinable
cultural characteristic unique to
Blacks. Therefore, schools must change,
America must change. But into what?
How do you turn quantum physics into
hands-on instruction or group work? No
one knows, but we must keep changing
until we find something that works.

Public school has certainly changed
since anyone reading this was a student.
I have a friend who teaches elementary
school and she tells me that every week
the students get a new diversity lesson,
shipped in fresh from some bureaucrat’s
office in Washington or the state
capital. She showed me the materials
for one week: a large poster,
about the size of a forty-two inch
flat-screen television. It shows
a diverse group—I mean
diverse: handicapped, Muslim,
Jewish, effeminate, poor, rich,
brown, slightly brown, yellow,
etc.—sitting at a table, smiling
gaily, accomplishing some undefined
task. The poster comes with
a sheet of questions the teacher is
supposed to ask. One might be: “These
kids sure look different, but they look
happy. Can you tell me which one in
the picture is an American?”

Some eight-year-old, mired in ignorance,
will point to a white child like
himself. “That one.”

The teacher reads from the answer,
conveniently printed along with the
question. “No, Billy, all these children
are Americans. They are just as American
as you.”

This is what happens at predominately white,
middle-class, elementary schools everywhere.
Elementary school teachers love All
of the Colors of the Race, by award-winning
children’s poet Arnold Adoff.

These are some of the lines they read
to the children: “Mama is chocolate …
Daddy is vanilla … Me (sic) is better …
It is a new color. It is a new flavor. For
love. Sometimes blackness seems too
black for me, and whiteness is too sickly
pale; and I wish everyone were golden.
Remember: long ago before people
moved and migrated, and mixed and
matched … there was one people: one
color, one race. The colors are flowing
from what was before me to what will
be after. All the colors.”

Teaching as a career
It may come as a surprise after what
I have written, but my experiences have
given me a deep appreciation for teaching
as a career. It offers a stable, middle-class
life but comes with the capacity
to make real differences in the lives of
children. In our modern, atomized world,
children often have very little communication
with adults—especially, or even,
with their parents—so there is potential
for a real transaction between pupil and
teacher, disciple and master.

A rewarding relationship can grow
up between an interested
student and his teacher. I have stayed in
my classroom with a group of students
discussing ideas and playing chess until
the janitor kicked us out. I was the
old gentleman, imparting my history,
culture, personal loves and triumphs,
defeats and failures to young kinsman.
Sometimes I fancied myself Tyrtaeus,
the Spartan poet, who counseled the
youth to honor and loyalty. I never had
this kind intimacy with a Black student,
and I know of no other white teacher
who did.

Teaching can be fun. For a certain
kind of person it is exhilarating to map
out battles on chalkboards, and teach
heroism. It is rewarding to challenge
liberal prejudices, to leave my mark on
these children, but what I aimed for with
my white students I could never achieve
with most Blacks.

There is a kind of child whose look
can melt your heart: some working-class
castaway, in and out of foster homes,
often abused, who is nevertheless almost
an angel. Your heart melts for these children,
this refuse of the modern world.

Many white students possess a certain
innocence. Try as I might, I could not get the
Blacks to care one bit about Beethoven
or Sherman’s march to the sea, or
Tyrtaeus, or Oswald Spengler, or even
liberals like John Rawls, or their own
history. Most of them cared about nothing I
tried to teach them. When this goes on
year after year, it chokes the soul out
of a teacher, destroys his pathos, and
sends him guiltily searching for The Bell
Curve on the Internet.

Blacks break down the intimacy that
can be achieved in the classroom, and
leave you convinced that that intimacy
is really a form of kinship. Without
intending to, they destroy what is most
beautiful—whether it be your belief in
human equality, your daughter’s innocence,
or even the state of the hallway.

Just last year I read on the
bathroom stall the words “F**k
Whitey.” Not two feet away, on the
same stall, was a small swastika.

The National Council for the Social
Studies, the leading authority on social
science education in the United States,
urges teachers to inculcate such values
as equality of opportunity, individual
property rights, and a democratic form
of government. Even if teachers could
inculcate this milquetoast ideology into
whites, liberalism is doomed because so
many non-whites are not receptive to
education of any kind beyond the merest
basics.

It is impossible to
get them to care about such abstractions
as property rights or democratic citizenship.
They do not see much further than
the fact that you live in a big house and
“we in da pro-jek.” Of course, there are a
few loutish whites who will never think
past their next meal and a few sensitive
Blacks for whom anything is possible,
but no society takes on the characteristics
of its exceptions.

Once I asked my students, “What do
you think of the Constitution?”
“It white,” one slouching Black rang
out. The class began to laugh. And I
caught myself laughing along with them,
laughing while Pompeii’s volcano simmers,
while the barbarians swell around
the Palatine, while the country I love,
and the job I love, and the community I
love become dimmer by the day.

