Milk is A Deadly Poison

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Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:38 EDT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYpafipJyDE&feature=player_embedded

For More Information about Milk go to www.notmilk.com

Read Robert Cohen's book Milk The Deadly Poison available at Amazon.com or other major bookstores.

About the Author

Robert Cohen performed research in the 1970's on the hormonal effects on the brain and behavior. Twenty-five years later, this father of three became concerned about the most controversial drug approval in FDA history, the genetically engineered hormone that is now in our milk supply. Along the way, Cohen discovered that milk is implicated in causing breast cancer, osteoporosis, heart disease, and chronic childhood illnesses. Cohen's skills as a researcher, and his passion for the safety of his family, led to his single-minded pursuit to expose the truth about milk. Based on his exhaustive and comprehensive research over the past six years, Cohen predicted the Mad Cow Disease outbreak. His dogged determination has set the American dairy industry on its ear. To insure that all citizens of the world learn the truth, Cohen founded and is executive director of America's Dairy Education Board, a group of nationally prominent doctors dedicated to dispelling the myth that milk is nature's perfect food.

This is a 1998 Hard Copy Special on MILK. What the government doesn't want you to know about milk. Don't drink milk, we know it contains fat and cholesterol but did you know it contains the protein CASEIN (which is basically a glue which leads to a lot of mucous build up and other health problems like asthma and congestion), milk also contains powerful growth hormones, viruses, a host of deadly chemical and biological bacterial agents, bovine proteins that cause allergies, insecticides, antibiotics, all this can trigger the growth of cancer and contributes to today's problem of obese children (ever notice why young girls breasts develop faster?). Cow's milk is the number one allergic food in this country. It has been well documented as a cause in diarrhea, cramps, bloating, gas, gastrointestinal bleeding, iron-deficiency anemia, skin rashes, atherosclerosis, and acne. It is the primary cause of recurrent ear infections in children. It has also been linked to insulin dependent diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, infertility, and leukemia. Milk and refined sugar make two of the largest contributions to food induced ill health in our country.

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fair use http://www.sott.net/articles/show/210680-Milk-Is-A-Deadly-Poison

Add wheat to those 'glues' that have been pushed on us for generations, so long they are 'traditions' that we don't even think about, same with our system of govt, religion, etc. :sheep:
 
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What a freakin' joke.

Summerthyme

I'm NOT bothering to refute any of this. But if you're worried about casein, then, by ALL means, DO NOT EAT Wheat, or bread or anything with flour in it....

They make paste out of that stuff!
 
Be Well

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Cows (and goats as well) are designed by the Creator to provide more milk than is needed for their young, so that humans can benefit from the wonderful nutrition milk provides.

Cows and other milk animals have been taken care of since the beginning of human existence. Milk is a wonderful food.

The "milk is poison" fad is pure idiocy. Milk cows are designed - created that way - by God Himself.
 
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Okay, guys - Summertime is correct.....the article should have been qualified by the use of the phrase "PASTEURIZED AND HOMOGENIZED ", then, I concur.
Check out RealMilk.com., and Proverbs 27:27.
 
Mrs Smith

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Theres not a day that goes by that i don't drink milk, and actually get cravings for it sometimes in the middle of the night. It'll be a cold day before i give up milk.

Gosh, I could be perfectly content eating only super cold milk, bread and cheese.
 
Hfcomms

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I'd never drink cows milk. The molecules are too big to be absorbed correctly by human beings. If you want milk your better off drinking goats milk as the molecules are smaller and it's absorbable. Cows milk is great if your looking to develop thick nails (hooves) and a tough hide as in a calf. Not so great for humans so in this I totally agree. I do enjoy some milk products but in moderation. The author makes some good points however, 'Milk and refined sugar make two of the largest contributions to food induced ill health in our country' the point especially about refined sugar is very true. It's white poison to nutritionists.
 
Freeholder

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The point about refined sugar is true, but he's totally off-base about milk. At least, fresh, raw milk. Actually, too many carbohydrates are bad for many if not most of us, and the health problems he talks about are more from excessive carb consumption, whether refined or not, than anything else. To reduce the carbs I ingest from milk, I turn almost all of our (fresh, raw, goat) milk into kefir or cheese. But, if you would like to see what growing up on a dairy farm, drinking all the whole raw milk you want, does for a person, come meet my 97-year-old grandmother!

