ALERT 12 Dead, 50+ Injured In MASS SHOOTING At Aurora, Colorado Movie Theater 7-20-2012

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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Just got up a couple hours ago, watching FOX news, there was a Judge Pirro on screaming about "Where did this guy get those guns, where did he get a flak jacket."
Definitely going to be a push to make guns less available.
 

Lee2

Senior Member
I don't yet buy the "sold out" theory. I think this guy is something else. He didn't just show up and start shooting. He was very professional about it. Guess we wait and see. That his father is Turkish - interesting twist.
 

Mzkitty

I give up.
*snip*

A San Diego woman who identified herself as James Holmes' mother told ABC News she had awoken unaware of the shooting and had not yet been contacted by authorities. She immediately expressed concern that her son may have been involved.

"You have the right person," she said, apparently speaking on gut instinct. "I need to call the police... I need to fly out to Colorado."

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/auror...d-james-holmes/story?id=16818889#.UAlXAaDSq1A
 

Mzkitty

I give up.
*snip* - go to link, says apt was booby trapped and buckets of extra ammo:

Other details that have come out about the alleged shooter:

He's being reported as white.
24 years old.
Reports indicate that he has no known connection to any terrorist organization.
He told police after being apprehended that there were explosives in his car, but none were found.

Also this:

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/james-holmes-aurora-shooting-2012-7#ixzz21ASVbKvw
 

Lone_Hawk

Resident Spook
I worked my way through college in movie theatres; this type of attack always scared the sh-t out of me since back in the 90's. Short of scanners at the door way, there is nothing stopping someone from carrying in a short-barreled weapon and a butt-load of spare magazines and start shooting. And with the prevalence of backpacks, and your minimum-wage usher not giving a sh-t to check it, bombs were always on my peripheral.

My family always thought I was off-center when we went to the odd theatre-night with my 1911 on my hip. this is why i carry...

imagine the difference just ONE ccw would have made...

My thoughts exactly, but here in NC it is illegal for me to carry in a venue that you have to pay to get into, theaters, state fair, anything like that.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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As I said before, IIRC neither handguns nor CCW is allowed in Denver (and Aurora is right up against Denver).
 

Mzkitty

I give up.
Police recovered 1 rifle, 1 handgun, gas mask when Colorado shooting suspect arrested; 3rd gun still inside theater - statement via @NBCNews

Submitted 3 mins ago by editor


Photo: Fire truck ladder at Colorado shooting suspect's apartment; authorities to enter through window - @jeremyjojola

Submitted 6 mins ago from www.mobypicture.com by editor

http://www.mobypicture.com/user/jeremyjojola/view/13329669

Picture ^^^^^^


@9NEWS tweeted:

Family of 3month old taken to University Hospital tell us the baby is doing okay - was NOT shot. Baby was checked... http://t.co/7QI0m2yE

Submitted 3 mins ago from twitter.com by editor


Too cheap to get a freaking babysitter for cripe's sake ^^^^^^^^^

:rolleyes:
 

Shea Grey

Membership Revoked by Request
*snip* - go to link, says apt was booby trapped and buckets of extra ammo:

Other details that have come out about the alleged shooter:

He's being reported as white.
24 years old.
Reports indicate that he has no known connection to any terrorist organization.
He told police after being apprehended that there were explosives in his car, but none were found.

Also this:

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/james-holmes-aurora-shooting-2012-7#ixzz21ASVbKvw

prior miltary experience?.......betcha. this smells very very bad.
 

undead

Veteran Member
this ain't about guns, although you will see the predictable bunch come out to make it about such
 

mt4design

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Just woke up and heard this news on the radio. Shocked.

Thanks to all for the news in this thread. It is literally a living timeline of the tragedy as it happened.

Prayers for the victims and their families.

