BRKG Holder asking White House to invoke Executive Privilege on Fast & Furious docs - GRANTED!!
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As I said on the Lott thread on this:
Step right up!! Get yer Constitutional Crisis RIGHT HERE FOLKS!!!
Watergate 2012 (the "18 minute gap" in the tapes)
And the sheep continue to graze....
Step right up!! Get yer Constitutional Crisis RIGHT HERE FOLKS!!!
Watergate 2012 (the "18 minute gap" in the tapes)
And the sheep continue to graze....
******s running the country. What else could you expect...?
ETA: If the Rombama campaign was smart (HIGHLY doubtful) they'd fire off a string of Nixon/Watergate era comparison ads and KEEP IT UP all the way to election day. Those ads would have the Anointed One proclaiming how his administration would be "the most transparent in history" followed immediately by the Nixon/Watergate material.
But we already know that Rombama's people are far too stupid to do that...
ETA: If the Rombama campaign was smart (HIGHLY doubtful) they'd fire off a string of Nixon/Watergate era comparison ads and KEEP IT UP all the way to election day. Those ads would have the Anointed One proclaiming how his administration would be "the most transparent in history" followed immediately by the Nixon/Watergate material.
But we already know that Rombama's people are far too stupid to do that...
mbabulldog
Has No Life - Lives on TB
The size of the balls of this administration just boggles the mind...
The whole problem with congress or senate doing this is it will go no where! No one in the justice department will do anything as they all in on it too. This requires the original plaintiff to file a complaint with the federal Grand Jury and they can do an investigation into the matter and will end up removing all the offending parities in the justice department along with holder. Now they can also go as far as to hand up an indictment for criminal charges if their findings warrant such.
Obama grants Holder request on 'Furious' documents as contempt vote looms
Published June 20, 2012
| FoxNews.com
DEVELOPING ...
President Obama has granted an 11th-hour request by Eric Holder to exert executive privilege over Fast and Furious documents, a last-minute maneuver that appears unlikely to head off a contempt vote against the attorney general by Republicans in the House.
The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee is expected to forge ahead with its meeting on the contempt resolution anyway.
ORIGINAL STORY ...
House Republicans appear to be charging ahead with a high-drama contempt vote against Eric Holder, after GOP Rep. Darrell Issa said the attorney generally failed to produce the documents he requested for the probe into the Justice Department's botched Fast and Furious operation.
The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee is scheduled to meet at 10 a.m. ET on Wednesday. Barring a last-minute document dump from Holder, lawmakers are poised to vote on a contempt resolution following debate this morning.
If the vote proceeds, Republicans have more than enough votes on committee to pass the resolution. However, Holder would not be considered to be held in contempt of Congress unless and until the full House approves the measure.
Issa and Holder have been going back and forth since last week over Issa's request for documents. Issa, R-Calif., indicated a willingness to postpone the vote after Holder indicated a willingness to make compromises and supply some documents in response to House Republicans' subpoena.
But Issa told reporters after a roughly 20-minute meeting with Holder Tuesday that the attorney general instead briefed them on the documents in lieu of delivering them.
Issa told Fox News that Holder didn't provide "anything in writing," and said the family of murdered Border Patrol agent Brian Terry wants the documents as much as he does.
"We want the documents. Brian Terry's family would like the documents that are responsive to how in fact their son was gunned down with weapons that came from lawful dealers but at the ... behest of the Justice Department," Issa told Fox News.
Weapons from the Fast and Furious anti-gunrunning operation were found at Terry's murder scene.
Issa suggested earlier Tuesday that the vote could still be up in the air.
"The deadline will always move to the last minute," said Issa, chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. "We're not looking to hold people responsible. We're looking for document production."
The failed Fast and Furious operation attempted selling thousands of guns to arms dealers along the U.S.-Mexico border to trace them to leaders of drug cartels. However, many of them showed up in crime scenes.
Congressional investigators have been trying to determine if and when high-level Justice officials knew about problems with the operation.
Holder said Issa rejected what he thought was "an extraordinary offer."
"We offered the documents that we thought would resolve the subpoenas," he said. "The ball is in their court."
The contempt vote in the oversight committee will likely pass considering Republicans outnumber Democrats 22 to 16.
GOP House leadership has given Issa the green light to proceed how he sees fit, sources told Fox News, which suggests the vote would reach the House floor.
Holder called for the Capitol Hill meeting late Monday in a possible attempt to make a deal with Issa and avoid the contempt vote.
Maryland Rep. Elijah Cummings, the top Democrat on the House oversight panel, said he after the meeting he is confident that Justice officials are not attempting a cover-up by withholding documents.
