DISASTER Fukushima Reactor Disaster: MAIN THREAD - Five Year Anniversary

It'sJustMe

Deceased
There appears to be some black smoke rising from the power plant at 12:00 their time. I like this Japanese version of the Tepco cam, because it posts the time, and the regular Tepco one doesn't. I saw this particular plume starting out as gray smoke about an hour ago, and now it seems to be intensifying. They sure don't need any more fires or explosions there, that's for sure.

http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/f1-np/camera/index-j.html
 

mslucky

Inactive
http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/

NEWS ADVISORY: Over 1,000 millisieverts per hour found in water at No.2 reactor
11:35 27 March


NEWS ADVISORY: Radioactive iodine 1,850 times limit in sea near plant, up from Fri.
11:31 27 March


NEWS ADVISORY: Pool of water at No.2 reactor may be from reactor core: safety agency
11:29 27 March


NEWS ADVISORY: Pool of water at Fukushima's No.2 reactor contains high radioactivity
 
2.9 Billion becquerel per cubic cm in the water in the turbine room in #2.

edit 10 million times more than water in other locations (turbine buildings) - materials (isotopes with short half life) indicate fission by-product, reactor core likely source.

Leakage route (radioactive water) yet to be confirmed.

Levels too high to allow work, efforts will be considered to pump the contaminated water into temp storage
of condenser units.


Per NHK

Video news feed which repeats about every 20 minutes - very informative:

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/r/movie/index.html


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minkykat

Komplainy Kat
www3.nhk.or.jp

Radiation levels 40 percent higher than the yearly limit for the general public has been detected just over 30 kilometers from the Fukushima Daiichi power plant.

The Science Ministry says a reading of 1.4 millisieverts was taken on Wednesday morning in Namie Town northwest of the plant.

The government has not told residents outside the 30-kilometer radius of the plant to evacuate, or even to stay indoors.

Someone staying outdoors for 24-hours at that location would exceed the annual limit of one millisievert. The limit is based on a recommendation by the International Commission on Radiological Protection.

The science ministry obtained the reading after monitoring 10 locations outside the 30-kilometer zone, following reports that relatively high levels of radiation were found outside that area.


But remember people, radiation is GOOD for you!
 

Be Well

may all be well
People should devoted to Truth, not "causes". I think it's pretty clear that nuke plants are all ticking time bombs. If external electricity goes off for any length of time, even without tsunamis or EQs, they're all going to be in ruins. And causing suffering and death and destruction all around. I knew this decades ago when I decided to study up on nuke plants. And the comparison that coal and oil plants etc do as much damage is idiocy. No other form of electricity has the potential to contaminate huge areas for decades or longer.

And guess what - people can use less electiricty. Civilization doesn't mean how much useless electric toys people use mindlessly, it means something a lot deeper. So many people right now are like two legged animals with gadgets.
 

Be Well

may all be well
Thank YOU to all the wonderful news here.

If radiation is so harmless, let all those cheerleaders go to Japan as volunteers and help in the 30 kl range - there are many homeless and suffering people who need help. Sheesh, I bet TEPCO could use some help at the plant, too!
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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Japan Soil Measurements Surprisingly High

by Jocelyn Kaiser on 25 March 2011, 6:14 PM

Concerns about radiation in Japan have now spread to the soil surrounding the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear reactor. One level that was reported this week was high enough to suggest people in that area should be evacuated, an expert says. But he cautions that it's hard to draw conclusions about these spot measurements without more data.

Today, Japanese officials told the population living up to 30 kilometers from the plant that they should consider leaving the area, expanding the previous 20-kilometer radius evacuation zone. But according to news reports, the advice stems from difficulties in supplying the region with food and water, not radiation levels.

Meanwhile, on Wednesday the Japanese science ministry began to report measurements of cesium-137 in upland soil around the plant. The levels are highest from two points northeast of the plant, ranging from 8690 becquerels/kilogram to a high of 163,000 Bq/kg measured on 20 March from a point in Iitate about 40 kilometers northwest of the Fukushima plant.

The soil measurements are more significant for evacuation purposes than radioactivity in the air, says nuclear engineer Shih-Yew Chen of Argonne National Laboratory in Illinois, because cesium dust stays underfoot while air is transient. Levels of cesium-137 are also more important than soil readings of iodine-131, which is short-lived and more of a concern in milk and vegetables. "It's the cesium that would prompt an evacuation," says Chen.

Based on a rough estimate, a person standing on soil with 163,000 Bq/kg of cesium-137 would receive about 150 millisieverts per year of radiation, says Chen. This is well above the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency standard of 50 millisieverts per year for an evacuation. (Per day, it's 0.41 millisieverts, which is equivalent to four chest x-rays.) But Chen adds, "one point [of data] doesn't mean that much."