Kathleen
 
Be Well

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My adult daughter had various health problems including emotional swings until she gave up all sugar and increased her milk product consumption. She drinks half and half a pint at a time.

She lost 40 plus pounds, feels great, more energy, looks wonderful. No more wild mood swings either. She basically lives on vegetables, milk products, some whole grains and legumes, coconut milk, nuts and a little fruit. It works for her.
 
dissimulo

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To about half the population of the planet, who did not develop much in the way of milk-producing livestock, milk is pretty unhealthy (at least in the quantities that people of European descent typically consume). For the rest of us, it occupies a niche that is perhaps not as healthy in quantity as whole grains and vegetables, but is certainly much less toxic than Cheetos and Mountain Dew. ;)
 
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Regardless, for ANY type, etc, saying that "milk is deadly poison" is so totally wrong as to be considered inflammatory tripe.

"deadly poison" would mean causing instant, or imminent death. IOW, the article is sensationalist crap, and equating all "white" foods as "dangerous" is dumb, as well.

For sure, it would have taken care of that multi-generational family dairy farm problem years ago, if true!

Summerthyme
 
dissimulo

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gdpetti said:
Part of that blood type thing... the old O's or the newer B's etc...
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Naw - that blood type diet stuff is bunk. For example, you have predominantly type B blood in China and Mongolia, but Mongolians, with a tradition of consuming animal milk, do not typically have lactose intolerance, while almost all of China does have lactose intolerance. India also has many people with type B blood who don't have lactose intolerance. The genes that are responsible for blood type and the genes that are responsible for lactose intolerance do not appear to be connected in any substantial way.
 
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summerthyme said:
Regardless, for ANY type, etc, saying that "milk is deadly poison" is so totally wrong as to be considered inflammatory tripe.

"deadly poison" would mean causing instant, or imminent death. IOW, the article is sensationalist crap, and equating all "white" foods as "dangerous" is dumb, as well.

For sure, it would have taken care of that multi-generational family dairy farm problem years ago, if true!

Summerthyme
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I agree with you 150%.

Much of Asia people have traditionally had milk cows, goats and water buffalos for milk products, such as the Philippines and India (greater India which encompassses a lot of territory). Also many places in Africa, and all of Europe.
 
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I have ot admit concern about the hormones that get into milk from the implants some dairy farmers use. I dont feel I have enough info on that to be sure its a risk or not, so I consider it a concern. One i deal with by growing my own fresh raw goats milk. With 2 dexter heifers born this year so far, and another due to calve soon, I may keep one to train up aa a milk cow too, if for no other reason to feed my goat babies cows milk and then keep even more good goats milk for storage and cheese, etc. Its really nice eatign dairy and veggies and meat that you know what went nto it, how it was grown harvested and cared for. Helluva lot of work, but well worth it to me....
 
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Laura... there are NO "implants" approved or allowed in dairy cows in the US. (can't say about what happens in China, etc... but we don't- thank God!- import fluid milk from there, at least).

The only controversial "hormone" allowed in dairy cows in the US is rBST- it's BOVINE growth hormone which all cows produce naturally- the highest producers produce higher amounts. So, Monsanto decided to find a way to produce it and inject it.. and for awhile, it was used by somewhat less than 40% of cows in the US. It's become less and less financially sensible, given various financial factors (low milk prices, higher cull rates in treated cows, high feed prices) and current use is somewhere around 20% or fewer of the US herd.

All the scare stories about the stuff were wildly exaggerated, and the truth is, we weren't even allowed (our co-op, that is) to advertise our milk as "BST free", because there is no test which can differentiate between milk from treated and untreated cows.

We personally never used it, and wouldn't. We prefer to keep good cows 10 years or more, and BST does increase production in some animals enough to stress them... often keeping them from breeding back, or making them somewhat more susceptible to illness.

