Chair Warmer
Membership Revoked
Women are called to submit honey to do list to their husband...
Then pray...
Pray hard!!!
who knows? sometimes miracles happen!
Then pray...
Pray hard!!!
who knows? sometimes miracles happen!
SOFT NEWS The Dominance of the Godless American Woman and the Fall of America
- Thread starter DennisRGH
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China Connection
TB Fanatic
A load of rubbish as men in power have nurtured the women that we have today through the media and education and granting of job positions. So women have become what those in power wanted. Those in power are not Christian by any means.
The other thing is that in general women here say in Asia study harder and work harder in general than men. Nowadays women have become career minded. Before men with money and position in the workforce would often stray (Have affairs despite being married) The wife becomes moody and doesn't take care of her body then men tend to stray when offered the chance. Now women are in the workforce and behave just the same as men under the same conditions.
The other thing is that people mainly live in big cities now. In a small community people behave better as everybody knows everyone. In big cities most have a small circle of friends so there is less change of being caught if you play around than in the past.
Now lets get to another point; say in Thailand a young woman or old for that matter earns about $1 for ten hours of hard work or something like $65 for one or two hours of sex less expenses. So that is why nearly all young women from poor families there are working in the sex industry. Many young ladies have sex with bosses just to keep their jobs in factories etc. Anyway men are prepared to pay a lot more for sex than hard work.
So if a woman has to have sex to earn more than starvation wages then if is little wonder that she will turn out to be a bitch if she starts up her own business and is successful.
Most of my female students but just want a normal life with a good husband here in China. A surprising number but are not interested in men at all.
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The other thing is that in general women here say in Asia study harder and work harder in general than men. Nowadays women have become career minded. Before men with money and position in the workforce would often stray (Have affairs despite being married) The wife becomes moody and doesn't take care of her body then men tend to stray when offered the chance. Now women are in the workforce and behave just the same as men under the same conditions.
The other thing is that people mainly live in big cities now. In a small community people behave better as everybody knows everyone. In big cities most have a small circle of friends so there is less change of being caught if you play around than in the past.
Now lets get to another point; say in Thailand a young woman or old for that matter earns about $1 for ten hours of hard work or something like $65 for one or two hours of sex less expenses. So that is why nearly all young women from poor families there are working in the sex industry. Many young ladies have sex with bosses just to keep their jobs in factories etc. Anyway men are prepared to pay a lot more for sex than hard work.
So if a woman has to have sex to earn more than starvation wages then if is little wonder that she will turn out to be a bitch if she starts up her own business and is successful.
Most of my female students but just want a normal life with a good husband here in China. A surprising number but are not interested in men at all.
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This is never going to stop. Well at least not until we wimens agree that the only words we will utter are Yes Sir and how high. Until we agree that our only priorities are cooking, cleaning, raising and home educating our kids and knitting mittens, all while finding a way to supplement the mans income.
Oh lets not forget that we are also responsible for all the womanly men who can't function on their own morals without us dangling the desire for sex in front of them to make them behave to our standards.
Last but not least we have to accept the responsibility for the entire down fall of civilization since Eve.
Only then we we see an end this boat load of crap.
jed turtle
a brother in the Lord
from the OP:
this is a correct observation. communist infiltrators took over the teaching colleges from whence we derive our college professors and public school teachers. it is there that one would find the means of taking over a country and subverting it within just a few generations.
this is a correct observation. communist infiltrators took over the teaching colleges from whence we derive our college professors and public school teachers. it is there that one would find the means of taking over a country and subverting it within just a few generations.
Old Gray Mare
TB Fanatic
The government is paying its most productive citizens notto raise more productive citizens
Now 18+ year olds of both sexes get out into the world and are told they need to spend more years in school to ensure they can get a job that pays enough to get married and raise a family. If they want to "get ahead" this delays child bearing.
This generation is not stupid. They realize that if they get married, get a job and attempt to raise a family they are going to be severely penalized in taxes used to subsidize welfare mothers who the government pays to have kids. Why should they work that hard to raise other people's kids at the expense of what they are able to provide for their own children?
In most cases today both parents have to work, sometimes 2, 3 jobs or more to support themselves and their kids. They don't have much time with their kids because many have to pay someone else to raise them. When they are with them they are too tired or don't have the money to do anything. Lack of money and energy further helps to limit the number of children per non-Welfare subsidized families.
A woman has to be responsible for herself and her children if her husband dies, skips out, is disabled, an addict (alcohol, drugs, gambling, whatever) or just decides to let her work. This is nothing new. Anyone who thinks women have not historically worked as hard as men should read about the lives of pioneer mothers and daughters, Sojourner Truth and Harriet Tubman.
In most cases both parents have to work in order to raise the family or take a bad hit in the quality of life department. IMHO this is due to governmental policies of the last two or three generations since being taking off the gold and silver standard forcing parents into a constant rat race with inflation.
