PREP How Long Will the Food Last? Now let's do a little math.

Christian for Israel

Knight of Jerusalem
How Long Will the Food Last?
Now let's do a little math.

1. Let's assume that a prepared family has a three-month emergency food supply.
2. Let's also assume that for each prepared family there are 99 other families with one-week or less of food in their homes.
3. If all the food of the one prepared family is distributed equally to all the other 99 families, then each of the other 99 families will receive an additional one-day's worth of food.
4. Therefore, after about one-week all 100 families will begin to starve to death.
5. After about three more weeks, or a total of four-weeks, all 100 families will have died of starvation (if you do not consider cannibalism).

Don't like the above math? Well let's change the numbers and be more optimistic as follows:

1. Let's assume that a prepared family has a one-year emergency food supply.
2. Let's also assume that for each prepared family there are only 49 other families with one-week or less of food in their homes.
3. If the food is distributed equally (due to voluntary charity, or requisition, or confiscation, or theft) then each of the 49 other families will receive an additional one-week's worth or food.
4. Therefore, after about two-weeks all 50 families will begin to starve to death.
5. After about three more weeks, or a total of five-weeks, all 50 families will have died of starvation.

Still don't like the above math? Well let's change the numbers and include all the food stored in every local grocery store and every local food warehouse. Current estimates are that each geographical area has about three-days worth of food within its geographical boundaries. That means there is enough stored food to feed everyone in each geographical area for approximately three-days. If the food distribution network comes to a standstill, then there will be no more food. On your own, please add three-days of food for every family to both of the two above math examples and see what the revised answer is with all the stored food added into the original equation. (Note: Some people may not believe the math in this example because they look at all the food in a big grocery store and they know that if they had all that food then their family could survive for several years. What these people don't realize is that they are not the only family that depends on that grocery store. There are usually thousands of families shopping at that store every week, and the food supplies in that store would not feed thousands of families for very long. The truth is that the food would only last about three-days if every family got an equal share of that food. This is the reason the bullies will attempt to take control of the food. The bullies do not want to share that food with anyone because then the bullies would also starve to death in a very short period of time. Therefore, to make sure that they live as long as possible, the bullies will keep the vast majority of the food for themselves and for the individuals who help them to defend the food once they have it under their control.)

Still don't like the above math? Then let's include all the stored food in the entire world. According to a variety of different estimates there is about a three-month world wide food supply if the food was shared equally with everyone in the world. Even if you assume that each government allows half of its citizens to starve to death, there would still only be a six-month food supply for the remaining one-half of each country's citizens.

The above math is the reason that bullies will attempt to confiscate, requisition, or steal all the food within a geographical area. And once they have the food in their possession they will not be distributing it for free to anyone for any reason, even though they solemnly promised to do so before they got control of the food. The bullies aren't stupid and they completely understand the above math but they have no intention of sharing this basic knowledge with you because then you wouldn't voluntarily go along with their plans.

Therefore, if you are one of those individuals who has decided not to prepare because you expect your charitable neighbors to feed you, or you expect the local bullies to feed you, then the chances are very high that you will starve to death during a worst case breakdown in society.

If the bullies succeed in gaining control of all the food in a geographical area then nobody is going to take any of that food away from them except through the use of deadly force, or if a person agrees to become a willing slave and do whatever the bullies command. Unfortunately, the bullies will not need too many slaves so please don't expect to get one of these highly sought after and very desirable "starvation wages only" slave positions.

The bullies will also realize that their days are numbered unless they can somehow grow more food. Therefore, almost everyone (except for a few doctors and repairmen) who hasn't starved to death and who can still do a day's work will be put to work by the bullies in one way or another in growing food. The wages will be one day of food for one day of work. If you don't work, you don't eat. If you don't like the job assigned to you then there are 10 other people who do want your job. If you try to steal some of the food you are growing then you will receive the death penalty. If you try to work outside the established bully system to grow your own food then you will become an easy target for anyone and everyone who wants your food and the bullies will not do anything to protect you. And you won't be able to protect yourself because the bullies now have all your firearms, and anyone using a firearm will be reported to the bullies for not complying with their original demand to surrender all weapons and ammunition.

http://www.grandpappy.info/hworst.htm
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Not long at all.

Most folks who have enough food for 3 weeks, it's actually enough for about a week if that.

Most that have enough food for a year, 4 months.

The reality is if you follow the numbers for the basic 1 year pantry (LDS is where I get my numbers) these are survival amounts/calories.

Unless a family is already in survival mode they will have to change their eating habits once a diaster hits, be it an ice storm, earth quake, hurricane, or whatever. It won't be until they are in the final week/days of their food that it may occur to them to make a change.