I read a book by an expatriate Rhodesian
who visited Zimbabwe not
too many years ago. Traveling with a
companion, she stopped at a store along
the highway. A black man materialized
next to her car window. “Job, boss, (I)
work good, boss,” he pleaded. “You
give job.”

“What happened to your old job?”
the expatriate white asked. The man replied in the straightforward
manner of his race: “We drove
out the whites. No more jobs. You give
job.”

At some level, my students understand
the same thing. One day I asked
the bored, Black faces staring back
at me. “What would happen if all the
white people in America disappeared
tomorrow?”

“We screwed,” a young, pitch-black
boy screamed back. The rest of the
blacks laughed.

I have had children tell me to my face
as they struggled with an assignment. “I
cain’t do dis,” Mr. Jackson. “I black.”

The point is that human beings are not
always rational. It is in the Black man’s
interest to have whites in Zimbabwe but
he drives them out and starves. Most
whites do not think Black Americans
could ever do anything so irrational.
They see Blacks on television smiling,
fighting evil whites, embodying
white values. But the real Black is not
on television, and you pull your purse
closer when you see him, and you lock
the car doors when he swaggers by
with his pants hanging down almost to
his knees.

I have been in parent-teacher conferences
that broke my heart: the child
pleading with his parents to take him
out of school; the parents convinced
their child’s fears are groundless. If you
love your child, show her you care—
not by giving her fancy vacations or a
car, but making her innocent years safe
and happy. Give her the gift of a not-heavily black
school.

Mr. Jackson now teaches at a majority-
white school.
 

iboya

Veteran Member
I taught a class of inner city black girls for several years through my church. It can work if you separate the boys from the girls. This article is to too true.
eta:
I've seen it work when:
The girls and boys are separated.
Control of the class is taken away and kept from the unruly.
The material is presented in a fun and unique way.
They have hope to see beyond the despair.
They want to learn.
...Once you had their respect, you had it forever.
Two great older movies
To Sir, with love

The blackboard jungle
 
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LightEcho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
In the mid-80s I did a little teaching stint in a school of city children. Whites were the minority. The chaos of that place was hellish. The post above is one I read at another site and it brought back memories. Can you imagine trying to teach a class when half of that class time is spent trying to get the animals to sit down? And when veiled threats are made by "students" there was no recourse for the teacher. Administrators would blow off the reports and it was impossible to get the offenders removed from the class. Once they saw they could get away with anything short of a crime, the battle was lost.

Sadly, I saw a few.... and I mean a FEW hopeful students who really wanted to learn and make good use of the time. They were always snuffed by the animals.


btw- it was high school level but they were like 4th graders in capability.... maybe 3d grade level. One day I explained to them the reality of where they were. I told them that they would be going off into the world after school was done and they had to compete with people far more advanced than them. Some of them actually heard what I said and for a minute, got serious. That was a short minute.
 

iboya

Veteran Member
In the mid-80s I did a little teaching stint in a school of city children. Whites were the minority. The chaos of that place was hellish. The post above is one I read at another site and it brought back memories. Can you imagine trying to teach a class when half of that class time is spent trying to get the animals to sit down? And when veiled threats are made by "students" there was no recourse for the teacher. Administrators would blow off the reports and it was impossible to get the offenders removed from the class. Once they saw they could get away with anything short of a crime, the battle was lost.

Sadly, I saw a few.... and I mean a FEW hopeful students who really wanted to learn and make good use of the time. They were always snuffed by the animals.


btw- it was high school level but they were like 4th graders in capability.... maybe 3d grade level. One day I explained to them the reality of where they were. I told them that they would be going off into the world after school was done and they had to compete with people far more advanced than them. Some of them actually heard what I said and for a minute, got serious. That was a short minute.

Yes, in my class, few could read. I started bringing in my A Beka homeschooling basic reading curriculum and giving them a few minutes of basic phonics and homework. They loved it. LaQuanne, the violent ringleader, became like a second daughter to me. She would run off the bus and jump on me with a big hug shouting "Miss iboya, Miss iboya". She was killed in a drive by shooting 2 years after my last year with her. She prayed to receive Christ as her Savior in my class.
 
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Nana

Senior Member
This is what jumped out at me..."no society takes on the characteristics
of its exceptions."
 

Palmetto

Son, Husband, Father
This is what jumped out at me..."no society takes on the characteristics
of its exceptions."


In many ways, our society, (as a whole) is on a downward trajectory to the bottom and the lowest common denominator.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Palmetto, that's at the direct plan of our bloodsucking government. Left to ourselves, that wouldn't be the case.
 

LightEcho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Yes, in my class, few could read. I started bringing in my A beka homeschooling basic reading curriculum and giving them a few minutes of basic phonics and homework. They loved it. LaQuanne, the violent ringleader, became like a second daughter to me. She would run off the bus and jump on me with a big hug shouting "Miss iboya, Miss iboya". She was killed in a drive by shooting 3 years after my last year with her. She prayed to receive Christ as her Savior in my class.

