URGENT: Stock Market Crash and (Dirty Bomb?) Terrorism Alert

See - http://www.spiritoftruth.org/terroralert4.htm

The Nasdaq Composite decisively broke below 2000 and the Dow Jones Composite Index reversed from the 3000 mark two weeks ago. Today the most critical level, the 10,000 mark on the DJIA, was breached. Again, reversals from key psychological barriers in major U.S. stock indices have immediately preceded major terrorist attacks in recent history. On September 6th of 2001, the DJIA broke below 10,000, THEN 9/11 occurred. On March 9-10 of this year, the Nasdaq Composite broke below 2,000, THEN the Spain train bombings occurred. On April 20th the Nasdaq broke below 2,000 again and THEN there was simultaneous car bombings in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia and Basra, Iraq.

Also note that the current sell-off in stocks started with the lunar eclipse on May 4th last week.

Stock market analyst Steve Puetz has discovered that almost all of the largest stock market crashes in history have been "triggered" by lunar eclipses. Consider the following excerpt from Peter Eliades online "Current Observations":

We seldom use much newsletter space for the ideas of others, but the theories we are about to present fit together so well, we believe you will find them as interesting as we do. The two researchers are Steve Puetz (pronounced "pits") and Chris Carolan. Chris just won the 1998 Charles H. Dow Award for his original research and the complete article is offered on his website at http://www.calendarresearch.com . The research by Puetz was first noted in our October 10, 1995 newsletter. Here is what we wrote:

"Puetz attempted to discover if eclipses and market crashes were somehow connected. Without discussing our own opinion on the potential connection between astronomical configurations and market timing, let's simply relate to you the basic findings discussed by Puetz. He emphasized that he is not contending that full moons close to solar eclipses cause market crashes. But he does conclude that a full moon in general and a lunar full moon close to solar eclipses, in particular, seem to be the triggering device that allows for the rapid transformation of investor psychology from manic greed to paranoia. He asks what the odds are that eight of the greatest market crashes in history would accidentally fall within a time period of six days before to three days after a full moon that occurred within six weeks of a solar eclipse? His answer is that for all eight crashes to accidentally fall within the required intervals would be .23 raised to the eighth power less than one chance in 127,000."

". . .Puetz) used eight previous crashes in various markets from the Holland Tulip Mania in 1637 through the Tokyo crash in 1990. He noted that market crashes tend to be lumped near the full moons that are also lunar eclipses. In fact, he states, the greatest number of crashes start after the first full moon after a solar eclipse when that full moon is also a lunar eclipse . . Once the panic starts, Puetz notes, it generally lasts from two to four weeks. The tendency has been for the markets to peak a few days ahead of the full moon, move flat to slightly lower --waiting for the full moon to pass. Then on the day of the full moon or slightly after, the brunt of the crash hits the marketplace."


Finally, as I have pointed out numerous times, al Qaeda seems to be timing significant terrorist strikes around the time of eclipses, particularly in recent history (the Basra/Riyadh bombings coincided with a solar eclipse on 4/19).

See - http://www.spiritoftruth.org/astrology.htm

Hmmmm......now I don't know whether to buy stock or buy more preps. J.R. Ewing always said "When everyone is selling, buy. When everyone is buying, sell." Who am to believe? I don't know about the folks in this little piece, but I do know that J.R. was VERY wise.

Ah, umm, but Padre, "Everyone" is NOT selling yet.

You will know when "everyone" is selling.

they will close the Exchange when "everyone" is selling....


C

Also note that the current sell-off in stocks started with the lunar eclipse on May 4th last week.

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Got to this line and stopped reading.

ROckchucker, while his stats are not unassailable (I don't like the breadth of his range in terms of the calendar, nor do I like the fact that he "selected" only 8 of the Great Crashes/Great Bubbles) he DOES have some interesting stats.

I'd have to ask someone to check back to 9-07 thru 9-14 2001 to see if that time frame fits his hypothesis. My MIL is the astrologer in the family, but she is involved with enough other "stuff" in the Meatworld I won't bother her with the question.

I know we have some astrology cognoscenti on the Board, so I'll ask THEM:

Did the 9-11 attack fall within the time frame defined in the above article....


