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GUNS/RLTD Virginia Sheriff: ‘I Will Deputize Thousands of Citizens To Protect Their Gun Rights’
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    Virginia Sheriff: ‘I Will Deputize Thousands of Citizens To Protect Their Gun Rights’

    Culpepper County, VA — It looks like what Virginia gun owners needed was a wake up call. Or more accurately, a wake up slap in the face.

    Ever since Bloomberg bought himself a blue Virginia and stacked it with eager anti-gun legislators, we’ve told you how the state is on fire with pro-gun rights sentiment.

    County after county has joined the Second Amendment Sanctuary list, totaling 42 counties in less than six weeks.

    Add one more sheriff to the list of Second Amendment heroes.

    Sheriff Scott Jenkins of Culpepper County, VA made a post on his official county Facebook page pledging to support the Second Amendment. In the post made on December 4th, Jenkins went so far as to say that he has a strategy if gun control comes knocking:

    “I plan to properly screen and deputize thousands of our law-abiding citizens to protect their constitutional right to own firearms.”

    That’s right.

    Jenkins wants to deputize thousands of law-abiding citizens who would otherwise be denied their right to defend themselves and their families by tyrannical gun control laws that might pass in the 2020 legislative session.

    And Scott Jenkins isn’t acting alone or flying by the seat of his pants.

    Just this week, the seven members of the County Legislators voted unanimously to declare Culpepper County a Second Amendment Constitutional County.

    This is what Virginia counties are calling their “Second Amendment Sanctuary counties.”

    Not Backing Down One Inch

    Sheriff Jenkins whole statement is a rock-solid kick in the teeth for anti-gun legislators and police everywhere. We’re including it in it’s entirety below.

    “Every Sheriff and Commonwealth Attorney in Virginia will see the consequences if our General Assembly passes further unnecessary gun restrictions. “Red Flag” laws without due process will create enormous conflict as well.

    America has more guns than citizens and murder has long been illegal. At best, the proposed gun restrictions will disarm or handicap our law-abiding in their defense and possibly cause a criminal to choose another tool for evil.

    I’d like to thank our Board of Supervisors for their resolution of support of our citizen’s natural right to self defense as protected by our Constitutions. My office will always encourage and support our citizens in firearms training, concealed carry permits, and the ability to defend themselves and their families.

    I remain very optimistic that our General Assembly will not pass the proposed bills. Obviously, if passed, there are many of us willing to challenge these laws through the courts. In addition, if necessary, I plan to properly screen and deputize thousands of our law-abiding citizens to protect their constitutional right to own firearms.”

    -Sheriff Scott Jenkins

    “A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves…and include all men capable of bearing arms.” (1788) -Richard Henry Lee

    An Idea Whose Time…Never Left

    Of course, this idea is not new in the Second Amendment fight.

    A lower magistrate interceding between his citizens and a terrible law is as old as English Common Law.

    This idea, called “interposition”—where the lower magistrate ‘interposes’ between the citizenry and the higher magistrate—is the foundation of Second Amendment Sanctuary law.

    Nearly twenty years ago, another Sheriff thought this way, and stood for the rights of his citizens.

    Sioux County, Iowa Sheriff Jim Schweisow also promised to deputize hundreds or thousands of citizens if necessary.

    He saw it as his duty to repel bad laws coming down from either the State of Iowa or the Federal Government.

    Sheriff Schweisow passed away a year ago this month after serving as Sioux County Sheriff for more than 32 years. After retirement, Schweisow was a founding member of the board of Iowa Gun Owners.

    Iowa Gun Owners is regarded as one of the most effective, no-compromise state gun groups in the country.

    It’s good to see that the ideas that made America a free nation, a great nation, haven’t died, but continue to spread when they’re needed the most.

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    The people are feed up with the leftist socialist liberal democraps and are taking a stand which will produce results that the leftist socialist liberal democraps will not enjoy....

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    Ouuuu...this is going to get interesting real quick. There's no way TPTB in Richmond can let that one pass without actively replying...

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    While a novel idea, and I'm glad to see it. It will.come.to naught, just as soon as Richmond pulls funds from these counties they will cave and sanctuary no more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trouble View Post
    While a novel idea, and I'm glad to see it. It will.come.to naught, just as soon as Richmond pulls funds from these counties they will cave and sanctuary no more.
    I'm not sure that will work.

