POL BREAKING: Ron Paul to end active campaigning

Kadosh

Kadosh

Inactive
Border guard said:
TPTB have the fix in once again. If either Mitt or 'O' win this country is toast. JMHO. - BG
Click to expand...
Amen! We are ENABLING them to force feed us their evil, corrupt "rulers". We have been allowing it, and WE can stop it by ceasing to compromise. IF only we had the faith and courage to do so.
 
Kadosh

Kadosh

Inactive
AzProtector said:
You realize how many LDS members on this forum...including the owner?
Click to expand...
I guess we must pray for the truth to be revealed to us all.
"Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins." ~James 5:20
 
Ender

Ender

Inactive
Kadosh said:
I guess we must pray for the truth to be revealed to us all.
"Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins." ~James 5:20
Click to expand...

First of all, Mormons are the most Christian people I know- in the real sense of the word.

Second- even for the prostitute, Jesus said "Ye who have not sinned, cast the first stone."

I don't think you qualify.
 
Ender

Ender

Inactive
shinerbock said:
Romney has 945 delegates that are committed to him on the first ballot. By Republican Party by-laws, they cannot vote for anyone else. Sometime in June, most likely the first week thereof, Romney will have the necessary delegates who will be committed to vote for him on the first ballot, period. Since he is heavily favored to win all of the remaining primaries, it is merely a matter of time.

The die is cast and the race for the nomination has slowed to a crawl but the outcome is
certain and has been since the end of March.
Click to expand...

Not true- according to Rule 38, delegates can abstain and are not bound for the national convention by state rules.

This is why the RP campaign is focusing on this. They are winning BTW-
 
Kadosh

Kadosh

Inactive
Well, here comes the love...huh? Ender: I hope you're not saying that I must be sinless to attempt to point out the error of another. If that's the case, we're all pretty much doomed. Dennis: Perhaps I am ignorant of your beliefs. Rather than name-calling, how about educating me? Or is that not "your way"?
 
Ender

Ender

Inactive
Kadosh said:
Well, here comes the love...huh? Ender: I hope you're not saying that I must be sinless to attempt to point out the error of another. If that's the case, we're all pretty much doomed. Dennis: Perhaps I am ignorant of your beliefs. Rather than name-calling, how about educating me? Or is that not "your way"?
Click to expand...

According to Christ that is EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID.

Clean up the mess in your own yard first, bud.
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
_______________
For a start:

The Articles of Faith
of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.

We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.

We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.

We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.

We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.

We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.

We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.

We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.

We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.

We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.

We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.

We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.

We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Joseph Smith

http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,106-1-2-1,FF.html
 
Kathy in FL

Kathy in FL

Administrator
_______________
Dennis Olson said:
Lots of "Sunday Christians" gonna end up at the gates of Hell Ender. Not to worry... :dvl1:
Click to expand...

Of all flavors.

It isn't near as important what you call yourself as what God calls you. You are either His child or you are not. And no religion is going to get you into Heaven ... or keep you out of it. What will keep you out is the failure to have an individual relationship with God.

And what ultimately gives you your position in Heaven ... and yeah, if you study the Biblical description of what comes after Armeggedon you find out that there will be a government and jobs and all that stuff ... is your relationship with God, not you position (or lack of) in a church/religion.
 
Kadosh

Kadosh

Inactive
You know, I just realized that I veered wildly from the thread topic. If you'd like to start a thread (or would like me to) to discuss the mormon beliefs, I'll gladly participate in that discussion. Sorry OP for the hijack.
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
_______________
Any hard-core religious discussion will take place in the REL SIG (of course). Feel free to start a thread on any topic you wish. I won't participate (having heard it all before), but you can bash people to your little black heart's content...
 
Countrymouse

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Kadosh said:
Should Christians vote for the lesser of two evils?
Posted on June 9, 2011 by Pilgrim

The topic of whether or not Christians should vote recently came up in the comment thread of this post that originally asked the question of whether or not Christians should vote for a Mormon (i.e. Mitt Romney). However, the predominant question that emerged from the comment thread was: Should a Christian vote for the lesser of two evils?

