WTF?!? Zimbabwe Government Turns To White Farmers For Help

Zimbabwe Government Turns To White Farmers For Help

http://news.radiovop.com

13/03/2010 21:33:00

Guruve, March 14, 2010 - In a desperate attempt to restore productivity at
repossessed farms, the government has recruited some former white commercial
farmers as "consultants" to assist newly resettled farmers in Mashonaland
Central Province.

Some new farmers in Guruve confirmed during a field day at the centre that
they were now getting assistance from some former white commercial farmers
in the area. In return, the farmers are allowed to stay at the farm house
and farm a small area around the farm.

One of the former white commercial farmers, Ian Henderson told journalists
at a field day that he had been recruited to assist the farmers. Among other
things, Henderson said he helps the farmers on such farming techniques as
using organic manure, fighting pests, water harvesting and other forms of
conservation farming.

Asked for his views about the government's violent land grab that displaced
him and thousands of other white commercial farmers, Henderson said the
programme was "coming up very well".

"The land reform is coming up, it is coming up very well. The new farmers
are improving by the day," Henderson told journalists on the sidelines of a
field day to celebrate the success of some 10 000 farmers who got inputs
assistance from the European Union (EU), through the United Nations Food and
Agriculture Organisation.

While the government has also deployed extension workers to the area, it is
understood they are not very well conversant with the crop production
techniques most suitable for the area.

A new farmer who took part at the event, speaking on condition of anonymity,
confirmed that they were being trained by Henderson and other white farmers
who live in the area.

"Since they started helping us out, things have greatly improved. Our area
is very tricky in that most of the time we do not receive adequate rains,
and we do not have irrigation facilities," said the farmer.

He said the white farmers also work as advisers to local extension officers,
identified only as Mashange and Chitate. Guruve, despite being in one of the
country's leading provinces in terms of crop production, ranks among the
driest areas in Zimbabwe.

Since 2000, the government has displaced more than 4 000 white commercial
farmers from their land, a move that is widely blamed for the perennial food
shortages in the country. The few white farmers that were initially spared
at the farms are now in trouble as well, as Zanu PF militia and army
officials, who are wantonly grabbing farms, including conservancies and
plantations protected under Bilateral Partnership Agreements.

Any White man who helps this communist is a fool and will deserve getting stood up against the wall and shot AFTER the work is done!!!
The whites should let these goblins starve to death, then reclaim their land!!!

+1000

Really, that sounds pretty foolhardy to me....


Sunny

hard to believe

Henderson told journalists on the sidelines of a
field day to celebrate the success of some 10 000 farmers who got inputs
assistance from the European Union (EU), through the United Nations Food and
Agriculture Organisation.

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...that they would agree to stay on while their country rapes them of their possessions. To see that the EU is backing this land grab with monetary support to the grabbers is breathtaking. I guess that these white farmers are desperate to hold on to something, where would they go, what resources do they have to leave? Everything has been taken from them. I wouldn't stay on, I'd be leaving the country. Once they have brought these new farmers up to speed, they will be in danger again.

ANY white who helps in Zimbabwe is IMO "giving aid and comfort to the enemy". An absolute WHORE. This is beyone unbelievable....

So, they're going to let the white farmer stay in a house and farm a "little bit" of land in exchange for him teaching the blacks to farm? Hmmm...I can't see this working in the long run.

Those farmers, however, love their homes as much as we love ours--or as much as some of us love ours. I live in the house my grandparents built. The thought of having to leave it is very scary and sad to me. I don't know how I could do it--no money to move, much less buy new property elsewhere. I think these farmers feel the same way--in many cases, they've farmed that land for generations.

As I watch the economy around me booming (if that's what the build-up of commercial and residential property indicates), I cringe. What was acres of woodlands six months ago is now being cleared for building. (I keep hoping the S will HTF before it actually gets built--especially the apartment buildings.)

My response: BITE ME!!

There's probably not enough "consultants" left in Zimbabwe to save it.


Rage

The average IQ of black Africa is 70.

They are Whores and traitors.

And once they have shown the others how to do it what secures them in their right to tay in the house and famr that 'little piece of land"?

They should keep a handgun on themselves at all times. I understand that being hacked to bits by a bunch of dull machetes kind of sucks. A bullet in the brain would be kinder even if one has to do it themselves.

Fred's Horseradish said:

The average IQ of black Africa is 70.

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Is that an opinion or a quoted fact?

Just curious.

If I'd had a farm taken away and given to someone who not only didn't deserve it but through incompetence ruined it, I wouldn't help one bit.

We are talking basic communism.

You make $20, we'll take it all away and then give you back $1 and for that you should be grateful. I don't think so.

