Very good summation of the situation, RB.
I think this has "legs" too. Am more than a bit concerned, seeing as how we are not very far away!!!
UNEX Unexplained Noises Shake Clintonville, WI - Louder and Stronger Than Before!
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Very good summation of the situation, RB.
I think this has "legs" too. Am more than a bit concerned, seeing as how we are not very far away!!!
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
How far is athens from clintonville???
Lilbitsnana
On TB every waking moment
Just eyballing mapquest, it looks to be a little over 600 miles as the crow flies.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Interesting conversation at the chiropractors office today, he told me that he has had a large amount of patients coming in with ear hums, today and yesterday, that just won't go away, and no an adjustment didn't clear it up!
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
I think when Loup brought up Athens, he was just making the point that the whole North American plate seems to be getting "jumpy".
Also, in my memory (only 54 years, but still) I have NEVER heard of an earthquake in Athens. Like I said, it's flat---all of eastern Georgia is progressively more flat as it heads down toward the Atlantic, being land that was at one time submerged under the sea...
Milk-maid
Girls with Guns Member
I drove through the New Madrid fault zone a few summers ago when they had those massive floods...up through Illinois and into Wisconsin. It was unbelievable the amount of water everywhere along side the interstate as far as the eye could see. Scary since the interstate was so low and the water so high. I could easily see where the ground is so saturated that it just can't absorb anymore water and permanently floods those areas. Something similar to Baton Rouge where the land now just stays flooded and people's front yards are under water. This could be Wisconsin and down along the Mississsippi creating the great divide between the left and right side of the country. The land can sink under the weight of water and stay that way permanently.
Hence my reason for saying when it all starts to go down, Get your bug out bag and go west (if you're in Wisconsin.) The Great Lakes could really flood an area the size of the state.
Hence my reason for saying when it all starts to go down, Get your bug out bag and go west (if you're in Wisconsin.) The Great Lakes could really flood an area the size of the state.
Lilbitsnana
On TB every waking moment
I was only answering Packy.
But, being flat has nothing to do with having an earthquake or not.
You should really look at the earthquakes that have happened in GA, some even relatively close to Athens. Also, if we went only by individual cities and towns as being the known epicenter, then most of the US has never had an EQ either.
Just a summary of the biggest, but not all of, the GA earthquakes: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/states/georgia/history.php
Dex
Constitutional Patriot
I'm not sure what is going on but it appears that there is SOMETHING very serious occurring in the tectonic plates that we should be, at the very least, aware of on a national scale. There are some seemingly unusual things happening in "unusual" places that we need to continue to keep tabs on.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Fair Use Cited
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As Booms Return, Clintonville Asks USGS for Quake Monitors: Updated
Updated: Mar 28, 2012 5:19 PM CDT
Clintonville - Just as many people in Clintonville were starting to think the booming and shaking were over, they're back, and reportedly stronger than before.
Police received more than 60 calls starting at 10:35 Tuesday night, mostly from Clintonville's northeast side again, about a series of three booms and shaking. Some callers said it was stronger than last week.
A second event was reported by about 10 callers at 11:30 P.M., and there were also a handful of calls at one, two, and four o'clock Wednesday morning.
City Administrator Lisa Kuss says some callers were farther west than those who reported the noises and tremors last week.
"People described things in many ways similar to what we heard last week, but some people who also would have heard it last week also indicated that they seem stronger this one seemed worse, bigger, louder, longer," Kuss said.
No damage was reported.
The booms and shakes that were heard and felt by Clintonville residents last week became a familiar occurrence, but Lisa Marchel remarked Wednesday, "I pretty much thought they were over because I hadn't really felt anything since Friday night."
That was the feeling of many residents trying to get back to normal after the USGS confirmed days of mysterious booming and shaking were a low-magnitude earthquake.
But rumbling and booming noises returned overnight, packing a stronger punch and catching residents off-guard.
"Last night I was just standing in my bedroom and it was like, boom, and my floor shook," Marchel described. "This one was bigger than anything I've felt."
"It sounds like somebody's coming in the house with the car, you know? That great big sound you get from hitting something," Marge Bickford said.
The USGS believes it was another series of small earthquakes but doesn't have the data yet to back that up.
