SOFT NEWS The Dominance of the Godless American Woman and the Fall of America

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The Dominance of the Godless American Woman and the Fall of America


Today there are absolutely no shortages of godless women in our post Judeo/Christian American culture. These women occupy all of society’s genres from politics to Hollywood, from the music industry to the fashion world, from the faculty lounge to the masses. They are very out spoken and preach a subtle - yet tyrannical - delusion of liberation and freedom by the application and adherence of lawlessness, immorality, tolerance and political correctness; none of which can bring TRUE fullfillment but only tyrrany (Rom. 1:18-32, Gal. 6:7-8). Since the sixties, the women of American have become heavily indoctrinated by secularism and they have changed dramatically into godless, licentious, narcissistic, angry and lewd individuals. Society - even here in America - has always had its social problems, but the masses in general always adhered to an objective morality based on the Bible and its Judeo/ Christian values. American society (in general) since our founding had always frowned upon lewdness and moral secularism.

Since the sixties, the women of American have become heavily indoctrinated by secularism and they have changed dramatically into godless, licentious, narcissistic, angry and lewd individuals.

It was after the American civil war that our American culture began to break away from the healthy social restraints of Judeo/Christianity that had preserved our nation and its family unit and secularism and human rationalism began to take hold. As time went on, we began to see the seduction of this ideology on the women of America and though woman did deserved more personal rights and freedoms as granted by Almighty God and the constitution, a group of women sought the extreme end of this spectrum which was unhealthy, toxic and enslaving to its posterity.

Today we have seen where this extreme and harmful secular feminism has taken us to and what and who it has produced. This godless ideology has infiltrated all aspects, genres and traditions of our once great American society and those who have joined its legions have been a fifth column sabotage unit in a war to destroy America and all that has made her great. Tragically these godless women of America have been co-labors right along with fallen man’s lawless bent, sexual rebellion, unbridled passions and have raised the bar of depravity to levels unimaginable, even to the point of succeeding in their mission to redefine and legitimize the demonization of America’s once healthy social order, morality and even Almighty God (Rom. 1:18-32, Jude 1:7,10).

This godless ideology has infiltrated all aspects, genres and traditions of our once great American society and those who have joined its legions have been a fifth column sabotage unit in a war to destroy America and all that has made her great.

Tragically here in America these women have gone right along redefining morality, virtue and etiquette and have sold themselves to be willing accomplices with godless man in the indoctrination of a whole entire generation (Rom. 1:18-32). These cultural Marxist and secular feminist deviants who come across as social "angels of light" have transformed themselves into an army of elite intellectuals, social justice crusaders, armed with Alinskyite tactics, sexual appeal and a subjective hatred of Judeo/Christian values. They are cruel, sophisticated, well dressed and well educated, groomed and godless and have become the subtle secular trendsetters whose vindictive mindset and passion is to overturn ALL that Almighty God and Judeo/Christianity stands for here in America (Rom. 1:18-32). The overwhelming majority of these women are not from the slums of society. They have not been raised in poor and meager settings, but are from some of the richest families, well privileged and lacking nothing. They have been raised and bred with an instilled hatred of true Americanism in them and in their heart of hearts are in a continual war with our nation’s founding principles, conservatism, the Constitution, moral absolutes and absolutely despise all that Almighty God (the Creator) stands for (Rom. 1:18-32). In these last 50 years we have seen the EXPONENTIAL rise of these elitist godless women in our nation to the point of obtaining respectability and normality and this lawless spirit has come to dominate our Judeo/ Christian heritage which has led our nation to the brink of destruction (2 Tim 3:1-7, Jude 1:10).