Now, if a truly blood-bought, born-again, child of God was running for political office, the debate would be moot. But let’s face it, we will probably never be given that option (at least not on the presidential ticket). Any genuine Christian with presidential aspirations would be facing an insurmountable obstacle of opposition because the world would hate him because it hated Christ first (and no pupil or Christian presidential candidate is above His master).

The unfortunate truth is, gaining the approval of the voting populace would require compromising one’s faith and morals in order to be accepted and in order to procure the votes needed to win. The Christian candidate would have no choice but to assimilate to the world in order to garner the approval of the world. (To see how successful that pragmatic approach is just look at the result of years of pastors pandering to the world while their sheep are dying of starvation. There’s a reason why God warned us not to mix light with darkness.)

Time and time again in America Christians are relegated to having to choose between the lesser of the two evils and it doesn’t appear that the upcoming presidential election will be any different.

So, with all that said, my current position is that true Christians should not have to vote if they first have to sit down and estimate which candidate is the lesser of two evils.

Although I cannot (and will not) dictate to others whether they should vote or not, my conscience tells me that voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.

Now, I know that there are many who will respectfully disagree with my position, and even suggest that it’s our duty as Americans and our obligation as Christians to vote for someone . . . anyone! So, for the furtherance of this discussion, I present the following four questions for your consideration:

1). What happens when both candidates are pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, anti-Christian, big government socialists?

The way things are going, we’re not too far from that scenario now (and some might even argue that that’s what we already have every election cycle; just one candidate hides it better than the other).

If/when this scenario occurs do we flip a coin, or is voter abstinence permissible then? If you say the latter, then you must concede that those Christians who refuse to vote now because neither of the candidates are genuinely a Christian or a conservative (even though one may claim to be for election purposes) are actually doing the right thing.

And once the tide of Americans’ opinions breach that 51% mark of being pro-homosexual, pro-abortion, pro-cradle-to-grave government dependence, then you can expect to see less (if any) viable presidential candidates running on a conservative platform because politicians will always cater to the majority in order to win votes. (A rather ominous conundrum democracy inevitably births which is why democracies are always temporary.)


2). What exactly are you hoping to accomplish by voting for the lesser of two evils?

Do you vote for the lesser of two evils in the hopes to either have a little morality pumped back into society or at least to slow the rapid descent of moral decline? Those are commendable ambitions, but can you really rely on worldly means (e.g. presidential candidate, political process, government, etc.) to accomplish such lofty and noble spiritual goals? And to what end? What is the logical conclusion of that expectation? Do you hope to see a moralistic utopia where no one steals, lies, or spits on the sidewalk, but where most people still go to Hell because they are self-righteous and believe that they’re morally good enough to earn God’s approval? This may not be your intended outcome, but you know that it is the inevitable result when any worldly government attempts to legislate morality sans Christ.

To put that much stock in (and ultimately, that much responsibility on) a government or on the shoulders of a president is to forget how depraved the human heart really is. If your theory was possible, then to fix the ills of the world God could have made Noah president instead of covering it with water.

In the past 30 years we’ve had pro-life presidents in office on several occasions, but abortions are still legal and still going strong. In the past 30 years we’ve had conservative presidents in office on several occasions, yet we’re not too far off from homosexual marriage being legal. And for the past 30 years every president we’ve had has been a professing Christian (even our current one) yet, the government is still growing bigger and the runaway train of moral depravity continues to barrel down the greased tracks unabated.

By voting for the lesser of the two evils are you expecting to see a few less homosexual unions? A few less abortions? A few less of this moral ill or that moral ill?

Do you really think that an unregenerate man or woman elected to a worldly political office is going to stem the tide of sin’s downward spiral in this nation? When you compare the current state of our once great country with the road to wrath in Romans, you may come to the conclusion, as John MacArthur has, that this nation has already been abandoned by God.