    People are pissed and local politicians are doing what their constituents want.
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    Probably some interesting conversations among the National Guard command.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trouble View Post
    While a novel idea, and I'm glad to see it. It will.come.to naught, just as soon as Richmond pulls funds from these counties they will cave and sanctuary no more.
    an interesting concept trouble . . . seems like a fun way to really get the party going. I would think that stupidity of that level coming from "on high" would be like throwing gasoline on a fire. talk about REALLY pissing off the "serfs" . . . all that and a well though of impeachment process at the same time? FUN FUN FUN!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trouble View Post
    While a novel idea, and I'm glad to see it. It will.come.to naught, just as soon as Richmond pulls funds from these counties they will cave and sanctuary no more.
    The counties can go a lot longer than Richmond. Besides Richmond doesn't have personnel resolve like the citizens of the counties. Once deputized they can legally own firearms and execute arrests. It won't be pretty but then what war ever was. I like this sheriff.
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    I pray that it works, regardless troopers work for the state. They are well funded and equipped. Sobriety checkpoints you say, gun check points are coming. The Nazi state has plenty of precedents, confiscation will happen here. Regardless of any anger from the citizens. The first few raids will be dramatic and televised. They will make a few examples, many will cave after that. I have been berated here because of my view on this. There is no fighting this, legislatively we are done. We lost, plain and simple. Now a the time to decide what you are willing to do and what you are going to do. I'm leaving this state, I need a buffer and some time. This will be at all of our doorsteps within the next few years. I though I had more time, don't be like me. Decide what you're goin to do right now, leave out the bravado and honestly look at what YOU stand to lose when this is where you are. I haven't much to lose, but I'm not a fool that thinks that I can stand up to what a coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trouble View Post
    While a novel idea, and I'm glad to see it. It will.come.to naught, just as soon as Richmond pulls funds from these counties they will cave and sanctuary no more.
    The spigot goes from the counties to the state house, then is doled back out. If counties refuse to allow taxation of all kinds to be transferred to the state, holding the funds in escrow, then the fireworks will really begin. That's how they can starve the beast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trouble View Post
    While a novel idea, and I'm glad to see it. It will.come.to naught, just as soon as Richmond pulls funds from these counties they will cave and sanctuary no more.

    Simple that county stops giving funding to Richmond.

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    Yay! Way to go, Sorebacks!

    Or Old Dominion, if you prefer...lead the way again!

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    checkpoints???

    they will become RALLY POINTS for the opposition
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    Quote Originally Posted by EMICT View Post
    The spigot goes from the counties to the state house, then is doled back out. If counties refuse to allow taxation of all kinds to be transferred to the state, holding the funds in escrow, then the fireworks will really begin. That's how they can starve the beast.
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    and a "starved beast" won't be making payroll to their shock troops for very long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trouble View Post
    I pray that it works, regardless troopers work for the state. They are well funded and equipped. Sobriety checkpoints you say, gun check points are coming. The Nazi state has plenty of precedents, confiscation will happen here. Regardless of any anger from the citizens. The first few raids will be dramatic and televised. They will make a few examples, many will cave after that. I have been berated here because of my view on this. There is no fighting this, legislatively we are done. We lost, plain and simple. Now a the time to decide what you are willing to do and what you are going to do. I'm leaving this state, I need a buffer and some time. This will be at all of our doorsteps within the next few years. I though I had more time, don't be like me. Decide what you're goin to do right now, leave out the bravado and honestly look at what YOU stand to lose when this is where you are. I haven't much to lose, but I'm not a fool that thinks that I can stand up to what a coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EMICT View Post
    The spigot goes from the counties to the state house, then is doled back out. If counties refuse to allow taxation of all kinds to be transferred to the state, holding the funds in escrow, then the fireworks will really begin. That's how they can starve the beast.
    Property taxes are collected by the county and could easily be held back. Sales taxes are collected by the state first and doled back to the locals. Might be interesting to get businesses to pay them locally. The local share could possibly be paid and held in escrow, the state share, don’t know how it would work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Millwright View Post
    Probably some interesting conversations among the National Guard command.
    . . . so I have heard . . .


