CRIME Amtrak spokesman lets slip the real reason behind those random searches

Fred

Middle of the road
http://www.courierpostonline.com/article/20100908/NEWS01/9080330/PATCO-riders-undergo-search

PATCO riders undergo search

LINDENWOLD — A swarm of DRPA police officers, uniformed screeners from the federal Transportation Security Administration and an explosives-sniffing K-9 greeted commuters at the Lindenwold PATCO station Tuesday morning, the first of what will be routine random searches of riders, their bags and vehicles.

After a lazy three-day weekend, the commotion took Kevin Greczyn, a regular PATCO commuter into Philadelphia, by surprise.

"It was chaotic," said the accountant from Magnolia. "Nobody was sure what was happening, whether it was safe to get on the train, or whether we were carrying something we shouldn't be.

"There were no guidelines, so we had no idea if something was illegal today that was legal yesterday,"

Between 6 and 10 a.m., about 12 TSA workers at Lindenwold screened 663 bags randomly selected from the morning rush, said Delaware River Port Authority Police Chief David McClintock.

"To my knowledge, the only item they confiscated was a crack pipe," he said. "That guy was arrested because a warrant was out for his arrest in Atlantic City. Screeners also found a fishing knife in a bag, but they decided there was no reason to keep it."

Police did not release the name of the man arrested.

Typically, 5,000 commuters daily use the Lindenwold station, the terminus of the 14.2-mile line in South Jersey.

Though Tuesday's drill was designed as a training session for a special DRPA police unit -- known as Visible Intermodal Prevention and Response -- there are more commuter searches to come. The unit plans to conduct searches several times monthly -- without advance notice -- at various PATCO stations.

TSA set up two long tables inside the gates of the Lindenwold station. Signs were posted at both entrances saying: "All persons beyond this point are subject to search of the person, packages and vehicles."

Greczyn said he and many other commuters were taken by surprise because they did not notice the signs.

Federal screeners were not looking for liquids, nail clippers or wine openers, items routinely confiscated by TSA at airports, explained McClintock.

"They look for improvised explosive devices and/or components," said McClintock. "Secondarily, they look for anything that looks like a weapon."

DRPA hired eight new police officers to work as an anti-terrorism team on the rail system for a period of three years. The move was funded with a $700,000 federal Homeland Security grant.

"We can conduct any kind of search we want," said McClintock. "We could ask TSA to bring wands or X-ray machines like they have in airports, though we don't think that's appropriate for PATCO riders at this time."

Rather than alarm commuters, the searches are supposed to give them "confidence that we are doing everything we can to keep the line safe. Transit lines are considered soft targets," said the chief.

Amtrak, SEPTA and other transit systems conduct similar searches.

"We've been doing random searches for years," said Amtrak spokesman Cliff Cole. "None have been in response to particular threats. It's more to show force.

"We like to keep them a surprise."
 

LtPiper

Taking cover
"We can conduct any kind of search we want," said McClintock. "We could ask TSA to bring wands or X-ray machines like they have in airports, though we don't think that's appropriate for PATCO riders at this time."

Ummmm No I don't think so.
 

mistaken1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
"We've been doing random searches for years," said Amtrak spokesman Cliff Cole. "None have been in response to particular threats. It's more to show force.

"We like to keep them a surprise."

Intimidate the sheep to keep them in line. The true mark of a selfless public servant ....
 

rainfour

Deceased
"Visible Intermodal Prevention and Response " sounds a lot like VIPER. nice isn't it how fear can be used to give up even your most basic rights in the name of peace and security.
 
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"...no guidelines, so we had no idea if something was illegal today that was legal yesterday..."


Helluva way to run a railroad.:dvl1:

OTOH, this way TPTB can get'cha anytime for any reason they suddenly make up.

Doesn't that make you feel all warm & fuzzy - citizen?
 

WildDaisy

God has a plan, Trust it!
"...no guidelines, so we had no idea if something was illegal today that was legal yesterday..."


Helluva way to run a railroad.:dvl1:

OTOH, this way TPTB can get'cha anytime for any reason they suddenly make up.

Doesn't that make you feel all warm & fuzzy - citizen?

Maybe they were looking for something specific that they couldn't say without causing mass panic?

If they were, what were they going to say "Please make sure you open your bags for searches tomorrow, any liquid explosives will be confiscated"

They knew who they were looking for or the what specifically...as in a threat.
 

Sysman

Old Geek <:)=
I don't know, I've got mixed emotions, freedom vs. safety...

I take NJ Transit (Amtrak line) into Penn Station NYC every day. We may have been "lucky" in this country so far, concerning trains and terrorists. Other countries haven't been as lucky. And places like Penn Station in NY are a "prime target"...

There is a huge sign in Penn Station, part of the departure board listing track assignments for all trains. It's been there since shortly after 9/11. "YOU ARE SUBJECT TO RANDOM SEARCHES OF YOUR PERSON AND BAGGAGE". Couldn't be any clearer, and virtually everyone is forced to see it...

I figure that is fair warning. And it does make me "feel better" about taking the train every day. And in all my trips to/from NYC every work day since 9/11, I have never been searched. Even with hair down to my butt and my ZZ Top beard... :lol:

And from what I've heard, when they do search someone, they are looking for the "serious stuff", they really don't give a crap about the "little things", at least so far...

Yes, we are giving up a tiny bit of freedom. But making the mass transit system even a little more "safe", I think may be a worthy cause in the end...

:scn:
 

denfoote

Inactive
"We can conduct any kind of search we want," said McClintock. "We could ask TSA to bring wands or X-ray machines like they have in airports, though we don't think that's appropriate for PATCO riders at this time."

Very soon a Patriot may have something to say about that you arrogant son of a bitch!!!
 

Caplock50

I am the Winter Warrior
And if, God forbid, the terrorist succeed in blowing up a train here, like they did in Spain...how will your 'tunes' change?

The Cops are, "Damned if they do and damned if they don't".
 

kozanne

Inactive
And if, God forbid, the terrorist succeed in blowing up a train here, like they did in Spain...how will your 'tunes' change?

The Cops are, "Damned if they do and damned if they don't".

+1000

Anyone that thinks things would not change on that sunny Tuesday morning
[9 years ago this Saturday] was very 'unenlightened'.
 
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Dozdoats

Deceased
Yes, we are giving up a tiny bit of freedom. But making the mass transit system even a little more "safe", I think may be a worthy cause in the end...

Never fear. There'll be another "attack" somewhere eventually, and then you can give up a LOT more liberty.

You won't get any more security in return, though. Just as you're not really any more secure now than you were on 9/11/2001...

dd
 
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