The courts impose laws forbidding parents from disciplining their children, the government is taking away the ability to instill responsibility in children with acts like the one prohibiting children from working on farms so when the kids reach 18 they are still mentally children lacking in the discipline, responsibility and maturity needed for true adulthood. Now these "adults" with the mental and financial expectations of children, not true adults, are supposed to have the maturity to enable them to commit to a lasting marriage and raise the number of responsible, productive children needed to support and perpetuate the present system? Good luck with that.
When children were unpaid farm help or expected to apprentice in and take over the family business and care for their parents in their old age children were a necessity. Today children have become a liability and luxury to the working class. Financially the middle class currently gets a much better return and quality of life by investing in their retirement rather than investing in having and raising children. Hence the government is in effect paying its most productive citizens not to raise more productive citizens.
IMHO it is not Godless women that are at fault here. It is the fault of a Godless, corrupt, self serving government. Tolerating such a government is the fault and responsibility of all of us being governed. By its very nature this model is not sustainable and will eventually fall of its own weight. The true questions are when will it fall and how much damage will be done when it does?
Given the impositions and barriers to marriage society and government put on the sacrament of marriage is it surprising that many men have no desire to marry? Why is it surprising to anyone women are putting off marring and raising a family until they are past the most productive and fertile years of their lives even though God has hard wired us to have and raise kids?
Now 18+ year olds of both sexes get out into the world and are told they need to spend more years in school to ensure they can get a job that pays enough to get married and raise a family. If they want to "get ahead" this delays child bearing.
This generation is not stupid. They realize that if they get married, get a job and attempt to raise a family they are going to be severely penalized in taxes used to subsidize welfare mothers who the government pays to have kids. Why should they work that hard to raise other people's kids at the expense of what they are able to provide for their own children?
In most cases today both parents have to work, sometimes 2, 3 jobs or more to support themselves and their kids. They don't have much time with their kids because many have to pay someone else to raise them. When they are with them they are too tired or don't have the money to do anything. Lack of money and energy further helps to limit the number of children per non-Welfare subsidized families.
A woman has to be responsible for herself and her children if her husband dies, skips out, is disabled, an addict (alcohol, drugs, gambling, whatever) or just decides to let her work. This is nothing new. Anyone who thinks women have not historically worked as hard as men should read about the lives of pioneer mothers and daughters, Sojourner Truth and Harriet Tubman.
In most cases both parents have to work in order to raise the family or take a bad hit in the quality of life department. IMHO this is due to governmental policies of the last two or three generations since being taking off the gold and silver standard forcing parents into a constant rat race with inflation.
The courts impose laws forbidding parents from disciplining their children, the government is taking away the ability to instill responsibility in children with acts like the one prohibiting children from working on farms so when the kids reach 18 they are still mentally children lacking in the discipline, responsibility and maturity needed for true adulthood. Now these "adults" with the mental and financial expectations of children, not true adults, are supposed to have the maturity to enable them to commit to a lasting marriage and raise the number of responsible, productive children needed to support and perpetuate the present system? Good luck with that.
When children were unpaid farm help or expected to apprentice in and take over the family business and care for their parents in their old age children were a necessity. Today children have become a liability and luxury to the working class. Financially the middle class currently gets a much better return and quality of life by investing in their retirement rather than investing in having and raising children. Hence the government is in effect paying its most productive citizens not to raise more productive citizens.
IMHO it is not Godless women that are at fault here. It is the fault of a Godless, corrupt, self serving government. Tolerating such a government is the fault and responsibility of all of us being governed. By its very nature this model is not sustainable and will eventually fall of its own weight. The true questions are when will it fall and how much damage will be done when it does?
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gawarriorqueen
WWG1WGA
Since the sixties, the women of American have become heavily indoctrinated by secularism and they have changed dramatically into godless, licentious, narcissistic, angry and lewd individuals.
Painting with kind of a broad brush there, aren't you? Do you believe ALL women are as you describe? Your Mom? Grandmother? Sister? Wife? If you do, then the problem is most likely on your shoulders rather than every woman in the world.
Painting with kind of a broad brush there, aren't you? Do you believe ALL women are as you describe? Your Mom? Grandmother? Sister? Wife? If you do, then the problem is most likely on your shoulders rather than every woman in the world.
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Once more religion is being used to blame women. Someone's version of religion, is used to put women in "their place", as defined by that person's view of the world.
I was hoping in 2012, that being true to myself was more important than being a "stereotypical" women. Or man for that matter. I think that is better for a person's mental health. Ok it does require a person to responsible, to not cause problems for others, to not mess with the lives of other people, and so on. Well that is a whole 'nutehr story.