C

Chuck, I thought that a possible significance of the 9/11 timing was that it coincided with a NEW moon/star combo (the Muslim symbol).

Hmmm, read this:

http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/other_stories/documents/02048780.htm

Chuck, I thought that a possible significance of the 9/11 timing was that it coincided with a NEW moon/star combo (the Muslim symbol).

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Now your on to something. I will reread it.

Kind of reminds me of that scene from Jeremiah Johnson when he guides the Colorado Milita to that stuck wagon train in the mountains...

Johnson halts the rescue party at the entrance to a Indian burial plot.

They ask him why he stoped:

Johnson "Can't go through here..... Indian burial grounds... this is Big Medicin... they guard this place with spirits....."

Official "You don't believe that!!!???!"

Johnson "Doesn't matter; they Do."

RockChucker, don't you get a batboy?

For the failed "warning" from your biker buddy? Nothing of substance happened last weekend so whats the scoop?

I have to say that the batboy test is definitely going to be applied to Mr. Spirit of Truth here since we now have the Dow below 10,000 which he has been telling us will bring the end of the world for a while now. I read his site when he first started posting here and for the most part, he hasn't gotten much right since 1994 when he first started, but who knows, even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and then.................

I live in a glass house and throw stone. Sue me.

(crow taste like chicken, by the way).

Found on IH: So the CHINESE were buying all the gold?


05-10-2004, 03:58 AM #8
Bman
Its all becoming clearer


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Re: THE CRASH OF '04....

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I may be wrong about this but didn't some airline stock drop or sell right before 9/11. Maybe this is not strange???

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I think gold is dropping because China is acting to tighten up their money considerably... Apparently they fear a bubble situation like Japan had in the late 80s.. a situation they are STILL trying to crawl out from under, 15 years later....


Alot of the gold buying was coming from China.. so thats why the sharp drop

Speaking of sharp drops, Japan's Nikkei is tanking bigtime tonight.. down about 320 points..

Right now, there is no where to hit.. gold and silver stink, stocks stink, bonds stink and cash earns you next to nothing..

Oh, and if mortage rates keep rising don't be surprised to see the value of your home falling too.. particularly if you bought it in the past 3 or 4 years.

LOL.. that Greenspan sure is a wonder, ain't he??



Bman

RC, No problem, keep em coming

It's what keeps us all coming back

Or at least a substantial number of us, not sure why Flint comes back other than to stir the pot..............

Chuck, I have studied the subject at hand for more years than I care to reveal. I really do know a lot about it.

I have not found that specific events can be "predicted" with astrology. Most of what is available in the popular press is nonsense, and not to be believed.

However, astrolgy does "work" in a sense. But not the way some claim. Rather it works in that it indicates the "quality" of a time or period. So, when I noticed the exact Pluto conjunction to the US ascendant, I realized that there would in all probability be an event that would be interpreted with all the Plutonian symbolism. The position of Saturn added more information about the quality of that time.

And, the terrorist attack on us did fit the quality of the planets and signs they were located in very well. In an astrological sense, I was not surprised by the attack, but could not have predicted exactly the means/method/location using astrology. It could have been any other number of the above, but it would have been of a similar "quality" in terms of it's effect on us as a nation. According to the celestial "clock, it was our "time" to have an event of that nature.

I have not studied the eclipse cycles as they relate to the financial markets and or terrorist actions. I do not speculate in the markets, and while many do use astrology for this purpose, it isn't my area of research.

I am more intrigued by the implications of astrology as it is described by the Bible, and it has strengthened my faith in God. We are not to believe for one moment that we can foretell the future, but to be in awe of His handiwork in giving us a celestial clock so that we might know the "signs of the times", the seasons, the time to sow, and the time to reap.

People who truly understand how astrology works, and use it as we are intended to are much better prepared to deal with life, live within the rhythyms of nature, and accept the "better or worse" that comes along to all men and nations, not to forget marriages!....

Here is one proper use of astrolgy, just a few little examples for you all to consider... the weekend of May 22nd and May 23rd is a good time to plant clover, parsley, lettuce, or any leafy plant.

I put my tomatoes and peppers out "early" this spring, at the proper sign/time for them, because of the full moon occuring early in May. If it had been later in the month, I would have waited.