K-
 

BadMedicine

Would *I* Lie???
(if you do not consider cannibalism).

why do you discount cannibalism? Me thinks there'll be an aweful lot of it REAL soon in any collapse. The body is nothing to do with the soul, and I don't see any reason to starve and waste away if bodies are littering the 'scape. Sounds morbid, but watching your children starve to death and eat dirt in this environment/ situation created by (malinformed, malintentioned man) is pretty damn morbid. I fully intend to eat communists and traitors if it comes to it, versus dying slow and awful. Of course, I have anough food laid up to outlast the first several waves of die offs, and after 95% of the useless eaters are out of the way life will become (slightly) easier for the rest. I wouldnt be quick to rule out cannibalism though.. reality is, ...harsh.
 

Ender

Inactive
Not long at all.

Most folks who have enough food for 3 weeks, it's actually enough for about a week if that.

Most that have enough food for a year, 4 months.

The reality is if you follow the numbers for the basic 1 year pantry (LDS is where I get my numbers) these are survival amounts/calories.

Unless a family is already in survival mode they will have to change their eating habits once a diaster hits, be it an ice storm, earth quake, hurricane, or whatever. It won't be until they are in the final week/days of their food that it may occur to them to make a change.

K-

The LDS have been saying PREPARE for over 100 years.

The "food supply" means food as we know it, when actually there is food all around us. Every area has edibles that grow naturally and are indigenous to the area. It's time to get reacquainted with the earth and stop thinking "Big Mac".

Everyone needs to get into survival mode. NOW.
 

China Connection

TB Fanatic
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Ah, so at last dried grass with pee and pronto juicy maggots of top food value.

Welcome to my world fellow maggot eaters.


Tried it for three months, so it isn't a joke.


House flies will breed year round if you can keep a small container warm.


Oh, but two states back in my home country have banned selling insects and one of them has banned keeping insects. Killers in government are not hard to find at any level. Of course they are bullies and they themselves think that they should be allowed to live.


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trkarl

Contributing Member
Going by those numbers then my guess is that most of people on this board like myself have wayyyyyy more food stored than the rest of the world population.

No matter how we obtained it liberal socialists still will want to redistribute it because we have more than our fair share and some how stole it from everyone else.:shk:
 

UncurledA

Inactive
A masterful write-up, CfI. I'm printing it out right now, to give to our local paper to publish just before the situation gets critical ( if there is indeed time before ). Maybe we can get our whole area suspicious of the confiscating smooth-talking liars who promise to redistribute the food they actually intend to get and keep using their "authority".
 

ElkHollow

Inactive
WOW!! This kinda puts it in perspective... I am so glad my DW and I don't live in a big city..If this happened it would be a nightmare in a city... Maybe in the country to, who knows...

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Warthog

Tusk Up
Going by those numbers then my guess is that most of people on this board like myself have wayyyyyy more food stored than the rest of the world population.

No matter how we obtained it liberal socialists still will want to redistribute it because we have more than our fair share and some how stole it from everyone else.:shk:
I guess that's when you have to distribute 7.62x39mm. Let the show begin.:popcorn1:
 

Wise Owl

Deceased
Watched the Postman lately with Kevin Costner? If not, it's a good one to see what will probably happen.
 

WildDaisy

God has a plan, Trust it!
I watched the Road last night. While I didn't think it was a good movie, it did bring home what people would do when faced with starvation. Those that are a hint of a bad seed in normal times will really become a bad seed, and those with a good heart will still be in that mode, though they will do things they wouldn't ordinarily do to survive, they wouldn't seek it out as a first resort.
 

LittleJohn

Membership Revoked
I have anough food laid up to outlast the first several waves of die offs, and after 95% of the useless eaters are out of the way life will become (slightly) easier for the rest. I wouldnt be quick to rule out cannibalism though.. reality is, ...harsh.

BadMedicine,

If you REALLY want to do it right, be sure to can up the first 95% of the useless eaters. You can have shelves and shelves of juicy meat in your pantry!

Just be sure your pressure canner is adjusted for altitude.

:spns:


LittleJohn
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I never quite read it put that way. That article gave me chills. Makes me want to buy ammo and more food, and animal traps.
 
Thanks for posting this CfI. I haven't been to Grandpappy's site in a while.


Ditto! Thanks CFI!

The OP is from a fresh post on his site dated September 6th:
Are You Prepared for a Worst Case Breakdown in Society?
Copyright © September 6, 2010 by Robert Wayne Atkins, P.E.
All Rights Reserved.
http://www.grandpappy.info/hworst.htm

snip:
Bullies
Bully During a long-term worst case breakdown in society the bullies in each local geographical area will try to dominate that area.

Bullies can be defined in a variety of different ways but for the purposes of this article we will use the following definition.

A bully is anyone who:

1. Is significantly stronger than almost everyone else, or
2. Is significantly more intelligent than almost everyone else, or
3. Has the most powerful and deadliest weapons at his or her disposal, or
4. Has some type of government or law enforcement job and they quickly enact some new laws that they enforce using martial law or deadly force, or
5. Is the head of an existing "Homeowner's Association" and he or she convinces the majority of the other homeowners that they have the right to search everyone's home and confiscate whatever would be of use to their entire community.

Right and wrong has nothing to do with being a bully.

A bully is simply someone who doesn't have what he or she wants and he or she decides that it is perfectly okay to simply take it from someone else.