The hot spot is similar to levels found in some areas affected by the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear reactor accident in the former Soviet Union. Assuming the radiation is no more than 2 centimeters deep, Chen calculates that 163,000 Bq/kg is roughly equivalent to 8 million Bq/m2. The highest cesium-137 levels in some villages near Chernobyl were 5 million Bq/m2.

http://enenews.com/cesium-137-soil-40-km-fukushima-highest-levels-found-chernobyl
 
2.9 Billion becquerel per cubic cm in the water in the turbine room in #2.

edit 10 million times more than water in other locations (turbine buildings) - materials (isotopes with short half life) indicate fission by-product, reactor core likely source.

Leakage route (continuous leak of radioactive water) yet to be confirmed.

Levels too high to allow work, efforts will be considered to pump the contaminated water into temp storage
of condenser units.


Per NHK

Video news feed which repeats about every 20 minutes - very informative:

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/r/movie/index.html

Repeating post since I've seen about three dupes of my posts during the last 100 posts.

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Y2kO

Inactive
Another source of info --

Weather Models Show High Levels of Radiation Entering U.S. from Japan
Kurt Nimmo, Infowars.com
March 26, 2011

On Saturday, Yukiya Amano, the director of the United Nations’ International Atomic Energy Agency, said the Japanese nuclear crisis could go on for weeks, if not for months.

Test conducted Friday showed iodine 131 levels in seawater 30 km (19 miles) from the coastal Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant had spiked 1,250 times higher than normal. Japanese officialdom insisted this unusual level does not pose a threat to marine life or food safety, according to Reuters.

“Ocean currents will disperse radiation particles and so it will be very diluted by the time it gets consumed by fish and seaweed,” said Hidehiko Nishiyama, a senior agency official.

A number of countries have banned milk and produce from areas around the Fukushima Daiichi plant, while others have been monitoring Japanese seafood.

Amano told the media the Japanese have no idea if the reactor cores and spent fuel were covered with the water needed to cool them and prevent the release of radiation. “More efforts should be done to put an end to the accident,” he said and was carefully not to criticize Japan’s lackadaisical response.

An official from plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO) told a Sunday news conference experts still are not certain where to put the contaminated water.

Scientists quoted by the corporate media continue to insist that radioactive particles crossing the Pacific are far too diluted to cause any harm.

In fact, scientists are complaining that the Japanese have not fowarded sufficient information on the nuclear meltdown. They say the quality and quantity of information coming out of Japan has left gaping holes in their understanding of the disaster nearly two weeks after it began.

Independent researchers, however, dispute claims that the radiation now lofting over the northern hemisphere is not dangerous. The Weather Online website has posted a number animated models showing dangerous concentrations of iodine 131 and caesium 137 entering the United States with prevailing weather and the jet stream.

The site notes that since the continuous release rate is very uncertain, the calculations have to be interpreted qualitatively.

Here is a video posted earlier today showing the animations:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JDNJEW8MJs&feature=player_embedded
http://www.woweather.com/weather/news/fukushima?LANG=us&VAR=webcam&SAT=201103260800


Addendum

“An international advisory body has recommended the Japanese government temporarily raise the annual limit of radiation exposure for the general public in light of the ongoing crisis at the quake- and tsunami-crippled nuclear power plant in Fukushima Prefecture,” reports The Mainichi Daily News.

“The government stipulates that regular citizens in Japan should be exposed to no more than 1 millisievert of radiation per year, but the International Commission on Radiological Protection (ICRP) on March 21 recommended the limit be tentatively raised to 20 to 100 millisieverts per year, with the nuclear crisis showing no signs of abating.”

The NGO said the level of permissible radiation should be increased “in order to prevent residents of Fukushima Prefecture from abandoning their hometowns.”
 

Y2kO

Inactive
Cascadians:
It seems reasonable to wish the Japanese ppl and culture and expertise could be saved. There is hardly any time left. They need to be evacuated before they are so radiation contaminated that other countries are afraid to take them.

Exactly! And when it really hits the fan, who is going to fly in there to get them? This is going to be a real issue.
 

onetimer

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Something about the workers are being evacuated pronto right now...

BreakingNews Breaking News
Radioactivity in water at Fukushima reactor No. 2 is 10 million times usual level; workers evacuated - local media via Reuters
11 minutes ago
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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I'm still not clear how highly radioactive reactor water got into the turbine building.

Either some pipes are broken/cracked or (amazingly) the floor is shared by the two buildings?
 