My dear friend, Satan is no dope or buffoon. He is a diabolical genius who fully comprehends the inner workings of Adam’s fallen race and knows how to perfectly play humanity like a fiddle to fulfill all of his demonic anti-God agenda (Isa. 14:12-15, Matt. 4:9, Eph. 2:2-3, Rev. 13:4). He is a human hunter and a destroyer and knows exactly what bait to use to bring down a culture and society which has had the Bible and Almighty God in its beginnings and founding (John 8:44). As one reads through the biblical account of Adam’s fallen race one satanic tactic is always used and tragically is 95% effective. That demonic tactic is to corrupt the woman's moral bearings and use her sexual appeal to seduce, corrupt and bring down a godly or even a godless social order and to render that society useless for Almighty God’s plan and out working for it (Rom. 1:18-32). The woman was used in the Garden of Eden (Gen. 3). She was used to corrupt the holy seed of Seth in the pre-flood world (Gen. 6), She was used to derail Sampson (Judges 16), David (2 Sam. 11, 12:1-13), Solomon (1 Kings 11:1-11) and the nation of Israel (Numb 25, Ezra 9:1-2) and the Church (Rev. 2:20-22). Almighty God’s Word gives ample warning for the man to guard ones heart and fallen nature from the ways and traps of the godless women (Proverbs 6) while instructing the man to find a godly and virtuous women for the health and betterment of a society (Prov. 31:10-31). We have seen – in the last 50 years - with our own eyes the horrific ramifications and social fallout that has taken place here in America when the woman has abandoned and forsaken her Divine calling (Prov. 31:10-31). One of these horrific results has been the murder and barbaric infanticide of 55 million unborn children since 1973 under the euphemistic title of "choice".

That demonic tactic is to corrupt the woman and use her sexual appeal to seduce, corrupt and bring down a godly or even a godless social order and to render that society useless for Almighty God’s plan and out working for it.

We have seen since the beginning of the social and sexual revolution here in America that the American man has been made base, feminine and weak by the subtle charms of the lawless intellect, licentious behavior, dominating spirit and position in the new social order of our post Judeo/Christian culture. Satan’s hand is all over this. Tragically with this rise of the godless woman and the promotion of secular feminism here in America there has come a ravishing price tag for this delusional “liberation”. The American woman of today is plagued with compounding guilt, personal unfulfillment, sex, drug and alcohol addiction, plaguing STD’s, physical abuse, deep dark depression, psychological trauma, rage, hatred, bitterness, a vindictive spirit and emotional instability. They are personally unfullfilled and spiritually vacant (Gal. 6:7,8). These women have drunk the lawless kool-aid of the secular liberation movement's message and have been sold a demonic bill of wares. They have forsaken and rebelled against Almighty God’s Divine purpose and design for them and it has affected them all according to their own personal application of this secular and lawless ideology. Tragically they have become shipwrecked on the lawless shores of godlessness and have been reaping the lawless consequences continually (Gal. 6:7-8). Instead of humbling themselves to the love, mercy and grace of Almighty God they have tragically only hardened their hearts and have become bitter and even more vile in their manner of living.

Almighty God created the woman to be finer than the man. She was created to balance the dominate nature of man, to hold him accountable, to be his help meet, to be loving, motherly, caring, compassionate and the anchor of the Divine design of the family unit (Almighty God being the bedrock) - Prov. 31: 10-31, Matt. 7:24-26). One can always tell the temperature of a culture and society by the state and condition of its women. When women are in a right relationship with Almighty God and adhere to the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God there is a healthy restraint, order and harmony in a fallen society, to preserve it and to keep it from corruption. Since 1962 - when prayer and Almighty God was removed from our nation’s schools - the lawless dam here in America has broken wide open and the American woman has been swept away and has been its greatest victim. The delusional and lawless ambitions for godless liberation have only shackled these women with iron battleship chains and have self imposed a lawless tyranny upon themselves (Gal. 6:7-8).

When women are in a right relationship with Almighty God and adhere to the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God there is a healthy restraint, order and harmony in a fallen society, to preserve it and to keep it from corruption.