Good job!

I was only subsitute teaching and had that against me from the start. What I began to do was turn their insults back on them. I questioned their remarks back to their own lives. Each day I would put a verse from proverbs on the board and ask who could explain it.

One day, one kid came up to me and looked at my bible on the desk. He threatened me that he was going to report me for having a bible. I told him to go right ahead. It would be my pleasure to see someone accuse me of doing good things and violating no laws. He never said another word. One kid did pray with me after class. I did not stay there too long when I saw that the administrators were only interested in warehousing bodies to conform with state laws.
 

FarOut

Inactive
This is what jumped out at me..."no society takes on the characteristics
of its exceptions."
Me, too. Almost nobody wants to be different but our educational system insists on pretending that they can mold black children into something their society not only considers different but hates.
 

iboya

Veteran Member
Good job!

I was only subsitute teaching and had that against me from the start. What I began to do was turn their insults back on them. I questioned their remarks back to their own lives. Each day I would put a verse from proverbs on the board and ask who could explain it.

One day, one kid came up to me and looked at my bible on the desk. He threatened me that he was going to report me for having a bible. I told him to go right ahead. It would be my pleasure to see someone accuse me of doing good things and violating no laws. He never said another word. One kid did pray with me after class. I did not stay there too long when I saw that the administrators were only interested in warehousing bodies to conform with state laws.
Outstanding!
On LaQuanne's first day in my class, she and her buddy terrorized everyone. Throwing smaller kids to the ground, overturned desks, shouting every time I said anything. I stopped the class, got within 6 inches of her face and said "If you don't want to be here (after school church class-kids bussed in from Milwaukee's highest crime rate neighborhoods) don't come back" Next week, LaQuanne's buddy was gone, but she was there, a completely changed girl. From then on my challange was to teach basic Bible principals - helping them memorize scriptures and having game and craft time. They struggled with memorization so that resulted in setting the verses to a beat. They could then memorize the verses (pretty much) and pass the levels. It became a joy to work with them because they became teachable. We learned to love each other. They obeyed, learned and thrived because they knew they were loved.
 

willowlady

Veteran Member
I read the entire article, and was horrified. Is this what it's like in all the big inner city areas? If so, every large city in the US is completely and totally doomed and I will have to join the guy who keeps yelling, "Get out of the cities." In light of the other discussions regarding crime on this board, I did some research myself and, again, was absolutely horrified. Yes, I've been aware that the major news media only reports black-on-white attacks minimally, and whoops it up if it's the other way around. But local newspapers across the country DO report the attacks, and they are on the internet for all to see. It's like Dennis indicated: There are literally hundreds of viscous black-on-white attacks for every single white-on-black attack.

Having read the OP, I get a glimmering of why. It totally changes my perspective on some things. A race war is coming and it's going to be really horrific. I would venture to say we are in the opening salvos even now. Really, so sad. They worked so hard for rights to equal education, and then Johnson and the Great Society came along and most of their efforts are in the toilet now.
 

Brutus

Inactive
In many ways, our society, (as a whole) is on a downward trajectory to the bottom and the lowest common denominator.

Palmetto, that's at the direct plan of our bloodsucking government. Left to ourselves, that wouldn't be the case.

Dennis, I've got to disagree with you there.

Our government is only a direct reflection of us as a collective.

That's what's wrong with democracy. Everyone has a say, but not everyone is capable of determining for themselves what is good governance and what is not. Even people who work hard every day and pay their bills and don't break the law, etc. don't always know what constitutes good governance.

As was stated in the piece:

no society takes on the characteristics of its exceptions

Government chosen by democratic principles takes on the characteristics of the majority of society, when what is needed is for it to be exceptional.

I think the Founders' greatest screw-up was leaving it to the states to decide "who" was to be a qualified elector (voter). I don't think an honest polling of the Founders would've shown a belief that EVERYONE should be allowed to vote.

JMHO.....

:shk:
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
_______________
I've said this for years but the idea of "Equality"-that we are all equal is frelling stupid.

We are not equal. Men and women are not equal, blacks and whites are not equal.

Even men and men, women and women or white/white, black/black are not equal.

We are all different and if those differences are molded so they become complimentary to each other we become and unstoppable force.

No, you cannot teach black kids the same way you teach white kids, you cannot teach Chinese kids the same way you teach Indians.

Find their talents, what makes them great as a race/species and teach them in the manner that works and teach them in that manner as include ways their talents blend with the talents of other races/colors/people/whatever.

Otherwise it is always going to be a losing game-no matter the race.
 

mercyangel

Proud Memaw
I read the entire article, and was horrified. Is this what it's like in all the big inner city areas?

