ALERT Local FEMA Office Distributing Pamphlet that Addresses How to Prep for Food Shortage

Barry Natchitoches

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I have the pamphlet in my hands.

A new pamphlet being mass distributed by the Memphis/Shelby County Emergency Management Agency spends several pages advising citizens what to do when the food supply is low, and telling them what foods they can safely store for the intermediate and long term.

Here's a few quotes from the pamphlet:

"When Food Supplies are Low

If activity is reduced, healthy people can survive on half their usual food intake for an extended period and without any food for many days. Food, unlike water, may be rationed safely, except for children and pregnant women.

If your water supply is limited, try to avoid foods that are high in fat and protein, and don't stock salty foods, since they will make you thirsty. Try to eat salt free crackers, whole grain cereals and canned foods with high liquid content.

You don't need to go out and buy unfamiliar foods to prepare an emergency food supply....

....


Make sure you have a manual can opener and disposable utensils. And don't forget nonperishable food for your pets....


Include vitamin, mineral and protein supplements in your stockpile...."


Then it goes on to list the shelf life for many foods that one should consider stockpiling for intermediate and long term storage:


"Use within six months:

Powdered milk (boxed)
Dried fruit (metal containers)
Dry, crisp crackers
Potatoes


Use within one year:

Canned condensed meat and vegetable soups
Canned fruits, fruit juices and vegetables
Ready-to-eat cereals and uncooked instant cereals
Peanut butter
Jelly
Hard candy and canned nuts
Vitamin C


May be stored indefinitely:

Wheat
Vegetable oils
Dried corn
Baking powder
Soybeans
Instant coffee, tea and cocoa
Salt
Noncarbonated soft drinks
White rice
Boullion products
Dry pasta
Powdered milk (in nitrogen packed cans)"


OK, folks, we can quivel about the specific length of time they recommended for storing particular food items, but to do so is to miss the point:


THE LOCAL BRANCH OF FEMA (IN MEMPHIS TN) IS ADVISING PEOPLE TO STORE FOOD FOR THE INTERMEDIATE AND LONG TERM, AND EVEN GIVING THEM SOME GUIDANCE IN HOW TO DO IT!

This is no FOAF report -- I have the freaken pamphlet sitting in my grubby little paws as I write this.


If this is not a DOT, I don't know what is!

:shkr::shkr::shkr:
 

BigFootsCousin

Molon Labe!
Barry, is there anything 'else' on that pamphlet that would indicate as to "why" this is being put out to the public?

Were there any associated flyers that were distributed that would 'connect-the-dot' as to why this is out?

Thanks!

BFC
 

Barry Natchitoches

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Well, they are doing this very low key.


It is included in a new, 16 page pamphlet that the office is beginning to issue at public events entitled: "Prepare for Disasters Before They Strike: Build a Disaster Supplies Kit."


Thing is, only the first part of the book talks about how to build a disaster supply kit.


The rest of the book (most of it, actually) talks about how to purify water and find water in a water shortage and then all of the food storage stuff.


Now, none of the specific food storage information presented in this pamphlet is new to anybody who has spent at least two days here at TB2K.


But the dot, IMHO, is the fact that our local FEMA office has changed its recommendation from having just 3 days of extra food (which was always the recommendation until about a year or two ago) to having 2 weeks supply of food (which they moved to I guess around a year or two ago) to now -- telling people they should store enough food for a indeterminant but lengthy amount of time.


THAT is the important change, IMHO.


The way they did it, however, is so low key and "stealthy" as to be missed by all but the most aware and keen observers...
 

pops88

Girls with Guns Member
OK, folks, we can quivel about the specific length of time they recommended for storing particular food items, but to do so is to miss the point:

My first thought was someone should have shared this info with my mother about 40 years ago. LOL. Although I don't trust FEMA, seeing the major disasters that have happened recently, at least a couple people were able to rub some brain cells together and think ahead.
 

Ben Sunday

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Very interesting item. Revealing too.

The line about canned veggies for only one year is silly. I have used peas that were three years old...great. Just make sure the can is intact with no leaking or bulges.

Lots of good, basic info for the average sheeple. Anything that will motivate the masses must be a good thing.