Let’s just take a look at what makes up the many faceted genres (socially, politically, culturally) which the American godless woman of today out works her existence. The godless American women of today (in general) practices a moral relativistic mindset and can be found in all areas within the cultural spectrum (some more extreme than others). She is reprobate in all moral absolute logic. She is godless in her ideology. She is humanly subjective in all of her worldly opinions; she’s ignorant, brutish, callus, blind and foolish. She is driven by personal ambition, envy, jealousy, anger and rage. She is vindictive, spiteful and merciless to any who oppose her lawless mindset and will destroy, ravish and slander any who challenge her lawless ideals. She is always a victim in her mind and must have retribution. She champions and exercises compassion for lawless and godless causes, while expressing zero compassion for moral and godly ones. She has been hardened by the consequences of her lawless ways. She is – at her heart – unhappy, self loathing and miserable. She is lewd, rude and licentious even though she may seem moderate in her opinions. She has given herself over to the unbridled passions of her fallen nature and has become callus to shame and never blushes. She is a hypocrite, always masquerading her godless intentions with a compassionate facade. She is a hunter of men’s souls, a destroyer of families, a murder of the unborn, she prostitutes her humanity for lawlessness, she is a promoter of social and moral lawlessness and anarchy. She is guided by an illogical, unstable and unbalanced emotional roller coaster and is always hypocritical while seeking to be sincere (Isa. 5:20, Rom. 1:18-32). Her mindset and abandonment of the Laws of Nature and of Natures God has opened her up to be influenced and used by the god of this world (John 8:44, 2 Cor. 4:3-4, Eph. 2:2-3).

The godless American women of today (in general) practices a moral relativistic mindset and can be found in all areas within the cultural spectrum (some more extreme than others).

We have seen in our society of today and in our past women who have taken on this mindset and have been the leading cultural trendsetters in the ways of lawlessness. Though, many vary in their positions of secular feminism these women have had the greatest negative impact on our Judeo/ Christian culture.

Margret Sanger, Madelyn Murray O’Hare, Jane Fonda, Liz Taylor, Hillary Clinton, Madonna, Michele Obama, Janeane Garofalo, Rachel Maddow, Nancy Pelosi, Katie Couric, Debbie Wasserman Shultz, Sandra Fluke, Angeline Jolie, Ophra Winfrey etc.

These women influence millions of women daily with their subtle secular relativistic morality, godlessness, euphemistic virtues, lawless secular feministic liberation and “do as thou wilt” ideology. These women are the heroes of a post Judeo/ Christian lawless society, role models for all those who thirst for liberation from their Creator and His moral absolutes which were instilled at the creation of the world (Gen. 1, Psalm 19). Be not surprised when these rally women and a nation to hate and despise god-fearing women such as Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman, and a host of other conservative Christian women. Everything is turned upside down today and there is absolutely no stopping it (Psalm 11:3, Isa. 5:20). Expect evil men and women to get worse and worse as the day continues (2 Tim 3:1-7). The Day of the Lord is at hand and His time for global judgment on all those who hold the TRUTH, physical and spiritual ABSOLUTES and RIGHTEOUSNESS of Almighty God in unrighteousness (Rom. 1:18-32, Rev. 6-16). When the women of a society have sold themselves to lawlessness as we have seen for these last 50 years, we are indeed at the end of our nation’s journey.

The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!!

DJP I.F.
 

Hansa44

Justine Case
I guess he hasn't looked at the gender of those controlling the world has he? The gender of who is making all these hideous laws. The gender of most those committing murder, rape, stealing, etc.

Many women have become defiant because they got tired of being treated like second class citizens for many, many years.As far as I can tell, the bible talks of women whoring around and the consequences, but rarely is anything mentioned about men and husbands whoring around.

It's a two-fold road folks.
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
His seems a very cut and dried world. I have not found the religious, political, or societal bails of life nearly so uniform.

What feeds me well may leave you pining for a Big Mac.

Each to his own said the farmer as he kissed his cow.

Dobbin
 

Richard

TB Fanatic
when i hear the word gender I reach for my gun

hollywood is finished, just like hitlery

bill was the ultimate philanderer but he got away with it thanks to you
 

FREEBIRD

Has No Life - Lives on TB
"I'm not denying the women are foolish---God Almighty made 'em to match the men."


One example: "The godless American women of today (in general) practices a moral relativistic mindset and can be found in all areas within the cultural spectrum (some more extreme than others). She is reprobate in all moral absolute logic. She is godless in her ideology. She is humanly subjective in all of her worldly opinions; she’s ignorant, brutish, callus, blind and foolish. She is driven by personal ambition, envy, jealousy, anger and rage. She is vindictive, spiteful and merciless to any who oppose her lawless mindset and will destroy, ravish and slander any who challenge her lawless ideals."

Cannot the same precise criticism be made of the godless American man? Of course it can. The problem is not just that such women exist (and they do, more's the shame), but that such men exist as well, and the only cure for this is conversion.