Sorry to say, but it's not just the "big inner city areas". We live in a small (less than 25000) county in south GA. The public school system is 80+ percent black. This sounds exactly like what goes on at our high school, too. :shk:
 

Mzkitty

I give up.
Very disheartening. It's probably much better where I live up north, but still many fail or go "ghetto." I remember two black teachers. As a teen in high school, we had Mr. DuBois for history. You did NOT mess with him, whether you were black or white. No-nonsense type who got the respect of everyone. And Mrs. Jones, my son's 4th grade teacher in our neighborhood school. She didn't take one ounce of sass from anybody, black or white. My son to this day always says she was his favorite teacher. If she didn't like what you were doing she would chase you around the room with a ruler. hahahaha.......
 

American Rage

Inactive
As someone who has taught in an independent school district in the inner city, I can confirm much of what the author stated. In the school I was in it was one third black, one third white, and one third Mexican (i.e., illegal immigrant). The whites got along with the blacks and the Mexicans, but the Mexicans and blacks absolutely hated each other.

I had three black girls in my class that were very nice, fairly intelligent, and had dreams of getting out of the ghetto. These ladies allowed me to get my job done by putting pressure on the black athletes to make the other students behave so that they could get an education. Thank God for those three ladies, because without them I couldn't achieve anything.

So, what's the problem? Easy, many people who live in the inner cities frankly aren't very bright. The breed and have children who aren't very bright. The father's then run off or get sent to prison. Thus leaving the female (I really can't say 'woman' as many are still teenagers) to raise the kids by herself. Being too young to raise children, and still wanting to have fun, these females often leave their kids unattended. This leads to what psychologists call a "detachment disorder." Detachment disorders are caused when a child does not bond with an adult. If they don't bond by age 3, they never will. These kids grow up to be sociopaths. That means they have no empathy for anyone but themselves. In other words, they have no problem killing you and will often blame you, the victim, for their actions.

It seems the one word that sets a sociopath off more than any other word is the word "no." For example, a few years ago there was a young 13 year old girl being raised by her elderly black grandmother. The girl asked her grannie if she could go to a party. Grannie simply said "no." The child then picked up a butcher knife and stabbed her grannie to death with it. Naturally, she blamed it all on her grannie b/c she had told the child "no."

Finally, politics is also at play here as radical blacks teach their children that the white man is the devil and that they don't have to listen to no white devil.

Thus we see three things going on here. First, substandard IQs. Second, broken families with no parenting skills producing sociopaths on a large scale. And finally, black politics influencing the behaviors of black children to not listen to their white, racist, teachers.

Mix it all together, and you get the hellish warzones that have become our inner cities.


Personally, I think the vast majority of ghetto blacks are fooling themselves. And the day will come when either welfare is dropped forever, or a not so civil war breaks out. Should that occur, I believe that in the early days it will be about politics. But since you can't tell if a white person is liberal or conservative by looking at them, blacks will strike out against any white that they see. This will push liberal whites into the conservative camp, and the slaughter will soon begin. Stuck in the inner cities with no food, water, or services, the ghetto culture will soon be destroyed. Of course, this doesn't mean there won't be massive casualties on both sides, but only that the inner cities inhabitants will recieve the majority of the violence.

And yes, the author is right, black boys go out of their way to seduce and impregnate white girls. And I've personally heard a black girl tell a white girl that she could never be a "real woman" until she had slept with a black man. Heck, I even came across a very cute white girl who had been 'gangbanged' by a bunch of black boys and then put out on the steets as a prostitute for thier gang. She was 15 years old.

And as much as I've hinted to them that this will not go on forever, and that whites will someday either cut them off or riot themselves, they remain clueless. For example, one student told me that there were going to be riots if a store owner who'd shot and killed an armed black teen robber wasn't prosecuted. I tried to explain to her what a bad idea it was b/c of all the innocent people who would be killed (that and the fact that we live in a heavily armed state and city where blacks are outnumbered around 8 to 1), and yet the numbers or facts went right over her head. This is the type of attitude that will lead to future violence, and perhaps even a war that blacks cannot possibly hope to win.

My opinion only.
 
I taught in a school located in the middle of the projects that was integrated by federal mandate until 2007. The population was about 50/50 but the behaviors and attitudes were those of the lowest common denominator. White students don't raise blacks up ... black students drag whites down. Teachers must teach to the lowest ability in the class, or risk censure for not doing so. Public indoctrination is so broken that there is no fixing it. It needs to be dismantled and rebuilt as small, neighborhood schools without any federal control.
 

willowlady

Veteran Member
And the day will come when either welfare is dropped forever, or a not so civil war breaks out. Should that occur, I believe that in the early days it will be about politics. But since you can't tell if a white person is liberal or conservative by looking at them, blacks will strike out against any white that they see. This will push liberal whites into the conservative camp, and the slaughter will soon begin. Stuck in the inner cities with no food, water, or services, the ghetto culture will soon be destroyed. Of course, this doesn't mean there won't be massive casualties on both sides, but only that the inner cities inhabitants will recieve the majority of the violence.