Tristan said:

Is that an opinion or a quoted fact?

Just curious.

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http://davespeaks.wordpress.com/2007/10/17/african-inferiority-and-iq/
Oct 17, 2007 ... 1. The average IQ of black Americans is 85. The average IQ of sub-Saharan African nations is 70. 2. The one standard deviation (15 points on ...

Culture | African Inferiority and IQ

October 17, 2007 by David McQueen

In 2006 Satoshi Kanazawa, an evolutionary psychologist at LSE, suggested that Africa’s plight is to be blamed on low IQ. There was fury in March 2006 when Frank Ellis, a supporter of the Bell Curve, at the university of Leeds suggested that women and blacks were inferior to whites. So it is no suprise that the latest person to throw their hat into the ring, a Dr Watson on tour in the UK, has suggested that “black people were less intelligent than white people and the idea that “equal powers of reason” were shared across racial groups was a delusion” and “Western policies towards African countries were wrongly based on an assumption that black people were as clever as their white counterparts when “testing” suggested the contrary.” Hmm…

Now here’s the crunch. Right in the middle of black history month you can imagine the knee jerk responses that will come with this. Racist. Eugenics. Different types of intelligence, etc. I think stripping emotion away from this (if that is possible) a balanced reaction should be given.

If you are part of an environment which rates high IQ’s as a measure of success then of course this matters. This is exactly what the authors mentioned above focus on. Researchers have suggested that in the US those with the highest IQ tend to be Jewish, followed by Asian Americans, then “white” Americans with African Americans, Hispanics and Native Americans languishing near the bottom. So the measure of capitalism and success then is definitely correlated. It is easy within this context to then suggest that blacks are inferior, lazy less intelligent.

The irony of studies like this totally ignore those whites or any other racial and cultural groups which fall outside of this. Lets take for example the celebration of Asian Americans or Southern/South East Asians cultures in the UK . Often celebrated as hard working and succesful and intelligent. Held up as examples of what success could be people often forget that there are many uneducated in China, India, Japan, Korea whether through class or social policy or whatever. On the flip side we have the most educated and advanced Africans or Caribbeans coming from affluent families making their advances in many of the leading colleges in the US or UK.

All in all there has been some scientific research done. Whatever the motive, science has to be dealt with science. Such research will be loaded with assumptions and a certain baseline. That is what needs to be challenged. Heck if you are a parent, or a politician or a leader in an environment where there are educational challenges, would it not be better to focus on empowering and educating those kids in lateral (and horizontal) thinking and reasoning. Heck I have higher than average IQ but in the grand scheme of themes is that what is really important?

In conclusion one of the saddest things in this, is that whether we want to attribute it to the effects of colonialism, tribalism or any kind of ism, many of the inherent problems preventing advancement in Africa, can only be solved if true leadership can stand up and pour nonsense on the many assumptions made about countries on the continent.

ETA: I'm not sure that the IQ is really that important...the real measure of success is the "I can." For centuries out of time, Africa has supported a subsistence ecology--a form of cattle culture and/or a migrant lifestyle. Any cultivation was on a small village-by-village basis and they knew which local grasses/plants were edible...lots of tubers and, in some placed, rice. They eat rats--plentiful, easily caught--for protein. (They eat rats in South America, too.) It seems to me, through observation, that the attempt to "westernize" the emerging leaders has done nothing but create tyrants--on a continent known for the creation of tyrants. Tribalism on steroids...

In this case, my mom's stock statement is true, "We must pray for Christ's return--that is the only solution to the problem."

Tristan said:

Is that an opinion or a quoted fact?

Just curious.

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http://www.vdare.com/Sailer/wealth_of_nations.htm

http://www.ask.com/wiki/IQ_and_the_Wealth_of_Nations

http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Others-Doc-Blacks/+Doc-Blacks-Africa/AfricanIQIs70.html

http://www.sq.4mg.com/AfricaPoor.htm

A few links I found in the course of a few minutes

Volleyball Granny said:

So, they're going to let the white farmer stay in a house and farm a "little bit" of land in exchange for him teaching the blacks to farm? Hmmm...I can't see this working in the long run.

Those farmers, however, love their homes as much as we love ours--or as much as some of us love ours. I live in the house my grandparents built. The thought of having to leave it is very scary and sad to me. I don't know how I could do it--no money to move, much less buy new property elsewhere. I think these farmers feel the same way--in many cases, they've farmed that land for generations.

As I watch the economy around me booming (if that's what the build-up of commercial and residential property indicates), I cringe. What was acres of woodlands six months ago is now being cleared for building. (I keep hoping the S will HTF before it actually gets built--especially the apartment buildings.)