Holder's letter stated the Justice Department "has offered a serious, good faith proposal to bring this matter to an amicable resolution in the form of a briefing based on documents that the committee could retain."
Issa had demanded to see a trove of documents on the controversial Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives operation. He also wants to know who prepared a now-retracted letter from Feb. 4, 2011, in which the department claimed the U.S. did not knowingly help smuggle guns to Mexico, including those found where Terry was killed.
Issa wrote back to Holder later Monday requesting he deliver roughly 1,300 documents pertaining to the Feb. 4 letter.
The letter also stated Holder needed to deliver a description of all the documents he will not produce. Issa said the log is "essential for the committee to determine whether the department has substantially met its obligations" -- a statement he repeated Tuesday after the meeting.
Fox News' William LaJeunesse and Chad Pergram contributed to this report.
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Published June 20, 2012
| FoxNews.com
DEVELOPING ...
President Obama has granted an 11th-hour request by Eric Holder to exert executive privilege over Fast and Furious documents, a last-minute maneuver that appears unlikely to head off a contempt vote against the attorney general by Republicans in the House.
The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee is expected to forge ahead with its meeting on the contempt resolution anyway.
ORIGINAL STORY ...
House Republicans appear to be charging ahead with a high-drama contempt vote against Eric Holder, after GOP Rep. Darrell Issa said the attorney generally failed to produce the documents he requested for the probe into the Justice Department's botched Fast and Furious operation.
The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee is scheduled to meet at 10 a.m. ET on Wednesday. Barring a last-minute document dump from Holder, lawmakers are poised to vote on a contempt resolution following debate this morning.
If the vote proceeds, Republicans have more than enough votes on committee to pass the resolution. However, Holder would not be considered to be held in contempt of Congress unless and until the full House approves the measure.
Issa and Holder have been going back and forth since last week over Issa's request for documents. Issa, R-Calif., indicated a willingness to postpone the vote after Holder indicated a willingness to make compromises and supply some documents in response to House Republicans' subpoena.
But Issa told reporters after a roughly 20-minute meeting with Holder Tuesday that the attorney general instead briefed them on the documents in lieu of delivering them.
Issa told Fox News that Holder didn't provide "anything in writing," and said the family of murdered Border Patrol agent Brian Terry wants the documents as much as he does.
"We want the documents. Brian Terry's family would like the documents that are responsive to how in fact their son was gunned down with weapons that came from lawful dealers but at the ... behest of the Justice Department," Issa told Fox News.
Weapons from the Fast and Furious anti-gunrunning operation were found at Terry's murder scene.
Issa suggested earlier Tuesday that the vote could still be up in the air.
"The deadline will always move to the last minute," said Issa, chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. "We're not looking to hold people responsible. We're looking for document production."
The failed Fast and Furious operation attempted selling thousands of guns to arms dealers along the U.S.-Mexico border to trace them to leaders of drug cartels. However, many of them showed up in crime scenes.
Congressional investigators have been trying to determine if and when high-level Justice officials knew about problems with the operation.
Holder said Issa rejected what he thought was "an extraordinary offer."
"We offered the documents that we thought would resolve the subpoenas," he said. "The ball is in their court."
The contempt vote in the oversight committee will likely pass considering Republicans outnumber Democrats 22 to 16.
GOP House leadership has given Issa the green light to proceed how he sees fit, sources told Fox News, which suggests the vote would reach the House floor.
Holder called for the Capitol Hill meeting late Monday in a possible attempt to make a deal with Issa and avoid the contempt vote.
Maryland Rep. Elijah Cummings, the top Democrat on the House oversight panel, said he after the meeting he is confident that Justice officials are not attempting a cover-up by withholding documents.
Holder's letter stated the Justice Department "has offered a serious, good faith proposal to bring this matter to an amicable resolution in the form of a briefing based on documents that the committee could retain."
Issa had demanded to see a trove of documents on the controversial Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives operation. He also wants to know who prepared a now-retracted letter from Feb. 4, 2011, in which the department claimed the U.S. did not knowingly help smuggle guns to Mexico, including those found where Terry was killed.
Issa wrote back to Holder later Monday requesting he deliver roughly 1,300 documents pertaining to the Feb. 4 letter.
The letter also stated Holder needed to deliver a description of all the documents he will not produce. Issa said the log is "essential for the committee to determine whether the department has substantially met its obligations" -- a statement he repeated Tuesday after the meeting.
Fox News' William LaJeunesse and Chad Pergram contributed to this report.
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Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
"Executive Priviledge" =
WE have all the priviledges
YOU (the peons, the sheep) have the priviledge to be allowed to PAY TAXES to SUPPORT WE "the Priviledged"
And the Constitution?
merely an old-fashioned piece of toilet paper....