A bully has no respect for any type of law, either civil or moral, unless those laws support the bully's current objective.
end snip

another snip
Food Production and Food Distribution and Food Storage
During a Worst Case Breakdown in Society
During a worst case breakdown in society food production and food distribution will come to an immediate standstill.

Any agricultural crops in a geographical area will be immediately stolen (or confiscated or requisitioned) by the local bullies, and by the local criminals, and by anyone else who is lucky enough to successfully steal the food without losing his or her life in the process.

There is not enough food stored in the entire world to keep everyone alive for more than three months if all food production comes to a complete halt. This assumes an effort would be made to distribute the food to all the starving people in the world. Every bully in every geographical region will claim that he or she is doing his or her best to get the necessary food supplies to everyone and everyone should be patient until the food can actually be delivered to them. However, this will be a lie. The bullies intend to keep all the food for themselves and for the individuals who are loyal to them and they will simply just wait for everyone else to starve to death.

The long-term problem is that the bullies don't know how to produce food, and even if they do know how, they will not actually do the work themselves. In fact, most bullies don't know how to do any type of truly productive activity that would be necessary during a worst case hard times event. Therefore, when the bullies in one geographical area run out of food they will try to take over an adjoining geographical area and the bullies will gradually and systematically kill one another off, or they themselves will starve to death.

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Another snip:
How to Protect Your Food Investment
Even if the bullies don't come looking for your food, your neighbors will.

History has repeated itself so many times in the last two-thousand years that it would be naive to believe that people will simply just starve to death without doing anything and everything they can to survive.

Therefore, in a worst case breakdown of society, if you intend to remain in a fixed location, then you will need to be very ingenious about where you store your emergency food supplies.

end snip.

Good write up, thought provoking with prep tips.

at another page:
http://www.grandpappy.info/whatsnew.htm

In the Hard Times Section

A 30-Day Emergency Food Supply for One Adult
- New Article Added September 1, 2010.

One-Year Emergency Food Supply - Revised September 1, 2010 - Updated food prices for the month of August 2010.

Food Inflation Price Index - Revised September 1, 2010 - Updated food prices for the month of August 2010.

Five Food Shelf Life Studies
- Revised September 1, 2010 - Added Publication History to Top of Article.


For those not familiar with to what ends civilized people will behave without food - here's must read page relating to the way food shortages (famine) played out in the Former Soviet Union.


http://www.grandpappy.info/bmanand.htm

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mecoastie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I think it is funny that the guy is talking about hiding food in secret closets etc. Do you really think that those in power are going to miss the fact that the family up the road isn’t dead after a couple of months? Same with your neighbors. Gee the Jones don’t look so thin and how are they still doing hard manual labor digging that garden? You would shortly have a mob coming for your food.

I just reread One Second After this weekend and looked at it from my towns perspective. Kind of scary. I think that in a year we would be lucky if 10% were still alive. Winter would be the big killer here.
 

Ben Sunday

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Not long at all.

Most folks who have enough food for 3 weeks, it's actually enough for about a week if that.

Most that have enough food for a year, 4 months.

The reality is if you follow the numbers for the basic 1 year pantry (LDS is where I get my numbers) these are survival amounts/calories.

Unless a family is already in survival mode they will have to change their eating habits once a diaster hits, be it an ice storm, earth quake, hurricane, or whatever. It won't be until they are in the final week/days of their food that it may occur to them to make a change.

K-

I believe there may well be a difference in management and consumption of stored food for another reason, and you have touched the periphery of that reason.

In a natural disaster (flood, earthquake, ice storms, monster blizzards, etc), you are not likely to have an oppressive government attempting to confiscate and/or redistribute private food supplies.

Yes, Katrina was an exception to many rules, I know.

Just sayin...
 

fish hook

Deceased
The LDS have been saying PREPARE for over 100 years.

The "food supply" means food as we know it, when actually there is food all around us. Every area has edibles that grow naturally and are indigenous to the area. It's time to get reacquainted with the earth and stop thinking "Big Mac".

Everyone needs to get into survival mode. NOW.

Good thought,and it would work IF you know what you can eat,where you can find it,how to prepare it,and we have a 90% die off.The land will not support our numbers.Think of a field after the locust have been through.
 

Ender

Inactive
Good thought,and it would work IF you know what you can eat,where you can find it,how to prepare it,and we have a 90% die off.The land will not support our numbers.Think of a field after the locust have been through.

Ever been to Utah?

It was nothing but high desert before the Mormons got there. Every tree you see on the Wasatch Front was planted by Mormons. They learned to grow crops and take care of their families in an area that virtually no one wanted.

There is more than enough land to support people, if the people learn to cultivate and take care of the land. The trick is to understand your terrain and make it work for you.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Keep pushing everyone you know to garden! I'm meeting more and more people this year that started a garden for the first time ever and they've all stated the same thing, they don't know why they didn't garden before, the food tastes great and they love being outside. Most are doing so to cut expenses, but it's also a very good skill to have before it hits the fan!

