DISASTER Fukushima Reactor Disaster: MAIN THREAD - Five Year Anniversary

rafter

Since 1999
You better put down your NCAA grid too!:lol: It' already a global disaster with two! If they don't get the generators fired back up today, the other two could also blow. There sure is alot of farm land world wide that will have radiation dust coming down on it. Look at all the contaminated food, and meat that people will eat and die. Are you still sure you feel this way?:shr:

OK...what did I miss? Last I heard we had nothing to worry about. Now we won't be able to grow crops or food? Please explain!!!!
 

Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
Yet another group not making their findings public

Amazing how many groups are modeling data but won't be making their findings public. Once again it emphasizes that we're on our own for exact specific knowledge, can't count on .gov

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/mar/17/japan-nuclear-crisis-tsunami-aftermath

2.40pm (11.40pm JST): My colleague, James Randerson, has sent this:

I've just been speaking to the UK Met Office to ask whether they have been looking at how any radioactive material escaping from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant into the atmosphere might be moving. A spokesman told me that they are looking at "sophisticated" dispersion models of the type that were used last year to predict which way the volcanic ash cloud from Iceland was travelling.

"They are quite sophisticated models. They do have a fair amount of detail in them," he said. For example they include the particle size, wind direction and precipitation as parameters and can be used to predict how far material is likely to have travelled over the course of days.

The spokesman said that the Met Office is providing regular briefings to Cobra - the government's emergency committee - on the situation but he said the modelling would not be made public. When I asked why not he said that the lead agency - so-called Regional Specialised Meteorological Centre - was the Japan Meteorological Agency and that there would be a risk of putting out conflicting or contradictory information.

The Met Office's other involvement is to inform the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) of the situation. In this case, he said that the Met Office is acting as a conduit for information from the Japanese authorities on the basics of what has happened so far (for example location, time etc). The Met Office is not sharing its dispersion models with the ICAO.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
Friggin reporters..............

I wondered when the report came out at the higher amount, 1000 times higher, if it was in error, the fuel pools had gone bone dry or the "information management" had collapsed.

I still wonder. While 3750 Milli was HUGE, 3750 micro is awfully low for all that has taken place. I would REALLY like to have accurate figures.


No flipping kidding!! When I saw that dose rate I had flashbacks to the effects of a real downwind nuclear burst. At 3750 milli you could receive a leathal dose in an hour or so at that rate. If it was that high your only protection is underground with a lot of shielding.
 

MickeyMouse

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey Thomason
Fly over of site from yesterday afternoon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBXqiw6EJUk


Sure would like to be able to examine that frame by frame!!! Too fast and jerky to really see much.
 

Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/mar/17/japan-nuclear-crisis-tsunami-aftermath

3.11pm (12.11a, JST): Japan's military says it has sprayed 30 tonnes of water into the building containing Fukushima's reactor No 3, using five water cannon trucks. The operation has now ended for the day, according to NHK.
The military says that while the water reached the inside of the building it is not known whether it got to its target, the storage pool containing spent fuel rods, which could overheat dangerously if not kept covered.
 

Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
More Info!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12773350
17 March 2011 Last updated at 11:02 ET, by Richard Black

Choppers and cannons bring no nuclear relief

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The attempt to use helicopters to dump seawater on to the Fukushima power station is almost certainly unprecedented in more than half a century of nuclear power operations around the world.

And the long-range video images coming in indicate why it is not a method in general use: it does not appear to work.

The helicopters flew in some way above the reactor buildings, and went past without hovering - presumably because of fears of radiation.

Later, at a news conference given by the Tokyo Electric Power Company (Tepco), a spokesman said they were not able to tell whether any of the water had been successfully delivered.

In the absence of hard facts from the ground, the video footage is the only evidence we have on how much of the 60 tonnes of seawater delivered onto the site actually hit their target - the building containing reactor number 3.

Do watch, and judge for yourself how much fell on the square building and how much floated away on the wind.

While many reports have suggested the water was intended to cool the reactors, the actual target was the cooling pool (or pond) in building number 3, just below what remains of the roof ripped apart by a hydrogen gas explosion three days previously.

The reactors sit within containment systems designed to be sealed tight, and which appear to be intact, with the possible exception of a crack in a vessel attached to number 3 reactor; so dumping water from the air would not have any impact.