House-shaking booms were reported in Clintonville for several nights early last week. The USGS eventually reported a 1.5 magnitude earthquake shook the area last Tuesday morning. They believe a swarm of "micro-earthquakes" caused last week's noises and shaking.
The USGS says it's not uncommon for quakes to occur in a series.
"Whatever is causing it is just slowly releasing energy and stress. It's a stress-releasing kind of a scenario, so you will experience multiple earthquakes," Dutton explained.
And although these small quakes may be startling, the USGS says they're virtually harmless and will probably diminish over time.
"As far as the magnitude the size of these earthquakes that we've seen so far, I mean, they're just going to cause a lot of alarm for an area that is not used to having any kind of event," USGS geophysicist Julie Dutton said.
Kuss offered three reasons why there's so little data on the Clintonville rumblings:
•The smaller the magnitude of a quake, the harder it is to find the activity picked up by monitors
•The farther the activity is from monitors, the less likely it is to be picked up
•The more outside noise and interference, such as Tuesday night's strong winds, make it more difficult to detect the activity on the monitors
She says the only factor within their control is the second one, to bring in monitors closer to the earthquake activity.
That's why she sent a formal request for the agency to install additional monitors in the area, and she would like experts from the USGS to come to Clintonville.
"What we need to push now is for the USGS to bring in monitors, or perhaps universities in our area that have geologists. It seems like with the attention we've gotten there may be some interesting studies in this situation," Kuss said.
Residents are still asked to call the Clintonville Police Department if they experience any more booming or shaking
http://www.wbay.com/story/17271487/2012/03/28/clintonville-booms-return
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As Booms Return, Clintonville Asks USGS for Quake Monitors: Updated
Updated: Mar 28, 2012 5:19 PM CDT
Clintonville - Just as many people in Clintonville were starting to think the booming and shaking were over, they're back, and reportedly stronger than before.
Police received more than 60 calls starting at 10:35 Tuesday night, mostly from Clintonville's northeast side again, about a series of three booms and shaking. Some callers said it was stronger than last week.
A second event was reported by about 10 callers at 11:30 P.M., and there were also a handful of calls at one, two, and four o'clock Wednesday morning.
City Administrator Lisa Kuss says some callers were farther west than those who reported the noises and tremors last week.
"People described things in many ways similar to what we heard last week, but some people who also would have heard it last week also indicated that they seem stronger this one seemed worse, bigger, louder, longer," Kuss said.
No damage was reported.
The booms and shakes that were heard and felt by Clintonville residents last week became a familiar occurrence, but Lisa Marchel remarked Wednesday, "I pretty much thought they were over because I hadn't really felt anything since Friday night."
That was the feeling of many residents trying to get back to normal after the USGS confirmed days of mysterious booming and shaking were a low-magnitude earthquake.
But rumbling and booming noises returned overnight, packing a stronger punch and catching residents off-guard.
"Last night I was just standing in my bedroom and it was like, boom, and my floor shook," Marchel described. "This one was bigger than anything I've felt."
"It sounds like somebody's coming in the house with the car, you know? That great big sound you get from hitting something," Marge Bickford said.
The USGS believes it was another series of small earthquakes but doesn't have the data yet to back that up.
House-shaking booms were reported in Clintonville for several nights early last week. The USGS eventually reported a 1.5 magnitude earthquake shook the area last Tuesday morning. They believe a swarm of "micro-earthquakes" caused last week's noises and shaking.
The USGS says it's not uncommon for quakes to occur in a series.
"Whatever is causing it is just slowly releasing energy and stress. It's a stress-releasing kind of a scenario, so you will experience multiple earthquakes," Dutton explained.
And although these small quakes may be startling, the USGS says they're virtually harmless and will probably diminish over time.
"As far as the magnitude the size of these earthquakes that we've seen so far, I mean, they're just going to cause a lot of alarm for an area that is not used to having any kind of event," USGS geophysicist Julie Dutton said.
Kuss offered three reasons why there's so little data on the Clintonville rumblings:
•The smaller the magnitude of a quake, the harder it is to find the activity picked up by monitors
•The farther the activity is from monitors, the less likely it is to be picked up
•The more outside noise and interference, such as Tuesday night's strong winds, make it more difficult to detect the activity on the monitors
She says the only factor within their control is the second one, to bring in monitors closer to the earthquake activity.