3). What is our example from those in the New Testament Church concerning our involvement in politics?

Are we supposed to be more concerned with spiritual matters or earthly matters?

As a Roman citizen, can you honestly envision the Apostle Paul “voting” for the lesser of two evils; which Caesar he thought would be more moral than another? (Yes, I know, Rome wasn’t a democracy, but you get my point.)

It is becoming increasingly apparent (to me at least) that Christians in America are too caught up, are too distracted, and are too preoccupied with worldly political matters, and all of this is at the expense of the sharing of the gospel.

Perhaps we need to get more serious about the souls that are perishing all around us. Christ didn’t command us to elect politicians, but He did command us to make disciples. And how much more difficult that task becomes when–before a word is ever spoken–we alienate others by the political bumper stickers that placard our cars and the campaign signs that litter our yards.

The gospel we live and die for should be the stumbling block to our family, friends, and neighbors, not our political leanings and affiliations. Unfortunately too many of us are known more by our politics than by our Christianity.

How many opportunities have been lost over arguing politics with someone when that person needed to hear about Christ? I have been so guilty of this, and I painfully regret those many lost opportunities that can never be recovered.

4). Is getting an immoral, socialist, anti-Christian president a bad thing?

As American Christians we’ve become accustomed to our prosperous and secure lifestyle, a lifestyle foreign to Christians throughout church history (and equally foreign to those Christians today who don’t live in the West) but so commonly taken for granted by us.

Do you vote for the candidate that will best help you to achieve the American dream or preserve your current prosperous economic status? If so, I have to ask a serious question of you: Has the American dream been a help or a hindrance to your faith?

We would do good to remember this lesson from history:

Beware that you do not forget the LORD your God by not keeping His commandments and His ordinances and His statutes which I am commanding you today; otherwise, when you have eaten and are satisfied, and have built good houses and lived in them, and when your herds and your flocks multiply, and your silver and gold multiply, and all that you have multiplies, then your heart will become proud and you will forget the LORD your God who brought you out from the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. – Deuteronomy 8:11-14

If our true passion is to see souls come into the Kingdom, then we should be less concerned with achieving the American dream, increasing our financial prosperity, and righting the moral ills in the world, and instead we should be more focused on devoting our lives fully to preaching Christ and Him crucified.

If making disciples is one of our primary purposes for existence, then why are we so preoccupied with building a happy, safe, comfortable, economically prosperous life, and exerting so much time and effort in electing men and women to political positions that will assist us in maintaining our desired lifestyles?

You may argue: “But if a really evil president gets elected and outlaws Christianity, then what?” Well, if he were to outlaw what has come to be known as “Christianity” in America (better known as Churchianity or Moralistic Therapeutic Deism), then how is that a bad thing?

“But what if true Christians begin getting persecuted?” you ask.

When we look at the explosive growth of the underground churches in countries like China, Vietnam, Iraq, Cuba, etc. and then compare that to the current state of the visible mile-wide, inch-deep, man-centered, program-driven church in America, then I have to suggest that maybe, just maybe, a president that is bad for the country might actually be good for the church. (And I won’t even delve into the fact that God gives nations the leaders they deserve; that’s another whole issue.)

The inconvenient truth is that the church suffers when its people get comfortable, but it flourishes under pressure, trials, and persecution. The more intense the persecution is, the better the health of the church is. And if the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church, then the luxury and security of the churchgoer is certainly the death of it.
Click to expand...

Sorry, it is not POSSIBLE--the way our voting system is set up---to "sit out" and think your "sitting out" is not, IN ITSELF, having an effect on the outcome.

To NOT vote is STILL to make a decision--especially when the choice between two candidates is close.

You are NOT choosing a CHURCH LEADER here----you are choosing between (at worst) Simon Legree on one side, and the composite of Hitler/Stalin/Marx/Lenin/Mao ze-Dong/ and the Khmer Rouge on the other.