The folks I'm meeting that are gardening for the first time are buying seed that can be saved from year to year.

Some places will do better than others. Last year OC and I were at a city wide garage sale, city was about 350 residents, to the south of here. We were looking for canning jars. NO ONE would sell their canning jars, it seemed that just about every home owner in this town had a lot sized to about 2 acre garden, many even had fruit trees. To be honest if it were to hit the fan this is the kind of town I'd want to live in, where everyone gardens, hunts, cans, and preps.

K-
 

mecoastie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Ever been to Utah?

It was nothing but high desert before the Mormons got there. Every tree you see on the Wasatch Front was planted by Mormons. They learned to grow crops and take care of their families in an area that virtually no one wanted.

There is more than enough land to support people, if the people learn to cultivate and take care of the land. The trick is to understand your terrain and make it work for you.

It took them years to accomplish this and how many died of starvation etc in the process. Also these were a hard people used to back breaking labor.
 
Good to prepare for the food issues.

But it's the WATER that you really have to consider carefully.

Weeks without food, but only days without water...



"...bullies will attempt to confiscate, requisition, or steal all the food within a geographical area..."

This is just what history suggests - meaning that one also has to be prepared to defend their preps.
 

joyfulheart

Veteran Member
yes, water is a huge concern.

I KNOW I don't have much, but no idea how long we could last. It all depends on how mnay we are feeding. What is the disaster and what resources we will have access to.

I do know that I was spiritually led (ok, ORDERED) to set aside food for "a little while". I just don't know how long that is, or how many people it is for! Or WHEN-- is it soon?
 

Ender

Inactive
mecoastie:
It took them years to accomplish this and how many died of starvation etc in the process. Also these were a hard people used to back breaking labor.

Many Mormons died of starvation on the Pioneer Trail but this was not a normal condition once they arrived in Utah.

And- I think we will all be surprised how quickly most of us will "harden" when TSHTF.
 

Aardaerimus

Anunnaku
The LDS have been saying PREPARE for over 100 years.

The "food supply" means food as we know it, when actually there is food all around us. Every area has edibles that grow naturally and are indigenous to the area. It's time to get reacquainted with the earth and stop thinking "Big Mac".

Everyone needs to get into survival mode. NOW.

Amen.

Wisdom and capability will carry you further than any other prep.
 

SIRR1

Inactive
Great Topic, thanks!

Right off the bat post SHTF after everything has fallen apart and thats if I am still kicking I plan on being an urban hunter.

Me and my Benjamin pump air rifle will be hunting squirrel, rabbit, dove, pigeon, crow or any critter that crosses my path, thats if I am stranded at my home and we were unable to bug out.

We have a good 90+ day food supply at home and my plan is to supplement my supply with fresh kills at least every other day.

I figure the air rifle won't draw to much attention and the squirrels in my neighborhood are so fat from everyone feeding them I will start by picking them off at my neighbors bird feeders.

I have scoped long rifles but the noise will draw attention to myself so at least for the begining weeks I will hunt with the Benjamin pump and take any opportunity that crosses my path.

If things get so bad and I can't get kills with my Benjamin I will use a 22 long rifle with a plastic 2 liter bottle hose clamped over the end of the barrel to muffle the crack sound of the 22.

A 1 liter plastic bottle with a 1 inch hole cut in the bottom center will last several shots before the plastic starts to fall apart and btw this makes the 22L rifle very scary it's so quite...A Potato will also do this trick well in a pinch.

I will also work the lakes, ponds and creeks in my general neighborhood fishing, trapping, gigging and netting for fish, frogs, turtles, crawdads, snakes and I will do this at night with my neighbors who have stated we will works as a team to try and survive.

The one thing in urban areas we all have to be aware of is the hungry criminal mob that will roam the streets looking for anything of value to steal and anything to eat and drink so it will become important to work with surviving neighbors that can be trusted in order to combat these mobs or your going to die quickly...

All of this will depend if we were able to get out of town and meet up with my family at our bugout location.

It scares me to think about having to defend my home alone with just my wife, but like many of us here we will do what must be done in order to save our loved ones and home.

Sorry for rambling.

SIRR1
 

vlad

Inactive
see 22 ammo
http://www.22ammo.com/subsonic.html

Subsonic 22LR ammo is good stuff. Very quiet.
As I shoot CCI 22 CB Long I replace them with
Remington 38 gr HP subsonic. 3/4" at
50 yards from my Marlin model 25 1:16 twist barrel.

