EDUC Where were the burn-Koran protestors, when people here were burning American flags?

Little-Acorn

Inactive
The protests against some guy's planned burning of a few Koran books are truly astonishing. They seem to feel that we should refrain from doing it, on grounds that some Muslims, or a lot of Muslims, may be offended.

Where were these people when various groups were burning American flags, both outside and inside this country? I can assure you, that offended a lot of people. Where was their concern over people's sensibilities then?

The difference, of course, is (a) This time the people being offended, oppose many American values, and (b) the offended ones are threatening violence this time, with some credibility since fanatic Muslim militants have often committed violent acts, up to and including murder, after people offended them by criticizing their religion or ways of life.

After Pearl Harbor (when fewer Americans were killed than on Sept. 11 2001), were there any protests over the Doolittle raid some months later, when American planes carried out a token bombing of Tokyo? The very purpose of that mission was to "offend" the fanatic militants in Japan who attacked us, since actual damage was relatively minor. No doubt that mission helped Japan immensely in their recruiting and propaganda efforts against us. But this did not enter into our calculations. The Doolittle raid was just a taste of things to come, as the Japanese found out in following years. The only way we could NOT help their recruiting, was by never responding to Pearl Harbor at all, and cancelling our part of World War II.

And that was not an option. Our goal was to defeat the enemy who had attacked us, not to cower into an illusory "peace". We knew then, as we seem to have forgotten now, that "peace" isn't an absence of conflict. It's an absence of threat.

And we are under threat now - a credible threat, again, given the past behavior of the people who attacked us. The idea that we should be afraid of the possibility of "offending" them, is between ludicrous and astonishing. The only way we can avoid offending them, is to cower away and never respond to their continued attacks and threats.

And even such cowering, would not remove the threats they bring us. It would not produce peace.

But now we actually have AMERICANS begging for us not to offend them. Don't draw pictures of Mohammed. Don't burn any books our attackers consider holy. Be careful, you might make them angry, and provoke them into being mean to us again!

Is anyone else as sickened by this "response" as I am?

Burn the damned books. Smear the Ground Zero Mosque with pork fat. These things are far milder a response than the Doolittle raid was. We should have sent a dozen planes (with conventional bombs) over Mecca before the rubble in New York City had cooled. Followed by a dozen more over every major Muslim city, dropping nothing but leaflets - each showing a graphic picture of what that city would look like after a nuclear strike.

Have Americans forgotten what war is? Our enemies have not. And THEY declared war on US, accompanied by actions to suit.

We got off to a pretty good start after 9/11, in Afghanistan and Iraq. But then we curled into a ball and tried to treat the enemy "nicely", in hopes they would come to their senses and become nice people.

How's that working out for you? You "Americans" who are trembling in fear today, over the prospect of what the fanatic militant Muslims will do to you if we "offend" them?

You are disgusting. You have the right to be disgusting. Anything you say should be used against you in a court of law... but probably won't be, fortunately for you. Because the people you are protesting, are far more tolerant of you, than you are of them.

But get out of the way, while the adults solve the problems brought upon us by fanatical enemies... foreign and domestic.

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P.S.
Q: Where were the Koran-burning protestors when people here were burning American flags?

A: They were the ones lighting the matches.
 

Jake Grey

Veteran Member
You ask, "Where were the Koran-burning protestors when people here were burning American flags?"

They were at the art gallery, drinking a glass of wine as they laughed at the thought of American taxpayers paying for "Piss Christ."

Or they were spitting on American servicemen returning from Vietnam.

Or they were supporting anything and everything they could find that was anti-Christian or anti-American.


As a Christian, I don't think burning the Koran is going to help spread the Gospel to the Muslim world. But as an American, I'm beginning to come around to the idea that some should burn just because WE CAN. If freedom and liberty are about all things except those which would offend Muslims, then we've lost. If it's going to endanger our troops overseas, then our troops need to gear up and fight the enemy or come on home.

I've got the solution to the problem. If your country exports terrorism, we don't export grain to your country. End of problem. Let them eat sand.
 

rmomaha

The Wise Man Prepares
You ask, "Where were the Koran-burning protestors when people here were burning American flags?"

They were at the art gallery, drinking a glass of wine as they laughed at the thought of American taxpayers paying for "Piss Christ."

Or they were spitting on American servicemen returning from Vietnam.

Or they were supporting anything and everything they could find that was anti-Christian or anti-American.


As a Christian, I don't think burning the Koran is going to help spread the Gospel to the Muslim world. But as an American, I'm beginning to come around to the idea that some should burn just because WE CAN. If freedom and liberty are about all things except those which would offend Muslims, then we've lost. If it's going to endanger our troops overseas, then our troops need to gear up and fight the enemy or come on home.

I've got the solution to the problem. If your country exports terrorism, we don't export grain to your country. End of problem. Let them eat sand.

Thats just it. Too many people get their patriotism mixed up with their Christianity and then problems happen. We don't burn books, flags or otherwise openly provoke anyone, because God calls us to a higher calling.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Where were the burn-Koran protestors, when people here were burning American flags?

Slack-jawed and masturbating in front of their TV sets while watching the flames rise....
 

FREEBIRD

Has No Life - Lives on TB
As a Christian, I don't think burning the Koran is going to help spread the Gospel to the Muslim world..."

Which is why I think it's a poor choice. I don't support flag-burning, either.
 

