GUNS/RLTD King, NC Declares a State of Emer BANS CCW and GUN PURCHASES

Alcohol Restrictions, Curfew Lifted In King
Police Chief: King Remains Under State Of Emergency Until Monday
POSTED: 5:18 pm EST February 6, 2010
UPDATED: 4:07 pm EST February 7, 2010
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Comments (224)KING, N.C. -- Authorities lifted a curfew and alcohol restrictions in King on Sunday, but said a state of emergency declaration remained in effect until Monday.

Authorities said the state of emergency declaration would continue until Monday 9 a.m., barring any unforeseen circumstances or severe changes.

Effective Sunday afternoon, alcohol restrictions and a curfew were lifted. All other remaining restrictions would continue until Monday, said Paula May, King police chief.

Other restrictions include a ban on the sale or purchase of any type of firearm, ammunition, explosive or any possession of such items off a person's own premises.

Also on Sunday, the emergency shelter established by the American red Cross at West Stokes High School was closed.

"We appreciate the support and cooperation of everyone with our efforts to keep the citizens of King safe," May said.

The state of emergency was declared Friday due to severe weather.

http://www.wxii12.com/news/22487153/detail.html

So let me get this straight. A Chief of police can by HERself close the lawful commerce of the purchase of ammunition and firearms and right to carry now in these United States. And HER excuse is a snow storm. REALLY! I hope they fry HER butt in King, NC.

TidesofTruth said:

any possession of such items off a person's own premises.

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Yeah but what if you have a permit to carry?

Look at this video


http://www.myfox8.com/wghp-king-state-of-emergency-100206,0,332212.story

These citizens are willing to give up their rights for presumed "safety" for THIS!

My goodness what sheeple!

Our country is in a world of hurt with such ignorant and uneducated citizenery.

KKC said:

Yeah but what if you have a permit to carry?

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". . . or any possession of such items off a person's own premises."

I'm sorry but emergencies shouldn't dictate a suspension of rights.

People will try to use emergencies to further their agenda and they need to be held accountable.

WTF does snow have to do with legal carry??

IceWave said:

WTF does snow have to do with legal carry??

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Exactly!

Ummm... because it's the law, maybe?

Like it or not... when NC first adopted its CCH (carry concealed handgun) law, a lot of us referred to it as a 'carry concealed holster' law, because there were so many places/circumstances where you couldn't legally carry a handgun, even with a permit.

dd
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It is also a misdemeanor under North Carolina law for a person to transport or
possess, off his or her own premises, a dangerous weapon in an area during a declared
state of emergency, or in the vicinity of a riot. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-288.7 A concealed
handgun permit does not allow a permittee to carry a weapon in these areas. N.C. Gen.
Stat. § 14-415.11(c) -- http://www.jus.state.nc.us/NCJA/ncfirearmslaws.pdf

Didn’t they pull the same sort of thing after Katrina? Weren’t they going house to house and confiscating people’s guns?

Dozdoats said:

Ummm... because it's the law, maybe?

Like it or not... when NC first adopted its CCH (carry concealed handgun) law, a lot of us referred to it as a 'carry concealed holster' law, because there were so many places/circumstances where you couldn't legally carry a handgun, even with a permit.

dd
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It is also a misdemeanor under North Carolina law for a person to transport or
possess, off his or her own premises, a dangerous weapon in an area during a declared
state of emergency, or in the vicinity of a riot. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-288.7 A concealed
handgun permit does not allow a permittee to carry a weapon in these areas. N.C. Gen.
Stat. § 14-415.11(c) -- http://www.jus.state.nc.us/NCJA/ncfirearmslaws.pdf

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Then you people are screwed if the wind blows too hard you can't buy a bullet. You can't even hunt with a long gun.

My goodness this ought to wake some people who love their freedom in North Carolina and get some real change and throw the bums who would write such trash out of office. Your ban continues today. You have no snow on the streets in King. You have 200 people without power in the ENTIRE COUNTY. NO BULLETS FOR YOU!

You do realize that emergencies can be invented, right?

NC is fast-tracking toward becoming a full-on liberal sh*thole.

Same phenomenon as in Florida, what with all the liberal Yankee influx.

Seems that Chief Paula May, King thinks she has her own little fiefdom to rule over by decree. TT

First, I wouldn't need to buy guns or ammo in an "emergency." I'm already prepped in that regard. Second, IF I left the house and chaose to carry, I would. Unless I had to use it, TPTB would never know that I was carrying. And if I DID have to use it, I'd stand proudly before the bar, and if convicted, would be happy to appeal all the way to the Supreme Court.


When guns are outlawed, I'll be an outlaw...

NO THANKS

That's the mentality, I believe, of the majority of Amerikaners.

The government's job is to take care of them.
Cradle to Grave.

I pray for the collapse of Amerika.