This is what I see coming, too. It may be a ways off; first TPTB must destroy our nation's ability to rise from the ashes like the Phoenix, and they are doing that handily with all the off-shore jobbing and moving industry wholesale overseas, and the dumbing down of America. IMO, the elites want never again to have to contend with a single nation that is a beacon of hope and prosperity for all the world. Once that is completed to their satisfaction, the games will begin. God help us all, it's going to be awful, just awful.
 

dstraito

TB Fanatic
My daughter caled me te other day telling me she was working as a sub at my old high-school. It as gone to almost 100% black. The kids there bumped into her on purpose, glared at her, made rude comments in the halls and class, would not pay attention in class or follow instructions, and had absolutely No interest in learning. It does NOT bode well for the future.

A person I went to high school with has a sales route in the high school area. She walked into a convience store and saw a black girl with a band jacket on with the high school logo. My friend said to the girl "I have a coat just like that". The girl looked at her surprised and said "You went to an all black school?"

When I was a senior it was maybe 2 percent black.

It also was recently in danger of being closed because of it's dismal performance. Hard to get good performance when the kids don't give a damn. Call racism, call it what you want, it is what it is.
 

FREEBIRD

Has No Life - Lives on TB
My experience: For a few years we belonged to a mixed-race inner-city Catholic parish, and our kids attended the school---we were at the time the only white family in the school, along with a few Omaha Indian families and the overwhelming majority black students. Our kids got along fine, the students were not a problem---the only problem was one black teacher who resented our DD getting the best grades in her class, and problems which developed with the administration (all white). Years later the same DD went to public high school in an entirely different part of town, and some of her grade-school classmates were there and remembered her fondly, and they still got along.

This was, however, a tuition-plus-scholarship school in which parents signed a contract as to parent participation, student expectations, etc. The parents were trying to give thir children a leg up out of the ghetto. When you have parents who treasure education and model that for their children and insist on good behavior, black children do well.

Fast forward to the public high school (middle of the barrio, half-Hispanic, over a quarter white, the rest black). My kids had no problem getting along with pretty much everyone, each group kind of stays to themselves but not exclusively---though the Hispanic and white kids mix more than the blacks do. My kids had black friends and Hispanic friends if there were common interests: one of DD's best friends was a mixed-race (black-white) girl who was on Academic Decathlon with her---girl's mother was white and was at every school event; the other DD had a friend who was black and this very nice young man was the only black in their group---all his friends were white).

Two keys---this part of town has always been a working-class mixed area---when your parents all work together it's hard to think you're "better". The school is also an arts magnet school so a lot of the kids are involved with serious pursuit of extra-curriculars, and no coach or teacher tolerates "attitude" or bullying, by anyone, to anyone. The last two principals before the current one were black and they were on top of things. The current principal is white, female, in her forties, and everyone loves and respects her.

People ask me if I'm not afraid to have our kids go there (NO) and how the Hispanics are all gangbangers and trash---that hasn't been our experience.
 

American Rage

Inactive
People ask me if I'm not afraid to have our kids go there (NO) and how the Hispanics are all gangbangers and trash---that hasn't been our experience.


Funny you should mention that. Even though a lot of them were in gangs, my Mexican kids (illegal aliens) were overall the best behaved racial group in the school.
 

Flippper

Time Traveler
It makes sense that blacks treat their time at school as playtime, they know that they can live off the public dole if they choose to do so, have free time, a house, car and food for doing nothing. I'm sure they think a person is crazy to waste their day working when they can sit back and do nothing. Our neighbors are doing just that, but they're white. The gov. has made it more profitable for poor folks to do nothing and get paid for it than for them to get a job and a leg up-the pay is similar, should we expect them to work when they don't have to? It's not really their fault entirely, it's the system. The coming economic crash will change that, the system will reset.
 

Publius

On TB every waking moment
It can be fixed and the state and county school officials have to come to an agreement and understanding that it will require some harsh measures to break the cycle and have to keep it up for four generations before it's fixed.
 

TimeTraveler

Veteran Member
One can only assimilate within the limits of there own cultural boundaries. Very few break out of these boundaries. It was the same way with the American Indians. When the boundaries are crossed, you no longer identify with your culture heritage. Without this, really, who are you?
 

Rabbit

Has No Life - Lives on TB
One can only assimilate within the limits of there own cultural boundaries. Very few break out of these boundaries. It was the same way with the American Indians. When the boundaries are crossed, you no longer identify with your culture heritage. Without this, really, who are you?