"some animals are more equal than others..."
WE have all the priviledges
YOU (the peons, the sheep) have the priviledge to be allowed to PAY TAXES to SUPPORT WE "the Priviledged"
And the Constitution?
merely an old-fashioned piece of toilet paper....
"some animals are more equal than others..."
fairbanksb
Freedom Isn't Free
Judge Napolitano said on FOX that these communications are not the type to be covered under executive privilege. No surprise that Bam Bam doesn't know his job. He apparently just dictates and that's fine.
CGTech
Has No Life - Lives on TB
never mind, just read Dennis's other thread. got it now. Hitler the 2nd is rising! jeez!
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Given the White House action that just came down, PROTECTING Holder from prosecution by HOLDING ALL PAPERS relevant to "Fast and Furious" that were subpeona'd by Congress,
THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS JUST MADE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT IT CONSIDERS ITSELF SUBJECT TO NO LAW BUT ITS OWN.
GIVEN THAT, I NOW FULLY BELIEVE THEM CAPABLE OF ANYTHING WHEN THE SCOTUS DECISION IS ANNOUNCED---FROM MERELY IGNORING IT AND ATTEMPTING TO IMPLEMENT OBAMACARE ANYWAY, ALL THE WAY UP TO TAKING OVER SOLE CONTROL OF THE US GOVERNMENT AND DISSOLVING THE OTHER BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT TO SOLIDIFY ITS RULE.
These people recognize NO authority but their OWN.
They are BEYOND dangerous.
And if our Congress does not rise up and STOP them, we are already lost.
(and I'm not holding my breath).
THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS JUST MADE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT IT CONSIDERS ITSELF SUBJECT TO NO LAW BUT ITS OWN.
GIVEN THAT, I NOW FULLY BELIEVE THEM CAPABLE OF ANYTHING WHEN THE SCOTUS DECISION IS ANNOUNCED---FROM MERELY IGNORING IT AND ATTEMPTING TO IMPLEMENT OBAMACARE ANYWAY, ALL THE WAY UP TO TAKING OVER SOLE CONTROL OF THE US GOVERNMENT AND DISSOLVING THE OTHER BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT TO SOLIDIFY ITS RULE.
These people recognize NO authority but their OWN.
They are BEYOND dangerous.
And if our Congress does not rise up and STOP them, we are already lost.
(and I'm not holding my breath).
This administration has LOTS to hide, and the pile just keeps growing.
fairbanksb
Freedom Isn't Free
Judge Napolitano weighing in on the subject on FOX News Channel right after this commercial break.
gawarriorqueen
WWG1WGA
WHERE ARE THE IRATE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS?????
Many of them complain, but who gets up to give the firey Patrick Henry speech???? OMG, do we ever need a real patriot to step up!
Many of them complain, but who gets up to give the firey Patrick Henry speech???? OMG, do we ever need a real patriot to step up!
I think all this is his Nixonian attempt to NOT be implicated. I think the HNIC is up to his eyebrows in this thing, and was from the beginning.
Looks like the WHI hit another home run. His credibility (and likelihood of his actual existence) grows in my mind with each passing day now.
minkykat
Komplainy Kat
Hope he/she comes out with some more insight today or soon. Hope they're able to keep on step ahead of the gangbang thugs that make up this regime.
Vegas321
Live free and survive
Yep. This criminal ****tard blows the mind with the shit he and his ilk pull.
Terriannie
Has No Life - Lives on TB
On the upside, let Obama and Holder continue to HIDE!!! The last time Executive Privilege was sought was Nixon which is synonymous with HIDING!!!! No matter the legal step Obama is taking, the fact is, he CANNOT remove the FACT that he is HIDING SOMETHING!!!! I don't care if one is Chris Mathews, they won't be able spin beyond that!!!!!
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Things are going to get TOO hot for Obama with this.
If there was ever a time for him to set in motion a false flag, this is it.
If there was ever a time for him to set in motion a false flag, this is it.
Consider this!
Many of this countries legislators are lawyers, Judges are lawyers, prosecutors are lawyers, attorneys are lawyers and many in our media are lawyers. Rule of Law? A Constitutional layer is sitting in the highest
Office this country has to offer, yet we see a complete disregard to our Constitution.
Authoritarian Dictatorial System?
Many of this countries legislators are lawyers, Judges are lawyers, prosecutors are lawyers, attorneys are lawyers and many in our media are lawyers. Rule of Law? A Constitutional layer is sitting in the highest
Office this country has to offer, yet we see a complete disregard to our Constitution.
Authoritarian Dictatorial System?