Mel Tappan "Survival Guns" p 177
quote At a distance of 8 feet from the muzzle of my
24" Anschutz, the sound level from firing was only
9 db, and at 15 feet it is was totally inaudible. Not
only does this lack of noise make the CCI Long CB
caps desireable for indoor or backyard practice, it
makes them virtually a necessity for survival use
should you ever need to so some shooting without
attracting attention or alarming game in the neighbor-
hood. unquote

http://www.jesseshunting.com/articles/guns/category16/66.html
 

Loon

Inactive
You can only store so much food for so long. You must have some way to generate food for the future. Fruit trees, perennial vegetables like asparagus and rhubarb and good. Have a fenced in garden and seeds. Learn to can and dehydrate. Have chickens and let the broody hens hatch young ones each year so you have a constant source of eggs. Butcher the older hens who aren't producing. Even in the city you can keep a few chickens in the backyard. Learn to sprout and grow herbs. Learn to forage in the woods for morell mushrooms and edible plants and berries. Learn to fish and have a stocked pond or live close to a lake where you can fish.

You can only eat out of a can so long then you need fresh meat, fruit and vegetables.

I forgot to mention you need guns and ammo to protect your source of food. You must also fence out the wild animals who want to eat your garden as well. Invest in good garden tools also.
 
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Dex

Constitutional Patriot
Good thought exercise. I pretty much agree and it will most likely be the worst case scenario where you are surrounded by counties full of DGI's who will probably DEMAND that the dictatorship redistribute OUR supplies. It wouldn't take long, a week without food perhaps, then starving liberal/communist masses will do everything they can to get the police and military to go around and confiscate supplies from frugal squirrels like ourselves. Seems to me that there is an EO or provisions in some totalitarian law enacted over the past few years that includes taking Imminent Domain liberties with Federal/State/UN level "authority."

Rural areas won't be safe, in fact they will be targeted shortly after the stores are empty. City zombies will spread across the countryside looking for homesteads to raid. The main advantage that rural folks have is that they will be able to see them coming from further away and if properly trained will have greater distances to target the raiders from.

I have a pretty good plan worked out in my head for if I end up bugging out to my elderly relatives 4 acre plot. It's lined with thick trees in the rear and all around the properties perimeter except for the front section that can be re-enforced with logs and vehicles if necessary. There are large sections of empty fields of grass between the tree lines and the front entry road. It will require cooperation from a couple of neighbors who I'm sure will be eager to get any support they can with guarding their own property in a similar fashion.

My plan will also require the participation of my family members or it won't work as well but can still be implemented with a minimum number of people that I'm fairly certain will be on-board in this type of SHTF scenario, they won't have many other choices because they live in urban areas as well and will have to join in because it will be the most logical location and plan. Being able to set a look out on the roof to see anybody coming into the perimeter from a distance allows clean sniping shots which is key to repelling borders efficiently. This could be accomplished with as little as 3 people working shifts if necessary.

I'm afraid we are in for grim times, the pieces seem to be continuously falling into place these days.
 
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Palmetto

Son, Husband, Father
I watched the Road last night. While I didn't think it was a good movie, it did bring home what people would do when faced with starvation. Those that are a hint of a bad seed in normal times will really become a bad seed, and those with a good heart will still be in that mode, though they will do things they wouldn't ordinarily do to survive, they wouldn't seek it out as a first resort.

That's why I will remaing one of "the good guys." No matter the outcome.

Palmetto
 

China Connection

TB Fanatic
I'll be safe as I'll make the place stink real bad and eat my maggots in peace. Food is all around if you know how to process things.

Fish and chicken eat maggots so you are eating processed maggots and also the American Indians at maggots. So do you without knowing it.


Are Bugs A Part of Your Diet?
Product Action Level
Apple butter 5 insects per 100g
Berries 4 larvae per 500g OR 10 whole insects per 500g
Ground paprika 75 insect fragments per 25g
Chocolate 80 microscopic insect fragments per 100g
Canned sweet corn 2 3mm-length larvae, cast skins or fragments
Cornmeal 1 insect per 50g
Canned mushrooms 20 maggots per 100g
Peanut butter 60 fragments per 100g (136 per lb)
Tomato paste, pizza, and other sauces 30 eggs per 100g OR 2 maggots per 100g
Wheat flour 75 insect fragments per 50g
Source: The Food Defect Action Levels: Current Levels for Natural or Unavoidable Defects for Human Use that Present No Health Hazard. Department of Health & Human Services 1989.

American Indians Ate Insects


http://www.manataka.org/page1082.html


There is a small fly (Hydropyrus hians), belonging to the group known as "shore flies" (Diptera: Ephydridae), that formerly bred in vast numbers in the alkaline waters of Mono Lake and other alkaline lakes in the California-Nevada border region. It was called kutsavi (or variations thereof) by the Paiute and other tribes. The fly pupae washed ashore in long windrows. J. Ross Brownel, who visited Mono Lake in about 1865, told of encountering a deposit of pupae about two feet deep and three or four feet wide that extended "like a vast rim" around the lake:

"I saw no end to it during a walk of several miles along the beach . . . . It would appear that the worms [read fly pupae], as soon as they attain locomotion, creep up from the water, or are deposited on the beach by the waves during some of those violent gales which prevail in this region. The Mono Indians derive from them a fruitful source of subsistence. By drying them in the sun and mixing them with acorns, berries, grass-seeds, and other articles of food gathered up in the mountains, they make a conglomerate called cuchaba, which they use as a kind of bread. I am told it is very nutritious and not at all unpalatable. The worms are also eaten in their natural condition. It is considered a delicacy to fry them in their own grease. When properly prepared by a skillful cook they resemble pork 'cracklings.' I was not hungry enough to require one of these dishes during my sojourn, but would recommend any friend who may visit the lake to eat a pound or two and let me know the result at his earliest convenience .... There must be hundreds, perhaps thousands of tons of these oleaginous insects cast up on the beach every year. There is no danger of starvation on the shores of Mono. The inhabitants may be snowed in, flooded out, or cut off by aboriginal hordes, but they can always rely upon the beach for fat meat."