There are dates and times ahead that I could anticipate the potential for problems regarding terrorism/market drops and post these to the board, but I hesitate. It gets too close to the "fortune-telling" that the Bible forbids. Besides, even the most talented astrologer can only "see thru a glass darkly", and any accuracy to a specific prediction would just be a lucky guess.

I hope I have explained clearly enough that astrology can tell you "when", but not "what".

I suppose if the phase of the moon can make a woman bleed, there must be something to it.

Thanks for the explanation Jaquej...


C


BTW Rockchucker :sb: :sb: SPANK.....don't work that way and you know it...

don't work that way and you know it

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All flippid comments aside, why does a womans cycle match our 30 day calander (moon phase)? Why not once a year? Why not all the time?

I need a better answer than 'That's how God made us".... unless that IS the answer... then it's one of those mysteries of life.

It is a good question, rockchucker, and I think you have a handle on the answer.

We tend to forget that we are in and of nature. Every part of us, every organ system is part of the whole, and resonates with the whole. We have just forgotten that.

There is a "time" for every purpose under heaven. The lunar cycle does matter, and affects all things.

Someday, this will be rediscovered, I hope.

For those of you who might be interested in "mundane astrology" which is the study of the charts of nations and world events, here is a site to check out.

I am intrigued by his arguement against the Sibley chart for the US, but not sure if he is right. The fact that astrologers argue about which is the "proper" US chart ought to give you a head's up on how complicated the subject really is, and why not to pay any attention to astrologers who want to charge you good money to tell your future.

http://www.homestead.com/politicalastrology/index.html

Don't mind him, Spirit Of Truth is a troll spamming his own website and his non-sense theories.

That's all he does.

NoCarrier said:

Don't mind him, Spirit Of Truth is a troll spamming his own website and his non-sense theories.

That's all he does.

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Lock your doors, close your mind, can't be right so let's bury it under the rug!

Regardless of whether or not astrology (positions of planets) influences world events, there are those driving world events who DO allow themselves to be influenced by astrology (think Nancy Reagan, think militant Islamist cleric types looking for external validation of their opinions), who DO time events to key in with astrological significators, therefore regardless of how non-sensical such theories may seem, the ostrich response only prevents you from seeing further possibilities.

You're the one trolling when the only substance you can add to SoT's thread is what you've upchucked (not rockchucked) above.

wrs
I frequented the alt.prophecies.nostradamus usenet board in the mid to late 90's and the Spirit of Truth stuff was screaming "we are all gonna die" then to. Your post hit the nail on the head - same shit, different decade. As for Rock Chuckers biker buddy - well bat boy is on vacation the next two weeks - he is a busy boy you know. SO RC was spared, this time. But BatBoy is getting ready for an extra special appearance for the comet crazies near the end of summer when nothing has happened.

But BatBoy is getting ready for an extra special appearance for the comet crazies near the end of summer when nothing has happened.

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Wrong.
It will be an Asteroid
It will be Fall
It will be Toutatis

As a longtime stock market player, 150 point days are not crashes. The markets have been fluctuating between 9900-10500 for months now. The clean out will not be until there is a 250-300 point downturn in a day.

But, it is interesting that the more conservative type investments are taking hits. It makes no sense. Supposedly the economy is getting better!?!? The high cost of gas is going to have a big impact on summer travel and rising prices of goods at all levels.

CygnusXI said:

Wrong.
It will be an Asteroid
It will be Fall
It will be Toutatis

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I will be shedding tears when I bat boy your Toutatis ass on your birthday

It would be interesting to find out if there are correlations between the full moon/eclipse theory and other major human caused events such as disasters caused by human error, suicides, illness outbreaks, the starting dates of wars, car accidents, muders, etc. If it indeed causes general widespread whackiness, then perhaps we should all be sent to our rooms for that time period

http://www.astrologynow.com/Astrology.406.htm

Women and the Moon - The Monthly Cycle

The rhythm and phases of the moon resonate with women's menstrual cycles, as well as their lifelong development. There are two major feminine cycles, symbolically and physically related to the moon, in the physiology of women's bodies. One cycle is the monthly menstrual cycle, marked by ovulation and menstruation. This cycle reflects the alternation of the light and dark phases of the moon. The second is a series of lifelong developmental cycles, which is discussed in a companion article, Women and the Moon - The Lifelong Cycle.
The average menstrual cycle is 29 1/2 days, which is exactly the length of the moon's cycle. The words for moon, month, and menses are all derived from the root "mens." A woman's monthly cycle is marked by the polarity of ovulation and menstruation. The light phase of the moon corresponds to ovulation and the dark or new moon corresponds to menstruation.

