WTF?!? More freedom decay in America... Cloves.

Aardaerimus

Aardaerimus

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Yesterday, I went to buy a pack of clove cigarettes at the local smoke shop.

I'm not a smoker by habit, rather I wanted them for "medicinal" reasons. As odd as that may seem, I have had an irritating persistent, dry cough ever since I had this nasty cold, about a month ago. In times past, I found that cigarette smoke was actually kind of soothing and helped clear that annoying bronchial "itch".

Anyway, I went to purchase a pack of clove cigarettes, because they're quite a bit more mild and less harsh to my lungs... The guy says, "Sorry, but the FDA made clove cigarettes illegal." I was like, "WTF?! Are you serious?" "Yup."

I had to settle for a pack of Marlboro menthols, instead. They did the trick, and I've had nary a cough, today, but they're still kinda nasty.

I am an adult, and I want a pack of cloves, but the FDA wants to protect minors who are prone to breaking the law by banning tasty smokes...

Welcome to UK-Lite, America. Freedom is truly a dying thing. I think that from now on, whenever I see some wing-nut who's had enough, go insane and obliterate a federal establishment - I won't endorse it, but I will probably laugh like a muzzy and have a drink in their honor... I'm sick to death of federal intrusion, terror, coercion, manipulation, and control of WTP!!!

F!@$ THE FED!
 
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xtreme_right

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Back a million years ago, I would occasionally enjoy clove cigarettes. I haven't thought about them in a really long time. Nothing smells like a clove cigarette, i'll never forget that smell.

xr


http://pipesmagazine.com/blog/tag/clove-cigarettes-illegal/

Clove Cigarettes Banned as “Flavored”
September 23rd, 2009
Are they Coming for Your Pipe Tobacco Next?

The ban on flavored cigarettes, which includes widely popular, and mass-distributed for decades, Clove Cigarettes, went into effect yesterday, September 22, 2009.

Clove cigarettes and other flavored cigarettes are now illegal in the USA.

The ban is one of the first visible effects of a new law signed by President Barack Obama in June that gives the Food and Drug Administration wide-ranging authority to regulate tobacco.

Part of the new "Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act" has a ban on flavored cigarettes which went into effect September 22nd. This part of the law has provisions that include a ban on the use of flavors in tobacco, other than menthol. This will include clove cigarettes, a product popular in the US for decades.
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dissimulo

dissimulo

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Aardaerimus said:
I wonder how many more jobs will be lost, as a result, too... I guess they can all go work for the IRS, since the health Nazis will be creating more positions.
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I'm pretty sure most of the clove cigarettes were imported from Indonesia, so we won't be losing a lot of US jobs. In fact, I'm sure that we're all proud to be employing more US customs workers so they can rummage through our mail looking for evil clove cigarettes.
 
Aardaerimus

Aardaerimus

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dissimulo said:
You can still buy them on-line from outside the country.

But, your point is well taken.
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Interesting point. Though, much like other controlled substances, for which there is strong demand, the price is sure to rise significantly.

I'm sure it's not illegal to possess them - yet - or is it?
 
Satanta

Satanta

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Well, leave my cigars alone.

Maybe ban the candy flavored ones...chocolate, grape and so on. Disgusting and the only people I have ever seen intentionally getting them are [[racist comment not added by me.]]. Whatever-fact is fact is fact.
 
Aardaerimus

Aardaerimus

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Satanta said:
Well, leave my cigars alone.

Maybe ban the candy flavored ones...chocolate, grape and so on. Disgusting and the only people I have ever seen intentionally getting them are [[racist comment not added by me.]]. Whatever-fact is fact is fact.
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I'm sure it won't be long before those too are only spoken of in hushed tones. Sounds like there's already fears of aromatic pipe tobaccos being the next target.