That's why she sent a formal request for the agency to install additional monitors in the area, and she would like experts from the USGS to come to Clintonville.
"What we need to push now is for the USGS to bring in monitors, or perhaps universities in our area that have geologists. It seems like with the attention we've gotten there may be some interesting studies in this situation," Kuss said.
Residents are still asked to call the Clintonville Police Department if they experience any more booming or shaking
http://www.wbay.com/story/17271487/2012/03/28/clintonville-booms-return
City of Clintonville Press Release
March 28, 2012, 4:00 p.m.
The City of Clintonville is in day ten of people experiencing loud booming, rattling, exploding
type noises. On the evening of Tuesday, March 27, from 10:35 p.m. to 10:50 p.m. the Police
Department received 60 calls with reports of very loud booming noises and rumbling. Some
reported it being stronger than those felt last week. Approximately 10 more calls were received
at 11:30 p.m.. There have been no reports of activity today. The majority of the callers were
from the same vicinity as last week. However, there were more callers just to West of the
previous area. City Administrator Lisa Kuss immediately contacted the USGS at 11:00 p.m.
last night to have them begin searching for any possible data. At this time, nothing can be
confirmed by the USGS of seismic activity at around 10:35 pm. The fact that the USGS cannot
confirm another earthquake does not necessarily mean that one may not have occurred. There
are numerous reasons why the activity in Clintonville could be difficult to detect.
First, thesmaller the magnitude, the harder it is to find the activity in the data provided by the monitors.
Second, the further the activity is from the monitors, the less likely it is to be picked up as
activity in the database. Finally, the more outside noise and interference that exists at the time of
the event the more difficult it will be to detect the event. Last evening was a very windy night
which can cause this type of outside interference. Only one of these three factors can be
influenced by the USGS. That one area is the location of the monitors. For this reason the City
sent a formal request today to the USGS requesting that additional monitors be installed in our
community. Local officials believe that we need to continue to assure the public that we are
doing everything possible to learn more about this situation or attempt to continue to confirm
what the activity is. The City will wait to hear back from the USGS on their decision whether
the additional devices request will be approved and monitors deployed. Citizens are asked to
continue to call the Clintonville Police Department at (715) 823-3117 with reports of activity. In
addition to the local phone call, citizens can also report the activity to the USGS at
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/dyfi/ . Finally people can go to the Clintonville website
at www.clintonvillewi.org for further information about the past activity. The City will release
additional information as it becomes available. Press questions should be directed to Lisa
Kuss, City Administrator (715) 823-7600 or (715) 250-0001. ###
type noises. On the evening of Tuesday, March 27, from 10:35 p.m. to 10:50 p.m. the Police
Department received 60 calls with reports of very loud booming noises and rumbling. Some
reported it being stronger than those felt last week. Approximately 10 more calls were received
at 11:30 p.m.. There have been no reports of activity today. The majority of the callers were
from the same vicinity as last week. However, there were more callers just to West of the
previous area. City Administrator Lisa Kuss immediately contacted the USGS at 11:00 p.m.
last night to have them begin searching for any possible data. At this time, nothing can be
confirmed by the USGS of seismic activity at around 10:35 pm. The fact that the USGS cannot
confirm another earthquake does not necessarily mean that one may not have occurred. There
are numerous reasons why the activity in Clintonville could be difficult to detect.
First, thesmaller the magnitude, the harder it is to find the activity in the data provided by the monitors.