If you can not see which is a "less evil" choice---there is no hope for you.

But be ASSURED-----to NOT vote at all, because "Jesus" isn't running, is to vote FOR Barack Hussein Obama.

So don't sit there and get a broken arm patting yourself on the back for your self-righteousness.

THE ONLY THING NECESSARY FOR THE TRIUMPH OF EVIL IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING.
 
AzProtector

AzProtector

Veteran Member
Kadosh said:
Well, here comes the love...huh? Ender: I hope you're not saying that I must be sinless to attempt to point out the error of another. If that's the case, we're all pretty much doomed. Dennis: Perhaps I am ignorant of your beliefs. Rather than name-calling, how about educating me? Or is that not "your way"?
Click to expand...

Nevermind,

OP, sorry for participating in the hijack.
 
Last edited:
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
_______________
Oh, I'll vote for sure. For RP as a write-in. And millions of other disenfranchised AMERICAN PATRIOTS will do the same.
 
Kadosh

Kadosh

Inactive
AzProtector said:
Listen up Junior.
There are few things that piss me off more than idjits like you trying to start sh_t with/about LDS folks.
Why? Because the majority won't come out and defend themselves, and frankly, some of the most prolific posters here ARE LDS and this forum gets a lot of value from their presence.
To Enders point, they live Christianity like I imagine it should be lived....I have many, many friends who are LDS are they, Kadosh, are 10 times the person you will ever be.
Click to expand...
First, son, you don't know me. Second, personal attacks are always the first sign of a failed argument.
 
Kadosh

Kadosh

Inactive
Dennis Olson said:
So is ignorance Kadosh.
Click to expand...
Yes, sir. But ignorance can be cured. I've been wrong before. I've been schooled. I've been convinced of the error of my ways. I just won't waste my time with anyone who would rather belittle than to carry on rational, meaningful discourse. My post was an invitation to engage in that discourse (albeit ill located).
 
Kathy in FL

Kathy in FL

Administrator
_______________
Dennis Olson said:
Oh, I'll vote for sure. For RP as a write-in. And millions of other disenfranchised AMERICAN PATRIOTS will do the same.
Click to expand...

Not sure about that Dennis. I'm not knocking Dr. Paul but I'm already hearing from some of his supporters that they feel betrayed. It is like he is dropping out of the race without really coming right out and saying it. They know the man is 76 years old and if he was ever going to be president then this was the last chance for it. Dr. Paul has been a politician for over 30 years, perhaps 40 at this point. He has been in office a long, long time. Let's hope he doesn't get the reputation of some of the other long term serving politicians that hang around even when they'd be more constructive and effective if they retired from office.

I do think Dr. Paul is positioning for his son to take on the battle. But I don't think Rand Paul completely agrees with all of his father's stances otherwise he would have aligned himself much more closely than he did. Rand Paul is a tea partier, not a Paul partier.

Dr. Paul had a chance in the beginning but there are too many things on the world stage that have highlighted his foreign policies and I don't think everyone is totally secure giving him a chance at this time ... especially if the dollar strengthens at all prior to the upcoming election. There will be those that just won't want to take a chance on him. If he had been able to keep the narrative on the domestic/financial side of things his tactic might have worked but his campaign wasn't able to pull that off.
 
Countrymouse

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Kadosh said:
Are you saying that the only alternative to doing "nothing" is to vote? I beg to differ.
Click to expand...

You are living in a dream world.

If Ron Paul has NO hope of winning, or if he isn't even on the ballot, and you write in his name anyway, YOU ARE THROWING AWAY YOUR VOTE AND YOU ARE THEREFORE VOTING FOR OBAMA TO WIN!!!!!!!

Yes, I'm in the "anybody is better than Obama" camp---if you are not, and cannot see the difference between a homosexual, murdering, muslim, COMMUNIST who wants to destroy this country, and a man who is a least an adherent of our CAPITALIST economic system and who at least appears to believe in our CONSTITUTION----then as I said there is no hope for you.