If you can't be who you are with civility and dignity who wants to be around you anyway?
 

lassiesma

Inactive
I feel that much of this can be changed and needs to be addressed early in the education process. Teachers no longer require students to speak properly. If a teacher is willing to accept a student yelling out "hey teach I gotta piss" instead of requiring the student to raise their hand and ask if they could please use the rest room the student won't learn the proper way to speak or ultimately write. Proper speech needs to be taught and reinforced by each and every teacher. It is my opinion that this is where respect for each other and for learning begins. Strengths, weaknesses, and learning styles are important but need to be built on after basic speech is learned. A person can never be a runner if he/she hasn't learned to stand.
 

Publius

On TB every waking moment
I feel that much of this can be changed and needs to be addressed early in the education process. Teachers no longer require students to speak properly. If a teacher is willing to accept a student yelling out "hey teach I gotta piss" instead of requiring the student to raise their hand and ask if they could please use the rest room the student won't learn the proper way to speak or ultimately write. Proper speech needs to be taught and reinforced by each and every teacher. It is my opinion that this is where respect for each other and for learning begins. Strengths, weaknesses, and learning styles are important but need to be built on after basic speech is learned. A person can never be a runner if he/she hasn't learned to stand.


This^^ and like I was saying it will take many, many years to undo what has been allowed to become the normal and over time its taught in the home as well. After four generations the kids will start having a hard time understanding their grandparents ebonic gibberish.
 
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Bab

Inactive
If you can't be who you are with civility and dignity who wants to be around you anyway?

Rabbit, you are correct, and that's exactly the way I taught in my inner-city Milwaukee Jr. Hi. school for five and one half years. Yes, it was a challenge, and even moreso because it was at the time when bussing was started. My school went from being 20% black to 80% black and was the focus of all kinds of protests. I remember walking students thru lines of police holding back skinheads shouting obscenities just to get in the door. Not a particularly good educational environment, but we made it.

I began teaching there as a one day substitute for the music class. The kids had already been through 6 weeks worth of subs, many of whom had books and other things thrown at them. I was hired for one day because they didn't think I'd last either. Chorus was down to 12 rowdy kids by this time. Kids were "jiving" all over the classroom and totally ignoring me when I walked in. I grabbed my guitar, plopped myself down on the desk and started singing "Nobody likes me, everybody hates me, I'm goin' out an' eat worms." and everything stopped. Once I had their attention I explained the facts of life to them...I knew something they didn't and it was up to THEM to learn it.

When I left 5.5 years later, there were 1500 kids in the music program and the dept had 3 full time teachers, two para-professionals, and 2 clerical aides. We all worked with the regular classroom teachers to tailor our curriculum to reinforce what they were doing in their classes and it made a difference there, too.

Did I have problems? Sure. I vividly remember standing between two students with knives drawn who wanted me to move cause he was "gonna kill him". I faced down the kid I knew (expecting a knife in my back) and he shook his head and said "I can't do it, I respect you too much." Phew!

The worst was the girls because once they got going they wouldn't back down. I remember my 6'2" paraprofessional trying to break up a girls fight and he had his hands full. I waded into the fray, caught one of the girls around the neck and jammed my fingers up her nose and dragged her to the office by the nose. He finally picked up the other girl and carried her.

My classroom seated 66 students and extra chairs were set up for general music class. For the most part, I didn't have much in the way of discipline problems because I was tough, but fair and the kids knew it. I taught the fun classes and they didn't want to miss it.

I required high standards in my classroom and the talent I saw grow was awesome.
 

Oilpatch Hand

3-Bomb General, TB2K Army
It can be fixed and the state and county school officials have to come to an agreement and understanding that it will require some harsh measures to break the cycle and have to keep it up for four generations before it's fixed.

I'm not so sure the problem is the schools themselves. They are far from perfect, granted, but look at what they're being asked to work with.

The schools are being asked to make something out of defective raw material, i.e., undisciplined children.

This defective raw material (children) comes from parents who themselves are defective, because they also lack discipline, and have no clue how to instill a sense of self-discipline in their children, even if they were inclined to do so.

No matter how good the teacher may be, he/she still needs the most basic building block of education: a child with a sufficient level of self-discipline that enables them to sit down, shut up and pay attention in class. And the schools aren't getting that now.
 

Yarnball

Veteran Member
Sorry to say, but it's not just the "big inner city areas". We live in a small (less than 25000) county in south GA. The public school system is 80+ percent black. This sounds exactly like what goes on at our high school, too. :shk:

I worked in a very well-to-do suburban high school in Columbus, Ohio. The race to the bottom is there, too. When did the unruliness and violence in the school start? When section 8 housing was forced into the area. Sorry. These cultures are too different to educate together. People can keep on pretending that we just have to find the "right" way to teach these students, a way that "works" for them but that is hogwash. Our country's buy-in to the pc crap has sent us screaming to the lowest among us. Sad.
 

