ECON Light bulb factory closes; End of era for U.S. means more jobs overseas

Fisher

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Light bulb factory closes; End of era for U.S. means more jobs overseas
By Peter Whoriskey
Wednesday, September 8, 2010; 3:06 AM
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WINCHESTER, VA. - The last major GE factory making ordinary incandescent light bulbs in the United States is closing this month, marking a small, sad exit for a product and company that can trace their roots to Thomas Alva Edison's innovations in the 1870s.

The remaining 200 workers at the plant here will lose their jobs.

"Now what're we going to do?" said Toby Savolainen, 49, who like many others worked for decades at the factory, making bulbs now deemed wasteful.

During the recession, political and business leaders have held out the promise that American advances, particularly in green technology, might stem the decades-long decline in U.S. manufacturing jobs. But as the lighting industry shows, even when the government pushes companies toward environmental innovations and Americans come up with them, the manufacture of the next generation technology can still end up overseas.

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dero50

Veteran Member
This is happening over and over. DH works for a cup manufacturer closing next year. Equipment will be sold by an "International equipment salesman". What does that tell you. This isn't going to end well and what about our young people?
 

dstraito

TB Fanatic
So long and thanks for all the fish!


















for those that don't know:
Quote from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy right before the Earth was destroyed.
 

energy_wave

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Now they can control all the light bulbs entering the country and shove the florescent BS down our throats. Maybe push us to use LED's that can be used with RFID tags.
 

China Connection

TB Fanatic
There are plenty of Light bulb factories where I live in China. Those that have the power are taking us all down to a base wage that is way lower than what we have enjoyed up till now. I'm glad I have lived when I have as it is getting harder and harder for the youth of today to get on in this world.
 

Garryowen

Deceased
Hey, it's the hope and change we were promised. Making the world safer for itself. Not having our own shoes worked so well, we might as well not be making our own light bulbs.
 
I hope those of you in the know and those reading this have or will stock up on a lot of the old kind of light bulbs---I've been doing this, for quite awhile.

Question is....how many are enough? The new curly cue ones can be dangerous, if broken, with the mercury leaking out. You can't just wipe up the floor, when cleaning them up....they are to be disposed of a special way.

What an idiotic invention of the Greenies to replace a perfectly safe bulb with one that can be downright dangerous to our health.....and not give off as much light, either. They don't care about either problem....just one more way to control us (or try.)
 

Loon

Inactive
That is so sad. I wish they'd pass a law that if these former American business owners take their manufacturing overseas they can't bring their product back here to sell it. Either that, or tax it to death coming into this country.If we don't do something soon (probably already too late) we won't have any jobs here what so ever. We're about there now.
 

Loon

Inactive
I hope those of you in the know and those reading this have or will stock up on a lot of the old kind of light bulbs---I've been doing this, for quite awhile.
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LOL That's good advice. Just today my husband broke the lightbulb in his haning trouble light. He tried to put one of those curly bulbs in there but it just didn't work right. :) He had to scramble around to find an old regular light bulb. I need to stock up on some more.

Certain lampshades won't work with them either. They just don't fit everywhere you need them to work.
 

BL225128

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I hope those of you in the know and those reading this have or will stock up on a lot of the old kind of light bulbs---I've been doing this, for quite awhile.

Question is....how many are enough? The new curly cue ones can be dangerous, if broken, with the mercury leaking out. You can't just wipe up the floor, when cleaning them up....they are to be disposed of a special way.

What an idiotic invention of the Greenies to replace a perfectly safe bulb with one that can be downright dangerous to our health.....and not give off as much light, either. They don't care about either problem....just one more way to control us (or try.)

Just mail the broken ones to a local environazi organization (give a return address of a different lefty or enviro org on the package.
 

Cooper

Inactive
I'm sure that part of the reason we have the Chinese making the curly lights is because they are so dangerous. Our EPA, OSHA etc. would probably make it too expensive to manfacture here. Makes you wonder about the greenies........Chinese folks and their environment not so important?
 

Hazard

Contributing Member
They took mercury thermometers off the market but now we have these "safe"
Light bulbs..go figure???:confused:

And the lighting the emit is sooo poor.
 

vessie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Yep, I'm stocking up on light bulbs. I absolutely HATE those new compact flourescent curlie cue ones the 'bunny squeezers' aka greenies, just love. I HATE THEM!!!

They are not your friend if you have petite mal's either by the way. They give me an incredible headache and that's just the mild effects those horrible things do.