And THIS is another reason why I am against Ron Paul--I'm going to go ahead and say it (even if I have half the board here mad at me). His followers seem to WORSHIP the man--just as surely as Obamabots worship Obama. They talk about the man like he is absolutely PERFECT and SINLESS. I think you must have him confused with Jesus Christ, because HE is the ONLY one who fits that definition. It is that fanaticism---talking about the man like he's the ONLY righteous man walking the earth and everything he says is ex-cathedra from the mouth of God Himself, that gives me the willies about joining that camp. I don't believe in worshiping ANY man except Jesus Christ.

Ron Paul is NOT Jesus Christ.

And as I said above, God is NOT limited by who WE elect----HE CAN WORK THROUGH ANYONE, and HAS WORKED through even pagan, evil rulers in the past. That said, we do still get the kind of leaders we deserve---how much more so in a country where we CHOOSE them.

So you're saying that to choose a man who at least claims to respect Jesus Christ--though he doesn't worship him or see him as God as we Christians do---is WORSE (or at least not better) than a man who openly blasphemes our Lord, not only favors but does all in his power to PROMOTE the murder of children in abortion (you DO know about that $1 MANDATORY abortion fee you're going to have to pay on your Obama-care that goes SOLELY toward abortion coverage, don't you?), who downgrades Christianity at every turn but uplifts and supports the UTTERLY godless 'religion' of Islam, whose only TRUE religion is Marxism (and how many of our Christian brothers and sisters has communism killed and is still killing around the world?), who openly promotes the abomination of homosexuality, who has been reported to himself be a homosexual, who had his former homosexual lovers (and anyone who speaks out against or threatens him---think Andrew Breitbart) MURDERED----

YOU ARE SAYING THIS MAN IS NOT BETTER THAN OBAMA?????

THINK, for God's sake! THINK!!!
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
_______________
I'm actually in full understanding of the ABO position. It's perfectly logical. It's just that I CANNOT make myself vote for scum, regardless of if it's "their scum" or "our scum." I signed off that meme in 2004, and can never go back. I just can't do it. Sorry...
 
Palmetto

Palmetto

Son, Husband, Father
Dennis Olson said:
Oh, I'll vote for sure. For RP as a write-in. And millions of other disenfranchised AMERICAN PATRIOTS will do the same.
Click to expand...

I will speculate that, due to millions voting like the above, Romney wins the EC but Soeroto wins the popular vote by 6-10 million.

We will have a true crisis.

Google Rali Odinga (Soetoro's cousin) and see the results of his loss in Kenya.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raila_Odinga

Not blaming anyone who votes their conscience. I, for one, will never vote against my conscience again. Just speculating about the result.

Palmetto

Palmetto
 
AzProtector

AzProtector

Veteran Member
BS.
You got called out on your bigotry and now you're trying to walk it back.
Kadosh said:
Yes, sir. But ignorance can be cured. I've been wrong before. I've been schooled. I've been convinced of the error of my ways. I just won't waste my time with anyone who would rather belittle than to carry on rational, meaningful discourse. My post was an invitation to engage in that discourse (albeit ill located).
Click to expand...
 
Countrymouse

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Palmetto said:
I will speculate that, due to millions voting like the above, Romney wins the EC but Soeroto wins the popular vote by 6-10 million.

We will have a true crisis.

Google Rali Odinga (Soetoro's cousin) and see the results of his loss in Kenya.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raila_Odinga

Not blaming anyone who votes their conscience. I, for one, will never vote against my conscience again. Just speculating about the result.

Palmetto

Palmetto
Click to expand...

Wouldn't surprise me a bit if that happens, Palmetto.

And then the hue and cry will be raised to throw the Constitution out the window and forget about what it says about the "electoral college" and just go PURE democracy---like ancient Greece.

Like homeosexual, idol-ridden, utterly pagan, baby-murdering, old- and infirm- and handicapped-murdering, duplicitous, divided, eventually to fail from the rotteness-within ancient Greece.