Thank you for posting this.
 

IndyGirl

Wondering
I would suspect they are putting this out because hurricane season is gearing up.

THE LOCAL BRANCH OF FEMA (IN MEMPHIS TN) IS ADVISING PEOPLE TO STORE FOOD FOR THE INTERMEDIATE AND LONG TERM, AND EVEN GIVING THEM SOME GUIDANCE IN HOW TO DO IT!

hurricane season is gearing up.......IN MEMPHIS TN????
 

Hansa44

Justine Case
THE LOCAL BRANCH OF FEMA (IN MEMPHIS TN) IS ADVISING PEOPLE TO STORE FOOD FOR THE INTERMEDIATE AND LONG TERM, AND EVEN GIVING THEM SOME GUIDANCE IN HOW TO DO IT!

hurricane season is gearing up.......IN MEMPHIS TN????

Maybe. You never know about global warming.
 

Barry Natchitoches

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Hansa,

Hurricanes are not a problem here in Memphis -- we're 400 miles north of the Gulf.


Earthquakes are, of course, since we are 30 miles south of the southern most point on the New Madrid Fault Line.


But local FEMA has been prepping folks in these parts for a possible eruption on the New Madrid as long as I have lived in Memphis (almost 20 years now), and they have always offered the standard FEMA advice to have 3 days of non-perishable foods available (changed to 2 weeks of food about a year or two ago).


NEVER has local FEMA -- or any other branch of FEMA that I know of -- advised folks to stockpile food for the intermediate or long haul.


Also note that the phamphlet uses the word "stockpile," not "hoard."


I think their choice of words is significant, too, since .gov has always chosen to use the word "hoard"...
 

Barry Natchitoches

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Mr. Gravy,


I was unable to pull up the .pdf file that you provided the link for.


However, I am 100% certain that if I had been able to pull it up, that it would have turned out to be the 16 page handout that the local FEMA reserves put together for the CERT classes that they teach. They also mass produce that particular 16 page handout and give it to the general public at pretty much any emergency preparedness function they are invited to participate in.


That 16 page handout is chock full of a huge amount of information on how to prepare your family for a single family fire, an earthquake, flash flood, tornado, and even haz-mat emergencies and what to do when local authorities issue a shelter in place order. It has only one single page on how to prepare a disaster kit, and recommends only 2 weeks worth of food storage. (The older version only recommended 3 days of storage, and frankly, I don't know which version is posted on the website since I could not get to it with my ancient computer hardware).


The coloring book -- which I also have copies of -- is also given out at the same public functions as the 16 page handout that I referenced in the paragraph above.


These publications have been widely distributed by EMA Reservists for several years now.


The publication that I quoted in the opening post on this thread is NEW. It is so new that there are only a few copies of it over at the EOC (Emergency Operations Center) right now.


A friend of mine is an EMA Reservist and got his hands on only one of four copies that were available for the reservists to look at tonight, at their monthly meeting. The new pamphlet was discussed briefly at their meeting, but only to the extent of notifying the reserves that there is a new pamphlet on board for them to give out at future public education functions. When he saw the significance of the changes made in the recommendations, he immediately faxed me a copy of it.
 

Hansa44

Justine Case
Hansa,

Hurricanes are not a problem here in Memphis -- we're 400 miles north of the Gulf.


Earthquakes are, of course, since we are 30 miles south of the southern most point on the New Madrid Fault Line.


But local FEMA has been prepping folks in these parts for a possible eruption on the New Madrid as long as I have lived in Memphis (almost 20 years now), and they have always offered the standard FEMA advice to have 3 days of non-perishable foods available (changed to 2 weeks of food about a year or two ago).


NEVER has local FEMA -- or any other branch of FEMA that I know of -- advised folks to stockpile food for the intermediate or long haul.


Also note that the phamphlet uses the word "stockpile," not "hoard."


I think their choice of words is significant, too, since .gov has always chosen to use the word "hoard"...


Well, if the southeast breaks off into the ocean due to a big earthquake, you will have hurricanes in Memphis.
 