I would not want to be the man so bereft of spine that he cannot be accountable for his own actions and attitudes but must blame a woman (somewhere characterized as "the weaker vessel"...) for his own failings.
 

old pirate

Membership Revoked
the men are making laws that the lesbian femenazi's and metro-sexual deballed men want.
i love women. it is very hard to find a good woman. they are tough, loud, mean, controlling, overtly shallow.

they split from one man and the next night, in fact for many, the same night, they are in another mans bed.

no no, i know what you must think but "i have NEVER been screwed over by a women".

getting past all that, the more women NOT being a housewife, the lower into hell our society goes.
 

Mzkitty

I give up.
More useless patronizing lectures..... when will we realize all have fallen short of the Glory of God. When does the entire country, the entire world repent, and get rid of the system of Satan? THAT is the Question.

????
 

goatlady2

Deceased
What powerhouses we women must be to control everything in that manner. On the other hand it's ALWAYS our fault it seems! That "article" comes very close to sounding muslin in outlook. Poor male gender, such wooses, cannot stand against the feminine mystique on their own 2 feet.
 

ittybit

Inactive
I've seen this kind of writing before, from Feminists, Misogenists, Environmentalists, Corporatists, Conservatives, Liberals, Academics, Knuckle-Draggers, etc. The tone and rationalizations are all the same, wording and finger-pointing-labels differ. Ultimately its a spirit of resentment, envy, jealousy, hatrid, victimization, vengence, etc. There is no self-reflection - just self-righteousness and scape-goating.

Its all very tiring because it hits too close to home for me, as I see my own reflection in those words as well. I am no stranger to bigotry or feeling sorry for myself or being angry at others.

My only hope is that everyone else around me will finally straighten out their acts long enough to help me get out of the all to frequent holes I find I have dug for myself. So, I'm counting on you guys to give me a hand here and rise up to sainthood at the very least for my sake!
 

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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While he has some good points, he doesn't write well enough for anyone to want to glean them.
 

Blastoff

Veteran Member
Commitment has been discarded, and with it, people. So sad we treat each other as if we are disposable.

I would welcome a loving man into my life, but what I keep encountering is raw anger. Here, on the net, and in the real world. What has happened?
 

Gercarson

Veteran Member
What powerhouses we women must be to control everything in that manner. On the other hand it's ALWAYS our fault it seems! That "article" comes very close to sounding muslin in outlook. Poor male gender, such wooses, cannot stand against the feminine mystique on their own 2 feet.
American men love their American women. Now, with the creeping in of sharia law and the "mystique" of Islam that liberal women are seeminly aiming for - American women can kiss the freedoms that we all enjoy between the "genders" goodbye. It's easy to see that when women DO have these freedoms that our American women label their men "wooses" because they DO have the equality (I'll wait here for the flames) that men have. So - wooses and women's "mystique" are at odds with one another. Bwahahahaha - careful, you MAY get what you're praying for.
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
While he has some good points, he doesn't write well enough for anyone to want to glean them.

I agree with this.
Also, if you substituted quotes from the koran instead of the Bible, this article could be coming from any moslem Imam.

Kind of like the law their trying to pass in Egypt discussed on another thread.
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
I agree with Cardinal, that while he has a few good points, the majority of his article make finding them difficult. (Seperating the wheat from the chaff)

Many women seem to have given up or lost their femininity, just as many men have given up or lost their masculinity.
Now days many of both sexes seem to have a problem knowing just what real femininity or masculinity is.

Men and women are different, both mentally and physically and thank God for that.
Where we get into trouble is where either sex tries to take on the false stereotypes of the other in the belief that it somehow makes them stronger or better.

When both men and women learn to listen to their brains (because God wired them each differently) and allow themselves to feel their hormones that God gave them, they will find that they compliment each other perfectly.
They will find that as a team, a man and a woman, are both stronger, smarter, more resiliant and wiser than either could be seperately.
Whether you want to believe that it is a result of a million years of evolution or because God just made us that way, it's still true.
 