Earlier reports said the pond in number 4 building would also be targeted. This probably contains many more fuel rods than the pond in number 3, because at the time of the earthquake reactors 4, 5 and 6 were shut down for scheduled maintenance, which involved removing all the fuel.

The worst-case scenario would see the ponds starting to emit serious amounts of radiation, with some of the reactors going into a meltdown phase”

The company said that because steam was rising from building 3, they targeted that one first - though it is not clear whether the steam was coming from the cooling pond or the reactor, which has been suffering from cooling problems ever since emergency power ran out following Friday's tsunami.

The company noted that at 1000 local time, radiation levels were four times higher around building 3 than building 4.

However, the building 4 pond still clearly has a problem.

On Wednesday, the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC), which has a team of 11 experts advising in Japan, said the pond was completely dry - though this assessment has been challenged by the company.

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) released a bulletin giving temperatures in the ponds measured on different days.

Readings for building 4's pond on Tuesday and Wednesday were both 84C - way above normal, and about 25C higher than the equivalent ponds in buildings 5 and 6.

Thursday's entry for building 4 reads: "no data".

The tops of the rods are supposed to be about 5m (16ft) below the water surface.

Without sufficient water around the rods, they get hot, increasing the chances of radioactive substances being released. Already it appears that the cladding around some of the fuel rods has been damaged - possibly by fire - releasing hydrogen.

The helicopters' water-lifting gear is more commonly deployed on forest fires
"If this is damaged - and we suspect it must be - you've got radionuclides being produced and going upwards because of the fire," said Andrew Sherry, director of the Dalton Nuclear Institute at the University of Manchester.

"[Without water] the immediate outlook is that the fire and the generation of hydrogen will continue, so we've got quite an unstable situation."

The absence of water also reduces the extent to which workers are shielded from radiation, with gamma rays able to pass into the air unobstructed.

More remarkably, Tepco warned on Wednesday: "The possibility of re-criticality is not zero".

This meant that in the company's view, it was possible that enough fissile uranium was present in the cooling pond in enough density to form a critical mass.

In other words, a nuclear fission chain reaction could start in a pond that lies outside parts of the building designed to contain radioactive materials.

So how much material is there in the pond in building 4?

Clues come from a presentation given by a Tepco employee at a conference on fuel storage last November.

It confirms that the cooling ponds had been "re-racked" - in other words, they were storing more fuel rods than allowed for in the original design.

This is neither uncommon nor unsafe, provided that the rods are properly spaced - although it may mean that additional measures are needed to prevent criticality, such as the use of solid boron sheets or the addition of boric acid into the water, to absorb the neutrons that sustain a chain reaction.

The presentation shows an abundance of spent fuel rods at the plant, taking up 84% of the available space in the various storage facilities.

The dry storage facility was completely full, while a big cooling pool away from the reactors contained 6,291 rods - the maximum allowed being 6,840.


This left a further 3,450 rods distributed between the pools in the six reactor buildings.

How they were distributed is not known.

But it suggests that the pools in buildings 4, 5 and 6 may have been very full at the time of the earthquake, given that any older stored rods would have been supplemented by those taken from the reactors for maintenance.

If "re-criticality" did materialise, it would lead to the enhanced and sustained release of radioactive materials - though not to a nuclear explosion - with nothing to stop the radioactive particles escaping.

While the authorities are keen to re-fill the pools with water, this, paradoxically, would increase any risk of criticality, as water without boric acid in it aids the chain reaction.

Re-criticality seems an extraordinary thing to contemplate; but if it is not a real possibility, why was such an idea floated by the company itself?

Core task

Away from the fuel cooling ponds, the most important task remains to get enough water flowing into reactors 1, 2 and 3 to cool the cores.

There have been no reports of explosions or sudden spikes of radioactivity since Wednesday morning - possibly suggesting that technicians have had some success in keeping water flowing into those three reactors.

Even at its worst, Fukushima will not be a replay of Chernobyl

Low radiation levels are also essential for allowing technicians to continue their work around the site.

The most optimistic note for a long time is the growing prospect of restoring electrical power to the station.

Both a grid connection and portable generators are due to arrive - possibly on a timescale of hours.

That should allow technicians to re-start the main pumps - provided that the site's internal electrical circuitry is intact, and that pumps have not been damaged by the earthquake, the tsunami or the explosions.