Mrs Smith

Inactive
If they published a pamphlet entitled "Syphillis: How to not contract it", would you be this alarmed? Advising people on how to prepare for emergencies is part of their job. Its no big deal.
 

Christian for Israel

Knight of Jerusalem
If they published a pamphlet entitled "Syphillis: How to not contract it", would you be this alarmed? Advising people on how to prepare for emergencies is part of their job. Its no big deal.

then why isn't FEMA doing this anywhere else? and why have they always before advised to ONLY prep for 3 days?
 

Jumpy Frog

Browncoat sympathizer
then why isn't FEMA doing this anywhere else? and why have they always before advised to ONLY prep for 3 days?

Because this isn't FEMA, but a local county level emegency program as stated by the first posts "Memphis/Shelby County Emergency Management Agency ". I work with 4 levels of Emergency Management (District {My real job}, County and State{ARES} and Federal {CERT}).........all do seperate and independate public service programs like this..........depending on funds and pet projects.
 

Terriannie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I agree with you Barry. This is definitely different than any other run of the mill preparedness plan and faaaaar more intensive than what we are given here in hurricane country!!

Could you tell us how these were given out which could be a telling factor in how soon we'll be calling on those suggestions? If they were sent by mail to all country residents then I'd say it's a true heads up. (But then that leads to the question as to why only in your county?) However, if these pamphlets were distributed just to be put on various gov./doctor office desks/waiting areas it may not be as imminent as we think but just "out there" so that when the real ones come it won't be as unfamiliar.

At any rate, at least they're trying.
 

libtoken

Inactive
If we got something from our local authorities here, my take would be "they are finally telling people well in advance that it could be a week or so before power is restored to their homes after a big bad storm."

It doesn't take much in the northern VA area to knock out power- a big bad line of thunderstorms/near-tornadoes like June 4 will do it. People (especially at the top of the hill here) STILL are hauling out parts of trees and shrubs to the side of the road to await pickup.

Fortunately, we were concerned enough about neighbors' trees (already had done ours) to get their permission to cut off some limbs, back in April. Another form of prep.
 

Sharon

Inactive
Barry: Thanks for the information.

I was able to pull up the phamplet and nowhere did it give the information you gave, regarding "long-term" storage.

Personally, I think your branch feels that a food shortage is a possibility, that's why it's now included in the phamplet.

Very interesting and definitely a dot, at least to me.
 

libtoken

Inactive
Northern Virginia actually has two major rail freight lines running through it, so there are alternatives to long-distance truck delivery of food to the stores.

But other locations may have more difficulty if the cost of diesel causes more truckers to park their rigs.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Mrs. Smith, long ago and far away in another incarnation, we here literally BEGGED the PTB to say basically what that pamphlet says.

The members here who actually HAD contact WITH some of the higher end PTB ASKED WHY they weren't making that level of suggestion, or even the 2 week suggestion, and those members were told that they PTB didn't want to "scare" the public, and that was why they weren't saying anything.

THIS is why Barry is so surprised that they are "just doing their job"....
 

Jumpy Frog

Browncoat sympathizer
Mrs. Smith, long ago and far away in another incarnation, we here literally BEGGED the PTB to say basically what that pamphlet says.

The members here who actually HAD contact WITH some of the higher end PTB ASKED WHY they weren't making that level of suggestion, or even the 2 week suggestion, and those members were told that they PTB didn't want to "scare" the public, and that was why they weren't saying anything.

THIS is why Barry is so surprised that they are "just doing their job"....

I concur. This has been the mindset for far to long. Even some Emergency Managers have their heads in the sand when it comes to events longer than a week, that cover more than a FEMA region. We here in CA (the land of fires, floods and EQs) by and far come out ahead on pre-planning and mitagation, but we're still waaaay behind IMO. Our populations idea of emergency preparedness is for the most part..........hoping that their cell phone works so they can take pics of the event.
 

Nuthatch

Inactive
If you haven't seen any of this go to www.ready.gov and order a copy or two of the preparedness book or download it. I actually have ordered multiple copies (10 or so) to give to the students in the first aid classes at the school.
 