I still consider US produced milk to be one of the safest foods in the world- it's certainly one of the most regulated. I wonder how many other food producing facilities of ANY kind receive regular inspections from several levels of inspectors- local, state and Federal, and can immediately lose their license to sell food if they receive less than a 90 out of 100 rating? That's our reality, and it can be a booger to keep everything clean and perfectly sanitary and organized (a medication meant for heifers put back on the wrong shelf- even though we are the only ones who treat cows and know what to use can be an automatic failure or reinspect) every single day.

Plus, EVERY drop of milk sold.. no exceptions.. is tested at the farm, on the bulk truck, and again in the bulk silo at the plant. Again- how many foods can meet those standards?

Truthfully, commercial milk is likely to be safer than a lot of home produced milk. I know, some people do a great job with their own dairy animals... but boy, have I seen exceptions! (I do a lot of freebie "neighbor" vet work for my Amish- and a few non-Amish neighbors. Believe me when I say I wouldn't drink milk from many of their cows!) Their milk isn't tested daily (or ever) for bacteria, somatic cells, antibiotics (many of the Amish routinely feed tetracycline, although that practice has been banned for over a decade for commercial farms) or disease causing organisms. Ours.. IS.

Yes, some commercial farms- large and small- are less than ideal in their animal care, cleanliness and attention to detail. But even those MUST produce milk which meets all the standards, or they get closed down. No exceptions.

I know what you mean about wanting to know exactly how and where your food was produced- I feel the same, and I love having our own milk, ice cream, cheese, meat, etc. But for those who can't do that, the US milk supply is as safe as you're going to get.

Summerthyme
 
jed turtle

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thanks so much summerthyme. you are a treasure for the rest of us on the board. i wish i had enough land here to have a cow for milk and cheese.
messed with making my own soy milk for awhile till i found there was problems with using soy non-fermented. already had dairy goats, but between not enjoying the goat milk anywheres near as much as cow milk, and the incessant mischief those critters were getting into, i gave up.

i settle for store-bought organic milk nowadays.
 
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summerthyme said:
Laura... there are NO "implants" approved or allowed in dairy cows in the US. (can't say about what happens in China, etc... but we don't- thank God!- import fluid milk from there, at least).

The only controversial "hormone" allowed in dairy cows in the US is rBST- it's BOVINE growth hormone which all cows produce naturally- the highest producers produce higher amounts. So, Monsanto decided to find a way to produce it and inject it.. and for awhile, it was used by somewhat less than 40% of cows in the US. It's become less and less financially sensible, given various financial factors (low milk prices, higher cull rates in treated cows, high feed prices) and current use is somewhere around 20% or fewer of the US herd.

All the scare stories about the stuff were wildly exaggerated, and the truth is, we weren't even allowed (our co-op, that is) to advertise our milk as "BST free", because there is no test which can differentiate between milk from treated and untreated cows.

We personally never used it, and wouldn't. We prefer to keep good cows 10 years or more, and BST does increase production in some animals enough to stress them... often keeping them from breeding back, or making them somewhat more susceptible to illness.

I still consider US produced milk to be one of the safest foods in the world- it's certainly one of the most regulated. I wonder how many other food producing facilities of ANY kind receive regular inspections from several levels of inspectors- local, state and Federal, and can immediately lose their license to sell food if they receive less than a 90 out of 100 rating? That's our reality, and it can be a booger to keep everything clean and perfectly sanitary and organized (a medication meant for heifers put back on the wrong shelf- even though we are the only ones who treat cows and know what to use can be an automatic failure or reinspect) every single day.

Plus, EVERY drop of milk sold.. no exceptions.. is tested at the farm, on the bulk truck, and again in the bulk silo at the plant. Again- how many foods can meet those standards?

Truthfully, commercial milk is likely to be safer than a lot of home produced milk. I know, some people do a great job with their own dairy animals... but boy, have I seen exceptions! (I do a lot of freebie "neighbor" vet work for my Amish- and a few non-Amish neighbors. Believe me when I say I wouldn't drink milk from many of their cows!) Their milk isn't tested daily (or ever) for bacteria, somatic cells, antibiotics (many of the Amish routinely feed tetracycline, although that practice has been banned for over a decade for commercial farms) or disease causing organisms. Ours.. IS.