Eventually, the Health Nazis will be hyper-regulating any other substances humans typically enjoy (except things like HFCS, Aspartame, etc.). Screw the desires of the people ~ health is rapidly becoming a mandate - which begs the question: What will happen to the unhealthy, in the future?

I hope the federal goons all die of cancer... :mad:
 
buff

buff

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Maybe ban the candy flavored ones...chocolate, grape and so on. Disgusting and the only people I have ever seen intentionally getting them are [[racist comment not added by me.]]. Whatever-fact is fact is fact.
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it makes me laugh when I see a teenaged white girl buying them...

you DO not what they are used for right?
 
Hansa44

Hansa44

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buff said:
it makes me laugh when I see a teenaged white girl buying them...

you DO not what they are used for right?
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OK...I'll bite. What are they used for because I don't know and there is NO WAY I'd stick anything with clove in it "up there".:lol:
 
BadMedicine

BadMedicine

Would *I* Lie???
Cut 'em, gut 'em, an stuff 'em...

The make blunts. (marijuana cigars for the old folks ;) ) I used to smoke me a fiiiiiiiine grape swisher then an again... Mmmmmm nothing like a dimetap medicinal to ease yer mind and soothe what ails ya:whistle:

I'm all healthied up these days though. Only thing I take for what ails me is a nice glass of wine or a frosty home-brew.
 
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NC Susan

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Aardaerimus said:
Yesterday, I went to buy a pack of clove cigarettes at the local smoke shop....I am an adult, and I want a pack of cloves, but the FDA wants to protect minors who are prone to breaking the law by banning tasty smokes...
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next time just buy marijuana.

i REALLY needed a cigarrette 2 weeks ago, when i got stung with a wasp. Baking soda just doesnt take the sting and swelling away.
 
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Perpetuity

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Aard, you can still buy cloves. They're now called clove cigars, instead of cigarettes. I just bought a back of Djarum Blacks the other day. They have shrunk from 20 a pack to 12, and an extra 20 cents a "cigar" so essentially a $2.40 tax per pack added now. The new "cigars" are essentially the same size as the old cigarettes, maybe a tad larger gauge in diameter, with a much shorter filter. Oh, they're also not "sweetened" on the filter part. Still taste about the same. Yeah...you pay more for less nowadays.:(

I'm trying to quit smoking yet again, and cloves help me to quit. I can take a puff or two off of one, and with the numbing action of the cloves makes me not want a regular cigarette. Besides, I love the taste and smell of them!
 
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Technomancer

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The tasty flavored cigs being banned because they were "marketed towards minors" happened several years ago. Camel exotic blends were great, nice variety too.
 
mscoffee

mscoffee

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Don't think the menthol smokers are safe either, they've been eying the menthol for banning as well.
 
eXe

eXe

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Yeah and I got 4 cartons of cloves stashed away, I love cloves myself and smoke one every once and a while (see what happens when you grow up a goth kid in NYC.. :lol: ) I have tried the "cigars" and they taste exactly the same.. so it was not a major big deal.. but the govt has no biz in OUR biz.

You can still buy them online overseas, pretty simple I have in the past but last day they were "legal" I got 4 cartons of them to stash.

I dont smoke them often but once and a while I need a clove :)
 
Freeholder

Freeholder

This too shall pass.
I don't smoke (can't stand the smell of the stuff, in fact), but if someone rolled their own, could they make a clove cigarette by adding the spice?

Kathleen
 
twincougars

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Aardaerimus said:
I'm sure it won't be long before those too are only spoken of in hushed tones. Sounds like there's already fears of aromatic pipe tobaccos being the next target.
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Back in college I used to smoke Cherry tobacco in my pipe. I didn't particularly like the flavor; had a little bite to it, but when around the girls, they preferred the aroma over my favorite, Balkan Sobranie, or sometimes, Dunhills Standard. I guess today's women will just have to get used to plain smelly old pipe tobacco if the FDA latches onto pipe tobacco.
 
denfoote

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Maher said:
We are the Borg! Resistance is FUTILE! You will be assimilated!
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DEAR FED,

We are Glock.
Resistance is futile.
You will be assimilated

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Technomancer

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Anyone know if I can find Camel Exotics or the equiv online in some other nation? I dunno if Camel stopped making them since they couldnt sell them here, or if they still make them elsewhere.
 