"It's clear that this is going to help significantly, because it'll allow them to start the pumps to re-circulate water both in the reactors and in the fuel ponds, because the water is constantly re-circulating," said Dr Sherry.

Best and worst

The most optimistic scenario now is that electrical power is restored, all the pumps work, and seawater mixed with boric acid can be pumped up to proper levels in all the reactors and all the cooling ponds.

There would still be some release of radioactivity, because steam would probably need to be vented from the reactors - and if there is a crack in the containment system of reactor 2, that might continue to leak steam as well.

But that would in all probability be all, with all the problematic issues under control within a few days.

On the other hand, the worst-case sequence of events would see the electrical connection not working for some reason, and further problems cooling the reactors, leading to more damage to containment systems.

That would mean more heat in the reactors, more heat in the fuel ponds, more release of radioactivity - perhaps keeping workers from doing what is needed now to stabilise the situation.

Sir John Beddington, the UK government's chief scientific adviser, said on Thursday that the situation had recently changed - which is why the UK issued fresh advice to people in Japan based on a new assessment of the worst-case scenario.

"The worst-case scenario would see the ponds starting to emit serious amounts of radiation, with some of the reactors going into a meltdown phase," he told BBC News.

"We put that together with [a possible scenario of] extremely unfavourable weather conditions - wind in the direction of Tokyo, for example.

"Even in that situation, the radiation that we believe could come into the Tokyo area is such that you could mitigate it with relatively straightforward measures, for example staying indoors and keeping the windows closed."
 

MickeyMouse

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Originally Posted by Warthog
You better put down your NCAA grid too!:lol: It' already a global disaster with two! If they don't get the generators fired back up today, the other two could also blow. There sure is alot of farm land world wide that will have radiation dust coming down on it. Look at all the contaminated food, and meat that people will eat and die. Are you still sure you feel this way?:shr:

OK...what did I miss? Last I heard we had nothing to worry about. Now we won't be able to grow crops or food? Please explain!!!!

Who gives a crap about basketball? Sports is one of our BIGGEST problems - people sit in front of TV watching some stupid kids game rather than educating themselves about the world around them. Memorize a bunch of worthless trivia but have no idea about things that matter.
OK, rant off!!


Rafter, we still have nothing to worry about. Why would others "blow" they are not yet out of control. The food contamination issue, in the US at least, is nothing but an excuse to drive up prices. Even if it happened, anyone with a proper prep pantry would mostly say ho hum.

We can continue to grow crops, produce food, and SAFELY eat that food.

As of yet no widespread radioactive material of suffient amount to pose a risk, EVEN IN JAPAN! The background rates in Tokyo are nearly normal and lower than in Rome for crying out loud.

Take a deep breath folks, exhale slowly. No need to panic. Stop getting news from highly biased left wing sources.

RELAX. There is PLENTY of time to panic if events justify it!!!
 

jehu

Mapper of Landmarks
Rafter, we still have nothing to worry about. Why would others "blow" they are not yet out of control. The food contamination issue, in the US at least, is nothing but an excuse to drive up prices. Even if it happened, anyone with a proper prep pantry would mostly say ho hum.

We can continue to grow crops, produce food, and SAFELY eat that food.

RELAX. There is PLENTY of time to panic if events justify it!!!


MAYBE.

The fact that the reactors are too hot to have an accurate helicopter drop should speak volumes. Why aren't they bringing in personnel to bring this under control?

The issue is that this is cooking constantly and any comparisons to Chernobyl are not large enough. This is many times worse than Chern.
The ONLY thing that is working in our favor at the moment is the wind-direction.

This is being spread out to sea, and not over habitated areas.

The biggest question is "HOW MUCH of the radai will be dropped into the ocean vs. floating over to the US to land via rain and snow?

If all 4 reactors are or become exposed and all 4 storage pools are or become exposed this will be emitting 1000'sX more radiation than Chern.
 
USA Navy evacuating military families. Authorized by POTUS.

Women and children first! Then, nonessential, then essential...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG2h4AVpo70&feature=player

VOLUNTARY.
http://www.stripes.com/news/pacific...tary-evacuation-of-families-in-japan-1.137999

The U.S. military began voluntary evacuations Thursday at four military bases in Japan following increasing worries over nuclear reactors damaged in the country’s largest recorded earthquake.