Rex Jackson

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Millions should have been evacuated on Day two. As nice and as comforting it is to hear encouraging words, the price paid for miscalculation is the death of human beings. There are not options here. Evacuate the people first, play blown up nuclear reactor second. Anything less is murder and genocide.

The way this is being handled is pathetic and the leadership in Japan should be held accountable.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Millions should have been evacuated on Day two. As nice and as comforting it is to hear encouraging words, the price paid for miscalculation is the death of human beings. There are not options here. Evacuate the people first, play blown up nuclear reactor second. Anything less is murder and genocide.

The way this is being handled is pathetic and the leadership in Japan should be held accountable.

the way this is being handled is in accordance with the Georgia Guidestones.
 
I'm still not clear how highly radioactive reactor water got into the turbine building.

Either some pipes are broken/cracked or (amazingly) the floor is shared by the two buildings?

Most likely pipes routed from and to the reactor two building.

Usually steam travels to the turbine building, spins the turbine, then to a condenser (converting steam back to water) which flows back to the reactor building. Simplified explanation, more than two pipes and valves are involved.

It is theorized material breached from the core of the reactor and has traveled with water through piping and flooded the turbine room floor. Again simplified, valves, seals and multiple lines are involved.


It is also being theorized some of this water is somehow being released into the ocean through the seawater outlets of the power plant resulting in increasing contamination of seawater - currently at 1800 times normal.

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It'sJustMe

Deceased
Here's some more on your story, Tom, with number details. Fair use:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42280076/ns/world_news-asiapacific

Radiation 10 million times normal at Japan nuclear plant
Radioactive water 'almost certainly' seeping from a reactor core, official says

TOKYO — Radioactivity in water at one earthquake-crippled Japanese nuclear reactor soared to 10 million times its usual level Sunday, prompting the plant operator to evacuate workers, local media reported.


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3. Dangerous breach feared at Japan nuke site
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The report about Fukushima Dai-ichi reactor Unit 2 came as Tokyo Electric Power Co. workers were grappling with how to remove and store highly radioactive water pooling there and in two other troubled units.

TEPCO spokesman Takashi Kurita told reporters Sunday that leaked water in Unit 2 measured at 1,000 millisieverts per hour. That's 10 million times higher than the radioactivity level when the reactor is operating normally, or roughly the same as 89 CT scans, according to NBC News experts.

The nuclear power plant in northeastern Japan has been leaking radiation making its way into food and water.

The discovery of puddles with radiation levels 10,000 times the norm sparked a temporary evacuation of the plant on Thursday. Two workers who stepped into the water were hospitalized with possible burns.

The development set back feverish efforts to start up a crucial cooling system knocked out in a massive March 11 earthquake and tsunami, but has helped experts get closer to determining the source of the dangerous leak.

Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano, speaking Sunday on TV talk shows, said the radioactive water is "almost certainly" seeping from a reactor core.


Workers were focusing Sunday on extracting the contaminated water from three of the plant's six reactors and trying to find a safe place to store or dispose of it, TEPCO officials said.

Officials were also aiming to get the lights on in a fourth unit, TEPCO said.

It has been more than two weeks since the magnitude-9 quake erupted off the coast, triggering a tsunami that swallowed up cities and left a swath of devastation along Japan's northeast.

The wave also engulfed and damaged the Fukushima power plant, creating a nuclear crisis that has threatened to overshadow efforts to care for hundreds of thousands of homeless and address the global economic fallout created by the twin disasters.

Radiation levels in the sea off the Fukushima Daiichi plant rose on Sunday to 1,850 times normal just over two weeks after the disaster struck, from 1,250 on Saturday, Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said.

The radiation particles will be dispersed and diluted, however, posing no threat to marine life or food safety, a senior agency official said.

"There is no need to worry about health risks," Hidehiko Nishiyama said.

The government has voiced criticism of TEPCO's handling of the crisis following a series of missteps in recent days.
Video: Nuke expert on risks of a breached reactor

Edano urged TEPCO to be more transparent after Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, or NISA, revealed that the plant operator was aware there was high radiation in the air at one unit several days before the two workers were burned.

"Regardless of whether there was an awareness of high radioactivity in the stagnant water, there were problems in the way work was conducted," Nishiyama said Saturday.

NISA warned TEPCO to improve and ensure workers' safety, and TEPCO has taken measures to that effect, Nishiyama said, without elaborating.

TEPCO spokesman Hajime Motojuku declined to comment late Saturday.


The protracted nuclear crisis has spurred concerns about the safety of food and water in Japan, which is a prime source of seafood for some countries.

Radiation has been found in milk, seawater and a range of vegetables, including broccoli, cauliflower and turnips.

Tap water in several areas of Japan, including Tokyo, showed higher-than-normal levels of radiation, prompting officials to distribute bottled water to families with infants.
 

Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
Radiation 10 million times normal​

Turned on TV, not on news anywhere.
No doubt they will have to dump that water into the ocean.
And it's gushing into the ocean non-stop from outlets.

This is a problem, despite the happy face news blackout or bland reassurances.

Operation Extension Hose / Garden Hose is not working.
 

Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/gcce5/radiation_10milliontimes_normal_levels_detected/

Tokyo Electric Power Company says it has detected radioactive materials 10-million-times normal levels in water at the No.2 reactor complex of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

The plant operator, known as TEPCO, says it measured 2.9-billion becquerels of radiation per one cubic centimeter of water from the basement of the turbine building attached to the Number 2 reactor.

The level of contamination is about 1,000 times that of the leaked water already found in the basements of the Number 1 and 3 reactor turbine buildings.

The company says the latest reading is 10-million times the usual radioactivity of water circulating within a normally operating reactor. TEPCO says the radioactive materials include 2.9-billion becquerels of iodine-134, 13-million becquerels of iodine-131, and 2.3-million becquerels each for cesium 134 and 137.

These substances are emitted during nuclear fission inside a reactor core. [ain't in cold shutdown ]

The company says the extremely contaminated water may stem from a damaged reactor core, and are trying to determine how the leakage occurred.

University of Tokyo graduate school professor Naoto Sekimura says the leak may come from the suppression chamber of the Number 2 reactor, which is known to be damaged. The chamber is designed to contain overflows of radioactive substances from the reactor.
 
One of the posters over at Market Ticker wrote:

2.9 Billion becquerel per cubic cm

or

78,378 curies per cubic meter

Does that help?

In simple language: Stay moments and die quickly and horribly.




Initially the post read: TEPCO spokesman Takashi Kurita told reporters Sunday that leaked water in Unit 2 measured at (OVER) 1,000 millisieverts per hour.

The giga becquerel per cubic cm is certainly over 1,000 millisieverts per hour.

Currently this release is localized to the plant area (specifically the turbine house for reactor two) and possibly the ocean.

One can hope this huge figure is a mis-quote.


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Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
Nothing to see here. Radiation is good for you. It can't hop over a few miles. Go play in the rain, eat some spinach and drink some milk. Exceeding 10 million times normal INSIDE THE NUCLEAR REACTOR is less than you get walking to your car from the store. That rock over there is more dangerous. So go put on your bikini and catch some rays. La.tee.da.da
 

onetimer

Has No Life - Lives on TB
University of Tokyo graduate school professor Naoto Sekimura says the leak may come from the suppression chamber of the Number 2 reactor, which is known to be damaged. The chamber is designed to contain overflows of radioactive substances from the reactor.

The guy on the CNIC_JAPAN said that chamber is not shaped like a doughnut but is curved using angles and these welded angles are a weak point.
 
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Originally Posted by Cascadians View Post
University of Tokyo graduate school professor Naoto Sekimura says the leak may come from the suppression chamber of the Number 2 reactor, which is known to be damaged. The chamber is designed to contain overflows of radioactive substances from the reactor.

The guy on the CNIC_JAPAN said that chamber is not shaped like a doughnut but is curved using angles and these welded angles are a weak point.

...and possibly traveling through pipes which should be valved in closed positions - to the turbine building.

I use possibly since so much water has been dumped around the facility there may be a wash out around the pipes coming from *under reactor two. ETA - under, around, quake damage - some path outside the norm.

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minkykat

Komplainy Kat
Nothing to see here. Radiation is good for you. It can't hop over a few miles. Go play in the rain, eat some spinach and drink some milk. Exceeding 10 million times normal INSIDE THE NUCLEAR REACTOR is less than you get walking to your car from the store. That rock over there is more dangerous. So go put on your bikini and catch some rays. La.tee.da.da
Good to see you back!
 

Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
Or maybe the Corium is busy drilling a lava hole down to the right-there water table (Pacific Ocean) and the water is lapping back up, propelled by steam jolts and magma fission. Another kind of EQ liquefaction known to occur under nuclear plants.
 

Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
Thx MinkyKat, haven't slept for 3 nights, Newfy been restless, shouldn't be posting, kinda punchy, 10 million frikkin times and probably much more since their recorder went to max right away.
 
It occurs to me this release as reported is one which is worsening. As indicated by the measurements of the contamination of the seawater. The 1850 times over norm Saturday, was up from Friday, one may watch the levels over the next few days to see if the trend continues.

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Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
Oh, only 3 at once experiencing catastrophic failure. No problem. Did you know Liz Taylor was interred near her friend Michael Jackson? At Forest Lawn Glendale. Traffic there has really gone up. More at 11.
 
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