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    Quote Originally Posted by SageRock View Post
    Sniff.... Sniff.... Smells like troll... Attempting to spread defeatist attitudes... Yup, definitely smells like a mildewed combination of troll and wet blanket... A wee bit of mouse shite there too...
    Douchebag much, your opinion in means exactly shit to me. Another keyboard badass. Dipshits like yourself make me want to not even bother replying to a damn thing here these days. You fools want to fight, rock on. I'll watch from.elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raggedyman View Post
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    and a "starved beast" won't be making payroll to their shock troops for very long.
    Sad but historically-supported prediction: if nothing else, those troops will get paid in whatever they can loot, whatever they can grab they can rape, plus they get to burn houses belonging to/torture/kill whitemofos/gringos/bitter-clinger fossil antihomo Bible-thumper whites. For many would-be such troops, that will be enough, until such time as those run short and/or those troops get killed a bit too often...
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    The numbers say a lot more than the jack boots do. There are more firearms in the U.S. than people to shoot them. If even 1% of the people say not only 'no' but hell no to the gun laws the grabbers are effectively emasculated. One percent of our population would be more than the entire military available to be deployed in the U.S. as well as police together. And the military and police would be unable to function due to desertions and people quitting the force en-masse. I refer back to one rogue cop/naval reservist in California several years ago with minimum tactical training snapped and started shooting other police. That one man tied up several counties in California for two weeks with the police afraid to go out alone and were even shooting up vehicles that looked like his....they were scared to death. And that is one man! We would have at worst case about 4 million people many of whom are combat veterans that are going to decide that this is the red line that isn't going to be crossed. The government weenies that think they can pull something like this off don't stand a chance in hell. That is the road to hot civil war.....if they are stupid enough to try it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raggedyman View Post
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    and a "starved beast" won't be making payroll to their shock troops for very long.
    Yes, if all payroll liabilities was to stay in the counties that they are generated in, the public would be amazed at the amounts collected.

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    regardless troopers work for the state

    Some of them have brothers, sisters and cousins too. Family reunions might get interesting. Some here have been predicting strife at the atomic level. (Familial, not periodic table)


    FTR, I personally don't fault Trouble for his outlook at this stage. I know my opinion means nothing.

    I had considered passports for ALL my core family unit. Then asked myself "where would we go?" Same question at the state level. Each person gets to decide when you allow the state to make you a felon. After that, everything changes.
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    Please do not take this too personally as it is more about the mind set you exhibit and not you (I do not know you).

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    I pray that it works, snip
    One could do more than pray, one could provide moral, financial and physical support as well as voting for those who are dedicated to protecting your rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trouble View Post
    snip Decide what you're goin to do right now, leave out the bravado and honestly look at what YOU stand to lose when this is where you are. snip
    Not much to lose, just one's country, one's freedom and ultimately one's life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trouble View Post
    snip I haven't much to lose, but I'm not a fool that thinks that I can stand up to what a coming.
    Seems to me there are thousands upon thousands of people in your state willing to fight but you choose not to help them.

    Please do not move to my state.

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    I echo mistaken1's thoughts 110% - please don't come to NC
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaSmith View Post
    Sad but historically-supported prediction: if nothing else, those troops will get paid in whatever they can loot, whatever they can grab they can rape, plus they get to burn houses belonging to/torture/kill whitemofos/gringos/bitter-clinger fossil antihomo Bible-thumper whites. For many would-be such troops, that will be enough, until such time as those run short and/or those troops get killed a bit too often...
    Any government that fielded such "troops" would instantly lose any and all remaining legitimacy, and the people targeted by such "troops" would see them as nothing but marauding thugs. The population so targeted would quickly see that they have nothing to lose, and they would respond in kind, including targeting the families of government agents, legislators, and their supporters, in addition to the thugs themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaSmith View Post
    Sad but historically-supported prediction: if nothing else, those troops will get paid in whatever they can loot, whatever they can grab they can rape, plus they get to burn houses belonging to/torture/kill whitemofos/gringos/bitter-clinger fossil antihomo Bible-thumper whites. For many would-be such troops, that will be enough, until such time as those run short and/or those troops get killed a bit too often...

    perhaps - but can you even begin to imagine the backlash from THAT?

    everything from kittens to grandmothers of those connected to such atrocities gutted from pubic bone to throat, crucified upside down and set ablaze at the front door.