The Navy said Thursday afternoon it would start evacuating families from Naval Air Facility Atsugi and Yokosuka Naval Base, near Tokyo. A few hours later, officials at Misawa Air Base, in northern Japan, did the same. Camp Zama, a U.S. Army facility near Tokyo, said it was allowing families and non-essential workers to voluntarily leave.

In a radio address Thursday afternoon, Col. Otto Feather, 374th Airlift Wing commander, said he expects Yokota Air Base to join the list soon.

“For those folks that really want to go, I think we’re going to be able to offer an opportunity in the next couple of days, or so, to make that happen,” Feather said in a release on the Yokota website.
 

undead

Veteran Member
I am confused.


If hooking up power lines to get the water pumps restarted is going to fix everything, then why didn't they bring in as many industrial diesel generators as they needed days ago to accomplish the very same thing?



This inquiring mind wants to know.


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amazon

Veteran Member
JT, It didn't sound like it on the vid. I didn't think essential personnel would get a say on when they evacuate?! Strange. I'm sure they've been inundated w/ requests to leave though.
 

Kaydee

Veteran Member
I am confused.


If hooking up power lines to get the water pumps restarted is going to fix everything, then why didn't they bring in as many industrial diesel generators as they needed days ago to accomplish the very same thing?



This inquiring mind wants to know.


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Amen to that! And why did it take them 5 DAYS after the quake/tsunami to decide to bulldoze a road in for access? And as I read on Kyodo--one failure was due to the techs "forgetting" to refill the fuel on a generastor running water pumps. There are just too darn many WTF moments in this whole thing.
 

eens

Nuns with Guns
MAYBE.


This is being spread out to sea, and not over habitated areas.

The biggest question is "HOW MUCH of the radai will be dropped into the ocean vs. floating over to the US to land via rain and snow?

My question is what is this doing to the ocean life? Does it affect it?
 

LONEWOLF

Inactive
undead, you're right. That's why millions of people are wondering what the real "reality" is instead of the fairy tales they've been spoon-fed thus far......
 
I am confused.


If hooking up power lines to get the water pumps restarted is going to fix everything, then why didn't they bring in as many industrial diesel generators as they needed days ago to accomplish the very same thing?



This inquiring mind wants to know.


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Hooking up the power lines really only means we can completely stop worrying about Units 5 & 6. 3 & 4 are the real concern and they need water in the pools.

Of course having main power on site is advantageous. It's not a panacea though.
 

Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42124500/ns/world_news-asiapacific/?GT1=43001

Japan's increasingly frantic efforts at nuke plant
Expert says workers at stricken nuclear plant are 'like suicide fighters in a war,' but some are reportedly volunteering to join them

Water dropped by helicopters seems to blow away in wind

At least 19 workers hurt, 20 exposed to radiation

Four of the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant's six reactors have faced serious crises

U.S. says Americans should consider leaving Japan

Aid workers, victims, regional officials appeal for help

More than 5,300 officially listed as dead, but toll expected to top 10,000


Japan tried high-pressure water cannons, fire trucks and even helicopters that dropped batches of seawater in increasingly frantic attempts Thursday to cool an overheated nuclear complex as U.S. officials warned the situation was deteriorating.

Two Japanese military CH-47 Chinook helicopters began dumping seawater on the complex's damaged Unit 3 at 9:48 a.m. (8:48 p.m. EDT), defense ministry spokeswoman Kazumi Toyama said. The choppers dumped at least four loads on the reactor in just the first 10 minutes, though television footage showed much of it appearing to disperse in the wind.

Chopper crews flew missions of about 40 minutes each to limit their radiation exposure, passing over the reactor with loads of about about 2,000 gallons of water.

Video: Physicist: Helicopter drops 'like squirt guns against a forest fire'

The dousing is aimed at cooling the Unit 3 reactor, as well as replenishing water in that unit's cooling pool, where used fuel rods are stored, Toyama said. The plant's owner, Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO), said earlier that pool was nearly empty, which would cause the rods to overheat and emit even more radiation.

Along with the helicopter water drops, military vehicles designed to extinguish fires at plane crashes were being used to spray the crippled Unit 3, military spokesman Mitsuru Yamazaki said. The high-pressure sprayers were to allow emergency workers to get water into the damaged unit while staying safely back from areas deemed to have too much radiation.