IMO, if a woman wants to CEO, and a man wants to stay home looking after kids, I would hope in 2012, everyone would respect their decisions, and not interfere with *their* choices. Their lives, their choices! Provided those choices, do not impact anyone else's life, leave them be.
Unfortunately with all the TV shows, where people air their dirty laundry in public. Ring a radio stations, and let us know your opinion. Comment on a the internet.... Minding your business, seems to be the last thing that is going to happen.
Someone, who was very wise, IMO, said if you point a finger at someone else, and say "It is your fault". Just remember there are 3 fingers pointing back at you.
So where does the blame really lie?
Anrol
I was hoping in 2012, that being true to myself was more important than being a "stereotypical" women. Or man for that matter. I think that is better for a person's mental health. Ok it does require a person to responsible, to not cause problems for others, to not mess with the lives of other people, and so on. Well that is a whole 'nutehr story.
IMO, if a woman wants to CEO, and a man wants to stay home looking after kids, I would hope in 2012, everyone would respect their decisions, and not interfere with *their* choices. Their lives, their choices! Provided those choices, do not impact anyone else's life, leave them be.
Unfortunately with all the TV shows, where people air their dirty laundry in public. Ring a radio stations, and let us know your opinion. Comment on a the internet.... Minding your business, seems to be the last thing that is going to happen.
Someone, who was very wise, IMO, said if you point a finger at someone else, and say "It is your fault". Just remember there are 3 fingers pointing back at you.
So where does the blame really lie?
Anrol
Peregrinus
Inactive
I try to avoid these discussions but this on got me. There is a deference between living the scriptures and and quoting a bunch of bible chapter and verse numbers. Oh yea I'm mad at some of hollywood and I am really angry with the wacko feminist. (the key word here is wacko) As the story goes the jews were trying to trap Jesus with the law when Jesus responded “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” John 8:7. People who are bent on evil will often use groups or causes to further their agendas. In the case of John 8:7 it was a women who was of a certain profession if I recall correctly. These people have a way of showing up on both sides of the struggle of good against evil. That's a fight we are all in and we all change sides from time to time. As a real man I am responsible for my short comings in that fight, not some women. Not my girlfriends, not my wife, not my daughter and here I wish the author could pay close attention to this, definitely not my or his mothers or grandmothers. On top of that, Honestly I have never and I do mean never, herd a Christian say “My dear friend, Satan”. What ever is wrong with this guy I sure hope he figures it out and gets help for it fast. After all it maybe more sickness then sin.
Flippper
Time Traveler
Woman, man, undecided, it's the "Godless" part that is the problem, not the sex or lack thereof. When God was central to our nation and it's peoples, we prospered and enjoyed lives kings of old could only dream of. Since we've booted God out, especially since the banning of prayer in public schools, our nation has decayed more every year, along with the insults to God compounding as time passes.
It has nothing to do with women or men, it's a God thing.
It has nothing to do with women or men, it's a God thing.
Chair Warmer
Membership Revoked
...to those dismissing the example of forgiveness in scriptures.
Who did Jesus plead the Father to forgive as He died on the cross? (murderer/thief?)
And you have no issues with that, only when He forgave a woman?
Who did Jesus plead the Father to forgive as He died on the cross? (murderer/thief?)
And you have no issues with that, only when He forgave a woman?
willowlady
Veteran Member
You recall incorrectly. The Bible says:
New Living Translation (©2007)
"The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group. " Teacher," they said to Jesus, "this woman was caught in the act of adultery."" In no way does the Bible state she was a prostitute. She MAY have been such, but she may have been any other type of female, as well. Maybe just cheating on her husband, maybe sex before marriage, the Bible does not specify. At least, it doesn't in John.
China Connection
TB Fanatic
As I said above there are not too many these days that have a fully natural sexual life by bible standards. We are talking about the safety of children here in a social club for boys. It is necessary to watch carefully staff that are employed in such settings but pointing the finger and guess working with nothing to support any of your assumptions is stupidity in today's society.
We learn not; but instead lay the blame; removing responsibility for our behaviors. Ages old epiphanies are often buried because $ is valued far greater than wisdom.