Second, the further the activity is from the monitors, the less likely it is to be picked up as
activity in the database. Finally, the more outside noise and interference that exists at the time of
the event the more difficult it will be to detect the event. Last evening was a very windy night
which can cause this type of outside interference. Only one of these three factors can be
influenced by the USGS. That one area is the location of the monitors. For this reason the City
sent a formal request today to the USGS requesting that additional monitors be installed in our
community. Local officials believe that we need to continue to assure the public that we are
doing everything possible to learn more about this situation or attempt to continue to confirm
what the activity is. The City will wait to hear back from the USGS on their decision whether
the additional devices request will be approved and monitors deployed. Citizens are asked to
continue to call the Clintonville Police Department at (715) 823-3117 with reports of activity. In
addition to the local phone call, citizens can also report the activity to the USGS at
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/dyfi/ . Finally people can go to the Clintonville website
at www.clintonvillewi.org for further information about the past activity. The City will release
additional information as it becomes available. Press questions should be directed to Lisa
Kuss, City Administrator (715) 823-7600 or (715) 250-0001. ###
WRITER’S NOTE ….the above information is written as a summary by the City Administrator
regarding her conversation with the USGS and not intended to be proven scientific facts about
earthquakes.
http://www.clintonvillewi.org/PDF/PR032812.pdfregarding her conversation with the USGS and not intended to be proven scientific facts about
earthquakes.
LoupGarou
Ancient Fuzzball
They don't need Seismographs, as much as they need ELF-LF receivers, magnetometers and slow quake (low frequency mass movement) detectors.
And I think we need them in a lot more places. We need to monitor as much as we can on all of this. Something is happening, and it's on a much larger scale that most people are thinking about right now.
It could get "interesting" in the near future (remember that old chinese curse). And it could get interesting rather quickly. I would suggest people prepare for quakes in a lot of places that they thought were impossible, and prepare for ones that can be a lot larger than one might expect in their area, just to be on the safe side.
Loup
VesperSparrow
Goin' where the lonely go
Seismographs can detect sonic booms and even meteors flying through our atmosphere at times...they are saying that they can't pick up the smallest of ground movement as well?
I wonder if there is something going on under one of those lakes up there and nobody's paying attention to it because of the distance...but just thinking here that there may be some underground spaces filling up and/or letting out water underground for some reason they haven't pinpointed yet....
I remember reading back around I think it was '04-05 that the Russians were convinced that the Pacific plate was going to fracture from one side of the rim to another. They were moving assets away from the coast and making huge bunker systems to prepare for it. Slid off the radar when Aussie Bloke fessed up, iirc.
I agree with Loup that something huge is happening to global tectonics.
Thanks to everyone for the awesome coverage, hypothesizing, and dot connecting
I agree with Loup that something huge is happening to global tectonics.
Thanks to everyone for the awesome coverage, hypothesizing, and dot connecting
VesperSparrow
Goin' where the lonely go
Anybody see this about exploding kitchen tiles not far from Clintonville?
http://www.wkow.com/story/17271321/exploding-kitchen-tiles-in-watertown
Now what would cause this?
WATERTOWN (WKOW) --
http://www.wkow.com/story/17271321/exploding-kitchen-tiles-in-watertown
Now what would cause this?
WATERTOWN (WKOW) --
LoupGarou
Ancient Fuzzball
Interesting.
We need to have a single 800X600 or 1024X768 pixel map of the US (even if that means that we have to open up the pixel limit to either one of those), and have people edit/add "dots" to that map where these incidents are happening. This may show us which faults are getting active again, and visually where all of these events are happening. I'm betting that they are happening in a LOT more places than are being reported.
Loup
Hfcomms
EN66iq
Shifting in the foundation/structure of the building. Those tiles are pretty much butted up against each other. If the wall/floor the tiles are on starts to shift the tiles will start to break. Seismic things coming down the line and perhaps in places people aren't expecting them.
Lilbitsnana
On TB every waking moment
A much more detailed story and news video about the exploding tiles in Watertown, WI.
http://www.wisn.com/education/30770975/detail.html ****bold and color are mine****
Read more: http://www.wisn.com/education/30770975/detail.html#ixzz1qWCKFudc
http://www.wisn.com/education/30770975/detail.html ****bold and color are mine****
continued at link
Read more: http://www.wisn.com/education/30770975/detail.html#ixzz1qWCKFudc
Ora Rosarium
Contributing Member
Thank you Moggy and Limner for the links to earthquake clouds in posts #413 and #414. (I don't know how to do quotes correctly) The pictures of the earthquake clouds from the ground are especially helpful in identifying them. I have seen those type of stringy, splochy clouds before here S.W. Virginia, but I don't know when. I did not associate them with anything other than maybe leftover clouds from a rain storm somewhere.