Mrs Smith

Inactive
My point was that this is nothing to get all freaked out about. OMG! It's a pamphlet! Run for your lives!
We won't have to worry about 80% of the folks on the board, or the country, cause they'll have all croaked from a heart attack within the first 30 seconds of public announcement of "the event". If this causes panic, I can't imagine their reaction real-world.

Here's what was posted:

"THE LOCAL BRANCH OF FEMA (IN MEMPHIS TN) IS ADVISING PEOPLE TO STORE FOOD FOR THE INTERMEDIATE AND LONG TERM, AND EVEN GIVING THEM SOME GUIDANCE IN HOW TO DO IT!

This is no FOAF report -- I have the freaken pamphlet sitting in my grubby little paws as I write this.

If this is not a DOT, I don't know what is!"
 

Jean B

Inactive
INTERMEDIATE AND LONG TERM

Of what? What is long term? The intermediate has been the norm be it 3 days or two weeks!

If the Iran war hits and gas goes to $15.00 a gallon, the economy of this world will halt. That's just one example of what we are on the brink of!!! Three days of food will not do the deal and most still don't have that.

Panic could kill lots of people. Being hungry and not having the security of getting food will flip the US out! I believe FEMA is saying something here. THE REALITY of what is heading our way.


The American public is not used to being hungry or doing without on almost any level. A famin in America is not a welcome thought but it is coming. Life as we know it is about to change and the PTB know that too. I'm glad they are beginning to warn but the point of this thread is the DOT that is really being stated.

Basically, it could be harder than 3 days or 2 weeks. Lack of food could be long term so prepare.

Thanks for posting Barry.
 

GingerN

Veteran Member
My point was that this is nothing to get all freaked out about. OMG! It's a pamphlet! Run for your lives!
We won't have to worry about 80% of the folks on the board, or the country, cause they'll have all croaked from a heart attack within the first 30 seconds of public announcement of "the event". If this causes panic, I can't imagine their reaction real-world.

Here's what was posted:

"THE LOCAL BRANCH OF FEMA (IN MEMPHIS TN) IS ADVISING PEOPLE TO STORE FOOD FOR THE INTERMEDIATE AND LONG TERM, AND EVEN GIVING THEM SOME GUIDANCE IN HOW TO DO IT!

This is no FOAF report -- I have the freaken pamphlet sitting in my grubby little paws as I write this.

If this is not a DOT, I don't know what is!"


I was not going to post because it sounds like I am bashing Memphis, but I am really not. I just understand that area. My family on my dad's side has been on the north end of Shelby/south end of Tipton counties 200+ yrs.

Mrs. Smith, you don't understand the mindset that TPTB in Memphis and Shelby county have. The political machines of Chicago and New York in the early 20th century have nothing on the one currently in Memphis itself. These folks in power don't look beyond the next basketball season, much less about trying to be prepared for something-anything unless something has scared them badly or it will line their pockets in some way. And rarely do they do anything because it makes sense or is the right thing to do. It is like banging your head against a brick wall. Ask Barry if I am wrong.

Here is an example: a few years back, there was a storm that was pretty massive. We called it Hurricane Elvis, because of 120 mph straight line winds. Power was out all over the region. The power companies in MS met at the DeSoto Civic Center with their line crews to go help. They were turned back and told that they were not qualified to work on MLGW lines, and they would only use MLGW crews. Power should have been restored within a couple days. For some areas, it was over a week. In July. In the midsouth. H*** is only a little hotter. People didn't have non perishable foods stored in those areas. The outlying areas did as that is farm country, but the inner city didn't have a clue.

I can only hope that someone got a clue and thought, hey, maybe we don't want the 1994 ice storm, or Hurricane Elvis to repeat and we need to take precautions as good sense. More than likely, with the corruption on the city council and King Willie's office, there is some way that the PTB will benefit. If neither of those is correct, then yeah, we have a major problem because they have gotten wind that something big is afoot.
 

Ranger Rainier

Inactive
Folks, when you go to war the first thing you do is destroy the enemies ammo and food supplies. Thus, FEMA puts out a handy dandy pamphlet telling the masses what to stock up on. Why it would be immoral if they didn't.