So I was off to Lowes in Issaquah, Wa. and all I could find were the mercury filled new ones. So I went to Costco down the street, same thing. They had a few of what I was looking for at Home Depot but my all time fave is Kelsun Lighting in Bellevue, Wa. They will get you what you need! They told me the reason I've been having a hard time finding my regular bulbs is because there is a law to phase them out and I found an article about this here, it's a very fascinating and informative read about bulbs...


http://money.usnews.com/money/busin...-the-end-of-the-light-bulb-as-we-know-it.html


I was just up on San Juan island last weekend at King's Market with my husband and we actually found that they had the regular full spectrum GE 60w lights so hubby said to grab them all and we'll just take them home with us. He is now seeing the 'light' pardon the pun, on what I've been telling him these past years about things you love becoming scarce due to either factory closings or those damn Bunny Squeezers pushing their tree hugging mercury CFL's on us. Do I sound a bit teed off? Yes I am!

So grab as many bulbs as you can! V
 
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http://money.usnews.com/money/busin...-the-end-of-the-light-bulb-as-we-know-it.html

FAQ - The End of the Light Bulb as We Know It

By MARIANNE LAVELLE

December 19, 2007

The incandescent light bulb, one of the most venerable inventions of its era but deemed too inefficient for our own, will be phased off the U.S. market beginning in 2012 under the new energy law just approved by Congress. Although this will reduce electricity costs and minimize new bulb purchases in every household in America, you may be feeling in the dark about the loss of your old, relatively reliable source of light. Here's a primer on the light bulb phase-out and what will mean to you:

Q: Why are they taking my light bulbs away?

A: Moving to more efficient lighting is one of the lowest-cost ways for the nation to reduce electricity use and greenhouse gases. In fact, it actually will save households money because of lower utility bills. Ninety percent of the energy that an incandescent light bulb burns is wasted as heat. And yet, sales of the most common high-efficiency bulb available—the compact fluorescent (CFL)—amount to only 5 percent of the light bulb market. Earlier this year, Australia became the first country to announce an outright ban by 2010 on incandescent bulbs. The changeover in the United States will be more gradual, not mandated to begin until 2012 and phased out through 2014. However, don't be surprised if some manufacturers phase out earlier.

Q: How do I save money, when a CFL costs six times as much as an old-fashioned bulb?

A: Each cone-shaped spiral CFL costs about $3, compared with 50 cents for a standard bulb. But a CFL uses about 75 percent less energy and lasts five years instead of a few months. A household that invested $90 in changing 30 fixtures to CFLs would save $440 to $1,500 over the five-year life of the bulbs, depending on your cost of electricity. Look at your utility bill and imagine a 12 percent discount to estimate the savings.

Q: I've heard that CFLs don't really last as long as they say.

A: Turning a CFL on and off frequently shortens its life, which is why the government's Energy Star program says to leave them on for at least 15 minutes at a time. Also, if you have dimmable light fixtures, make sure to buy CFLs labeled "dimmable." All CFLs that carry the government's Energy Star label are required to carry a two-year limited warranty, so contact the manufacturer if your bulb burns out prematurely. The Energy Star website has a good FAQ on CFLs.

Q: I don't think that I like the color of the light from CFLs.

A: When they first hit the market, CFLs had a limited range of tones. Now, manufacturers offer a wider variety, but there is not an agreed-upon labeling standard. The Energy Star program is working to change that. But for now, look for lower "Kelvin temperatures" like 2,700 to 3,000 for "redder" light, closer to old-fashioned incandescent bulbs, while bulbs with Kelvin temperatures of 5,000 and 6,500 provide more "blue" and intense light. A good photograph illustrating the difference is shown here.

Q: I've heard that CFLs have mercury in them—isn't that bad?

A: Consumers are rightly concerned about the toxic substance mercury that helps CFLs produce light. Even though the amount sealed in each bulb is small—one old-fashioned thermometer had about 100 times as much mercury—contact local trash collection for disposal instructions. Environmentalists agree that more work must be done on bulb recycling programs. Right now, you can return any CFL to any Ikea store for recycling, and the Environmental Protection Agency and Earth911 have sites you can search for other recycling programs near your home.

Q: But if you break a CFL, you'll have a toxic spill in your home.