Yes, some commercial farms- large and small- are less than ideal in their animal care, cleanliness and attention to detail. But even those MUST produce milk which meets all the standards, or they get closed down. No exceptions.

I know what you mean about wanting to know exactly how and where your food was produced- I feel the same, and I love having our own milk, ice cream, cheese, meat, etc. But for those who can't do that, the US milk supply is as safe as you're going to get.

Summerthyme
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I agree with you 150%. And I will add that the video from the OP is using scare tactics with Casein. Casein is a natural protein in milk. SOME of the population is allergic to it, including myself. It does cause major gastic distress and excess mucus - IF you are allergic. It is a low number of the population. Many people confuse Lactose Intolerance (an enzyme) with Casein Allergy (a protein). The Casein Allergy is an autoimmune disorder and is actually pretty rare. My allergy was discovered ONLY AFTER a real lactose intolerance TEST. Casein Allergy is not genetic, so you do not pass it down to your children, so they can drink, and should drink milk safely. Not only is the US milk supply one of the safest, it is one of those essential foods for our children. For the few of us with the Casein Allergy, we just need to get our calcium and vitamin D somewhere else.

If more people were like you, and did actual research, they wouldn't be listening to the scare-mongers out there. If I would have listened to them, I would never have given my children milk, and they would have been undernourished as adults.
 
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I eat a paleo diet, which can be read about here.

http://thepaleodiet.blogspot.com/

In the diet one avoids milk, and grains mainly. There are a few other foods to stay away from it is believed, but those are the two mains one to avoid. I follow the diet as I've had a long running intestinal condition. Eating paleo has done wonders to improve my condition.

I wasn't all that surprised to read recently though that milk drinking might have been one of the more advantageous events for westerners.

http://isteve.blogspot.com/2010/10/conspicuous-assumption.html
 
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Casein is off our family's diet forever

We are severely allergic to it, and also to gluten. Without going into the gorey details, these foods can lead to serious malnutrition and osteoporosis. It was severe osteoporosis, and looking for the causes of it in my DH that we discovered that we are gluten and casein intolerant.

The worse problem is that, in severe cases, like my own, it leads to an actual autoimmune disorder. The body attacks its own enzyme which digests the gluten. Just like getting a swine flu shot, where some folks develop an autoimmune disorder because the swine content is so similar to their own bodies that the immune system goes on a rampage against itself (Guillain-Barre Syndrome), the immune system can attack other organs/cells as well. Some of us have celiac, and it attacks the intestinal walls, and when they are damaged, leak into the body at large and continue attacking vital organs.

It can show up as thyroid illness, hypothyroid, and many other ways. For us, every mouthfull of casein or gluten is like getting another swine flu shot -- as it triggers the autoimmune process all over again.

One important result is that incompletely digested proteins migrate to the brain and plug into opiate receptors, leading to brain fog, exhaustion or lethargy (depending on whether you try to work through it, I suppose), and social withdrawal.

We never suspected a problem with the milk -- milk and cheese were the backbone of our diet, and custards, including pumpkin pie, creme brulee', etc. were our favorite foods. DH was a great baker of sourdough and is now learning how to make it without wheat. Funny how your very favorite foods are the ones that can get ya. I spontaneously cursed and swore for DAYS after finding out! Now, only a few weeks into the new diet, I'm feeling better than I have in years.

Live and learn.

These are the guys that run the tests for our doctor. You don't need to go through a doctor to get them.

https://www.enterolab.com/
 
Tygerkittn

Tygerkittn

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I don't think wal mart or costco allow milk with hormones. We go through 4 gallons a week.
The most interesting and believable article I ever read, said that mad cow was activated when you also eat lamb from sheep with scabies. The fact that there were very few cases of mad cow in the US could be explained by the fact that we don't often eat lamb here. I've never even tasted it, I don't even know anyone who's eaten it more than once. The article was very scientific, I don't remember that part, just the conclusions.
It makes sense that just eating one or the other wouldn't do it alone, even cancer has to be activated by multiple triggers. Otherwise the US would have had it as extensively as Britain, IMO.
So I don't worry about mad cow, and I don't eat lamb.
 