Mike
 

Shea Grey

Membership Revoked by Request
@9NEWS tweeted:

Family of 3month old taken to University Hospital tell us the baby is doing okay - was NOT shot. Baby was checked... http://t.co/7QI0m2yE

Submitted 3 mins ago from twitter.com by editor


Too cheap to get a freaking babysitter for cripe's sake ^^^^^^^^^

:rolleyes:

roll your eyes, but me and the Red Warrioress hired a babysitter exactly ONCE in our now 16 year old son's life....not coz we are cheap, but becoz WE DONT TRUST ANYBODY....we didnt want anybody left alone with our baby....go easy sis.
 

Mzkitty

I give up.
*tsk*

Statement from NYPD: 'As a precaution against copycats and to raise the comfort levels among movie patrons in the wake of the horrendous shooting in Colorado, the New York City Police Department is providing coverage at theaters where the 'The Dark Knight Rises' is playing in the five boroughs.' - via @NBCNews

Submitted 7 secs ago by editor
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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And we know what the DICKtator in chief will say by way of TelePrompTer:

"I am so saddened and appalled by this incident that I have order a freeze on gun and ammunition sales nationally, until such time as the issue of how this man came to obtain his arsenal is resolved. I hope that all REAL Americans will side with my government in this action. Further, the TSA will be expanded to cover all public venues across the nation. We will not allow the safety of REAL Americans to be placed in jeopardy, and I know that all REAL Americans want to feel safe more than anything else. In this desire, I will spare no effort on the part of my government to assist you in feeling safe and secure.

May Allah bless the United States of America"



We all know where this is going. Lock & load people. The day we've dreaded may have just arrived....
 

Mzkitty

I give up.
roll your eyes, but me and the Red Warrioress hired a babysitter exactly ONCE in our now 16 son's life....not coz we are cheap, but becoz WE DONT TRUST ANYBODY....we didnt want anybody left alone with our baby....go easy sis.

No. Babies do not belong in movie theaters. I've never seen one here, they probably would be asked to leave the second one started crying.

P.S. I hardly ever had a babysitter myself because I don't trust people.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
We all know where this is going. Lock & load people. The day we've dreaded may have just arrived....

That won't happen....at least not yet. Obama will not be able to pull off a successful Reichstag type event. This is a different situation than Germany pre WWII some similarities but Obama is not an Adolph Hitler, even if he would aspire to such. In order to do such a thing it would require the support and approval of most of the population. This would only happen after a series of events like this each one getting worse and building on the previous events. There is not enough law enforcement or enough military in the US to pull off such a thing against the will of the general population. They will have to swing most of the population over to their point of view and that would require a hell of a lot more carnage than what we've seen so far.
 

Shea Grey

Membership Revoked by Request
No. Babies do not belong in movie theaters. I've never seen one here, they probably would be asked to leave the second one started crying.

P.S. I hardly ever had a babysitter myself because I don't trust people.

i agree with you, we didnt take our boy into a theater till maybe 2, and i'm glad we're kindred spirits as far as our babies go, my "baby" is making his Dad Jambalaya and Rib eye as we speak......i feel very f###ed up right now, grieving for innocents, wondering if this is something MORE than it appears....i just think of those dear people......why? and if its a phalsy phlag sit?....thats whats messing me up....if it is.......GOD HAVE MERCY on us.......just the fact that i would even THINK such an act is plausible is .......unbearable to my soul...unbearable.
 

annieosage

Veteran Member
I just don't know. Something does not ring right with me. Maybe it's all too fresh to have the details but why were the first responders asking for gas masks? They just played the police scanners and the guys in the field were literally screaming for gas masks. (Maybe I missed it earlier in the thread)

Something not right here....
 

Shea Grey

Membership Revoked by Request
And we know what the DICKtator in chief will say by way of TelePrompTer:

"I am so saddened and appalled by this incident that I have order a freeze on gun and ammunition sales nationally, until such time as the issue of how this man came to obtain his arsenal is resolved. I hope that all REAL Americans will side with my government in this action. Further, the TSA will be expanded to cover all public venues across the nation. We will not allow the safety of REAL Americans to be placed in jeopardy, and I know that all REAL Americans want to feel safe more than anything else. In this desire, I will spare no effort on the part of my government to assist you in feeling safe and secure.