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Um perhaps.....

The same way many folks did when they left all their worldly possessions and used up what little money they had left to leave an oppressive govt. to move to the new world and start all over again?????


Just thought.....



Trust me, in tough times, what one has to do to survive, aka priorities, becomes the focus. If it were me...I'd been long gone. Houses, land, chairs, t.v.'s, farm equipment, clothes, shoes, automobiles, etc are replaceable....lives are not...

Just saying.....

Bad Hand said:

They are Whores and traitors.

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They are desperate...and they feel a loyalty to the land of Zimbabwe, though not the government.

Well, I would love to see some rocket geek with a 230 IQ and an African native with a 70 IQ dropped in the middle of the Sahara wearing their clothes and see who makes it out.

I know some incredibly stupid people with very high tested IQ's and I know a couple of old redneck boys that can't write and to tell you the truth I'll take those rednecks into a situation where the going is hard and one has to 'Makedo" over some dumbass high-IQ techno geek that cannot function without his Ipad.

dstraito said:

http://www.vdare.com/Sailer/wealth_of_nations.htm

http://www.ask.com/wiki/IQ_and_the_Wealth_of_Nations

http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Others-Doc-Blacks/+Doc-Blacks-Africa/AfricanIQIs70.html

http://www.sq.4mg.com/AfricaPoor.htm

A few links I found in the course of a few minutes

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the problem is that IQ tests are based on one's ability to read. Can't read? Then you automatically going to get a low IQ score, regardless of actual intelligence.


Rage

To be fair, Chinese IQ 110, Jews, 115,
me, will leave u guessing,

I have a simple guy helping on the ranch, probably can't read this, but,
he is very practical and strictly honest.

Fred's Horseradish said:

To be fair, Chinese IQ 110, Jews, 115,
me, will leave u guessing,

I have a simple guy helping on the ranch, probably can't read this, but,
he is very practical and strictly honest.

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What is Mugabwe's iQ, has he been tested?
Shirley not.......

American Rage said:

the problem is that IQ tests are based on one's ability to read. Can't read? Then you automatically going to get a low IQ score, regardless of actual intelligence.


Rage

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Don't forget taking round pegs and putting them in the proper holes, looking at blobs of ink and 'seeing' things.

You lose points of you say something like "Loook,there's the fold line on the blob!" or use the Bronze statue of a bull rider to hammer the pegs into and thru the wrong holes, they don't like that some strange reason.

Satanta said:

Well, I would love to see some rocket geek with a 230 IQ and an African native with a 70 IQ dropped in the middle of the Sahara wearing their clothes and see who makes it out.

I know some incredibly stupid people with very high tested IQ's and I know a couple of old redneck boys that can't write and to tell you the truth I'll take those rednecks into a situation where the going is hard and one has to 'Makedo" over some dumbass high-IQ techno geek that cannot function without his Ipad.

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get a life
I don't know any stupid people with a high IQ who cannot function, this is the ultimate crap low IQ ultimatum, name these low IQ people so that we know its not a figment of your imagination
OTOH I know that what you post is a piss take!
the reality is your post is a piss take, nothing wrong with that cannot answer this duplicate

you seem to associate high IQ with unpracticality, show us some proof

OTOH I think you are winding me up, so no problem what you say is purely a wind up to which I have responded

you are taking the piss as usual

Satanta said:

Don't forget taking round pegs and putting them in the proper holes, looking at blobs of ink and 'seeing' things.

You lose points of you say something like "Loook,there's the fold line on the blob!" or use the Bronze statue of a bull rider to hammer the pegs into and thru the wrong holes, they don't like that some strange reason.

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I can't believe you are posting this stuff

OTOH I do understand why.......

American Rage said:

the problem is that IQ tests are based on one's ability to read. Can't read? Then you automatically going to get a low IQ score, regardless of actual intelligence.


Rage

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Being able to read is a good criterion of basic intelligence, at least for the past 600 years..........

Richard said:

I can't believe you are posting this stuff

OTOH I do understand why.......

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I doubt you have any clue.

Richard said:

Being able to read is a good criterion of basic intelligence, at least for the past 600 years..........

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Reading what? Materiel written by others on paper or parchment?

How about an Indian who read signs, that could track a snake across a flat rock and tell you where the water was in a desert-type environment?

I am not dismissing IQ tests only saying they measure only a small percentage of pre-determined data.

An IQ test from 1778 would be vastly different from an IQ test of 2010 because the world has moved on.

I am not trying to say the animals in Zimbabwe are high IQ or even intelligent...except in their world they might be geniuses.

If you woke up tomorrow with all of your knowledge, in a village in Africa 200 years ago how well do you think you would fare with your "IQ"?