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Barry Natchitoches

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My wife could never drink milk or partake in many dairy products because of lactose intolerance.


For YEARS, she was denied these pleasures because of lactose intolerance.


Then we found a wonderful organic, raw milk dairy out in rural West Tennessee.


Best milk you ever tasted. Raw milk, mind you. Best milk you ever tasted.


The farm is as clean as a hospital surgical suite, and they use the most up to date milking equipment and stuff.


They only have about 15 or so dairy cows, that graze on the better part of 400 acres. It's a cow's version of heaven to live there.


They do tours, so that children (of all ages and heights) can see where their milk comes from.


And the best part of all of this --- my wife finds that she can drink all the RAW MILK she wants, without problems with her lactose intolerance!


There are places on the web that explain why this is so, but the fact remains that my wife finally can enjoy the milk that so many others of us take for granted.


All because we found a clean source of organic, raw milk!
 
cleobc

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Sheep get a disease similar to BSE (Mad Cow) called SCRAPIE. It has nothing to do with scabies. Presumably transmission is similar.
 
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Thank you, Cleo!! Plus... it's got NOTHING to do with people eating lamb. Good grief...

They THINK it happened when they fed ground up sheep carcasses to cattle over in Britain. Sheep who had scrapie.. which is a prion disease.

Summerthyme
 
Flippper

Flippper

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Sugar didn't seem to be much of an issue when I was a kid and they had all the sugary cereals, candy bars and pop available. IMO, it's the GMO sugar, derived from sugar beets, etc., that may be at the heart of the massive numbers of diabetes (and possibly undetected hypothyroid type 2 which gives false positives on A1C tests). Think of all the foods they put sugar in, it's ubiquitous. Then you have high fructose corn syrup (I believe they changed the name to sugar sweet or corn sweetner because people were catching on to it's toxicity) which is also in everything AND I read that they don't have to label it's content in foods now except under "natural flavors" because it's a "natural" food. I really suspect it's the GMO content as TPTB have been frantically socking away heritage seeds in 2 seed vaults (that we know of, I'll wager there are many more) so when the terminator seeds have run their course they can break out the good one's for their own use.

Interesting that raw milk isn't affecting people with milk allergies, I was raised on beer and goat's milk because of mine.
 
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If I drink pasteurized milk I immediately have a Lupus flare. My health has improved dramatically since I started drinking raw goat milk. I drink about 1/2 gallon or more a day, doing hard work on the farm. The milk and dried fruit makes the bulk of my diet. Seems the more raw goat milk I drink, the better I feel.
 
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Perhaps a study should be done with human breast milk? Then see how the marketing braintrusts sells that product, for like goat milk, at least it fits the number of our stomachs... and add some of that lovely growth hormone we love so much and it might seem much the same... gotta fatten the cattle before 'graduation' day don't cha know?
 
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Barry Natchitoches said:
My wife could never drink milk or partake in many dairy products because of lactose intolerance.


For YEARS, she was denied these pleasures because of lactose intolerance.


Then we found a wonderful organic, raw milk dairy out in rural West Tennessee.


Best milk you ever tasted. Raw milk, mind you. Best milk you ever tasted.


The farm is as clean as a hospital surgical suite, and they use the most up to date milking equipment and stuff.


They only have about 15 or so dairy cows, that graze on the better part of 400 acres. It's a cow's version of heaven to live there.


They do tours, so that children (of all ages and heights) can see where their milk comes from.


And the best part of all of this --- my wife finds that she can drink all the RAW MILK she wants, without problems with her lactose intolerance!


There are places on the web that explain why this is so, but the fact remains that my wife finally can enjoy the milk that so many others of us take for granted.


All because we found a clean source of organic, raw milk!
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I had a conversation with a woman who said the same thing !
She is lactose intolerant and went to stay with her daughter who convinced her to try her raw milk
and she found she was able to drink it.
She said [don't know the truth of it] that pasteurizing removes some enzyme that helps lactose intolerant people digest the milk better.
[something like that]
 
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