UNEX Unexplained Noises Shake Clintonville, WI - Louder and Stronger Than Before!
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packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
The whole NA plate is about to do the dosey doe! Ever have one of those tile games whne you were a kid where you slid plastic tiles around in a plastic holder to get the numbers in a certain sequence, of it was letters to spell a word, etc??? It's the same thing with the earth's plates. It started in 2004 with the Indonesian quake, then you have the Chilean and New Zealand quakes then Japan and then Chile and New Zealand again. Couple this with moster quakes that were mid plate in China, Haiti, the North Atlantic Ridge, etc., and well the next set of plates HAVE to move somewhere as that is a lot of pressure building up!
Reborn
Seeking Aslan's Country
Forgive my ignorance please, but you mentioned the next new moon here but not a full moon, and I was wondering why?
KrystalKlear
Inactive
Over the weekend I had some customers from the Oshkosh area. They said they heard about the booms being heard in Amherst, Fremont and Hortonville. I pretty much figured it was just ppl wanting to get attention in their towns and blew it off. Now I'm not so sure if that is the case.
These are very small communities. Do you think anyone has really checked around or maybe it's just not being reported.
These are very small communities. Do you think anyone has really checked around or maybe it's just not being reported.
rummer
Inactive
What is going on in west Michigan?
LoupGarou
Ancient Fuzzball
Full moon on April 6th, new moon on April 21st. The sunspot that caused most of the outbursts is still active, but not pointing this way anymore. It will be back in alignment about the same time that we will be having the new moon on the 21st.
Something may happen before then, but the probability ramps up a bit more then.
As always I will post something on the forum if they, or anybody else, have some interesting info, or if their program hits something.
Loup
Milk-maid
Girls with Guns Member
Perhaps you misunderstood. They live west of lake Michigan, in Wisconsin.
Reborn
Seeking Aslan's Country
Ah, so in this particular case it's a question of alignments between the moon and the sun(spots). Thanks, Loop. I think April is going to be an interesting month spiritually speaking.
As far as earthquakes go, I still haven't forgotten that 5.4 quake that happened in April of 2008. It may have happened in IL but it sure felt like the epicenter was right under our house.
Ora Rosarium
Contributing Member
Loup, you said
"This same friend of mine also pointed out that we were having earthquake clouds showing up the day and evening before the quake here a few days ago (and he alerted me before the quake happened to go look for them. They were running about 50 miles east of where I am, and probably ran for a few hundred miles, mainly southward. "
What are earthquake clouds? Thanks for such good information, you are so knowledgeable!
"This same friend of mine also pointed out that we were having earthquake clouds showing up the day and evening before the quake here a few days ago (and he alerted me before the quake happened to go look for them. They were running about 50 miles east of where I am, and probably ran for a few hundred miles, mainly southward. "
What are earthquake clouds? Thanks for such good information, you are so knowledgeable!
Hansa44
Justine Case
That's why I wathed that Dutchsinse video. He was showing satellite pictures of the steam? clouds over the east coast and AK and AL, Missouri, etc. He had been told they were from smoke but showed they all happened pretty much at the same time. And unless the whole of these states were coordinated to light their fires at exactly the same time, it just isn't the truth.
And what I see USGS doing, I am certain now they are not telling the truth about it being smoke.
All I can say is it's important to have your preps ready as possible. Especially water. Lots of water.
Moggy
Inactive
Limner
Deceased
Here are some pictures of the clouds, when standing on the ground:
http://pinewooddesign.co.uk/2008/05/12/earthquake-cloud-prediction/
I'm gonna be watching the clouds a bit more, now....
http://pinewooddesign.co.uk/2008/05/12/earthquake-cloud-prediction/
I'm gonna be watching the clouds a bit more, now....
LoupGarou
Ancient Fuzzball
Earthquake clouds are still a possible link, with most of the scientific community still not believing there is a link, and the other part looking into it as well as what history has to say about it.
I believe that they can be a precursor, but not always. A few other things than quakes building up can cause them, and not all quakes have them as a precursor event. They are usually thin strips of clouds that appear QUICKLY from clouds that are already there (like something takes strips out of them), or appear quickly from clear sky. Most of the time they appear to be stripped out of already existing clouds. Strong, very localized, temperature variations have something to do with it, and they HAVE been proven to occur before a lot of quakes.
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01431160500353890
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1696-temperature-rises-hint-at-earthquake-prediction.html
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/8...s-atmospheric-temp-spiked-before-japan-quake/
http://pinewooddesign.co.uk/2008/05/12/earthquake-cloud-prediction/
http://www.earthquakesignals.com/zhonghao296/A991003.html
The ones I saw the other night were changing rather quickly, and it happened about 5-6 hours before the quake here.