I see this election as America's last stand.

If Obama wins, America is DEAD.

And---in my book---everyone who did anything that HELPED Obama win---no matter WHAT your motives---will be guilty of helping kill her.

That's where I stand---and I can't help that either.
 
Kadosh

Kadosh

Inactive
Countrymouse said:
If Obama wins, America is DEAD.

And---in my book---everyone who did anything that HELPED Obama win---no matter WHAT your motives---will be guilty of helping kill her.

That's where I stand---and I can't help that either.
Click to expand...
America will get what America deserves. No more...no less. There's a high price to pay for the shedding of innocent blood. We're gonna pay!
 
Kathy in FL

Kathy in FL

Administrator
_______________
Kadosh said:
America will get what America deserves. No more...no less. There's a high price to pay for the shedding of innocent blood. We're gonna pay!
Click to expand...

Actually that isn't true if you look at how God historically and Biblically handled the Hebrews/Israel. There is a lot of variation and purpose in God's choice for those that He places in authority over us. There is only one area that we are supposed to hold back our obedience in, regardless of who the earthly authority is, and that is if it impedes our ability to worship Him. Each person will have to decide what that means for them, but in deciding (or not) they have to accept the consequences of it. You can't blow it off and make it someone else's fault or the cause of your decision and action.

Vote or don't vote. Vote for one person or the other. No matter how you cut it YOUR choice will always come home to roost in the form of consequences and we will be answerable for it on Judgment Day ... and best intentions won't cut it if we make the wrong choice.
 
WildDaisy

WildDaisy

God has a plan, Trust it!
undead said:
hmmmm, and the delegates he needs are more than a thousand, so even if adding ALL of of Santorum's and ALL of Gingrich's, it gets him ...?
Click to expand...

You are assuming that all of the delegates that others "won" through the primaries are actually voting for the person who won the popular vote at the primary. As history should teach you, don't count all your chickens until they are hatched. There are many delegates that he has already that even though their state voted for Romney, will not be casting their delegate vote at the caucus for Romney.

Just because Romney's "assumed totals" for delegates is stated, they are not obligated in many states to vote for him. Delegate count during the primaries can be a very different cant than what is cast at the caucus.
 
danielboon

danielboon

TB Fanatic
ok here is the deal God will choose (allow)who He wants to be running things.we may not agree on it . but what choice do we have? this 2 Chronicles Chapter 7 14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. tearing each other up is just what the devil wants.Matthew 12:25
And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom DIVIDED AGAINST itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house DIVIDED AGAINST itself shall not stand:Luke 18:8
I tell you that HE WILL avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall HE FIND FAITH on the earth?
 
shinerbock

shinerbock

Innocent Bystander
The Devotion of RP's Supporters on This Forum is Remarkable, Even Admirable

but frankly @ this stage of the contest to believe that Paul has a secret "Warren Harding" plan to hoodwink hundreds of establishment GOP activists is naive in the extreme. That there ship has sailed, the party's over, fill in the blank with yet another cliche ______________________. If willfulness and dedication were the foremost determinants in a complex political scenario involving millions of voters, Paul would not be "suspending his efforts" in the final primaries to be held.

As for the email, Twitters and admonishments by local RP aides and workers to the effect that he didn't really mean what he said today and that RP will continue to be the stealth candidate who has a date with destiny in Tampa come August is just plain puzzling. I kind of expect that on election night RP supporters will be watching the states being called in a state of high expectation. It is an interesting phenomenom to say the least.

The reports of his more grounded followers experiencing betrayal after today's announcement is evidently the first stage of several we will witness as the ideal returns to reality and the healthy response should be returning to normalcy once denial, betrayal and anger finally succumb to acceptance and release from this crusade.
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
_______________
"Normalcy" being voting for scum yet again? Thanks. I'll pass.


I have no illusions as to RP's chances, secret "whatevers" or the like. I just can't and WON'T pull the lever for scum. Of either "mainstream party". Never again.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top