A: Maine's Department of Environmental Protection has developed the best advice on the procedures to follow if a CFL breaks. Don't use a vacuum. Maine officials studied the issue because of a homeowner in that state who received a $2,000 light bulb clean-up bill from an environmental hazards company—a story that has circulated around the country and increased consumer concerns about CFLs. It turns out that the company's advice was overkill, and a subsequent analysis showed no hazard in the home. But the bulbs must be handled with caution. Using a drop cloth might be a good new routine to develop when screwing in a light bulb, to make the clean-up of any breaks easier.

By the way, don't think that incandescent bulbs are mercury free. In the United States, the chances are at least 50 percent that their light is generated by a coal-powered plant featuring mercury as well as other types of pollution. Popular Mechanics recently crunched the numbers to find that even if the mercury in a CFL was directly released into the atmosphere, an incandescent would still contribute almost double that amount of mercury into the environment over its lifetime.

Q: Isn't there efficient lighting without mercury?

A: Yes. By 2012, the chances are good that consumers will have many more options to replace incandescent bulbs. Manufacturers already are deploying advanced incandescent bulbs that are efficient enough to stay on the market after 2012, although they are not yet as efficient as CFLs. Even more exciting are the developments with light-emitting diodes (LEDs), which are jazzing up holiday lighting. The European electronics firm Philips this year acquired several pioneering small technology companies and plans a big push to make LEDs practical for ordinary lighting purposes. The lights on the New Year's Eve Times Square Ball could one day brighten your home. LEDs last even longer than CFLs and will make bulb buying more like an appliance purchase than a throw-away item.

Q: Is Thomas Edison turning over in his grave?

A: Perhaps, but the incandescent bulb has had a good run, with the technology little changed since 1879, when Edison produced light with a carbonized thread from his wife's sewing box. The breakthrough that ushered civilization out of the candle era was so revolutionary that the light bulb itself became the culture's iconic image to illustrate any thought, brainstorm, or idea. But energy-efficient bulbs are a better idea, says Andrew deLaski, director of the Appliance Standards Awareness Project. "It's hugely important," he says. "A 60 to 70 percent reduction in light bulb energy use will save as much energy annually as that used by all the homes in Texas last year." That's a big savings.
 

cdwarior

Senior Member
Hey, it's the hope and change we were promised. Making the world safer for itself. Not having our own shoes worked so well, we might as well not be making our own light bulbs.

No horse shit. Try making a shoe. I buy new ones before the old ones are worn out and save them. Always keep a passable pair of boots in your car.
 

rhughe13

Heart of Dixie
I bought a fence charger the other day made in the USA. First time I've seen that in a couple of decades.

I was thinking where is the USA? Oh yea.
 

topcat46

Inactive
That is so sad. I wish they'd pass a law that if these former American business owners take their manufacturing overseas they can't bring their product back here to sell it. Either that, or tax it to death coming into this country.If we don't do something soon (probably already too late) we won't have any jobs here what so ever. We're about there now.

:applaud::applaud::applaud:
 

xtreme_right

Veteran Member
Has anyone researched to find out if it's safe to store incandescent bulbs in an unheated/air conditioned area? I'm wondering if it will shorten their life? I can only store so many inside my house. I'd like to put much more in my shed and garage.

xr
 

Warthog

Tusk Up
Yep, I'm stocking up on light bulbs. I absolutely HATE those new compact flourescent curlie cue ones the 'bunny squeezers' aka greenies, just love. I HATE THEM!!!
They suck and they're bad for your health if you break them. Plus they're made in China or Mexico, one a sworn enemy of the U.S. and the other that takes advantage of our great nation. Stock up now on 75s 60s and three ways.
 

JRM

Contributing Member
I was in Walgreens the other day waiting for a prescription. I noticed that the Walgreens brand light bulbs say 'Made in USA' on them so I bought some. I then went to Kroger to get groceries and found the Everyday Living brand says 'Assembled in USA' (as did some of the GE bulbs). Does anybody know if there is a legal difference between the labeling 'made in' and 'assembled in'?

It just sounds like a weasely way to say "we bring in cheap materials from China, make most of it in Mexihole, then hire illegals in the US to push the glass and metal bits together so we can label it USA". The quality of the light bulbs look the same as the ones I have that are labled from Mexico (ie the contact end of the light bulbs appear to be made by a blind man with a soldering iron).

Has anyone used either of these brands and found them to last longer than the Mexicon ones? I go through a couple a week and do not want CFLs. Not only do they cause health problems in some people, I've heard they can fade fabrics as well.
 
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