Mzkitty

I give up.
The Dominance of the Godless American Woman and the Fall of America


Just seeing that lying filthy statement is making me puke ^^^^^^^^^^


:shk:
 

Disciple

Veteran Member
American men love their American women. Now, with the creeping in of sharia law and the "mystique" of Islam that liberal women are seeminly aiming for - American women can kiss the freedoms that we all enjoy between the "genders" goodbye. It's easy to see that when women DO have these freedoms that our American women label their men "wooses" because they DO have the equality (I'll wait here for the flames) that men have. So - wooses and women's "mystique" are at odds with one another. Bwahahahaha - careful, you MAY get what you're praying for.

Very good insight.
 

Mzkitty

I give up.
American men love their American women. Now, with the creeping in of sharia law and the "mystique" of Islam that liberal women are seeminly aiming for - American women can kiss the freedoms that we all enjoy between the "genders" goodbye. It's easy to see that when women DO have these freedoms that our American women label their men "wooses" because they DO have the equality (I'll wait here for the flames) that men have. So - wooses and women's "mystique" are at odds with one another. Bwahahahaha - careful, you MAY get what you're praying for.

If The Evil Machine and its minions weren't constantly interfering with the rotten way it's running the world, men and women would be more at peace with each other. This blaming the sexes for something outside themselves that wants to see us ALL destroyed and every shred of freedom gone........

Pathetic. Where are the real male leaders who want to step up to the gigantic plate we're all facing? Or did you expect women to do it while belittling us and keeping this stupid war going?
 

Scotto

Set Apart
The more things change the more they stay the same. Things come and go, die off and are re-born again.

There is nothing new under the sun.
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
How many threads on TB do we have to have about how horrible women are. Enough already!

Actually Hansa44, I think the original post was a bit spiteful and derogative - but motivated by a desire for high outcome. Not fun to read. But the posts since have been much more enlightened.

Also one might ask how many other posts do we have about how horrible __________ (fill in the blank) are?

I don't usually participate in these ritualistic lamentations aimed at one segment of humanity or another. Every human segment has both it's good sides and it's down sides. Humans just sometimes forget the good.

But it might be a kind of a "dry" discussion board with every human nodding at each other about how great they are.

It's all right if I make apologies for you humans, isn't it?

Dobbin
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Sorry, folks, but I agree with the OP and the article.

The hand that rocks the cradle really DOES rule the world.

Satan knew what he was doing when he came after EVE FIRST---he knew SHE was a FAR surer way of destroying ADAM--and all their subsequent children--than any frontal attack on the man.

But it began LONG ago--it didn't start with the 60's---that was just the third (or fourth) and (till then) the most serious OUTBREAK of the malady which had been incubating in our society since the "rationalism" of the late 1800's, which gave us such gems as atheism, Darwinism, Communism, the Eugenics movement, and other scions of Satan which blossomed in the excesses of the "Gay Nineties" and "Roaring Twenties", formed fruit in the atrocities of the 30's and 40's, continued development through the fertile environs of the 50's and 60's, and have now come into the fullness of their (rotten) fruit in our own day and age.

It has been WOMEN who have "held the torch" in their homes for truth--THE truth (God's), and it was only when women began to question whether that role was an honor or a shackle that the whole paradigm began to break down.

Once again, Satan came FIRST for EVE.

Compare this above view of what womanhood should be with Susannah Wesley---who raised 10 children (she bore 19, but 9 died as infants). One of her children (a daughter) was special-needs (being "deformed"--cerebral palsy?) Her husband was a perennial and impractical n'er-do-well who spent time in debtor's prison, spent all his family's money, and even left his wife and children for a time over a dispute over politics. This left not only the raising of the children but the support of the household on Susannah's shoulders.

Yet, with the help of only one servant, she not only found a way to provide for her household, feed and clothe all her children, educate all of them every day (for 6 hours), train them in correct personal habits and in housekeeping chores, and build in them a strong faith in God, but the lessons she instilled in them produced a group of young men and women who were extolled for their piety and industriousness, and two sons whose influence changed the world---John and Charles Wesley, the founders of Methodism.

It is also to these brothers that Christendom owes many of its most lovely and influential hymns.

Here is a woman who did not let the oppressiveness of her time in history--nor the dragging influence of a bad husband---pull her down or hold her down, or destroy her children.