I watched a man get out of his car the other day; in the parking lot at the baseball field, and asked if I was related to someone. He parked behind my car in the lane and wanted to know if it was ok for temporary purposes. This is the same man; who not more than a year ago, I confronted because he coached a team and tried to prevent a few players from being on the field because they had never been on his team instead of utilizing every player's abilities all for his ego. I realized he didn't recognize me. He didn't remember the problem from last year. I began to recall what I had learned about the differences in men and women. For men; It was the past. It had nothing to do with the present and thus forgotten. Then that same day, I was approached by my daughter's team mom who is the coach's wife. We opted out of concession stand duty this year because things were up in the air as far as scheduling was concerned. She wrote us down for concession stand duty behind our backs even though we politely told her twice that we were opting out. Then a few days later; during my daughter's game, she called us and lied to us, by telling us the concession stand was needing people desperately. We were standing in the concession stand; when we took the call, talking to the one in charge of it who was actually running people out because they had more help than they needed. We told her we didn't appreciate being lied to. As if this wasn't enough; She then turned to the president of the league and demanded that "her" team go out side of the league and get another photographer to take team pictures. We do the team pics. up there. We split cost to help out this small league. We did not ask for anything else in return just enough money to keep our camera equipment functioning. The rest of the money went to the league. So in effect she tried to remove our rights to opt out, then tried to attack us monetarily and did not take the time to research. Had she done so she would have found out that she was in fact not attacking us but instead attacking the league. All this because she took something that was business and made it personal. She wouldn't let this stupid thing about the concession stand go. She was on an ego trip. She had no problem removing someone's rights and forcing them to do something against their will when it served her purpose; as it's taught in public school, and when she couldn't it was a burden to her. What does this indicate? Women will more often than not scheme, go behind peoples back, lie as it suits their purpose, take things to a personal level, and can not let percieved issues go. This is just one example of the average man and woman behaving in an average way that I observe day to day. Seeing the many facets of mankind, I simply stand back and watch these imbeciles make fools of them selves thinking that they have accomplished something when in fact the only thing they have accomplished is making themselves look bad.
We choose to blind ourselves from the truth; that everything is a card to be played and with every card there is protagonist and an antagonist. The antagonists and protagonists change as society changes but the game and the rules are the same. Every one will eventually play the protagonist and every one will play the antagonists and in this way every one is a pawn. The trick is recognizing the many facets of the game and not playing it by their rules. The problem is everyone is so involved;up to their eyeballs, that they can not separate themselves enough to step out the rabbit hole and identify the individual brush strokes and colors that make up the whole picture. If you think, that the carefully crafted antagonist and the protagonists tool is a modern instrument; limited to race, religion, to immigrants, to sexual preferences and not gender then you have been in side the hole; for far too long, looking out rather than the outside looking in. The only reason why eyes are being opened to Bobo's socialists ideals is because his protagonist, antagonist cards have become too obvious for the sheeples to ignore.
As for men, not women, run countries....those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it and the blame card is such an effective antagonist, protagonist tool............
I watched a man get out of his car the other day; in the parking lot at the baseball field, and asked if I was related to someone. He parked behind my car in the lane and wanted to know if it was ok for temporary purposes. This is the same man; who not more than a year ago, I confronted because he coached a team and tried to prevent a few players from being on the field because they had never been on his team instead of utilizing every player's abilities all for his ego. I realized he didn't recognize me. He didn't remember the problem from last year. I began to recall what I had learned about the differences in men and women. For men; It was the past. It had nothing to do with the present and thus forgotten. Then that same day, I was approached by my daughter's team mom who is the coach's wife. We opted out of concession stand duty this year because things were up in the air as far as scheduling was concerned. She wrote us down for concession stand duty behind our backs even though we politely told her twice that we were opting out. Then a few days later; during my daughter's game, she called us and lied to us, by telling us the concession stand was needing people desperately. We were standing in the concession stand; when we took the call, talking to the one in charge of it who was actually running people out because they had more help than they needed. We told her we didn't appreciate being lied to. As if this wasn't enough; She then turned to the president of the league and demanded that "her" team go out side of the league and get another photographer to take team pictures. We do the team pics. up there. We split cost to help out this small league. We did not ask for anything else in return just enough money to keep our camera equipment functioning. The rest of the money went to the league. So in effect she tried to remove our rights to opt out, then tried to attack us monetarily and did not take the time to research. Had she done so she would have found out that she was in fact not attacking us but instead attacking the league. All this because she took something that was business and made it personal. She wouldn't let this stupid thing about the concession stand go. She was on an ego trip. She had no problem removing someone's rights and forcing them to do something against their will when it served her purpose; as it's taught in public school, and when she couldn't it was a burden to her. What does this indicate? Women will more often than not scheme, go behind peoples back, lie as it suits their purpose, take things to a personal level, and can not let percieved issues go. This is just one example of the average man and woman behaving in an average way that I observe day to day. Seeing the many facets of mankind, I simply stand back and watch these imbeciles make fools of them selves thinking that they have accomplished something when in fact the only thing they have accomplished is making themselves look bad.
We choose to blind ourselves from the truth; that everything is a card to be played and with every card there is protagonist and an antagonist. The antagonists and protagonists change as society changes but the game and the rules are the same. Every one will eventually play the protagonist and every one will play the antagonists and in this way every one is a pawn. The trick is recognizing the many facets of the game and not playing it by their rules. The problem is everyone is so involved;up to their eyeballs, that they can not separate themselves enough to step out the rabbit hole and identify the individual brush strokes and colors that make up the whole picture. If you think, that the carefully crafted antagonist and the protagonists tool is a modern instrument; limited to race, religion, to immigrants, to sexual preferences and not gender then you have been in side the hole; for far too long, looking out rather than the outside looking in. The only reason why eyes are being opened to Bobo's socialists ideals is because his protagonist, antagonist cards have become too obvious for the sheeples to ignore.