Yarnball

Veteran Member
I taught in a school located in the middle of the projects that was integrated by federal mandate until 2007. The population was about 50/50 but the behaviors and attitudes were those of the lowest common denominator. White students don't raise blacks up ... black students drag whites down. Teachers must teach to the lowest ability in the class, or risk censure for not doing so. Public indoctrination is so broken that there is no fixing it. It needs to be dismantled and rebuilt as small, neighborhood schools without any federal control.


yes.
 

iboya

Veteran Member
Rabbit, you are correct, and that's exactly the way I taught in my inner-city Milwaukee Jr. Hi. school for five and one half years. Yes, it was a challenge, and even moreso because it was at the time when bussing was started. My school went from being 20% black to 80% black and was the focus of all kinds of protests. I remember walking students thru lines of police holding back skinheads shouting obscenities just to get in the door. Not a particularly good educational environment, but we made it.

I began teaching there as a one day substitute for the music class. The kids had already been through 6 weeks worth of subs, many of whom had books and other things thrown at them. I was hired for one day because they didn't think I'd last either. Chorus was down to 12 rowdy kids by this time. Kids were "jiving" all over the classroom and totally ignoring me when I walked in. I grabbed my guitar, plopped myself down on the desk and started singing "Nobody likes me, everybody hates me, I'm goin' out an' eat worms." and everything stopped. Once I had their attention I explained the facts of life to them...I knew something they didn't and it was up to THEM to learn it.

When I left 5.5 years later, there were 1500 kids in the music program and the dept had 3 full time teachers, two para-professionals, and 2 clerical aides. We all worked with the regular classroom teachers to tailor our curriculum to reinforce what they were doing in their classes and it made a difference there, too.

Did I have problems? Sure. I vividly remember standing between two students with knives drawn who wanted me to move cause he was "gonna kill him". I faced down the kid I knew (expecting a knife in my back) and he shook his head and said "I can't do it, I respect you too much." Phew!

The worst was the girls because once they got going they wouldn't back down. I remember my 6'2" paraprofessional trying to break up a girls fight and he had his hands full. I waded into the fray, caught one of the girls around the neck and jammed my fingers up her nose and dragged her to the office by the nose. He finally picked up the other girl and carried her.

My classroom seated 66 students and extra chairs were set up for general music class. For the most part, I didn't have much in the way of discipline problems because I was tough, but fair and the kids knew it. I taught the fun classes and they didn't want to miss it.

I required high standards in my classroom and the talent I saw grow was awesome.
Bab,
Now that is the definition of what teaching is all about.
:applaud:
 

Shea Grey

Membership Revoked by Request
if there's a coming race war, what the hail are any of you doing living in a county that aint 99% white?

no amount of forum posting, is going to get you any farther away from this reality, so why not just focus ALL your attention and labors upon achieving this end? the whole world is going 'tribal' anyway, thats just a reality.

i can understand the underlying anger, but anger unfocused, just leads to what?...dying in place? if where you live, is going to the dogs, GET OUT!!

you all really think all this urban nightmare predators gangs leave TPTB sleepless?...think about it. all this madness is tied up, in highly concentrated urban areas...tell me if i'm wrong. That said, any military commander, worth his salt, and having the manpower and force, can seal off these area's, right?....so who do you think these alphabet camps are REALLY for?

white folks?

come on. last time we did this, back in 42, we put japs behind wire, did we put german americans behind wire?.....no. we put the japs there. okay, so now we got a low level insurrection in urban areas with black gang's, and we got a lot of muzzies, ALSO in urban areas, building mosques, not assimilating...if something large and ugly happens, where you think they're going?

if you're white, and get nervous where you're at....get out, head to an area, where your county and every surrounding county is 99% white.

i did, and i dont hate anybody. its 2012, and if you like cities, you're just going to have take what the city "gives", and what it appears to be giving is a for real shite storm. Get to where the winters are harsh, the woods hard, and the water pure, its the only answer. You cant change a darn thing, EXCEPT, your own lifestyle...so do it.

this forum has a LOT of 'cred' among preppers, but if you let it degenirate into the 'we hate negroes" forum, you're gonna lose that 'cred', and you might even get a lot of outside focus from the PC, tree hugging crowd, you dont want.

i got about one foot out the door, not coz i'm some panty waist limp wristed commie queer, coz i dont like some harsh undeserved spotlight shining on me, who needs the heat?....dont let them paint tb2k as the 'we hate negroes' haunt. so now if you want to hate on me for saying that, go for it....gimme that push. i always liked the forum, because you could get heads up links on unfolding info and news, as far this other stuff, tell me something i dont know.
 

kua

Veteran Member
I waded into the fray, caught one of the girls around the neck and jammed my fingers up her nose and dragged her to the office by the nose. Oh Bab, you made me laugh.