To her absent husband, Susannah Wesley wrote:

"I am a woman, but I am also the mistress of a large family. And though the superior charge of the souls contained in it lies upon you, yet in your long absence I cannot but look upon every soul you leave under my charge as a talent committed to me under a trust. I am not a man nor a minister, yet as a mother and a mistress I felt I ought to do more than I had yet done. I resolved to begin with my own children..."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susanna_Wesley

Susanna’s place in Christian history is indeed based on what her sons accomplished but it could be said to have been her example and influence that helped them to do what they did. Susanna’s best legacy was indeed her children, particularly John. For it was in the Epworth parsonage that he acquired the focused leadership that would empower and inspire the man who “represents the force which has most profoundly affected English history,” as one scholar put it, referring to the 18th century.

Indeed, a great legacy from a woman who expressed a simple desire: “I am content to fill a little space if God be glorified.”


http://www.historyswomen.com/womenoffaith/SusannahWesley.html

Finally, there is this, from Peter Marshall's sermon "Keepers of the Springs":


The emancipation of womanhood began with Christianity, and it ends with Christianity. It had its beginning one night nineteen hundred years ago when there came to a woman named Mary a vision and a message from heaven. She saw the rifted clouds of glory and the hidden battlements of heaven. She heard an angelic annunciation of the almost incredible news that she, of all the women on earth...of all the Marys in history...was to be the only one who should ever wear entwined the red rose of maternity and the white rose of virginity. It was told her--and all Keepers of the Springs know how such messages come--that she should be the mother of the Savior of the world.


It was nineteen hundred years ago "when Jesus Himself a baby deigned to be and bathed in baby tears His deity"...and on that night, when that tiny Child lay in the straw of Bethlehem, began the emancipation of womanhood.


When He grew up and began to teach the way of life, He ushered woman into a new place in human relations. He accorded her a new dignity and crowned her with a new glory, so that wherever the Christian evangel has gone for nineteen centuries, the daughters of Mary have been respected, revered, remembered, and loved, f or men have recognized that womanhood is a sacred and a noble thing, that women are of finer clay...are more in touch with the angels of God and have the noblest function that life affords. Wherever Christianity has spread, for nineteen hundred years men have bowed and adored.


It remained for the twentieth century, in the name of progress, in the name of tolerance, in the name of broadmindedness, in the name of freedom, to pull her down from her throne and try to make her like a man.


She wanted equality. For nineteen hundred years she had not been equal--she had been superior. But now, they said, she wanted equality, and in order to obtain it, she had to step down. And so it is, that in the name of broadminded tolerance, a man's vices have now become a woman's.


Twentieth-century tolerance has won for woman the right to become intoxicated,
the right to have an alcoholic breath,
the right to smoke,
to work like a man
to act like a man--for is she not man's equal?

Today they call it "progress"...but tomorrow--oh, you Keepers of the Springs, they must be made to see that it is not progress.


No nation has ever made any progress in a downward direction. No people ever became great by lowering their standards. No people ever became good by adopting a looser morality. It is not progress when the moral tone is lower than it was. It is not progress when purity is not as sweet. It is not progress when womanhood has lost its fragrance. Whatever else it is, it is not progress!


http://www.ladiesagainstfeminism.co...Issues_5/Keepers_of_the_Springs_2010020.shtml
 

Mzkitty

I give up.
There is no way for all women to be these utopian visions of a supposedly fallen Eve resurrecting unless all the men become what they are supposed to be too.

Don't make women have to do everything. It's not possible. If it's a partnership it has to be a real one. I don't see that happening. I mean I know lots of you guys here are the good guys, but there's millions and millions out there who aren't. And they run things.

?????

:popcorn1:
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
You must not have read my post. Susannah Wesley had what I would call a "sorry" husband, but she didn't use that as an excuse to lay down and give up.

I'm not saying women are responsible for ALL man's downfall---even the Bible says, "Adam was NOT deceived"--yet he made a CONSCIOUS choice to walk open-eyed into sin, due to the influence of his wife. (he didn't want to live without her--if SHE had made a choice that would mean her death, he wanted to die as well).

See what a tremendous -- and DANGEROUS -- power we wield over our men, by our influence alone?