And everything that socialist monstrosity represents.

May AMERICA arise from the putrid ashes.

Dennis Olson said:

First, I wouldn't need to buy guns or ammo in an "emergency." I'm already prepped in that regard. Second, IF I left the house and chaose to carry, I would. Unless I had to use it, TPTB would never know that I was carrying. And if I DID have to use it, I'd stand proudly before the bar, and if convicted, would be happy to appeal all the way to the Supreme Court.


When guns are outlawed, I'll be an outlaw...

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But that's just the point, Dennis.

They shouldn't be able to deprive you legally of your right to self-defense simply because there was a snow storm, or any other reason for that matter.

King is a mere wide place in the road in Stokes County south of Pilot Mountain. Remember The Andy Griffith Show? Deputy Barney and his one bullet in his shirt pocket? Well, there you have it. That's the part of the state this fictional teevee show represented.

And it's a STATE LAW- the legislature did it. Before NC passed its poor excuse for a CCH law, there were no legal provisions in the state for carrying concealed. Far as I'm concerned, the only folks who can point fingers at NC and sneer are in no-permit-needed Vermont and Alaska. All you other glass house dwellers, hold onto your stones.

dd

So, open carry.

Why carry concealed?

"shall not be infringed"

Keep and bear arms.

As long as you have no intent to do anything unlawful, you should be completely within your rights.

FWIW, there is an open carry group here in California, affirming this right for all of us in a state where the simple purchase of ammunition is becoming more and more difficult.

Mike

Think about how many gang bangers carry ALL the time.
If ya feel ya need it carry it... if it breaks the law well... how many times a day does everyone break simple traffic laws... breaking this law could save your life.

Dozdoats said:

King is a mere wide place in the road in Stokes County south of Pilot Mountain. Remember The Andy Griffith Show? Deputy Barney and his one bullet in his shirt pocket? Well, there you have it. That's the part of the state this fictional teevee show represented.

And it's a STATE LAW- the legislature did it. Before NC passed its poor excuse for a CCH law, there were no legal provisions in the state for carrying concealed. Far as I'm concerned, the only folks who can point fingers at NC and sneer are in no-permit-needed Vermont and Alaska. All you other glass house dwellers, hold onto your stones.

dd

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At what price? They seemed to slip all kinds of constitutionally criminal language so the 2nd ammendment advocates would shut up and made it illegal to Hunt with a long gun if they decide to declare a state of emergency.

I much rather have to have a permit for CCW than to lose the ability to feed my family in the event of a prolonged crises manufactured or otherwise.

So, open carry.

Why carry concealed?

Because NC has this quaint little legal concept called "going armed to the terror of the public." Search the phrase on your favorite search engine. It can be trotted out and used against anyone carrying openly, if the LEOs involved so desire.

Q: I don't want to get a Concealed Handgun Permit; I just want to carry a gun openly in a holster. Is this legal?

A: In North Carolina there is no State law specifically prohibiting the open carry of firearms. Under the theory that if it isn't specifically prohibited it's not illegal, open carry is possible. There are some glaring exceptions to this. They are:

Private property owners and businesses can post "no guns."
Firearms are strictly prohibited on state-owned property, except rest areas and state lands where hunting is permitted.
Local governments can (and do) enact prohibitions against "display of firearms" in cities and/or specific areas within cities or counties, which means they can't be visible. Under this statute there is absolutely no requirement for the city or county to post notice of the display ban.
Local governments can (and do) enact firearms bans on local government property and in parks and recreational areas.
Any federally-owned property or federally-regulated property like banks and Post Offices is of course a prohibited area.

Much of the Outer Banks is "National Seashore," and firearms are prohibited in those areas.

So in theory that leaves everywhere else in the state - except for one more thing. There is a common-law offense in NC called "going armed to the terror of the people." Basically what this means is that if someone sees you carrying a firearm and calls the police to report "person with a gun," you can be charged with this offense. It's not often used in rural areas, but has been used in populated areas. If you are an out-of-state visitor who is not here lawfully hunting or engaged in some overt firearms-related event such as a competition, it will be hard to talk your way out of it.

So is open carry legal in NC? In theory, yes. In practice, maybe. It seems to us like a very good way to get arrested. -- http://www.ncrpa.org/ccwfaq.htm

dd

FREEBIRD said:

You do realize that emergencies can be invented

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Bingo... this is something every American NEEDS to understand.

dd, sounds very familiar to California actually.

The deal is, as long as you have the stones and the proper understanding that carrying open requires you carry your firearm UNLOADED and that you cannot do so within 1000 yards of a school, or on private property where doing so not allowed and warnings are posted, etc.

I think the laws in NC and this mandate obviously completely ILLEGAL and against the Second Ammendment but someone has to challange them all the way to the Supreme Court if necessary and that may mean that that someone has to be arrested to do so.