I was doing a week long sub in a math class and a parent was not happy with how I disciplined her child. She came in to talk to me during my lunch period and stood so close and ranted at me. To this day I do not remember what she had to say but I do remember looking up at her and right up her nose and thinking Oh lady, you ought to trim those nose hairs!

I am so happy to be retired and not teaching any more. I really appreciate those who have had success with these children. My own DD teaches in an alternative high school and the things she shares are more than I could deal with today.
 

Shea Grey

Membership Revoked by Request
Rabbit, you are correct, and that's exactly the way I taught in my inner-city Milwaukee Jr. Hi. school for five and one half years. Yes, it was a challenge, and even moreso because it was at the time when bussing was started. My school went from being 20% black to 80% black and was the focus of all kinds of protests. I remember walking students thru lines of police holding back skinheads shouting obscenities just to get in the door. Not a particularly good educational environment, but we made it.

I began teaching there as a one day substitute for the music class. The kids had already been through 6 weeks worth of subs, many of whom had books and other things thrown at them. I was hired for one day because they didn't think I'd last either. Chorus was down to 12 rowdy kids by this time. Kids were "jiving" all over the classroom and totally ignoring me when I walked in. I grabbed my guitar, plopped myself down on the desk and started singing "Nobody likes me, everybody hates me, I'm goin' out an' eat worms." and everything stopped. Once I had their attention I explained the facts of life to them...I knew something they didn't and it was up to THEM to learn it.

When I left 5.5 years later, there were 1500 kids in the music program and the dept had 3 full time teachers, two para-professionals, and 2 clerical aides. We all worked with the regular classroom teachers to tailor our curriculum to reinforce what they were doing in their classes and it made a difference there, too.

Did I have problems? Sure. I vividly remember standing between two students with knives drawn who wanted me to move cause he was "gonna kill him". I faced down the kid I knew (expecting a knife in my back) and he shook his head and said "I can't do it, I respect you too much." Phew!

The worst was the girls because once they got going they wouldn't back down. I remember my 6'2" paraprofessional trying to break up a girls fight and he had his hands full. I waded into the fray, caught one of the girls around the neck and jammed my fingers up her nose and dragged her to the office by the nose. He finally picked up the other girl and carried her.

My classroom seated 66 students and extra chairs were set up for general music class. For the most part, I didn't have much in the way of discipline problems because I was tough, but fair and the kids knew it. I taught the fun classes and they didn't want to miss it.

I required high standards in my classroom and the talent I saw grow was awesome.

Bab, that is one outstanding testimony, thank you for your service to country, Shea
 

American Rage

Inactive
if there's a coming race war, what the hail are any of you doing living in a county that aint 99% white?

no amount of forum posting, is going to get you any farther away from this reality, so why not just focus ALL your attention and labors upon achieving this end? the whole world is going 'tribal' anyway, thats just a reality.

i can understand the underlying anger, but anger unfocused, just leads to what?...dying in place? if where you live, is going to the dogs, GET OUT!!

you all really think all this urban nightmare predators gangs leave TPTB sleepless?...think about it. all this madness is tied up, in highly concentrated urban areas...tell me if i'm wrong. That said, any military commander, worth his salt, and having the manpower and force, can seal off these area's, right?....so who do you think these alphabet camps are REALLY for?

white folks?

come on. last time we did this, back in 42, we put japs behind wire, did we put german americans behind wire?.....no. we put the japs there. okay, so now we got a low level insurrection in urban areas with black gang's, and we got a lot of muzzies, ALSO in urban areas, building mosques, not assimilating...if something large and ugly happens, where you think they're going?

if you're white, and get nervous where you're at....get out, head to an area, where your county and every surrounding county is 99% white.

i did, and i dont hate anybody. its 2012, and if you like cities, you're just going to have take what the city "gives", and what it appears to be giving is a for real shite storm. Get to where the winters are harsh, the woods hard, and the water pure, its the only answer. You cant change a darn thing, EXCEPT, your own lifestyle...so do it.

this forum has a LOT of 'cred' among preppers, but if you let it degenirate into the 'we hate negroes" forum, you're gonna lose that 'cred', and you might even get a lot of outside focus from the PC, tree hugging crowd, you dont want.

i got about one foot out the door, not coz i'm some panty waist limp wristed commie queer, coz i dont like some harsh undeserved spotlight shining on me, who needs the heat?....dont let them paint tb2k as the 'we hate negroes' haunt. so now if you want to hate on me for saying that, go for it....gimme that push. i always liked the forum, because you could get heads up links on unfolding info and news, as far this other stuff, tell me something i dont know.

I live in a suburb full of military retirees and active duty personnel. It is part of the most conservative big city metro area in the country. We have oil, natural gas, and lots of farm land. If something were to go wrong, I'm in as good a place as it gets, at least to my thinking.
 
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