But special police units trying to use water cannons — normally used to quell rioters — failed in their attempt to cool the unit when the water failed to reach its target from safe distances, said Yasuhiro Hashimoto, a spokesman for the Nuclear And Industrial Safety Agency.

Officials at TEPCO said they believed they were making headway in staving off a catastrophe both with the spraying and with efforts to complete an emergency power line to restart the plant's own cooling systems.

The interim power line would be a temporary but "reliable" way to cool down the reactors and storage pools, said Teruaki Kobayashi, a facilities management official at TEPCO.

"This is a first step toward recovery," he said.

Japan will continue dropping water from the air on the Unit 3 reactor on Friday, the country's nuclear safety agency said on Thursday night.

Four of the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant's six reactors have faced serious crises involving fires, explosions, damage to the structures housing reactor cores, partial meltdowns or rising temperatures in the pools used to store spent nuclear fuel.

Officials also recently announced that temperatures are rising in the spent fuel pools of the last two reactors.

The troubles at the nuclear complex were set in motion by last week's 9.0-magnitude earthquake and tsunami knocked out power and destroyed backup generators needed for the reactors' cooling systems. That added a nuclear crisis on top of twin natural disasters that likely killed well more than 10,000 people and left hundreds of thousands homeless.

U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission Chairman Gregory Jaczko said at a congressional hearing in Washington that all the water was gone from unit No. 4's spent fuel pool. Jaczko said anyone who gets close to the plant could face potentially lethal doses of radiation.

"We believe radiation levels are extremely high," he said.

TEPCO executives said Thursday that they believed the rods in that pool were covered with water, but an official with Japan's nuclear safety agency later expressed skepticism about that and moved closer to the U.S. position.

"Considering the amount of radiation released in the area, the fuel rods are more likely to be exposed than to be covered," Yuichi Sato said.

The top U.S. nuclear regulatory official gave a far bleaker assessment of the crisis than the Japanese, and the U.S. ambassador warned U.S. citizens within 50 miles of the plant on the northeast coast to leave the area or at least remain indoors.

The Japanese government said it had no plans to expand its mandatory, 12-mile exclusion zone around the plant along the northeastern coast, while also urging people within 20 miles to stay inside.

IAEA chief heads to Japan
The head of the U.N. atomic watchdog said he would like to visit the site on Thursday as he departed for Tokyo to glean details about the escalating crisis.

"The situation continues to be very serious," International Atomic Energy Agency chief Yukiya Amano told reporters at the Vienna airport as he left with a small group of nuclear experts.

"We wish to go to the site, but we will discuss it upon our arrival. "This is a very serious accident, but Japan is not alone; the international community is standing by Japan," he said.

Amano said he would ask Japanese authorities to improve communications with the Vienna-based IAEA, which has been struggling to keep up with fast-developing events because of a lack of timely and detailed data from Japan.

At least 19 workers at the stricken plant have been injured, more than 20 exposed to radiation and two have gone missing during the battle to prevent a nuclear disaster, officials said Thursday.
 

rafter

Since 1999
Who gives a crap about basketball? Sports is one of our BIGGEST problems - people sit in front of TV watching some stupid kids game rather than educating themselves about the world around them. Memorize a bunch of worthless trivia but have no idea about things that matter.
OK, rant off!!


Rafter, we still have nothing to worry about. Why would others "blow" they are not yet out of control. The food contamination issue, in the US at least, is nothing but an excuse to drive up prices. Even if it happened, anyone with a proper prep pantry would mostly say ho hum.

We can continue to grow crops, produce food, and SAFELY eat that food.

As of yet no widespread radioactive material of suffient amount to pose a risk, EVEN IN JAPAN! The background rates in Tokyo are nearly normal and lower than in Rome for crying out loud.

Take a deep breath folks, exhale slowly. No need to panic. Stop getting news from highly biased left wing sources.

RELAX. There is PLENTY of time to panic if events justify it!!!

Thanks for the explanation.
 

mt4design

Has No Life - Lives on TB
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^ ^ ^ very good article above, good solid new info

That'd be post 1888

Thanks Leska for setting some of those sections in Bold.

This meant that in the company's view, it was possible that enough fissile uranium was present in the cooling pond in enough density to form a critical mass.