YOUR COUNTRY IS GOING TO WAR IN A VERY BIG WAY!!!!!!!
 

tosca

Inactive
Last year, I invited the Red Cross to visit our

"prep committee"...here in a 120 plus building in the city. I was amazed at how outspoken they were about stocking up, emergency medical aid, and how to stay safe. They did not miss much and some of it was right out there. Take this as a dot. I did and my group did as well. Better to be safe than sorry, when one day you wake up to no food whatsoever to prepare for the family! Love, Mari Susan
 

LilRose8

Veteran Member
Hansa,

Hurricanes are not a problem here in Memphis -- we're 400 miles north of the Gulf.


Earthquakes are, of course, since we are 30 miles south of the southern most point on the New Madrid Fault Line.


But local FEMA has been prepping folks in these parts for a possible eruption on the New Madrid as long as I have lived in Memphis (almost 20 years now), and they have always offered the standard FEMA advice to have 3 days of non-perishable foods available (changed to 2 weeks of food about a year or two ago).


NEVER has local FEMA -- or any other branch of FEMA that I know of -- advised folks to stockpile food for the intermediate or long haul.


Also note that the phamphlet uses the word "stockpile," not "hoard."


I think their choice of words is significant, too, since .gov has always chosen to use the word "hoard"...

I think FEMA learned a HARD lesson after Katrina and are just now showing the changes in their policies. plus, with the unstable condition of the political climate, the ter*rists and the natural climate, everyone needs to be more wary. I would guesss they are doing this low key to avoid panic but sheesh...it must not be helping too many people. I mean, how many sheeple actually read those things?
:confused:
 

TIK

Inactive
Hey Barry--can I make a suggestion. Is there anyway you can contact someone at the office that produced it and try to track down the motivation behind this. This smacks of "inside info" because it's too SPECIFIC. There's "prepping for disaster", and I've seen what the .gov puts out about that. But this is seems different. FOOD SHORTAGE??? Hmmmm...anyway, can you track that down? Also, on the pamphlet itself, is there anyway to look and see if you can find a copyright year or printing date to see if this is recent?
 

blackguard

Veteran Member
Thanks for the info

Does seem a big jump to go from the Public Service Announcements of stocking up for 3 - 14 days to now stocking up for months.
 

Hansa44

Justine Case
My honest opinion on this pamphlet is.....someone in the local branch of FEMA actually is awake to the possibilities of disaster like many on TB2K are.
They actually read the papers or hear the news or remember millions heading north after Katrina, or wonder about a possible earthquake, or they actually see prices skyrocketing because of oil, war with Iran, etc., etc, etc,.

They may even be a member here on TB. Somehow they managed to get the local office to heed the possibilities and put out this pamplet.

Portland, OR was very up to date in trying to get people to prepare for a possible disaster. Unfortunately, our lady mayor had to retire and now there is never any mention of preps.

I doubt if the pamphlet is an actual dot anymore than the prepping we talk about here and possible dots.
 

Woolly

Inactive
The focus on the 'FOOD' shortage issue may be misleading us as to what is really bothering the local FEMA people. Sure, a shortage of truck transport etc. kind of thing could lead to a food shortage. But, such would not likely have any impact upon the supply of water.

Their focus on a possible water shortage, I think, gives away what is really bothering local FEMA. Now, a shortage of water would likely arise from a major earthquake on the New Madrid fault. So too would a nuke attack in that city.

A major earthquake on the New Madrid Fault would likely take down the highway and railroad bridges, and the oil and natural gas pipelines, across the Mississippi River. Such a disruption to national transport would surely lead to food shortages, and shortages of many other products including fuel.

The water supply infrastructure of all of the cities bordering the Mississippi River is at risk. If they are as decrepit as the water system in our city (Jackson, MS) it won't take much of an earthquake to destroy the system. Thus, the warnings about prepping for a water shortage should be taken seriously.

IMO,

Woolly
 

Barry Natchitoches

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I agree with you Barry. This is definitely different than any other run of the mill preparedness plan and faaaaar more intensive than what we are given here in hurricane country!!