I also remember (come from) a time when girls upheld the standards of purity in dating, and because women more or less hold access to that "carrot" they have (or had--we've surrendered it) the power to wield the "stick" of setting the limit of what a man HAD to measure up to, to deserve access to that "carrot".

A wise man once me that "what men have to WORK for, they appreciate more."

It is our OWN fault if men no longer appreciate women, if we've made it so "easy" for them--in every way---first we demanded the men let us be like MEN, now we want our MEN to act more like WOMEN.

Is it any wonder our society is in such a mess?
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
A wise man once me that "what men have to WORK for, they appreciate more."

Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?

My turn now. Do we have to write about this?

Dobbin
 

Mzkitty

I give up.
You must not have read my post. Susannah Wesley had what I would call a "sorry" husband, but she didn't use that as an excuse to lay down and give up.

I'm not saying women are responsible for ALL man's downfall---even the Bible says, "Adam was NOT deceived"--yet he made a CONSCIOUS choice to walk open-eyed into sin, due to the influence of his wife. (he didn't want to live without her--if SHE had made a choice that would mean her death, he wanted to die as well).

See what a tremendous -- and DANGEROUS -- power we wield over our men, by our influence alone?

I also remember (come from) a time when girls upheld the standards of purity in dating, and because women more or less hold access to that "carrot" they have (or had--we've surrendered it) the power to wield the "stick" of setting the limit of what a man HAD to measure up to, to deserve access to that "carrot".

A wise man once me that "what men have to WORK for, they appreciate more."

It is our OWN fault if men no longer appreciate women, if we've made it so "easy" for them--in every way---first we demanded the men let us be like MEN, now we want our MEN to act more like WOMEN.

Is it any wonder our society is in such a mess?

Well, with JC one need not be troubled by original sin. Besides, it was Satan who BEGUILED Eve. And where was Adam when all this was going on?

The point is that now is now, I love God, and I do what's right to the best of my ability. If others don't it's because they won't, or nobody told them the truth so they don't know. And that includes so many in the world. Being taught wrong. I can only be the best example I personally can be. And I don't let the Adam and Even event mar what I'm doing now. God loves us.

See what point I'm coming from?

:)
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
Wow. Good post Countrymouse.
If the original article had said it like the quote you just posted it would have been much better.
Thank you.
 

Mzkitty

I give up.
Wow. Good post Countrymouse.
If the original article had said it like the quote you just posted it would have been much better.
Thank you.

So are you saying you believe being born again doesn't totally wash away that "original sin"? Aren't we to live by the New Testament?
 

willowlady

Veteran Member
It has been WOMEN who have "held the torch" in their homes for truth--THE truth (God's), and it was only when women began to question whether that role was an honor or a shackle that the whole paradigm began to break down.

Very true. And WHY did women begin to question their role? That, like many other not-so-good ideas, came right straight out of the lovely state of California. It was a male lawyer who did not want to live up to the financial obligations or legal restrictions involved in the then-current divorce laws. So, he got together with a bunch of his buddies and got legislation passed.

In California
.....effective January 1, 1970.[2] At that time, lawyers and judges objected to the legal fictions used to bypass statutory requirements for obtaining a divorce, which had become more commonplace since the mid-20th century. In August 2010, New York's governor, David Paterson, signed into law a bill removing mutual-consent requirements and shortening the waiting period for "no-fault" divorce. Since at least 1985, no-fault divorce has been available in all 50 U.S. states and the District of Columbia.[3][4]

Prior to the no-fault divorce revolution, a divorce could be obtained only through a showing of fault of one of the parties in a marriage. This was something more than not loving one another; it meant that one spouse had to plead that the other had committed adultery, abandonment, felony, or other similarly culpable acts. However, the other spouse could plead a variety of defenses, like recrimination (essentially an accusation of "so did you"). A judge could find that the respondent had not committed the alleged act or the judge could accept the defense of recrimination and find both spouses at fault for the dysfunctional nature of their marriage.[5]

Instantly, the security of women was gone. No longer did a man have to have a good reason to dump the dame, not was he as heavily obligated financially towards her support. Mothers and daughters knew from that moment on they better be able to support themselves and thus began in earnest the end of the woman-of-the-house that used to uphold America.