The various hormones which rise and fall in a woman's bloodstream each month fluctuate according to the same rhythm of the increase and decrease in the moon's cycle. During the waxing half of the moon's cycle, when the moon's light is increasing, estrogen rises in the bloodstream. During the waning half, when light is decreasing, progesterone predominates.

The rhythms of the moon also affect a woman sexually, emotionally, and physically. With the approach of the full moon, the estrogen level begins to peak. As a result, a woman's sex drive increases, her body needs less sleep, and night vision becomes sharper. These changes are related to the instinctual nocturnal mating urge. A woman's sexual receptivity peaks, and her body and emotions are prepared for conception and fertilization. In addition, the moon's maximum illumination energizes a woman, and she is able to fulfill her wishes and accomplish what she began during the new moon phase.

Several days after the full moon, the estrogen level drops rapidly and progesterone begins to take over. The combined effects of estrogen and progesterone produce even greater growth of the blood-rich uterine lining, which provides nourishment for a fertilized egg. At this phase in the cycle, a woman wants to settle in and experience stability.

Continuing to move toward the dark moon, if conception has occurred, the egg implants itself into the uterine lining and pregnancy is initiated. Otherwise, the levels of both progesterone and estrogen abruptly decline, causing the uterine lining to shrink and decompose. Corresponding to this, the woman may feel an emotional letdown. The classic premenstrual symptoms of depression, anxiety, and irritability often occur at this time.

The dark phase of the moon is associated with the lowest levels of estrogen and progesterone. The body sheds the excess uterine lining, resulting in menstruation. What was built up is now broken down and released. During this phase, a woman turns inward, emotionally and physically. She has less interest in outside matters and craves sleep. Yet, her psychic abilities are at their peak, and menstruation is a time for her to focus on her own development and to spiritually renew herself.

Unfortunately, as patriarchy began to take over, a schism was created in the perception of the dual aspect of a woman's sexual and emotional cycle. The patriarchal mentality equates light and increase with good, and dark and decrease with bad. As such, the receptive ovulatory woman came to symbolize the desirable qualities of women, while the assertive, even fiery, menstruating woman came to symbolize their objectionable and threatening qualities. Men became afraid of the psychic and spiritual power of the menstruating woman and thus maligned them as hysterical, angry, and irrational.

Patriarchal society sought to deprive women of their sexual, psychic, and spiritual power during these dark moon times. Mythical beliefs contended that sickness and disaster stemmed from even a chance encounter with a menstruating woman. As such, menstruating women were ostracized from society and limited in their contact with the outside world. Further, a host of taboos, based on mythical beliefs, were instituted to protect men from menstruating women.

This patriarchal conditioning has put pressure on women to hide and even to deny the central aspects of her sexuality and emotionality. In response, women need to embrace their body's resonance with the cycles of the moon and reclaim their menstrual power. A woman's "dark moon times" contain the opportunity to use the gifts of menstruation--body wisdom, healing, regeneration, meditation, dreams, prophecy, and sacred sexuality--to transform her psychic energy into creative inspiration.


Well now..... ya don't say!

Well some of you may be right and some of you may be wrong. But in December there was a lot of warnings on the board and I heard later on a reputable rakio program that attacks were foiled in that same period. Once again their are a lot of warnings on the internet, not just here. So I went to the grocery store and stocked up. I feel foolish when I do it but better safe than sorry.

Last night on NIghtline there was a conggressman who was speaking very candidly about the war and he is trying to get the draft reinstated. I thought it was important becaseu NIghtline is a very mainstream program. That is probably a big DOT.