Ender

Inactive
Thats just it. Too many people get their patriotism mixed up with their Christianity and then problems happen. We don't burn books, flags or otherwise openly provoke anyone, because God calls us to a higher calling.

Well said.
 

SarahLynn

Veteran Member
You ask, "Where were the Koran-burning protestors when people here were burning American flags?"

They were at the art gallery, drinking a glass of wine as they laughed at the thought of American taxpayers paying for "Piss Christ."

Or they were spitting on American servicemen returning from Vietnam.

Or they were supporting anything and everything they could find that was anti-Christian or anti-American.


As a Christian, I don't think burning the Koran is going to help spread the Gospel to the Muslim world. But as an American, I'm beginning to come around to the idea that some should burn just because WE CAN. If freedom and liberty are about all things except those which would offend Muslims, then we've lost. If it's going to endanger our troops overseas, then our troops need to gear up and fight the enemy or come on home.

I've got the solution to the problem. If your country exports terrorism, we don't export grain to your country. End of problem. Let them eat sand.

Good post. As a Christian I myself would not go out of my way to burn anyone's religious books. BUT I think the freedom to do that is just as necessary as those who claim the freedom to burn the flag is necessary. Liberals have shown a disgusting hypocrisy in this.

One by one, the PTB are going to increase the list of things we must not do or say because it may offend someone, anyone, somewhere.

My greatest fear is, now that Interpol has issued their alert, Christians everywhere will be blamed if some terror attack does occur. MANY have spoken out against the Koran burning, from Charles Colson to Bridget Gabriel.
But the Left and the Liberals won't let that stop a good Christian-hate fest.
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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I get really sick of the thinly vieled threats of violence coming from so many of the so called "moderate" Islamic apologetics all shoved in front of cameras the last few days on the MSM.

Why don't we see any "moderate" Islamics clearly and loudly denouncing the notion of -any- violence because some goofy pastor in Florida is trying to make a point?

During the last/current Yugoslavian War the Muslims burned down over a hundred Christian Churches. Then the US and UN had to get involved because the Orthodox Serbians went apeshit and retaliated against the Muslims in and around Kosovo. Toss in the Croations and you get a real mess we are still trying to untangle over there and at the root of it all is Islam again.

We can't placate the extremists. They will always be unhappy and will always be making threats.
 

jer48n10

Inactive
I was tempted to buy one yesterday so I could have something to burn but the store I went to didn't have one. Of course burning one in private wouldn't have the same effect so I'd need a classy T-shirt to go along with it. Something like "This Infidel burned a Koran on 9-11 so Jihad this!"

I know it will make the radicals in Afghanistan shoot at our troops, like they are not already. Maybe if General would shut his yap and just cap a couple thousand radicals in Afghanistan when they raise up then those remaining radicals will settle down and go back to sodomizing their dancing boys.

To me the Koran is not holy. It is a political manifesto that uses religion to keep people in bondage. Actually we as a nation should burn some every day and continue to do so until our top 100 wanted Islamic radicals surrender and all the Muslim nations recognize Israel's right to exist. Of course that would put Imam Obama in a situation. Does he offend the religion of his youth or does he defend the Constitution of the United States that he holds in such high regards?

They only fear offending the Muslims because they fear what the Muslims will do about it. To them I say, :dvl1:

jer48n10
 

Wisp-O-Smoke

Contributing Member
I say BURN THEM ALL!! These F**ks don't want you as a friend they want you as a convert and if you won't convert their so called holy book says kill you the infidel. I just don't understand this diversity sh*t, it means division not unity. Libtards want division not unity. We don't need to be diverse we need to stand together as American Christians or we will surely hang.

Wisp
 

conundrum

Inactive
All of the above.
Everyone is right.

You know what came to my mind?

Beslan...Beslan, remember what those monsters did?
That was to Christians.

But be careful you don't lump those of us who are trying to follow the red letters in our book, with the latte Huff crowd. It is harder than you know to do what Jesus said.


Your post reminded me of the story I posted about the little flags in South Carolina that were put up for 9-11, I think and then a bank rushed to take them down. But that was pro-active. We need more pro-active instead of reactive.
 

fishuntr

Inactive
I read an editorial this morning by Thomas Sowell. He was writing about the Muslim Mosque destined to be built near the World Trade Center Ground Zero. He likened it to a 15 story middle finger to America. Americans are supposed to be more tolerant and more sensitive to Muslims. Why are the Muslims not more sensitive to American feelings?
Does anybody really believe that by not burning a few copies of the Koran is going to change anything? Will it really save any lives of American soldiers?
 

Shacknasty Shagrat

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I say BURN THEM ALL!! These F**ks don't want you as a friend they want you as a convert

Wisp

Exactly. It is permissible for a muslim to become an ally with a Jew or Christian in a war against an heretic. The Saudis can help the US and Israel pound hell out of Saddam and Iran, but once the fight is over, every thing goes back to square one, no friend, no ally. SS
 

Mongo

Veteran Member
Maybe this will become a national event - 9-11 Burn a Koran day.

Where does one buy them?
 

DelRayMan

Inactive
Where were the burn-Koran protestors, when people here were burning American flags?

they were being tolerant, they will be that way until the muslim's are in their home and stoning their daughter's. at some point they will wake up and go "oh-shit" it's too late.
bring on the rocks, my bullits are faster.
 

FREEBIRD

Has No Life - Lives on TB
"But be careful you don't lump those of us who are trying to follow the red letters in our book, with the latte Huff crowd. It is harder than you know to do what Jesus said."

Precisely.
 
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