    this country is NOT YET completely castrated and pussified
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    Don’t give Trouble such a hard time. A lot of factors go into making a decision like this. Oregon’s hard-left swing is one of the big reasons why I left there. Conservatives there are vastly out-numbered, and at my age, with my health problems, and having the care of my handicapped daughter, I figured there wasn’t going to be a whole lot I could do. So I looked for a state that was still fairly conservative, where my vote might make a small difference. Most of the states will go left eventually, but if we can slow some of them down, and keep a place for conservatives to go, it’s worth doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raggedyman View Post
    perhaps - but can you even begin to imagine the backlash from THAT?

    everything from kittens to grandmothers of those connected to such atrocities gutted from pubic bone to throat, crucified upside down and set ablaze at the front door.

    this country is NOT YET completely castrated and pussified
    Local governments are already robbing their citizens through "asset forfeiture"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freeholder View Post
    Don’t give Trouble such a hard time. A lot of factors go into making a decision like this. Oregon’s hard-left swing is one of the big reasons why I left there. Conservatives there are vastly out-numbered, and at my age, with my health problems, and having the care of my handicapped daughter, I figured there wasn’t going to be a whole lot I could do. So I looked for a state that was still fairly conservative, where my vote might make a small difference. Most of the states will go left eventually, but if we can slow some of them down, and keep a place for conservatives to go, it’s worth doing.

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    I can certainly see that point K - but at SOME POINT we'd better take a stand or we'll be pushed into the sea and drowned. one can only run so far. we find ourselves WHERE WE ARE simply becasue that stand wasn't taken long ago. its spelled "ac·qui·es·cence". time to stand or agree to live on your knees. as for most of us here we've had a good run -

    it becomes an issue of your progeny's welfare

    old dudes with bad attitudes due to broken social contracts, a solid faith and not so much left to loose are DANGEROUS FOES

    if some think the reality of that makes a keyboard warrior so be it. I'll not label anyone here in ANY context related to this topic - but I will state with no reservation what so ever - I would hope the members of my community here would choose to stand for what is right rather than leave.
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    trouble is one squeak out of the VA governor and all the VA sheriffs defying the state law can be suspended pending firing >>> and they find any number of judges that can over rule this deputizing idea - all sounds good until the wheel actually hits the road ....

    if there's state law fight - it can't be by legal ways on the streets
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    interesting and something I'd never considered. so does that make it LESS likely to be FUGLY or even more so? having grown up as FREE MEN are we to accept serfdom without a fight?
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    I am not familiar with how the VA Constitution is written about the office of Sheriff. In Colorado the office of Sheriff is one of the highest offices in the State. A Sheriff in Colorado can not be arrested or removed by even a federal officer much less a Governor. The Sheriff has to be arrested by the County Coroner and then the Feds or State authorities can take it from there. That is not the case for any other elected official in the State of Colorado. A Colorado Sheriff can deputize as many people as he or she see fit and in addition raise a posse to act on their behalf. In recent days legislation has been passed that in order to be an officer you must be POST certified. That is not in the Constitution of the State although it is in the best interest of the Sheriff and public. In an emergency that goes out the window. Like I said I don't know what power the office of Sheriff has in Virginia but in Colorado it is very strong by design. We currently have a lot of Sheriffs declaring their counties to be 2A sanctuary. It all comes down on January 1, 2020.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SageRock View Post
    Any government that fielded such "troops" would instantly lose any and all remaining legitimacy, and the people targeted by such "troops" would see them as nothing but marauding thugs. The population so targeted would quickly see that they have nothing to lose, and they would respond in kind, including targeting the families of government agents, legislators, and their supporters, in addition to the thugs themselves.
    . . . and supply lines of all types - commercial coms, food, medical, water, fuels, electric, gas - into the city areas - land and/or water - a broken covenant knows no conventional/expected limits.


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    Not sure how those proposed laws are written down there.
    But If law enforcement is exempt it would mean they would not apply to the all the newly minted volunteer sheriffs there going to have.