William Brewer2, a professor of agriculture, had sampled kutsavi during a visit to Mono Lake in 1863. Noting that hundreds of bushels could be collected, he wrote:

"The Indians come far and near to gather them . The worms are dried in the sun, the shell rubbed off, when a yellowish kernal remains, like a small yellow grain of rice. This is oily, very nutritious, and not unpleasant to the taste, and under the name of koo-chah-bee forms a very important article of food. The Indians gave me some; it does not taste bad, and if one were ignorant of its origin, it would make fine soup. Gulls, ducks, snipe, frogs, and Indians fatten on it."

Somewhat earlier, in 1845, Captain John C. Fremont3 was impressed with a windrow of kutsavi which he described as 10-20 feet in breadth and 7- 12 inches deep. Fremont related an experience told to him by an old hunter, Mr. Joseph Walker. Walker and his men had surprised a party of several Indian families encamped near a small lake who had abandoned their lodges at his approach, leaving everything behind them:

"Being in a starving condition, they were delighted to find in the abandoned lodges a number of skin bags, containing a quantity of what appeared to be fish, dried and pounded. On this they made a hearty supper; and were gathering around an abundant breakfast the next morning, when Mr. Walker discovered that it was with these, or a similar worm, that the bags had been filled. The stomachs of the stout trappers were not proof against their prejudices, and the repulsive food was suddenly rejected."

The Mormon cricket, Anabrus simplex (Orthoptera: Tettigoniidae), was another important insect food of the Indians, all over the West. It is not really a cricket, being more closely related to katydids. It is a large insect, about two inches in length, wingless, and it travels in large, dense bands. Bands may be more than a mile wide and several miles long, and with 20-30 or more crickets per square yard. It is sometimes damaging to crops or range vegetation and has been a pest target of the U.S. Department of Agriculture since before the turn of the century. Major Howard Egan4 described, in his delightful first-person style, a Mormon cricket drive that took place in about 1850. The procedure was basically to dig a series of trenches, each about 30 to 40 feet long and in the shape of a new moon, cover the trenches with a thin layer of stiff wheat grass straw, drive the crickets into the grass covering the trenches, and then set fire to the grass. As the drive began, Egan thought the Indians were going to a great deal of trouble for a few crickets: "We followed them on horseback and I noticed that there were but very few crickets left behind. As they went down, the line of crickets grew thicker and thicker till the ground ahead of the drivers [men, women and children] was black as coal with the excited, tumbling mass of crickets." After the grass had been fired, Egan observed that in some places the trenches were more than half full of dead crickets: "I went down below the trenches and I venture to say there were not one out of a thousand crickets that passed those trenches."

Once the drive was over, the men and children had done their part and were sitting around while the women gathered the catch into large baskets which could be carried on their backs. We should remember that this was long before the days of the women's' movement, as Egan says, in obvious admiration:

"Now here is what I saw a squaw doing that had a small baby strapped to a board or a willow frame, which she carried on her back with a strap over her forehead: When at work she would stand or lay the frame and kid where she could see it at any time. She soon had a large basket as full as she could crowd with crickets. Laying it down near the kid, she took a smaller basket and filled it. I should judge she had over four bushels of the catch. But wait, the Indians were leaving for their camp about three or four miles away. This squaw sat down beside the larger basket, put the band over her shoulders, got on her feet with it, then took the strapped kid and placed him on top, face up, picked up the other basket and followed her lord and master, who tramped ahead with nothing to carry except his own lazy carcass. There were bushels of crickets left in the trenches, which I suppose they would gather later in the day."

Egan learned that the crickets were used to make a bread that was very dark in color. They were dried, then ground on the same mill used to grind pine nuts or grass seed, "making a fine flour that will keep a long time, if kept dry" (this was often referred to as "desert fruitcake" by early settlers). Egan's Indian companion told him "the crickets make the bread good, the same as sugar used by the white woman in her cakes."

There were other efficient methods of harvesting Mormon crickets. One of them was to drive the crickets into a stream, circa 1864. as described in the journal of Perter Gottfredson5: "The squaws [placed] baskets in the ditch for the crickets to float into. The male Indians with long willows strung along about twenty feet apart whipping the ground behind the crickets driving them towards the ditch .... [The crickets] tumbled into the ditch and floated down into the baskets . . . . They got more than 50 bushels." In this instance, service berries and wild currants were mixed with the crickets to form the loaves of bread. In a similar account of floating the crickets into baskets, John Young states that they were caught by the tons.