You may think this a simplistic view of how it happened, but I was a young wife/mother in California when this stuff was going on. Any woman with a functional brain knew it spelled the death knell for the traditional family roles. I'm not saying there were no holes in the dike prior to that time. But passage of that law cracked the barriers wide open and hastened us along the path to destruction.
 

Mzkitty

I give up.
Women need to be free to do as they see fit. But this law you denigrate was passed by men, don't forget.

And again with the "blame." Don't we all EVER get past that game?
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
Very true. And WHY did women begin to question their role? That, like many other not-so-good ideas, came right straight out of the lovely state of California. It was a male lawyer who did not want to live up to the financial obligations or legal restrictions involved in the then-current divorce laws. So, he got together with a bunch of his buddies and got legislation passed.

In California

Instantly, the security of women was gone. No longer did a man have to have a good reason to dump the dame, not was he as heavily obligated financially towards her support. Mothers and daughters knew from that moment on they better be able to support themselves and thus began in earnest the end of the woman-of-the-house that used to uphold America.

You may think this a simplistic view of how it happened, but I was a young wife/mother in California when this stuff was going on. Any woman with a functional brain knew it spelled the death knell for the traditional family roles. I'm not saying there were no holes in the dike prior to that time. But passage of that law cracked the barriers wide open and hastened us along the path to destruction.

valuable observation. but even earlier, the long ordeal of WWII required that so many of the men be gone from the nation for such a prolonged time, requiring so many of the women to take up jobs in the factories to replace the men, and so when those men that finally did survive the war returned home, they found a whole population of "can-do" women who realized that they could do "a man's job" and later, when the next generation of children reached school age, their moms began to enter the work force to add to the family's income and pursue that "American Dream" portrayed on the TV and in Hollywood movies.

so in consequence, the "standard of Living" was raised, even as the "Traditional Family Life" was de-valued, and the family ultimately abandoned through "modern" ideas foisted upon us by Academia and Hollywood, via the medium of MSM. brainwashing at it's finest.
 
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naturallysweet

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Why do women always get the blame? I'm really tired of men using us as someone to blame and kick around whenever they see a problem.

Get off your own butts and act like real men. A real man doesn't blame others, he finds a problem and fixes it.

All the women haters are proving is that they are really little boys who don't want to live up to their responsibilities.
 

Gercarson

Veteran Member
If The Evil Machine and its minions weren't constantly interfering with the rotten way it's running the world, men and women would be more at peace with each other. This blaming the sexes for something outside themselves that wants to see us ALL destroyed and every shred of freedom gone........

Pathetic. Where are the real male leaders who want to step up to the gigantic plate we're all facing? Or did you expect women to do it while belittling us and keeping this stupid war going?
No figuring out a woman - knuckle draggers or wooses? Pathetic, and not too much gray matter asking for "sensitive" men and "real male leaders" - you ARE right though, men should be men and women should be women but women want to be men too and shriek when they can't have it both ways. But most of those women do have it both ways.
 

Mzkitty

I give up.
This country is falling apart, and men and women can't even present a united front in this hideous war. That tells me things are real bad. Most don't even know or acknowledge what this war is all about, but it's for all our souls. Back in WWII everybody presented a united front, but look at us now. And don't blame women for that. One more time: it's this rotten system and its puppets. How are we going to get rid of them if we do what they want and argue about stupid things like men vs. women now?

I'm going to bed.
 

RJC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
A large share of young men today (of marrying age) have no desire or intent to marry. That is a serious problem and a red flag to the survival of any nation.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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There are high standards for both sexes and both sexes are missing the mark quite badly. The reason why men usually catch it most often is because God said that's where the buck is supposed to stop. He wanted men to personify and exemplify him in the structure of the family and all that that entails ... not just the power but the grace and mercy and wisdom and everything else as well. Husbands are called to love their wives. Women are called to submit to their husband but too many don't really understand what that means. And too many men don't understand that they have to be worthy of being submitted to.

In my opinion there is no hope for the sexes at large until post-Judgment Day. But that doesn't mean there is not hope for individuals within the sexes.

Do what you know is right in the Lord. Make yourself as you should be whether you be male or female. When you are most concerned with your own behavior and your own accountability ... the rest will fall into place. You get too wound up in blaming the opposite sex you completely miss the point.
 
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