In other words, a nuclear fission chain reaction could start in a pond that lies outside parts of the building designed to contain radioactive materials.


rewrite : a nuclear fission chain reaction could start in a pond that lies inside parts of the building not designed with redundant containment of radioactive materials.


snip

This left a further 3,450 rods distributed between the pools in the six reactor buildings.


snip

So how much material is there in the pond in building 4?

Clues come from a presentation given by a Tepco employee at a conference on fuel storage last November.

It confirms that the cooling ponds had been "re-racked" - in other words, they were storing more fuel rods than allowed for in the original design.


and

If "re-criticality" did materialise, it would lead to the enhanced and sustained release of radioactive materials - though not to a nuclear explosion - with nothing to stop the radioactive particles escaping.

While the authorities are keen to re-fill the pools with water, this, paradoxically, would increase any risk of criticality, as water without boric acid in it aids the chain reaction.

and

The flyby helicopter view that Jeffrey Thomason posted post 1880 at 43 seconds in presents a view of number 4. Video is clearly indicating dirty brown smoke exiting the building at about the right level to be emanating from the spent fuel pool area.

Steam would be consistent, not smoke - if water were present.

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Brutus

Inactive
Okay, I gotta say this: SOME of you, particularly the folks in the heartland and eastern US, are, IMO, way overreacting. the likelihood of any meaningful radiation levels reaching you is pretty much flat-out zero. Now on the west coast, particularly in Alaska, Washington and Oregon, have more to be concerned about. As for the rest of us though, I think we're going to be okay.

What he said.

:)
 

Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
http://www.breakingnews.com/

International Atomic Energy Agency says Japan nuclear situation still serious, but sees no significant worsening

High radiation levels detected 18.6 miles from stricken Fukushima nuclear plant, outside 12.4-mile evacuation zone
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
The heli drops would be laughable if they weren't so dangerous. This may indicate extreme desperation, where risking lives is accepted because there are simply no other answers. It might also be hero-theater, where TPTB feel that a show of doing something is preferable to doing nothing at all, no matter that the show sends crews into harm's way. The second seems more likely, I fear.
 

Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
panic buying

OK this thing hasn't saturated JQP TV yet and the panic buying is already on.
Be glad you prepped!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...r-fears-prompt-panic-buying-around-world.html
By Gordon Rayner, Chief Reporter 4:03PM GMT 17 Mar 2011

Japan nuclear fears prompt panic-buying around world

As nuclear panic began to spread around the world, supermarkets and pharmacies thousands of miles from Japan ran out of anything and everything rumoured to prevent radiation poisoning.

Panic-buying began in Tokyo after the tsunami, but has spread around the world because of fears of radiation leaks from the Fukushima plant.

Russia saw a run on red wine and seaweed; in China people were buying massive amounts of salt, and chemists as far away as Bulgaria reported shortages of iodine tablets.

No matter how many scientists were wheeled out to reassure people that radiation levels outside Japan would not pose a threat to health, widespread distrust of official advice meant thousands placed more faith in rumours and old wives’ tales.

In China, the government called for calm after shoppers bought up huge quantities of salt in the mistaken belief that it contains enough iodine to block radiation.

Potassium iodide tablets, which prevent the body from absorbing radiation, have been handed out in Japan to those living near the stricken Fukushima power plant, and in China iodine is added to salt to help prevent iodine deficiency disorders.

The mere mention of the word iodine was enough to prompt panic-buying of salt amid fears that a change in the wind direction could blow a radioactive cloud across China from its near neighbour.

“We are entirely sold out of salt, and shoppers are now buying salt substitutes such as soy sauce, even though there is no connection,” said an exasperated supermarket worker in Shanghai.

China’s Ministry of Health said an adult would need to swallow 3kg (6.6lbs) of salt at one sitting to prevent radiation poisoning, and the country's largest salt maker, China National Salt Industry Corp., issued a statement saying it had ample reserves and that "panic-buying and hoarding is unnecessary”.

But it was not enough to prevent whispers spread on the internet and by viral text messages from pushing salt prices up tenfold in some areas, leading to a sharp rise in the price of shares in salt companies.

The Chinese government, which suspected the rumours had been spread deliberately by profiteers, said companies that hiked up salt prices would face fines of up to £190,000, and ordered local authorities to take “immediate action to monitor the market prices and resolutely crack down on illegal acts including spreading rumours to deceive the public”.