May Allah bless the United States of America"



We all know where this is going. Lock & load people. The day we've dreaded may have just arrived....

Dennis, you know i want to do? i want to watch him REAL close. the 'tell' will be this, if the President goes ANYWHERE NEAR near 2nd amdment issues...anything....no matter how oblique...THATS the tell.
 

Dex

Constitutional Patriot
Guy sticks around to get arrested? Tells everyone where the rest of his explosives are? Sounds like another MK Ultra Manchurian setup to me. Timing is everything, UN arms treaty, etc.
 

mt4design

Has No Life - Lives on TB
ABC News already implicating The Tea Party!

What?

If the term "Constitutionalist" gets thrown around then we have an idea where this is going.

Here is what I am thinking...

If there is no accomplice to open, block or unlock that exit then perhaps this guy went to an earlier showing and rigged the exit.

Otherwise, if there is an accomplice, then what comes next?

Mike
 

skwentnaflyer

Veteran Member
roll your eyes, but me and the Red Warrioress hired a babysitter exactly ONCE in our now 16 year old son's life....not coz we are cheap, but becoz WE DONT TRUST ANYBODY....we didnt want anybody left alone with our baby....go easy sis.

uh huh, right with you on that one
 

Captbill

Veteran Member
I just read the CCW laws for Colorado---I don't see where CCW is prohibited in Denver or Aurora--only that magazines over 20 in Denver are prohibited. Perhaps the theater prohibits weapons but I can't see where they are banned--Dennis--where did you find that? (My Source Handgunlaw.us)
 

Archetype

Veteran Member
but why were the first responders asking for gas masks?

The shooter was tossing tear gas; the cops no doubt saw/smelled the gas from well outside the immediate scene
 

VesperSparrow

Goin' where the lonely go
I just don't know. Something does not ring right with me. Maybe it's all too fresh to have the details but why were the first responders asking for gas masks? They just played the police scanners and the guys in the field were literally screaming for gas masks. (Maybe I missed it earlier in the thread)

Something not right here....
I think because the infiltrator used a gas mask and tear gas in the theater....
 

eXe

Techno Junkie
I have been watching this on TV since 2 AM and already the anti gun comments are being spewed. You can bet they will try to use this to place more restrictive laws on guns in the coming weeks, as always when a Dem is in the white house and a mass shooting occurs. Already I am seeing the idiots making anti gun comments on Facebook and YouTube.

I will never understand what drives someone to do this, I have been highly pissed off in my life at times and never thought "Oh I know, I will get a gun and shoot up a place"...

Honestly, part of me does wonder if this is not some kind of staged attack with the thought of banning guns in the future, as crazy as it sounds.
 

annieosage

Veteran Member
Honestly, part of me does wonder if this is not some kind of staged attack with the thought of banning guns in the future, as crazy as it sounds.

I agree with this 100000%. It just makes me think like was this guy brainwashed or something??
 

Mac

Veteran Member
Dumb question ... but how easy is it to obtain / purchase tear gas canisters? Wouldnt think that would be a commonly purchasable item ... but I've never looked.
 

Chair Warmer

Membership Revoked
From one of the news reports. The man, who did not give his name, said he heard gunfire continue for at least 20 minutes.

I thought there were police around the theatres because of the large crowd ? They let an active shooter shoot for twenty mins ?

When someone is in fear and they have adrenaline pumping through them, their perception of time can slow down drasticly.

5 minutes can seem like 20 or 30.
 

Border guard

Inactive
What the hell was a 3 month old doing at a movie theater at midnight? What kind of parents are they? It's good to know that this country is still all about greed (film companies - midnight showings) and narcissism. This country is nuts!!



Too cheap to get a freaking babysitter for cripe's sake ^^^^^^^^^


:rolleyes:
 
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