As for men, not women, run countries....those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it and the blame card is such an effective antagonist, protagonist tool............
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lisa
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knepper
Veteran Member
Obviously, many women are feeling personally attacked by the OP. But Satan, like God, is neither male nor female. And he is the one who instigated the rebellion against God and God's natural order of the universe. Feminism is just one incarnation of this rebellion (marxism is another), but it is a particularly insidious one, because it eats away at the most basic institution of society, even more basic than government--marriage and the family. God created man to be the head of the home. That does not mean he is superior, as in more valuable than the woman. Only that he is to be the captain, and she the First Mate. You can rail against that if you want, and our society is in full rebellion against it (try to find any TV sitcom these days portraying a normal family), but that doesn't change it.
"...Satan, like God, is neither male nor female. And he is the one who instigated the rebellion against God and God's natural order of the universe. Feminism is just one incarnation of this rebellion (marxism is another), but it is a particularly insidious one, because it eats away at the most basic institution of society, even more basic than government--marriage and the family. God created man to be the head of the home. That does not mean he is superior, as in more valuable than the woman. Only that he is to be the captain, and she the First Mate."
That^^^, I agree with. Meanwhile, Satan is looking at men and women, and delighting that his game of "let's you and him (her) fight" is going so well.
There are few things on earth stronger than the marriage of a godly man and a godly woman. My objection to the OP was that the premise that "everything wrong on earth is the sole fault of godless women, and godless men are at fault for nothing" is a lie.
That^^^, I agree with. Meanwhile, Satan is looking at men and women, and delighting that his game of "let's you and him (her) fight" is going so well.
There are few things on earth stronger than the marriage of a godly man and a godly woman. My objection to the OP was that the premise that "everything wrong on earth is the sole fault of godless women, and godless men are at fault for nothing" is a lie.
Flashyzipp
Veteran Member
I think he also needs to write about Godless American men Enough said . . . made me wanna puke.
Absolutely. When I read the OP, the first thought that went through my mind was, "This could have been written by the Taliban." Then I read CM's post. And I realized that Cardinal was right, that the author made some valid points, which were obscured by his terrible writing style. CM reiterated those points in a much more easily read way.
Actually, many on this thread (on both sides of the debate) have made some great points. I thought I'd throw out a few of my own thoughts on all this. Before I begin, I feel compelled to restate that I was married for 25 years to a woman who I discovered had been a serial adulteress. How many times and for how long, I had no idea. So our marriage dissolved and I was/am left feeling at times angry and bitter. That has come out in periodic rants that have upset many women on the forum.
So, with all that in mind, where to begin? The current situation with women in general stems directly from the feminist movement. While IMO that movement had laudable goals, it was co-opted by radical Marxists and used as a conduit for indoctrination in their godless views. As successive generations of women grew up, their thought processes were "contaminated" by those Marxist/feminist beliefs and teachings. This resulted in women who wanted everything their way, and did whatever it took to achieve that goal.
Unfortunately, most women have never understood the power they wield over men through their sexuality. (Actually, women are raised in today's society almost totally immersed in sexuality, and are taught from earliest childhood to use their sexual "favors" as a weapon/lever to get what they want from men. To me, that makes many of them little more than lifelong prostitutes.) Many of today's "modern women" are the most venal, scheming, hateful of beings, having been taught that ANYTHING GOES in their quest for "self-betterment."
Women can hold grudges for 50 years or more. They revel in it, or so it seems to me. Grasping, manipulative, and borderline insane at times, they often make everyone around them miserable, and then rejoice in having done so. They use their bodies like whores to gain position or wealth. And if necessary, they'll destroy anyone in their path to do so.
Now, I'm not for an instant saying that men are any different overall, because they're not. But the DAMAGE done by these kinds of activities is far greater when done by women, again because of the power that they wield over men by virtue of their sexuality. While "men think with their dicks", women USE that against them, and to their own advantage, often destroying families in the process.
All this is why I loathe the feminist movement in this country (and western society in general) and why I use the term "feminazi" to describe them. If ever there was a "secret Nazi group" working to take over and destroy the world, these feminazis are it. I have seen first hand the damage that mindset does. Most men here (and many women) can attest to the truth of my above rant.
We can never regain the "family" until the feminist movement is eradicated, and it's teachings repudiated as the Marxist drivel that it is. But you and I know that will never happen. We're dead as a nation. We're dead as families. We older people are effectively the last generation that will have known what a "family" means. What love means. What closeness means. Today's generation is lost in meaningless "hookups" of animal lust, with zero emotional content or commitment. And they like it that way.