China has repeatedly said its citizens face no imminent threat of radiation contamination from the Fukushima nuclear plant, 620 miles from the easternmost part of the country.

But it gave out mixed messages by checking all incoming food imports for radiation, and many pharmacists said yesterday they had sold out of potassium iodide tablets.
“We are sold out of iodine, and of two other drugs,” said an employee at Shanghai Pharmaceutical. “We have been trying to tell people they do not need these drugs, but they simply walk in and grab them off the shelves anyway.”

In Russia, memories of the 1986 Chernobyl disaster in Ukraine prompted bulk buying of seaweed and red wine.

At the time of the world’s worst nuclear accident, the former Soviet government recommended seaweed, which contains iodine, and red wine, which helps block radiation because of its tannin content.

In the far east of Russia, chemists were running out of products containing iodine, while face masks and dosimeters, which measure radiation, were also in short supply. Sales of vodka were also up following rumours it could help block radiation.
“All this unhealthy frenzy is linked to people artificially ramping up interest in these products,” said Olga Shekhovtseva, a spokeswoman for the Emergency Affairs Ministry.

“In blogs and on the internet people are urging others to buy gas masks, respirators, food supplements, cakes which allegedly cleanse the body of radio nuclides, and even some kind of miracle suit that allegedly protects you from radiation.”

Bakers in the area reportedly increased production of a special kind of bread which is rich in iodine.

Travel agents said they had witnessed a run on airline tickets to Moscow and other points west as people decided to evacuate the area just in case, while the Russian army is on standby to organise a mass evacuation if necessary.

Svetlana Tanina, of PrimTekhnopolis, a Vladivostok-based firm that sells dosimeters, said her company had sold 30 measuring instruments over the past three days, compared with the usual two or three per month.

The Russians also sent coastguard vessels into the waters off Japan to monitor radiation in the air, and water companies used molluscs, which react to ions in heavy metals, to check for any increases in background radiation.

In Bulgaria, one of the countries to which former residents of the Chernobyl area fled, nutritionist Prof Donka Baykova encouraged people to drink red wine if they were worried about the latest nuclear accident.

Ukrainians who fled to Bulgaria in 1986 also recommended chilli peppers as a natural way of blocking radiation.

Prof Baykova spoke out after pharmacies in Bulgaria ran out of iodine supplements, even though it is 6,000 miles from Japan and is under no apparent threat.

Panic was also spreading in the US, where radiation levels are expected to rise by today because of the prevailing winds from Japan.

Despite reassurances that any increases will be harmless to human health, sales of potassium iodide tablets have soared, following comments from the president’s surgeon-general, Regina Benjamin, who said it was “definitely appropriate” to buy iodine.

Aaron Gonzales, a Los Angeles resident, said some of his neighbours had put cling-film over their doors and windows and hoarded stores of drinking water and rice.

Passengers from Japan arriving at airports all over the world were being tested for radiation and in Vietnam schools kept children indoors to avoid rainfall after word spread that the deluge would burn skin and cause cancer.

A similar scare in the Philippines led a university to cancel lectures on Monday.
 

Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
Headline titles

http://news.google.com/news/story?pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&ncl=d7Ho92BUIsrx2lM7utyUx7u8HlyrM

snapshot of headline titles breaking at the moment:

Japan Nuclear Disaster Caps Decades of Faked Reports, Accidents

Japan's Nuclear Fears Hit Tokyo Thursday

Fear of Japan's nuclear crisis far exceeds actual risks, say scientists

Japan nuclear crisis: Seven reasons why we should abandon nuclear power

Japan, Foreign Embassies Break Step on Evacuation Advice

US military team to advise Japan on nuke hazards

The risks exposed

US readies to fly military families out of Japan

Japan nuclear crisis sparks mass exodus

Radiation Risks Low but Panic Is High

Tepco Says Using Water Cannons May Have Got Water to Reactor

U.S. Drone Surveying Japan's Damaged Nuclear Complex

Japan battles to cool reactors

US military families get OK to leave Japan

Japanese stay put for now despite nuclear radiation worries

Meltdown 101: A brief glossary of nuclear terms

In Fukushima Nuclear Catastrophe, Where Are Japan's Robots?