Here in Cali, that kind of situation has already taken place. Law enforcement is aware of the situation though and you can view more at

http://www.opencarry.org/

and NC specifically...

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum41/

Mike

Thanks, Mike, but I've had my fill of Federal cases for this lifetime (one First Amendment, one Second Amendment) and I'll pass on being the legal guinea pig for open carry in NC.

dd

Most Americans want to do the legal thing.

I don't want to be on ANY list!

CCW, puts YOU on a LIST!

WHO is gonna come check me out in the middle of a blizzard?

lw

King, NC Declares a State of Emer BANS CCW and GUN PURCHASES

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This is exactly why there is a Second Amendment.
Abolish the King NC government.

I think many of you would be surprised what provisions are allowed during a state of emergency in your city/state. I know that here in Nashville, there are similar laws restricting the sale of certain items, for the duration of a declared emergency, (i.e., firearms, ammunition, beer/alcohol, gasoline). Although I don't remember reading anything about concealed carry permit holders not being allowed to take their guns off their own property! That's a crock of shit...

Zulu Cowboy

The people should throw HER out of office, state law or not, and elect someone who runs on a platform that will REFUSE to obey this state law because it is unconstitutional.

They will win, she will lose.

The people then need to write their state representatives and demand to know where they stand on this state "law". Those in favor should be replaced with those who are opposed.

Repeat until law is repealed.

What was the Federal law passed after NO to keep this from happening?

In Alabama we have a state pre exemption law. No political subdivision lower than the state may make a law concerning the carrying , sale or possession of a handgun.

It was a central government in DC that told the states to make these laws basically granting themselves the right they never had and really still don't, but most have a hard time believing they cannot do this.

Doz has given some serious info, as a North Carolinean, he is spot on. I would also agree with another poster, North Carolina is fast becoming the Cali of the east coast. In NC, usually, the County Sherriff is OK, but the chief of police is usually a lackey of the Libtards. There are exceptions of course.

Open carry depends on where you live in the state, and remember, NC is now a transplant state, I have had many conversations with police officers from up north who freak out at how many AR's, ak's, and sks's they see at the range, in cars, in gun shops, in the neighborhoods. Whereas guns don't bother me, and actually lead to conversations with like minded people, some transplants just haven't had gun ownership as part of thier culture. The flip side of course, is that alot of hunters/shooters are moving here, and we have the headquarters of two firearm heavy hitters, Remington and Paraordinance.

I would not chance an altercation with open carry, the idea about carrying a handgun is that is the last line of defense, to defend your self or your family. It should be concealed, I don't want anyone to know if I may be armed. Spend the $100, get the permit!

I just haven't been able to talk my wife into moving to Montana yet!!

Infoscout said:

I just haven't been able to talk my wife into moving to Montana yet!!

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All you need to do is move one state down to Tennessee!

Brutus said:

NC is fast-tracking toward becoming a full-on liberal sh*thole.

Same phenomenon as in Florida, what with all the liberal Yankee influx.

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Well why do you let them do that?

Seems to me the natives would GREATLY outnumber the influx of new people? Is this not the case?

Kent said:

All you need to do is move one state down to Tennessee!

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Kent wasn't TN one of the first states to consider microstamping of cartridge cases and other restrictions on sales of ammo?

Residents Fumed Over Weekend Alcohol, Firearm Ban
King State Of Emergency Lifted Monday​

POSTED: 5:18 pm EST February 6, 2010
UPDATED: 6:21 pm EST February 8, 2010

KING, N.C. -- Residents in King were fumed over the weekend after a state of emergency declaration restricted the sale of alcohol and the carrying of firearms in vehicles.

King Police Chief Paula May said she’s received hundreds of threats related to the restrictions, which banned driving from 12 a.m. Sunday to 5 a.m.

The state of emergency for King was declared by members of the City Council after Stokes County authorities also declared a state of emergency.

Under North Carolina law, May said, when a state of emergency is put into place that includes a ban on driving, the sale of alcohol and carrying of firearms in vehicles is also banned.

“I think there’s been some misinterpretation that I personally have declared martial law and taken away people’s right to bear arms and that’s erroneous,” May told WXII reporter Jermont Terry. “By law, statue 14-288.7 automatically went into effect. And that law which goes into effect when there’s a state of emergency prohibits the transportation, purchase sale and possession of firearms other than on one's own premises.”

The news of the ban created a firestorm of criticism.

“This is absolutely the craziest thing I have ever heard. So far fetched that I am speechless!” one post on WXII12.com read.

“This has to be the most ridiculous event of the century!!!!! This is the ultimate denial of liberties for the most asinine reason...bad weather!!!” another poster wrote.

May said officers did pull people over who were in violation of the curfew driving ban, but no tickets were issued.