Would you know what to eat? Be able to speak the language? Know how to build a shelter? Know how to start a fire? How about how to preserve your food or even make a workable weapon to feed or defenc yourself with?

Likely you would, for some time, be considered the village idiot. Eventually, if you lived you would adapt but until then...?

[[nothing personal Richard, you have always been ok by me but I am trying to get people to stop limiting themselves simply to what a book tells them. ]]

Why don't we just stop skirting the issue here. That is, the Euro-American ideal of "success" is simply not compatible with the African ideal of "success".

Law versus caprice.

Reality.

c

Can't wait to hear of the overwhelming response of the "white farmers" flocking back to help their black brethren.

This is truly rich.

cracka said:

Why don't we just stop skirting the issue here. That is, the Euro-American ideal of "success" is simply not compatible with the African ideal of "success".

Law versus caprice.

Reality.

c

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Bingo. It is also one of the reasons our govt is a failure when dealing with these cultures including those of the ME.

European/American beliefs and ideals are alien however the other cultures have learned to lie and in-essence use us to their best benefit and our 'leaders; cannot get past "WYSI not WYG" thinking.

Satanta said:

European/American beliefs and ideals are alien however the other cultures have learned to lie and in-essence use us to their best benefit and our 'leaders; cannot get past "WYSI not WYG" thinking.

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Well that is a big, fat can of worms right there. There have been (probably) millions spent on think tanks to try to handle that one with kid gloves. All culminating in the realization that we must ultimately exert force to protect our interests.

I'm OT, I'll quit .

c

When the natives visited the farm of the whiles, SOP was to slash the throat of the man, rape the woman repeatedly then slash the throat, and lastly throw the baby in the bathtub and light it on fire. Why on earth would anyone help these people?

IF there are any white farms left alive, I would tell them to screw it. they were killing them off like they were mad dogs. now they got what they want, they can root , hog ,or die.

They can't be very smart if they don't even know how to farm the land that they have lived on since the beginning of time.

There is something deeply disgusting about this guy helping the very people who racially cleansed his people from their land. He is a traitor and a fool.

I'd teach them how to grow things the wrong way, plant poison oak instead of vegetables, use salt as fertilizer, everything has to be planted 3 feet deep and the soil packed on the seeds tight, urine is the exact same thing as Miracle Grow, Brawndo has what plants crave, etc...


In other words, I'd make DAMN SURE they starved themselves out!

Wiley said:

I'd teach them how to grow things the wrong way, plant poison oak instead of vegetables, use salt as fertilizer, everything has to be planted 3 feet deep and the soil packed on the seeds tight, urine is the exact same thing as Miracle Grow, Brawndo has what plants crave, etc...


In other words, I'd make DAMN SURE they starved themselves out!

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LOL!
Now that's good.

Make sure to beat feet before the dummies start dropping, though.
They're stupid, but they're not THAT stupid.

Satanta said:

I doubt you have any clue.




Reading what? Materiel written by others on paper or parchment?

How about an Indian who read signs, that could track a snake across a flat rock and tell you where the water was in a desert-type environment?

I am not dismissing IQ tests only saying they measure only a small percentage of pre-determined data.

An IQ test from 1778 would be vastly different from an IQ test of 2010 because the world has moved on.

I am not trying to say the animals in Zimbabwe are high IQ or even intelligent...except in their world they might be geniuses.

If you woke up tomorrow with all of your knowledge, in a village in Africa 200 years ago how well do you think you would fare with your "IQ"?

Would you know what to eat? Be able to speak the language? Know how to build a shelter? Know how to start a fire? How about how to preserve your food or even make a workable weapon to feed or defenc yourself with?

Likely you would, for some time, be considered the village idiot. Eventually, if you lived you would adapt but until then...?

[[nothing personal Richard, you have always been ok by me but I am trying to get people to stop limiting themselves simply to what a book tells them. ]]

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OK fine, I just get a bit carried away when people talk about IQ (not being important), I think IQ is not just the stanford-binet test but a wider measure of intelligence of all types, including general savvy, practical ability, inventiveness etc

Jubilation T. Cornpone said:

LOL!
Now that's good.

Make sure to beat feet before the dummies start dropping, though.
They're stupid, but they're not THAT stupid.

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Oh no doubt!

They're going to turn on the ones that have to help them so if it were me, I'd figure once I was approached for help, that would be the start of the countdown till I was burned out of there so might as well burn them first then bail!

Asking the white farmers to help the people who turned them out?

You have GOT to be kidding me.....

Were I in that situation, no language on earth would suffice when it came to describing just how quickly and how loudly I'd tell them to get f***ed.