And here in New Jersey we had a strange storm last night. About an hour of sheet lightening. Flashes of light in the sky with low rumbling thunder and some of the flashes had a greeninh cast which is strange for NJ. TOday it is very hot , like a july day.
NOthing bad happened but it made me uneasy.

to those getting all excited about lunar eclipses, the market, etc.

First, here is a link to someone who HAS done serious research into the proper use of astrology and market cycles. I place more weight on his words than the more simplistic approach of lunar eclipses and the dow dropping below a certain number.

Life just isn't that simple!, and properly understood and used, astrology is just as complex and hard to understand as the rest of life is.

http://www.mmacycles.com/correlat.htm

Now, pkid said this in a post above:

"Regardless of whether or not astrology (positions of planets) influences world events, there are those driving world events who DO allow themselves to be influenced by astrology..."

I need to explain something very clearly here. This is a common misunderstanding of how astrology "works", and is why the Bible is correct in why people should avoid the improper uses of it!!!!

Astrology, the positions of planets, etc. DO NOT INFLUENCE world events. Does your watch make you hungry when it indicates noon? The planets' positions/aspects/etc are just a very complicated clock, indicating the "quality" of a time.

World events will reflect that quality, but no more than knowing that it is noon will predict exactly what we are having for lunch, will we know the exact nature of the events indicated by the planets. We can get a feel for whether it will be "feast or famine", may have a clue as to whether we will get steak/lobster/foiegras or beans/rice/roots.

If you read all of Ecclesiastes, you can understand this very well. Particularly famous as a summary is 3, vs 1-10, but pay close attention to vs 11:

"All that he does is apt for its time, but though he has permitted man to consider time in its wholeness, man cannot comprehend the work of God from beginning to end." (This is the translation from the Jerusalem Bible)

Please read the rest of Ecclesiastes. It is a very short book in the Bible, and in my opinion, explains why it is foolish to attempt to predict with any accuracy what exactly will happen under the "influence" of any particular planetary aspect or position. But, we can tell the "times" with an understanding of these.

<b>And here in New Jersey we had a strange storm last night. About an hour of sheet lightening. Flashes of light in the sky with low rumbling thunder and some of the flashes had a greeninh cast which is strange for NJ. </b>

That was pretty freaky looking wasn't it? I took the whole house off the grid and went to batteries when that started. Lasted about 3 hours where I was.

-TECH32-

It may have lasted that long I went to bed. But my dog was really freaked out. she was trembling and panting for about an hour. And the thunder wasn´t that loud, it was more the light flashing.

I have seen the sky turn greenish in washingto dc or in Mexico city but I don´t remember ever seeing green flashes in NJ. It reminded me of that silly movie The Core.

Now, those of you who have read my little soap box lecture on the proper understanding of how "astrology" works may want to be watchful of the following dates just to see it in action.

Beginning about the 20th of May, and continuing thru June 11th or so will be a difficult time for both the US and G W Bush. Some event or action occuring around the 27th may cause tension and confusion. The quality of this entire period be "restrictive, disappointing, limiting, irritating, bewildering and disappointing.

I do not know exactly what, if anything will happen. All I know is that when Saturn has "conjuncted" the US Sun before in history, it has not been all lollipops and roses. Mars is also in Cancer, and several other planets are involved in difficult aspects, Uranus and Neptune among them. This Saturn transit is exact for the third time on June 10th/11th, and there are plenty of other aspects that indicate a time for surprise and shock.

There is no reason to assume it is time to run for the hills, but we will not be feeling real cheerful, either. It is a time when a terrorist attack could occur, but it could just as easily be something less dramatic.

Now, what I will be doing is watching what actually does happen, when, and taking notes. It will be just another lesson in life here on planet earth.

Here is a link to an article written by another astrologer relating to the difficult transits coming along in June. Please keep in mind that this is just what he "thinks" about it, and he has no special wisdom that any of the rest of us do not have.

One problem I have with many of the writing astrologers is that they are not able to keep their individual political biases from interfering with the way they interpret or try to predict events. So keep that in mind.

A liberal astrologer will tend to see tough transits as bad for the guys they do not like, and will look for the best interpretation for guys they like, just like the media idiots. And, a conservative astrologer might do the same, but there aren't very many of those. I probably am one of the few.

http://www.stariq.com/Main/Articles/P0005366.HTM