Could you tell us how these were given out which could be a telling factor in how soon we'll be calling on those suggestions? If they were sent by mail to all country residents then I'd say it's a true heads up. (But then that leads to the question as to why only in your county?) However, if these pamphlets were distributed just to be put on various gov./doctor office desks/waiting areas it may not be as imminent as we think but just "out there" so that when the real ones come it won't be as unfamiliar.

At any rate, at least they're trying.


At this point, I don't think they have been distributed beyond their own group of reservists.


A close friend of mine is an EMA reservist. Reservists are unpaid civilian volunteers who train year round so that if/when a disaster hits in this area, they can immediately be mobilized to take over leadership or other skilled positions in EMA's emergency response efforts. Because of the important and even politically/security sensitive nature of what they might be called to do, they go through an extensive background investigation and a series of interviews before they are ever allowed to put on the uniform or attend an EMA Reservist meeting.


During normal (non-disaster) times, the EMA Reservists go to different schools, civic groups, preparedness fairs, business meetings, etc. distributing emergency response literature and teaching folks how to prepare for or respond to disasters. They also teach the CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) classes in this neck of the woods.


Like I said, my friend is a part of this group, and they were informed of a new pamphlet that has just been developed, that they would be distributing in future events that they work or speak at. They did not even have enough copies for every person in the group, but my friend made sure he got a copy when he saw the significant change in food storage recommendations.


I only got a copy after midnight last night, when he faxed it to me before he went to bed. (He knows I am a late owl.)


The pamphlet is "hot off the press."


And as to why only my county -- well, I don't know.


Maybe we're ahead of the curve on this one. Maybe they just hired a Mormon down there at the EMA. Maybe this is happening in other communities, but it just hasn't hit the streets yet. Remember, the only reason I have a copy of this is because I have an inside contact at the local EMA office.
 
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idelphic

Once again with the shadows
Hansa,

Hurricanes are not a problem here in Memphis -- we're 400 miles north of the Gulf.


Earthquakes are, of course, since we are 30 miles south of the southern most point on the New Madrid Fault Line.
<...>

We are just north of you. While I agree that we don't have to worry about Hurricanes - we actually do. Many a system have come in far enough to affect the weather patterns to generate severe storms and Tornadoes. So, while we don't get the storm surges and 200+mph winds,.. we can and do get f1-5 Tornadoes and flooding rains.
 

Barry Natchitoches

Has No Life - Lives on TB
If they published a pamphlet entitled "Syphillis: How to not contract it", would you be this alarmed? Advising people on how to prepare for emergencies is part of their job. Its no big deal.

Who said anything about being "alarmed?"


An alert is not the same thing as being alarmed.


FEMA and the Red Cross have both taken the stance that short term food storage is all that prudent families need to do in order to protect themselves from whatever may come to pass.


They always recommended 3 days food and water storage until somewhere around a year or two ago.


Then a year or two ago, they changed that recommendation to 2 weeks worth of food and water.


Now, at least one local FEMA office is very gently about to suggest to their local community that they might want to stockpile food for a more lengthy period of time.


Given the significance of food storage in a family's preparedness, and given the fact that Joe Sixpack doesn't do anything until .gov or Oprah tell him/her to -- I consider this change significant.


Not alarming. Just very significant.
 
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Barry Natchitoches

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I was not going to post because it sounds like I am bashing Memphis, but I am really not. I just understand that area. My family on my dad's side has been on the north end of Shelby/south end of Tipton counties 200+ yrs.



Ginger,

It would be "Memphis bashing" if anything you said here was either untrue, or else was a gross distortion of the truth.

But unfortunately, everything you have said here is true and is a pretty objective analysis of the situation in this city and county.

It is worth noting, however, that the EMA director in this county was recently changed. It used to be Claude Talford, who many felt was a puppet of King Willie.

Now it is a guy named Bob Nations.

I do not have a clue who Bob Nations is, or what his background is, or anything else. But I don't think he is a puppet of King Willie. He doesn't act like the type, or look like the type.

Maybe the change in EMA leadership has something to do with it. But that is a guess.


I'm just glad to see that they are finally -- if ever so low key -- beginning to suggest longer range food storage for people in this community.

Whoever is responsible for this change, I applaud them.
 
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