We've seen threads on the forum lamenting the fact that the "boys never seem to grow up to become men." Well, today's feminist woman doesn't want grown men, who believe in things, and stand for things. They WANT the emasculated little boys, because they can be easily controlled and manipulated, which is the primary requirement for a "relationship" on the part of these feminist-indoctrinated women. All they want is a "boy toy" to mount and hump when they feel their lust rising. And since men really DO tend to "think with their dick", they'll play along if they "get some."
I know that some women reading this will immediately attack me as posting yet another anti-woman rant. I reject that premise outright. I am pointing out my PoV on the OP, various comments on the thread itself, and the sorry state of men and women in western society in general, and America in particular. Any of you who attack me unfairly will have their posts removed. I'm not anti-woman (though certainly vestiges of my anger and bitterness remain, unfortunately.) I AM anti-feminist, though I believe 100% in equal rights for women. I just don't agree with today's women's methodology in getting what they think they want, at the expense of men, relationships and family...
willowlady
Veteran Member
Well said, Dennis. I'm a woman, and it appears to me a great many women in our once-great country have been systematically stripped of the ability to think. Specifically, it appears they cannot think about long-term consequences of current behaviors. A complete lack of what-if-then-this reasoning. There have been many times in my 45 year marriage when my gut was to abandon ship. But that's when the thinking came in, and the beautiful realization that there IS a higher power to which we can turn with seemingly unresolvable difficulties. Furthermore, that higher power has stepped into the fray numerous times and resolved the problem, leaving me with my mouth hanging open and the genius of the solution, and thanking Him profusely.
DennisRGH
Reset
Peregrinus.
Actually he said, " My dear friend, satan is no buffoon".
As far as the OP. Lots of truth contained in it. And Dennis gave a good summary from a mans' perspective. imo. The depravity of the culture is so in your face. It's everywhere.
Pro 7:6 For at the window of my house I looked through my casement,
Pro 7:7 And beheld among the simple ones, I discerned among the youths, a young man void of understanding,
Pro 7:8 Passing through the street near her corner; and he went the way to her house,
Pro 7:9 In the twilight, in the evening, in the black and dark night:
Pro 7:10 And, behold, there met him a woman with the attire of an harlot, and subtil of heart.
Pro 7:11 (She is loud and stubborn; her feet abide not in her house:
Pro 7:12 Now is she without, now in the streets, and lieth in wait at every corner.)
Pro 7:13 So she caught him, and kissed him, and with an impudent face said unto him,
Pro 7:14 I have peace offerings with me; this day have I payed my vows.
Pro 7:15 Therefore came I forth to meet thee, diligently to seek thy face, and I have found thee.
Pro 7:16 I have decked my bed with coverings of tapestry, with carved works, with fine linen of Egypt.
Pro 7:17 I have perfumed my bed with myrrh, aloes, and cinnamon.
Pro 7:18 Come, let us take our fill of love until the morning: let us solace ourselves with loves.
Pro 7:19 For the goodman is not at home, he is gone a long journey:
Pro 7:20 He hath taken a bag of money with him, and will come home at the day appointed.
Pro 7:21 With her much fair speech she caused him to yield, with the flattering of her lips she forced him.
Pro 7:22 He goeth after her straightway, as an ox goeth to the slaughter, or as a fool to the correction of the stocks;
Pro 7:23 Till a dart strike through his liver; as a bird hasteth to the snare, and knoweth not that it is for his life.
Pro 7:24 Hearken unto me now therefore, O ye children, and attend to the words of my mouth.
Pro 7:25 Let not thine heart decline to her ways, go not astray in her paths.
Pro 7:26 For she hath cast down many wounded: yea, many strong men have been slain by her.
Pro 7:27 Her house is the way to hell, going down to the chambers of death.
Actually he said, " My dear friend, satan is no buffoon".
As far as the OP. Lots of truth contained in it. And Dennis gave a good summary from a mans' perspective. imo. The depravity of the culture is so in your face. It's everywhere.
Pro 7:6 For at the window of my house I looked through my casement,
Pro 7:7 And beheld among the simple ones, I discerned among the youths, a young man void of understanding,
Pro 7:8 Passing through the street near her corner; and he went the way to her house,
Pro 7:9 In the twilight, in the evening, in the black and dark night:
Pro 7:10 And, behold, there met him a woman with the attire of an harlot, and subtil of heart.
Pro 7:11 (She is loud and stubborn; her feet abide not in her house:
Pro 7:12 Now is she without, now in the streets, and lieth in wait at every corner.)
Pro 7:13 So she caught him, and kissed him, and with an impudent face said unto him,
Pro 7:14 I have peace offerings with me; this day have I payed my vows.