While I don't trust them as a foolproof sign, there is some relevance to them.
Loup
VesperSparrow
Goin' where the lonely go
There is a FB page called Clintonville, WI booms and someone on there said that there is indeed some company building a shelter around there....I couldn't find anything about it and they did not elaborate....
This is not quite on topic but I really want to give you all a heartfelt thank you. I always struggled with science and maths in school to the point I just gave up trying to learn and make sense of it. You all have made this fascinating and I have learned so much following along and going to the links you provide. This is what I wish school science had been like.
Sleeping Cobra
TB Fanatic
( Tin Foil ) Are they trying to open up The Great Lakes on purpose? Imagine the devastation it will cause.
Hansa44
Justine Case
Oh man...i don't know if you're joking or not but most of the huge shelters are west of the Miss. I'm afraid your thought crossed mine as well. Sure would eliminate a people problem. In fact everyone east of the Miss. Most of the food we use is west. Including Mexico.
Would also take care of the black issues as well. They'd fight for what's left with no idea how to get more. I also think the great majority of welfare problems is east of ol' Miss.
That's why I asked yesterday if one lake goes will they all go? No one answered.
LoupGarou
Ancient Fuzzball
Here in VA. My schedule is still to chaotic to get anything done like visiting any places like that.
Milk-maid said:
No, but the guys from V.T. are talking with departments at other universities. They are trying to get a "network" up of linked sensors so that they can monitor a larger area.
Loup
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Here's the problem with that.
I am a resident of GA, and know a little bit about our geography here.
There are 7 rock quarries listed when you google "quarries in Athens, GA"--but none of them are actually "IN" Athens.
In fact, many of those listed below are over 25 miles AWAY from Athens, or more.
And---since when can the USGS not be able to tell the difference between a blast for mining rock, and an earthquake???!?
The rock quarry 3 miles from my house (which is NOT one of the ones listed below) has blasting every day around noon, which slightly shakes my house, but the USGS has never mistaken one of THOSE for an earthquake.
Something's fishy, here...
Blue Sky Quarry
133 Rocky Dr, Crawford, GA 30630
14.5 Miles
Quarries Incorporation
Lexington Carlton Rd, Lexington, GA 30648
18.0 Miles
Lafarge Quarries Jackson County Quarries Jackson County
1626 Possum Creek RD, Jefferson, GA 30549
19.4 Miles
Martin Marietta Aggregates Auburn Quarry Auburn Quarry
301 Parks Mill Rd, Auburn, GA 30011
24.3 Miles
Broad River Stone
2191 Athens Highway, Elberton, GA 30635
26.3 Miles
Gainesville Quarry
2955 Candler Rd, Gainesville, GA 30507
27.1 Miles
Vulcan Materials Plant Locations Grayson Plant Plant Locations G...
1055 Ozora Rd, Loganville, GA 30052
29.0 Miles
Going off now to look for "mines" in Athens...
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Okay, here are "mines" in Athens.
Most appear not to be true "mines" (as in underground cavern operations) but rather companies that crush up various types of materials.
Mines in Athens:
(I would imagine that "crushing" already-quarried material would not make NEARLY the noise and concussion that an EXPLOSION to free that material would make -- as in the granite quarry down the road from me -- so again I ask: Does the USGS not know how to filter out things like quarry explosions, and tell the difference between that and a 2.0 quake?)
Most appear not to be true "mines" (as in underground cavern operations) but rather companies that crush up various types of materials.
Mines in Athens:
(I would imagine that "crushing" already-quarried material would not make NEARLY the noise and concussion that an EXPLOSION to free that material would make -- as in the granite quarry down the road from me -- so again I ask: Does the USGS not know how to filter out things like quarry explosions, and tell the difference between that and a 2.0 quake?)
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If its an operation that closed long ago it just may be it as the government does not go around telling everyone what they're doing or plan on doing. If not to far take a drive over that way and if their removing dirt and rock it should look like its in use from all the in and out traffic.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
This particular list was active quarries, not mines (that was the second list). Quarries would be open pits in the ground, not underground miles of caverns.
To my knowledge, the only true "mines" in Georgia are the old gold mines up in the mountains (near Dahlonega) and maybe some limestone ones down south (I don't know for sure about that). But most of the true "mines"--as in "underground"--that I've ever heard of around here were in the mountains---Athens is flatland...
Lilbitsnana
On TB every waking moment
Hanson Aggregates, CM. They're on Winterville rd in Athens.
http://www.athensgaweather.com/2012...12/03/athens-ga-mysterious-boom-answered.html
http://www.athensgaweather.com/2012...12/03/athens-ga-mysterious-boom-answered.html
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Ok--now you've got my attention-
because that is EXACTLY how the skies to the east (toward Athens) looked a few days ago.