Thanks to you, LoupGarou, for more pieces to the puzzle. I had been wondering if those noises in Wisconsin could be man made, but your information disproved that.
Thanks to you, LoupGarou, for more pieces to the puzzle. I had been wondering if those noises in Wisconsin could be man made, but your information disproved that.
Hansa44
Justine Case
Heard it las night here in NW Alabama!
I was sitting at my computer about 1:30 am. All was very quiet in the house. Suddenly I hear a loud BOOM! And it was really loud.
I felt it in my chair I was sitting on and I have wooden shelves built into the wall next to me. I could even here them creak like they were shifting a bit.
Decided not to post this till this morning in case there were any more. Since I have a large fan running at night when I'm in bed I probably wouldn't hear it anyway till after the fact.
It's very nervewracking.
I was sitting at my computer about 1:30 am. All was very quiet in the house. Suddenly I hear a loud BOOM! And it was really loud.
I felt it in my chair I was sitting on and I have wooden shelves built into the wall next to me. I could even here them creak like they were shifting a bit.
Decided not to post this till this morning in case there were any more. Since I have a large fan running at night when I'm in bed I probably wouldn't hear it anyway till after the fact.
It's very nervewracking.
Hansa44
Justine Case
Allmycats had a dream about Chicken Bone Lake in N. Michigan
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Yes, that was Chicken Bone Lake which is located on Isle Royale in Lake Superior just off Thunder Bay. (By the way, anyone know "why" it was named "Thunder Bay"? Is that from an old Indian name--for thundering noises? Maybe this has happened before?)
In her dream, her father told her, "It will all come (or go) down on 10:28 at Chicken Bone Lake".
BTW, as noted earlier---Chicken Bone Lake is directly in a straight line north of Clintonville and the area where these booms are happening.
Lilbitsnana
On TB every waking moment
hmmm, that's around the time a loud noise or something woke me up (I had fallen sleep on the couch while waiting for the linemen to come fix some low hanging wires on the road down the road from my house). Right as I was sitting up, I heard the loud noise. I honestly thought it was our ice maker, it's loud when it dumps the ice sometimes, especially when the "bucket" is low. But, I either heard it twice, close together or felt something and then heard it.
Gee, maybe it wasn't the ice maker, but having been asleep, I can't say whether there was a vibration or not.
Interesting.
I wonder if that explains why so many of the utility poles around here have started leaning over the last couple of weeks. They don't all lean in the same direction and they didn't all start at the same time. That seems to be why when I was driving down our road last night around 9:15, some lines hit the top of my SUV. I didn't see them in the dark and it scared the crap out of me.
I called the utility companies to report the low hanging wires (about 6 feet off the ground), because I knew the trash truck would come through around 4 in the morning and not see them.
ETA: to clarify, I had originally thought the leaning poles had something to do with the high water table we have here. Lots of springs, creeks, ponds, etc. That could still be the cause of it.
Hansa44
Justine Case
This isn't the first time loud bangs or booms have happened in this area. I posted another thread a while back about hearing 2 very large bangs and my whole family went outside to see what happened.
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...wo-Very-Loud-Bangs-Near-Our-House!&highlight=
FarOut
Inactive
Many years ago I read a short SF/fantasy story. I believe it was by Niven.
Main character is in a supermarket just west of where the San Andreas fault runs into the Pacific. Suddenly there's an earthquake and someone shouts, "This is the big one! Everything west of the San Andreas is going to slide into the sea! We've got to get to the other side of the fault line!" Everyone panics and runs outside. He's battered by the crowd and knocked unconscious.
He comes to a while later slumped against his car. He's all alone and his car is the only one in the parking lot. He looks west; the Pacific Ocean looks calm. He looks east...
Nothing but ocean stretching to the horizon. It wasn't everything west of the San Andreas that slid into the sea, it was the entire United States and everything east of the fault line that slid into the sea.
Anyway, it was just a story...
Main character is in a supermarket just west of where the San Andreas fault runs into the Pacific. Suddenly there's an earthquake and someone shouts, "This is the big one! Everything west of the San Andreas is going to slide into the sea! We've got to get to the other side of the fault line!" Everyone panics and runs outside. He's battered by the crowd and knocked unconscious.