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    Culpepper seems to be the center of the anti gun battle here. And I'll lay money the sheriff does exactly what he says he'll do. Culpepper is a pretty rich county, and it's becoming the next big bedroom community for northern VA and DC too. If Gov. Blackface cuts off funding for Culpepper county, then the county just stops all payments to Richmond. It goes both ways, and Richmond will end up losing. Faquier county is just north of Culpepper, and I'll bet they go 2nd A sanctuary too. The state govt. has to consider the loss of revenue from these counties; as this movement goes north you start getting into more blue counties (but also VERY rich counties-northern VA counties are the main purse that the state of VA draws from. We're the state's pocketbook.)
    I do some work in that area, from what I'm hearing from locals is they're ready and will fight against gun confiscation. Even here in northern VA people are of the same mind-no gun grabs, no red flag laws. Richmond has a problem with this movement and it's not going to end well for them. The genie is out of the bottle, even pro gun support types won't support gun grabbing cops. Boils down to personal freedoms and even liberals don't like to see freedoms infringed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Millwright View Post
    I'm not sure that will work.

    People are pissed and local politicians are doing what their constituents want.
    Welll...I know Texas ain't 'Virginny', but... Texans did go against the State and federal governments a while back and stopped a 6-lane thoroughfare from Mexico to 'States beyond' from being built. If the Citizens stand firm, they can move the planet...
    You say "trigger-happy cowboy" as if it were a bad thing.

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    Ah, history.




    https://www.revolutionary-war-and-be...eper-flag.html

    Culpeper Flag

    The Culpeper Flag was carried by the Culpeper Minutemen from Culpeper County, Virginia. The men were part of Colonel Patrick Henry's 1st Virginia Regiment formed in 1775. The flag was a version of the Gadsden Flag created earlier in the year by South Carolina representative to Congress, Christopher Gadsden, but with Patrick Henry's famous words "Liberty or Death" added on the sides. This is one of the few American Revolution Flags that we can say with certainty was truly carried in the Revolutionary War.

    The Culpeper Flag is a white flag with an American rattlesnake in the middle over the words "Don't Tread on Me." The words "The Culpeper Minutemen" are in a banner over the top of the snake and Patrick Henry's famous words "Liberty or Death" are to the sides of the snake.
    The Culpeper Flag was first used in 1775 and is a variation of the Gadsden Flag created earlier in the year by Congressman Christopher Gadsden of South Carolina. Gadsden served on Congress' Marine Committee when it decided to outfit the USS Alfred and sister ships. Rhode Island captain Esek Hopkins was named the first commodore of the flotilla and the Alfred was his flagship.

    Gadsden Flag
    Christopher Gadsden felt it was very important for the commodore to have his own naval standard (flag) and he designed the Gadsden Flag and presented it to Hopkins at Philadelphia. For this reason it is sometimes also called the Hopkins Flag. The Gadsden Flag is a yellow flag with the American rattlesnake in the center above the words "Don't Tread on Me." Shortly after presenting the flag to Hopkins, Gadsden presented another Gadsden Flag to the State of South Carolina.

    The rattlesnake became a symbol for the colonies before the French and Indian War as the result of an article and a cartoon published by Benjamin Franklin. In 1751, Franklin published a strident article in his Pennsylvania Gazette condemning the British practice of sending convicts to the American colonies. In the article, he suggested that the Americans should "return the favor" by sending a bunch of rattlesnakes back to England to be dispensed in the gardens of the noblemen who sent the convicts.

    Join or Die Cartoon
    In 1754, Franklin published the first political cartoon in American history, again using the rattlesnake design. The cartoon was a snake cut into 8 pieces with the name of a different colony on each part. The New England colonies were all included together on one piece. The words "Join or Die," were beneath the snake.

    The cartoon was meant to encourage the colonies to support the Albany Plan, a plan he had submitted to a meeting of colonists at Albany, New York to discuss the colonies joint defense during the French and Indian War. Franklin's plan was the first proposal of a union between the colonies, 20 years before the Revolutionary War. He believed the colonies must work together to defeat the threat from the French and their allied Indian tribes or they would be defeated. Thus the snake represented American unity.

    Ten years later, the colonies were facing a joint threat from the Stamp Act, an act of Parliament passed to gain better control over the American economy and to help raise funds to pay off the gigantic debt incurred during the French and Indian War. The rattlesnake symbol was raised again as a symbol of American unity against the Stamp Act and was used as an American symbol of disagreement with political authority thereafter. Even today the Gadsden Flag often used by those expressing dissent with political policies.