Another method was to simply scoop up the crickets by the bushel when they were clustered under vegetation and too cold to be active. Beatrice Whiting6 wrote of the Paiute: "The women went out early in the morning and caught them, were back by sunrise, and spent the rest of the day roasting, drying, and pounding them and putting them in bags to be cached for the winter."

There are few first-hand assessments of the flavor of Mormon crickets by early whites, for reasons that are apparent from the following excerpt from the reminiscences of Captain Joseph Aram7 who was in the Humboldt Sink in 1846: "We came to an Indian village, they came out in strong force but finding us friendly, they treated us kindly. They were digging roots on a creek bottom. They looked like a small red carrot. They gave us some that were cooked, they tasted like a sweet potato. They also offered us some dried crickets but those were declined, thinking they would not relish well with us." According to a modem account of the Honey Lake Paiute (Lassen County, California) by F. A. Riddell8, when Mormon crickets were made into a soup, the flavor was somewhat like that of dried deer meat.

A certain species of aphid even provided the Indians with sugar--in the form of the sweet honeydew it secreted. In the early Mission records of California, Pere Picola wrote in 1702: "In the months of April, May and June there falls with the dew a kind of manna, which solidifies and hardens on the leaves of reeds from which it is collected. I have tasted some. It is a little less white than sugar, but has all the sweetness of it." Some of the Fathers considered this "manna" a dispensation from Heaven.

John Bidwell9, a pioneer in the Humboldt Sink area in 1841, looked at the "manna" with a more discerning eye: "We saw many Indians on the Humboldt, especially towards the sink. There were many Tule marshes. The tule is a rush, large, but here not very tall. It was generally completely covered with honeydew, and this in turn was wholly covered with a pediculous-looking [louse-like] insect which fed upon it. The Indians gathered quantities of the honey and pressed it into balls about the size of one's fist, having the appearance of wet bran. At first we greatly relished this Indian food, but when we saw what it was made of--that the insects pressed into the mass were the main ingredient--we lost our appetites and bought no more of it."

It wasn't until 1945 that the scientific identity of the aphid was determined. Volney Jones10established its identity as Hyalopterus pruni, which is called the mealy plum aphid because it spends its winter phase on plum trees and other species of Prunus. In the spring and early summer it migrates to summer hosts, primarily the reed grass, Phragmites communis, where it produces the honeydew. The gathering of the honeydew seems to have been one of the annual seasonal rounds of activity of the Indians of the Great Basin. A family or band might camp for a short time near a stream or lake when the honeydew was ready. By piecing together various ac counts of the manner of collection, Jones gives the following picture: "The collection seems to have been primarily the work of women and children. The reeds were cut and carried away from the water .... Cutting was done just after sunrise, and the reeds were spread out to dry during the warmer part of the day to dry the honey dew and make it brittle. During the afternoon the reeds were held over a hide and beaten with a stick to dislodge the deposits of honey dew which fell on the hide and could be collected .... The honey dew was rolled into balls, wrapped in leaves, and stored in baskets until needed."

Many other insects contributed on a regular basis to the Indian diet, among them grasshoppers, cicadas, ants and ant pupae, wasp pupae and prepupae, certain beetle larvae and several kinds of caterpillars. Edible insect harvest was a part of the annual rounds of food procurement. The Indians knew exactly where to go, and when, to find the desired insects, and large numbers of people and consider able planning, travel and effort were often involved in harvesting them (Sutton10). Some insects such as the Mormon cricket, grass hoppers and pandora moth caterpillars yielded a very high energy return for the energy expended in their harvest, often much higher than return rates from seeds or other plant food resources . And. when dried, the insects were storable for use as winter food.

In several localities, pandora moth caterpillars (Coloradiapandora) are still harvested by elderly Paiute. Called piuga by the Indians, the caterpillars feed primarily on the needles of the Jeffery pine and when fully grown descend the tree trunk to pupate in the soil. They sometimes occurred in great numbers and were collected in trenches dug around the bases of the trees. They were then roasted by mixing them with hot sand. Piuga is regarded by the Paiute as "a tasty, nutritious food that is especially good for sick people, much like our chicken soup," according to Elizabeth Blake and Michael Wagner12, two researchers at the University of Northern Arizona. In former times, according to the late E. O. Essig13 (formerly an entomologist at the University of California-Berkeley), hungry whites who tasted piuga claimed that boarding with the early Californians "on the American plan was not so good."

Finally, among the insect foods of the western Indian tribes, none were more widely harvested than grasshoppers. They were most often collected by using what hunters call a "surround." H. M. Chittenden and A. D. Richardson14, in their account of the life and travels of the French missionary, Father Pierre-Jean De Smet, described the "surround" used in a Shoshoco grasshopper hunt (circa 1850): "They begin by digging a hole, ten or twelve feet in diameter by four or five deep; then, armed with long branches of artemisia, they surround a field of four or five acres, more or less, according to the number of persons who are engaged in it. They stand about twenty feet apart, and their whole work is to beat the ground, so as to frighten up the grasshoppers and make them bound forward. They chase them toward the centre by degrees--that is, into the hole prepared for their reception., Their number is so consider able that frequently three or four acres furnish grasshoppers sufficient to fill the reservoir or hole."