SNOWSQUAW

SNOWSQUAW

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i used to like to lick my lips after a clove cig... only had them now and then at 2AM LOL... anyways- sweet and spicy residue. nice memory! thanks.
 
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milkydoo

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I've been a huge clove fan since I was a teenager. Never got hooked, but have enjoyed occasional cigarettes here and there for a long time.

Something else happened before the ban, a few years back. I was told the story by a cigar shop owner. I went looking for my favorite Sampoerna's and no one had them. This guy said that R.J. Reynolds had bought the company, and promptly shut it down in order to comply with some federal law that mandates companies phase out so many brands every year, or something like that.

Man was I pissed! That left the Dajarums, and now that they've downsized, I'm really not interested in paying that much for the new clove cigars. :(

Freeholder said:
I don't smoke (can't stand the smell of the stuff, in fact), but if someone rolled their own, could they make a clove cigarette by adding the spice?

Kathleen
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My friend and I tried rolling some. We didn't have any success, but I'm sure the right mixture would probably work.

We took regular tobacco and mixed it with powdered clove. First a little, then more, then a ton, and I could barely taste any clove in it at all. We rolled the weakest clove cigarettes I've ever had.

But, one of these days I'll look up a 'recipe' online and see how to do it properly. :)
 
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Chair Warmer

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milkydoo said:
My friend and I tried rolling some. We didn't have any success, but I'm sure the right mixture would probably work.

We took regular tobacco and mixed it with powdered clove. First a little, then more, then a ton, and I could barely taste any clove in it at all. We rolled the weakest clove cigarettes I've ever had.

But, one of these days I'll look up a 'recipe' online and see how to do it properly. :)
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I got some clove oil to use for toothaches and that stuff is VERY strong, maybe it would work for a stronger flavor in the cigarettes?

Mrs.Cw
 
eXe

eXe

Techno Junkie
Oh btw, I love cloves as well.. and you can still buy the "clove cigars" in any smoke shop.

I stock piled some of the clove ciggs myself but the "cigars" are exactly the same thing.
 
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conundrum

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Those might be really good for lung problems, like mullein is.

Clove is the champion of all with an ORAC score over 10 million!! That means a drop of Clove contains 400 times more antioxidant per unit volume than wolfberries, the most powerful of all known fruits.

ORAC
Scientists at Tufts University have developed a scale for the U.S. Department of Agriculture called the ORAC test.

* (ORAC-Oxygen Radical Absorption Capacity)
The higher the ORAC, the higher the ORAC score, the more capable that particular food is of destroying free radicals, thus retarding the ageing process and other diseases.
 
Aardaerimus

Aardaerimus

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eXe said:
Oh btw, I love cloves as well.. and you can still buy the "clove cigars" in any smoke shop.

I stock piled some of the clove ciggs myself but the "cigars" are exactly the same thing.
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Good to see. I wonder how they draw the distinction.

One thing I did notice, in visiting the links above, was that the price of the standard black box was $22 - precisely the same thing that happens when they pass laws on any substance. The price goes through the roof and someone makes a killing (no pun intended).
 
CeeBee

CeeBee

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Tobacco smoke stuns (and eventually kills) the cilia that line the bronchial tubes, which is the only reason it may quiet a cough. When you quit, they begin to grow back and function again, which is why you often end up with a cough in the first few weeks. Since they help expel the junk, that is a good thing. Still, it takes years to recover your health (after 5 years you are almost as well off as a nonsmoker) which is why I'm glad I finally quit for good. Hope so, anyway.
 
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