May said officers did pull people over who were in violation of the curfew driving ban, but no tickets were issued.

“We did find some people on the streets,” May said. “We didn’t take any enforcement actions. We spoke to the people driving and helped them to get to where they needed to be.”

May wouldn’t give details on the types of threats other than to say they had been phoned, faxed and e-mailed.

“We have to take them all serious and we’ll investigate to the best of our ability and determine the source of those threats,” she said.

The state of emergency was lifted Monday morning.

http://www.wxii12.com/news/22487153/detail.html

Good points in this thread.

I am one of those other kinds of transplants... the 2nd amendment supporting kind.

I took the CCW class but elected not to get the permit. I had similar sentiments to LoneWolf about lists and whatnot. The local chief of police taught the course, which was full of people from the neighborhood. FULL. He commented on the unusually high number of attendees. When I saw all those folks, my neighbors, in there, I felt a whole lot more comfortable living here.

To be honest things are pretty tranquil here compared to other places I've lived. The fact that everyone is armed may have something to do with it. I believe it does--no unarmed victims nearby.

I don't like the way some parts of this state are ultra liberal, and attempting to turn it into a northern nanny state. Not at all.

Most of the western part of the state is deeply conservative, except for the number 3 gay city in the US (as voted by OUT magazine) and it's surrounding environs in Buncombe county.

It's a blue enclave surrounded by lots of red, so to speak. I live in a red area thank God.

I think rural areas are more sympathetic to the idea of self-reliance.

As far as this BS decree by the town mentioned in the article... It's only illegal if you get caught, and I'd rather protect my family and myself than be a helpless victim.

Just because something is a law doesn't mean it is moral or correct. There are plenty of historic examples of laws written by governments that were judged immoral and incorrect in history. This action by King NC would be one of them, IMHO.

Denial Of Liberties Because Of Bad Weather

Chief of police getting thousands of threats, complaints, and calls from Constitutional loving American's
warty


Residents Fumed Over Weekend Alcohol, Firearm Ban
King State Of Emergency Lifted Monday

KING, N.C. -- Residents in King were fumed over the weekend after a state of emergency declaration restricted the sale of alcohol and the carrying of firearms in vehicles.

King Police Chief Paula May said she’s received hundreds of threats related to the restrictions, which banned driving from 12 a.m. Sunday to 5 a.m.

The state of emergency for King was declared by members of the City Council after Stokes County authorities also declared a state of emergency.

Under North Carolina law, May said, when a state of emergency is put into place that includes a ban on driving, the sale of alcohol and carrying of firearms in vehicles is also banned.

“I think there’s been some misinterpretation that I personally have declared martial law and taken away people’s right to bear arms and that’s erroneous,” May told WXII reporter Jermont Terry. “By law, statue 14-288.7 automatically went into effect. And that law which goes into effect when there’s a state of emergency prohibits the transportation, purchase sale and possession of firearms other than on one's own premises.”

The news of the ban created a firestorm of criticism.

“This is absolutely the craziest thing I have ever heard. So far fetched that I am speechless!” one post on WXII12.com read.

“This has to be the most ridiculous event of the century!!!!! This is the ultimate denial of liberties for the most asinine reason...bad weather!!!” another poster wrote.

May said officers did pull people over who were in violation of the curfew driving ban, but no tickets were issued.

King Police Chief Paula May More

“We did find some people on the streets,” May said. “We didn’t take any enforcement actions. We spoke to the people driving and helped them to get to where they needed to be.”

May wouldn’t give details on the types of threats other than to say they had been phoned, faxed and e-mailed.

“We have to take them all serious and we’ll investigate to the best of our ability and determine the source of those threats,” she said.

The state of emergency was lifted Monday morning.
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I only hope out elected officials up here in massachusetts don't hear about this.

Foothiller said:

Most of the western part of the state is deeply conservative, except for the number 3 gay city in the US (as voted by OUT magazine) and it's surrounding environs in Buncombe county.

It's a blue enclave surrounded by lots of red, so to speak. I live in a red area thank God.

I think rural areas are more sympathetic to the idea of self-reliance.

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Good morning Foothiller, that's the pattern in the US. States all over the US are just like that. A red power knot, dominating the larger blue area. Look at the county by county election results for every presidential election over the past 30 yrs. (e.g. PA, a very blue starte with Philly and Pitt dominating everyone else or WA where the state is blue, but the 3 red counties around Seattle dominate the rest of the state.) The division in the us is between urban & rural... between those in need of a nanny (proto-socialists) and real Americans who believe in self reliance.

Btw Foothiller, enjoy that next dose of snow we're expecting... our forcast is for another 1-3 inches. This is the snowiest winter we've experienced since moving here 5 yrs ago.

FYI, y-all King NC is one of the northernmost suburbs of Winston-Salem, in the same county as WSNC