Pro 7:15 Therefore came I forth to meet thee, diligently to seek thy face, and I have found thee.
Pro 7:16 I have decked my bed with coverings of tapestry, with carved works, with fine linen of Egypt.
Pro 7:17 I have perfumed my bed with myrrh, aloes, and cinnamon.
Pro 7:18 Come, let us take our fill of love until the morning: let us solace ourselves with loves.
Pro 7:19 For the goodman is not at home, he is gone a long journey:
Pro 7:20 He hath taken a bag of money with him, and will come home at the day appointed.
Pro 7:21 With her much fair speech she caused him to yield, with the flattering of her lips she forced him.
Pro 7:22 He goeth after her straightway, as an ox goeth to the slaughter, or as a fool to the correction of the stocks;
Pro 7:23 Till a dart strike through his liver; as a bird hasteth to the snare, and knoweth not that it is for his life.
Pro 7:24 Hearken unto me now therefore, O ye children, and attend to the words of my mouth.
Pro 7:25 Let not thine heart decline to her ways, go not astray in her paths.
Pro 7:26 For she hath cast down many wounded: yea, many strong men have been slain by her.
Pro 7:27 Her house is the way to hell, going down to the chambers of death.
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I don't see it as an anti-woman rant. There is a lot of truth to what you said. Thank you for giving your insight and guidance.
It might help some who are struggling in a relationship see what they can change.
You're especially right about women holding onto grudges. To let go of grudges takes faith and trust.
Genevieve
working on it
hummm... I'm tough, loud, mean, controlling and I'm a housewife. So sue me. lol Me and the Lord have our own thing going on, and HE loves me just the way I am. And only HE can judge me, so I don't care what one woman hating man ( did momma not hug you enough sweety? awww comeer), who wrote an artical thinks about me. I do agree that the femnazi's have made it harder on those of us with some degree of logic in our brains and some self control. It doesn't take many to screw it up for the rest of us.
I'll take the artical with a grain of salt.
I'll take the artical with a grain of salt.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Adam has been blaming God for creating that faulty woman Eve since the beginning of time.
Bla Bla Bla,
He didn't mention the "Disney Factor" or any of the other multi faceted assaults on femininity compliments of male propaganda or male created manipulation.
Most American women are juggling work with raising children, a large percentage is also taking care of their elderly parents.
Most American men are working, struggling to survive or maintain.
I hate this shit. It's demeaning and frankly lies and propaganda.
We are all individual human beings. We all struggle, most of us have a conscious, a sense of right and wrong, we spend our lives recognizing this to varying degrees.
He didn't mention the "Disney Factor" or any of the other multi faceted assaults on femininity compliments of male propaganda or male created manipulation.
Most American women are juggling work with raising children, a large percentage is also taking care of their elderly parents.
Most American men are working, struggling to survive or maintain.
I hate this shit. It's demeaning and frankly lies and propaganda.
We are all individual human beings. We all struggle, most of us have a conscious, a sense of right and wrong, we spend our lives recognizing this to varying degrees.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Standing right next to Eve when she was decieved by the serpent and then took a bite of the fruit. Also go back and REREAD Genesis and you will see that we were NOT cast out of the Garden becuase of Eve's sin, as my dad taught me, BUT because of Adam's response to God when he was questioned... it's that woman you gave me... God had already given Eve her punishment/curse.
K-
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Grudges are far more than simply "remembering." grudge holders want to make the person suffer. And suffer. And suffer. Those are the women who should be thrown under the bus and left there for the rest of their lives.
Be Well
may all be well
Dennis wrote:
The feminist movement was not co-opted by Marxist man-haters, it was started by them. Betty Friedan, the author of "The Feminine Mystique" published in the early 1960s, had been a Communist Party member and active in communist and leftist politics since her youth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Feminine_Mystique
Of course, wikipedia doesn't tell us about her Communist connections but they do include something from David Horowitz, a red diaper doper baby turned conservative:
(Who else do we know who was a "community organizer", hmmm??)
A bit more revealing info on this page, including her starting NARAL, the pro-abortion organization, and the fact that she was a communist (they say "communist cookie", I have NO idea what that means???)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_Friedan
Keywiki, the go-to place to find "the rest of the story" on leftist individuals and organizations:
http://www.keywiki.org/index.php/Betty_Friedan
Communist influence
It was discovered in the last couple of years that she was actually an official member of the CPUSA (Communist Party of the USA) but I can't find that at the moment. The reason I am citing all this stuff is because feminism started from a leftist, extreme man-hating and pro-abortion platform. Even the original feminists (note the one starting in the 60s is called "the second wave") were radicals - often socialists, advocating homosexuality, "open marriages" and the like.