Japan nuclear crisis: Fukushima 'meltdown' is worrying, but this is no Chernobyl

Japan earthquake: 'Many people' are leaving Tokyo

Fukushima nuclear threat: expats agonise over leaving Sendai

React on reactors

Japan Churns Through 'Heroic' Workers Hitting Radiation Limits

Japanese Officials at Odds If Water Dumps Helped Crippled Nuclear Plant

US Navy delivers protective suits to Japan

As Japan strives to cool reactors, hard questions for regulators and response team

Japan earthquake and tsunami: Nuclear plant 'not out of woods'

How bad is the nuclear threat in Japan?

Choppers and cannons bring no nuclear relief

Japan nuclear crisis: Atomic samurai not afraid to die

etc etc etc etc etc
 

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New software is making it tough to upload pics. :sht:
 

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Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
Wow Mike thanks for your picture work. Can't imagine trying to work in that area, with high radiation, smoke, steam, explosions, fires, using a flashlight! Insane.

http://www.drudgereport.com/
Radiation Found At DFW, O'Hare Airports...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...gger-u-s-airport-detectors-n-y-post-says.html
By Alan Purkiss - Mar 16, 2011 11:08 PM PT

Tokyo Passengers Trigger U.S. Airport Detectors, N.Y. Post Says

Radiation detectors at Dallas-Fort Worth and Chicago O’Hare airports were triggered when passengers from flights that started in Tokyo passed through customs, the New York Post reported.

Tests at Dallas-Fort Worth indicated low radiation levels in travelers’ luggage and in the aircraft’s cabin filtration system; no passengers were quarantined, the newspaper said.

Details of the incident at O’Hare weren’t immediately clear, the Post said.
 
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http://news.google.com/news/story?pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&ncl=d7Ho92BUIsrx2lM7utyUx7u8HlyrM

snapshot of headline titles breaking at the moment:

Japan Nuclear Disaster Caps Decades of Faked Reports, Accidents

Japan's Nuclear Fears Hit Tokyo Thursday

Fear of Japan's nuclear crisis far exceeds actual risks, say scientists

Japan nuclear crisis: Seven reasons why we should abandon nuclear power

Japan, Foreign Embassies Break Step on Evacuation Advice

US military team to advise Japan on nuke hazards

The risks exposed

US readies to fly military families out of Japan

Japan nuclear crisis sparks mass exodus

Radiation Risks Low but Panic Is High

Tepco Says Using Water Cannons May Have Got Water to Reactor

U.S. Drone Surveying Japan's Damaged Nuclear Complex

Japan battles to cool reactors

US military families get OK to leave Japan

Japanese stay put for now despite nuclear radiation worries

Meltdown 101: A brief glossary of nuclear terms

In Fukushima Nuclear Catastrophe, Where Are Japan's Robots?

Japan nuclear crisis: Fukushima 'meltdown' is worrying, but this is no Chernobyl

Japan earthquake: 'Many people' are leaving Tokyo

Fukushima nuclear threat: expats agonise over leaving Sendai

React on reactors

Japan Churns Through 'Heroic' Workers Hitting Radiation Limits

Japanese Officials at Odds If Water Dumps Helped Crippled Nuclear Plant

US Navy delivers protective suits to Japan

As Japan strives to cool reactors, hard questions for regulators and response team

Japan earthquake and tsunami: Nuclear plant 'not out of woods'

How bad is the nuclear threat in Japan?

Choppers and cannons bring no nuclear relief

Japan nuclear crisis: Atomic samurai not afraid to die

etc etc etc etc etc

So what is the point opf posting the news titles? Most of them are sensationalist, designed to grab your attention.....and the titles themselves convey absolutely ZERO uselful information. SO why post them?
 

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Leska Emerald Adams
http://www.breakingnews.com/

16.43 British Search and Rescue teams are due to pull out of Japan tomorrow, along with their American counterparts, it has been announced.

16.42 Barack Obama is due to make a statement about the situation in Japan at 7.30pm this evening, the White House has confirmed.

16.27 More from the IAEA press conference in Vienna. Graham Andrew, a senior official of the IAEA, tells us that radiation dose rates measured 30km from the plant have risen "significantly" in some areas in the last 24 hours. In one area (unnamed) he said levels had gone up from 80 microsieverts per hour to 170 microsieverts per hour.
 
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