    History of the Culpeper Flag
    The Culpeper Minutemen were formed by an act of the Third Virginia Convention in July, 1775 in response to the growing British threat. The group was made up of men from Orange, Fauquier and Culpeper counties. Patrick Henry was their senior colonel, to whom the lower ranked officers reported. Words from Henry's famous "Give me Liberty or give me death!" speech to the Virginia House of Burgesses were included on the Culpeper Flag. You can read more Patrick Henry quotes here.

    The Culpeper Minutemen were first called into duty when John Murray, Lord Dunmore, Royal Governor of Virginia, confiscated the colonists gunpowder at the Virginia capital, Williamsburg. The colonists were alarmed and Patrick Henry immediately sent word to Culpeper County. The Culpeper Minutemen met at the Culpeper Courthouse carrying their Culpeper Flag and marched for Williamsburg.

    According to sixteen-year old Philip Slaughter who fought with the Culpeper Minutemen wrote the following:

    "The whole regiment appeared according to orders in hunting shirts made of strong brown linen, dyed the color of the leaves of the trees, and on the breast was worked in large white letters the words, "Liberty or Death"! and all that could procure for love or money buck's tails, wore them in their hats. Each man had a leather belt around his shoulders, with a tomahawk and scalping knife."

    Due to the bucktails, tomahawks and scalping knives, Slaughter wrote that the people of the countryside and Williamsburg were scared of them:
    "Many people hearing that we were from the backwoods, near the Indians, and seeing our dress were as much afraid of us for a few days as if we had been Indians; but finding that we were orderly and attentive in guarding the city, they treated us with great respect. We took great pride in demeaning ourselves as patriots and gentlemen."

    Slaughter also reported the flag that the Culpeper Minutemen were carrying, the Culpeper Flag:
    "The flag had in the center a rattlesnake coiled in the act to strike. Below it were the words, 'Don't tread on me!' At the sides, 'Liberty or Death!' and at the top, 'The Culpeper Minute Men.'"

    This is the definitive proof that the Culpeper Flag was indeed carried by the Culpeper Minutemen. This makes the Culpeper Flag somewhat unique because many of the flags that many people consider to be "historic American flags" cannot definitively be tied directly to the American Revolution, such as the Betsy Ross Flag, the Cowpens Flag or the Bennington Flag.

    The Culpeper Minutemen carried their Culpeper Flag into battle at the Battle of Great Bridge on December 9, 1775, where Dunmore and his Tory supporters were crushed by the Virginia patriots. Later the battle shifted to Norfolk which the patriots had occupied. The city was virtually destroyed in a bombardment from Dunmore's Royal Navy ships in the river on New Year's Day, 1776. In spite of the loss of Norfolk, this series of events caused Dunmore to flee to New York and with him the last vestiges of British government forever from Virginia.
    The Culpeper Minutemen were dissolved in February, 1776, most of them then joined the Continental Army, many joining Colonel Daniel Morgan's 11th Virginia Continental Regiment. John Marshall, who would later become the 4th Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court, was one of the original Culpeper Minutemen.

    In 1860, the Culpeper Minutemen were reformed for the Civil War and were joined with the Confederacy's 13th Infantry, fighting in several battles. The Culpeper Minutemen were reactivated during the Spanish-American War, but were never called to duty and again during World War I, when they were joined with the 116th Infantry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlfaMan View Post
    Culpepper seems to be the center of the anti gun battle here. And I'll lay money the sheriff does exactly what he says he'll do. Culpepper is a pretty rich county, and it's becoming the next big bedroom community for northern VA and DC too. If Gov. Blackface cuts off funding for Culpepper county, then the county just stops all payments to Richmond. It goes both ways, and Richmond will end up losing. Faquier county is just north of Culpepper, and I'll bet they go 2nd A sanctuary too. The state govt. has to consider the loss of revenue from these counties; as this movement goes north you start getting into more blue counties (but also VERY rich counties-northern VA counties are the main purse that the state of VA draws from. We're the state's pocketbook.)
    I do some work in that area, from what I'm hearing from locals is they're ready and will fight against gun confiscation. Even here in northern VA people are of the same mind-no gun grabs, no red flag laws. Richmond has a problem with this movement and it's not going to end well for them. The genie is out of the bottle, even pro gun support types won't support gun grabbing cops. Boils down to personal freedoms and even liberals don't like to see freedoms infringed.
    Which all begs the question as to how the Dems got control and how solid their support actually is both in terms of actual real voters vs ghosts and where their "campaign donations" come from. We live in interesting times.....

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