A variation of the Shoshoco procedure was to build a fire covering 20 to 30 feet square. The people then formed a large circle around it and drove the grasshoppers onto the hot coals. Sometimes a field was simply set afire, and the scorched grasshoppers were picked up afterward. Or as in the case of Mormon crickets. grasshoppers could be collected by hand in the early morning while they were too cold to be active.

Edwin Bryant15 (circa 1848) provided one of the few assessments of grasshopper palatability by a white. following an encounter with Utah Indians, an occasion when three women appeared, "bringing baskets containing a substance, which, upon examination, we ascertained to be service-berries, crushed to a jam and mixed with pulverized grasshoppers. This composition being dried in the sun until it becomes hard, is what may be called the 'fruitcake' of these poor children of the desert. No doubt these women regarded it as one of the most acceptable offerings they could make to us. We purchased all they brought with them, paying them in darning needles and other small articles, with which they were much pleased. The prejudice against the grasshopper 'fruitcake' was strong at first, but it soon wore off, and none of the delicacy was thrown away or lost .... After being killed, they [the grasshoppers] are baked before the fire or dried in the sun, and then pulverized between smooth stones. Prejudice aside, I have tasted what are called delicacies, less agree able to the palate."

Nutritionally, insects are high in protein, fat (and thus energy) and many of the important vitamins and minerals. They have served as traditional foods in most cultures of non-European origin and have played an important role in the history of human nutrition not only in western North America, but in Africa, Asia and Latin America. As might be expected from our European cultural heritage, some early American whites looked with open disgust at the insect foods of the American Indians. It is interesting, though, that so often, as shown by the above examples, these cross-cultural encounters relative to food seemed dominated by feelings of mutual tolerance, curiosity and respect and were described with a sense of humor.

Gene R. DeFoliart, Editor

(Ed.: This article was originally written two or three years ago at the invitation of a travel and outdoor magazine published in California. When the magazine went on a reduced publication schedule, we got our manuscript back. Nobody likes to throw away a manuscript that's already written, so we decided that Newsletter readers might enjoy it.)

Addendum: This wasn't included in the original manuscript, but I think the second of the two paragraphs below quoting Father Kino (as found in Bolton 1919l6) is one of the more humorous passages (because of Kino's religious candor) that I have encountered in the older North American literature. Kino labored in California, Arizona and Sonora. In the first paragraph, he is talking about aphid honeydew. The second paragraph is more on spiritual matters, and from Father Kino's account it seems questionable as to who was converting who:

"In order that sugar, which with so great artifice and toil is made over here, may not be lacking to the Californians, heaven provides them with it in abundance in the months of April, May, and June, in the dew which at that time falls upon the broad leaves, where it hardens and coagulates. They gather large quantities of it, and I have seen and eaten it. It is as sweet as sugar to the taste, and differs only in the refraction, which makes it dark." (II:56).

"All this fertility and wealth God placed in California only to be unappreciated by the natives, because they are of a race who live satisfied with merely eating .... By nature they are very lively and alert, qualities which they show, among other ways, by ridiculing any barbarism in their language, as they did with us when we were preaching to them. When they have been domesticated they come after preaching to correct any slip in the use of their language. If one preaches to them any mysteries contrary to their ancient errors, the sermon ended, they come to the father. call him to account for what he has said to them, and argue and discuss with him in favor of their error with considerable plausibility; but through reason they submit with all docility." (II:58-60)
 

Wolfman

Senior Member
The LDS have been saying PREPARE for over 100 years.
The "food supply" means food as we know it, when actually there is food all around us. Every area has edibles that grow naturally and are indigenous to the area. It's time to get reacquainted with the earth and stop thinking "Big Mac".

Everyone needs to get into survival mode. NOW.

But even the best surveys over LDS people show only about 10 to 20 per cent have a 'real' years supply. The math is still doesn't look good.
 

Bumblepuff

Has No Life - Lives on TB
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When properly prepared, one single
small serving of mutated rice grains
provides 100 % of a nuclear fallout
survivor's daily dose of radioactive
isotopes. No precooking is required.
 

Samson

Inactive
I would like to see someone describe a scenario like the thread title piece but substitute Ammo for Food.

How much ammo is available in a particular area? If you have enough to shoot every day for a year how much better off would you be? Will the bullies take over the gun shops as well? etc.....etc.......
 

Loon

Inactive
The LDS have been saying PREPARE for over 100 years.

The "food supply" means food as we know it, when actually there is food all around us. Every area has edibles that grow naturally and are indigenous to the area. It's time to get reacquainted with the earth and stop thinking "Big Mac".

Everyone needs to get into survival mode. NOW.


Looking for food around you is great idea except in the winter when everything green is covered with ice and snow.
 
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