He comes to a while later slumped against his car. He's all alone and his car is the only one in the parking lot. He looks west; the Pacific Ocean looks calm. He looks east...
Nothing but ocean stretching to the horizon. It wasn't everything west of the San Andreas that slid into the sea, it was the entire United States and everything east of the fault line that slid into the sea.
Anyway, it was just a story...
The Clintonville shake map has been updated,
http://public1.co.waupaca.wi.us/GISViewer/index.html?config=config_shaking.xml
http://public1.co.waupaca.wi.us/GISViewer/index.html?config=config_shaking.xml
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Ora Rosarium
Contributing Member
The dutchsinse video from March 27 that Milk Maid referred to, showed plumes of steam from the northwest area of Alabama.
Here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwh37i4qp7Y&feature=g-all-u&context=G27f99e9FAAAAAAAAEAA
Here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwh37i4qp7Y&feature=g-all-u&context=G27f99e9FAAAAAAAAEAA
LoupGarou
Ancient Fuzzball
Those are not seismic plumes of steam. He has done this many times before. I would avoid the pseudoscience that "dutchsinse" is famous for.
Loup
Lilbitsnana
On TB every waking moment
Precisely.
Plus, he can't even get the time difference between UTC and CDT. There is a 5 hour difference not 6.
Also, sometime around then, there was info on the local news about a large fire.
Hansa44
Justine Case
I'm in agreement here. But shouldn't be. I hardly ever watch him and just don't understand what he's talking about. So I try not to pass judgement on anyone if I can't even figure out what they're saying.
LoupGarou
Ancient Fuzzball
Avoid Youtube for science facts and information. It's great for entertainment, and science fiction, but pathetic for real info. Everyone there wants their 15 minutes of fame. At best it's a bad blog with moving pictures. At worst it is extremely bad info and will probably cause your eyes to roll up hard enough so that you are looking at your optic nerve. And it's not just "dutchsinse" that is famous for it, there are plenty others, and most of them now are seeking money since they have found that some people are gullible enough to send it. I have even nicknamed him "notmuchinsense" for some of the pseudoscience he has posted.
Loup
Loup
Here's a USGS map of the fault lines in North America. Wondering if the plate movement is coming across from the ever active West Coast or from the south considering the recent activity in Mexico or considering all the strange noise reports all over the world, if it is a global movement involving all the plates? There are several earthquake prophesies that have not been fulfilled, some described in a particular area, ME, and others as being worldwide. The scriptures describing the removal of people, describe people grinding at the mill and people working the fields, more of an agricultural based society. While there are many nations where that is the center of their living, I have often wondered if the natural events surrounding some of the prophesies will change the way everyone lives.
Hfcomms
EN66iq
That isn't what that graphic is showing willdo, need to be a little more careful about things like that. This graphic comes from this page: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/research/structure/crust/nam.php and comes with this additional image which shows the crust thickness in Km.
Figure 2. Crustal Thickness in kilometers, derived from a comprehensive compilation of seismic refraction and reflection data, earthquake studies, and surface wave analyses. One feature of this map is an extension of the thin crust of the Basin and Range Province into Western Canada. The contour interval is 10 km; in addition, we include the 45 km contour (dashed line).
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
There was a thread here or maybe it was over at the tree, or both, about six months ago about booms in Michigan, it was near those huge salt mines which run under one of the Great Lakes. Anyone else remember the story? If so and you find the thread lets add that location to the map as well. I'm still working on recovering all of my links I lost in the platform swap.
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packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
I'm in agreement here. But shouldn't be. I hardly ever watch him and just don't understand what he's talking about. So I try not to pass judgement on anyone if I can't even figure out what they're saying.
that's ok Dutchinse doesn't understand what he's talking about either, but so long as he makes money monetizing his youtube site he's more than happy to lead others astray.
hope4mil
Veteran Member
Here is a link to possibly the first recording of the Clintonville booms. It is hard to hear, in my opinion. Maybe somebody can enhance the sound.
Hope
http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/mysterious-booms-clintonville-wisconsin-16034542
Hope
http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/mysterious-booms-clintonville-wisconsin-16034542