We had expected rain all day, and gotten none, but toward sunset the sky looked just like some of those pictures...
I'll ask my husband if he remembers precisely what day it was...
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Is that a quarry or a mine?
It sounds like a quarry, from what I read.
I did note this from your link:
Hanson Aggregates is one of the world's largest suppliers of heavy building materials to the construction industry. They produce aggregates (crushed rock, sand and gravel), ready-mixed and precast concrete, asphalt and cement-related materials and a range of building products including concrete pipes, concrete pavers, tiles and clay bricks.
Hanson Aggregates, which is located near Winterville Road in Athens, Georgia, confirmed that they blasted something similar to dynamite around 2:30 p.m. EDT. They are located in between UGA campus and the Athens airport. They said the blast this afternoon was much larger than usual, and it was probably why so many people noticed it. These explosions typically occur once or twice a month, and are typically never heard or felt.
But again---the USGS can't tell the diff between a quarry blast and an earthquake?
And the quarry 3 miles from me---they blast all the time, and the USGS never seems to get "confused" about them...
Very....'confusing'....
Lilbitsnana
On TB every waking moment
Surface mining...so a quarry.
Some stories just seem to have serious "traction" and I have felt this way about the Clintonville event since it began.
The hallmark of a good news story is that it is multi-faceted and appeals to many different interests.
What we have is a very unique event that eludes any kind of immediate explanation. We have a true mystery on our hands.
It is almost but not quite humorous watching the public safety authorities flounder about and initially almost ignore the story, then feign modest interest when it could not be ignored and then clutch with almost sheer desperation to a flimsy explanation by the USGS that reeks with haste and institutional indifference.
The MSM seems stymied by the lack of a dead body, racial or political agenda they can perpetuate so they are very slow to embrace the story and to commit any real resources to actually bother to –investigate- what is going on. Even the “human interest” angle evades the media since we are dealing with a very small town populated (in the media’s mind) by a group of rather ordinary rubes whose well being is of little concern to the Big Media Agenda. There are too many other more “important” stories to pursue.
Then we have our friends in the mainstream scientific community slavishly dedicated to maintaining the status quo of “scientific understanding” and almost totally unwilling to embrace an event that does not neatly fit into an agenda that directly results in scientific grants or glad handed back slapping adulation from neatly structured peer groups.
So there you have it, a fascinating mystery that no single entity wishes to take ownership of.
The hallmark of a good news story is that it is multi-faceted and appeals to many different interests.
What we have is a very unique event that eludes any kind of immediate explanation. We have a true mystery on our hands.
It is almost but not quite humorous watching the public safety authorities flounder about and initially almost ignore the story, then feign modest interest when it could not be ignored and then clutch with almost sheer desperation to a flimsy explanation by the USGS that reeks with haste and institutional indifference.
The MSM seems stymied by the lack of a dead body, racial or political agenda they can perpetuate so they are very slow to embrace the story and to commit any real resources to actually bother to –investigate- what is going on. Even the “human interest” angle evades the media since we are dealing with a very small town populated (in the media’s mind) by a group of rather ordinary rubes whose well being is of little concern to the Big Media Agenda. There are too many other more “important” stories to pursue.
Then we have our friends in the mainstream scientific community slavishly dedicated to maintaining the status quo of “scientific understanding” and almost totally unwilling to embrace an event that does not neatly fit into an agenda that directly results in scientific grants or glad handed back slapping adulation from neatly structured peer groups.
So there you have it, a fascinating mystery that no single entity wishes to take ownership of.
Sleeping Cobra
TB Fanatic
And according to the navy map ( ? ) is not the state of Wisconsin under water? I believe so.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
For those who haven't seen it:
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Frugal Bob
Veteran Member
Here is Stan Deyo's map
But quarries operations can dig into the ground at a right angel to the pit and I live in West Virginia where they done this many times, most of Martinsburg WV was under mined years ago and some of the people that use to work in them say there are carved out rooms 10 acres in size and said most are now flooded without the pumps. The local government had to fill in some of the old quarries because people were going into them and end up lost, good thing someone knew where they were or they would still be there.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
bw
Fringe Ranger
28,000 square miles of wetlands? That's what it takes before "predominately" is the word. A quick net search turns up a statement that in 1780 Iowa had about 11% wetlands. Add 39% more to that and you can barely start to talk about "predominate". Sorry, I don't buy it. But then, I didn't take any classes at ISU. I was at Drake.
WisconsinGardener
Loony Member
Well, being less than 30 miles from Clintonville, and only 10 miles from Hortonville (where sounds are also supposed to be being heard now, according to sources posted in this thread - I can't personally vouch for that), I would really like to know what's going on over there! I will let you know immediately if the noises reach here.