The feminist movement was not co-opted by Marxist man-haters, it was started by them. Betty Friedan, the author of "The Feminine Mystique" published in the early 1960s, had been a Communist Party member and active in communist and leftist politics since her youth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Feminine_Mystique
Of course, wikipedia doesn't tell us about her Communist connections but they do include something from David Horowitz, a red diaper doper baby turned conservative:
(Who else do we know who was a "community organizer", hmmm??)
A bit more revealing info on this page, including her starting NARAL, the pro-abortion organization, and the fact that she was a communist (they say "communist cookie", I have NO idea what that means???)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_Friedan
Keywiki, the go-to place to find "the rest of the story" on leftist individuals and organizations:
http://www.keywiki.org/index.php/Betty_Friedan
Communist influence
It was discovered in the last couple of years that she was actually an official member of the CPUSA (Communist Party of the USA) but I can't find that at the moment. The reason I am citing all this stuff is because feminism started from a leftist, extreme man-hating and pro-abortion platform. Even the original feminists (note the one starting in the 60s is called "the second wave") were radicals - often socialists, advocating homosexuality, "open marriages" and the like.
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Yeah that's having a vendetta , a grudge that manifests in action.
grudge [gruhj] noun, adjective, verb, grudged, grudg·ing.
noun
1.
a feeling of ill will*or resentment: to hold a grudge against a former opponent.
adjective
2.
done, arranged, etc., in order to settle a grudge: The middleweight fight was said to be a grudge match.
verb (used with object)
3.
to give or permit with reluctance; submit to unwillingly: The other team grudged us every point we scored.
4.
to resent the good fortune of (another); begrudge.
verb (used without object)
5.
Obsolete . to feel dissatisfaction or ill will.
Origin:
1400–50; late Middle English grudgen, gruggen, *variant of gruchen *< Old French gro ( u ) c ( h ) ier *< Germanic; *compare Middle High German grogezen *to complain, cry out
Related forms
grudge·less, adjective
grudg·er, noun
un·grudged, adjective
Synonyms
1. *bitterness, rancor, malevolence, enmity, hatred. Grudge, malice, spite *refer to ill will held against another or others. A grudge *is a feeling of resentment harbored because of some real or fancied wrong: to hold a grudge because of jealousy; She has a grudge against him. Malice *is the state of mind that delights in doing harm, or seeing harm done, to others, whether expressing itself in an attempt seriously to injure or merely in sardonic humor: malice in watching someone's embarrassment; to tell lies about someone out of malice. Spite *is petty, and often sudden, resentment that manifests itself usually in trifling retaliations: to reveal a secret out of spite. 4. *envy.
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noun
1.
a feeling of ill will*or resentment: to hold a grudge against a former opponent.
adjective
2.
done, arranged, etc., in order to settle a grudge: The middleweight fight was said to be a grudge match.
verb (used with object)
3.
to give or permit with reluctance; submit to unwillingly: The other team grudged us every point we scored.
4.
to resent the good fortune of (another); begrudge.
verb (used without object)
5.
Obsolete . to feel dissatisfaction or ill will.
Origin:
1400–50; late Middle English grudgen, gruggen, *variant of gruchen *< Old French gro ( u ) c ( h ) ier *< Germanic; *compare Middle High German grogezen *to complain, cry out
Related forms
grudge·less, adjective
grudg·er, noun
un·grudged, adjective
Synonyms
1. *bitterness, rancor, malevolence, enmity, hatred. Grudge, malice, spite *refer to ill will held against another or others. A grudge *is a feeling of resentment harbored because of some real or fancied wrong: to hold a grudge because of jealousy; She has a grudge against him. Malice *is the state of mind that delights in doing harm, or seeing harm done, to others, whether expressing itself in an attempt seriously to injure or merely in sardonic humor: malice in watching someone's embarrassment; to tell lies about someone out of malice. Spite *is petty, and often sudden, resentment that manifests itself usually in trifling retaliations: to reveal a secret out of spite. 4. *envy.
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Based on the Random House Dictionary, © Random House, Inc.
I have found throughout my life that almost all women who carry a grudge engage in vendetta. Off-hand, I can think of no exceptions to that, at least in my experience.
The way I understand it is this:
They were set out of the garden of Eden so they did not eat of the tree of life and be immortal in their fallen state. Then they would have been like the angels and there would be no redemption possible.
Gen 3
21 The LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. 22 And the LORD God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” 23 So the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side[e] of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.
It was for our benefit.
And both were equally responsible and equally disappointed God in eating of the tree.
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Pondering why...
It's human nature to seek justice, and so many choose to create their own brand of justice.
Perhaps they think being vindictive might avenge the wrongs committed against them somehow.
Perhaps they do it to "teach a lesson", "give a taste of their own medicine", "make them feel regret".
Perhaps they do it purely out of hateful spite and enjoy hurting others.
Perhaps their offense and pain is greater than their ability to forgive.