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    “OK, Boomer”? Pay The Bills, Support A Family, Then We’ll Talk

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    A recent op-ed in the Princeton University student paper The Daily Princetonian takes issue with criticism of the trendy phrase “OK, boomer.”



    The expression is sort of a payback for derision of the Millennial Generation, but especially its successor, the centennials (those born in 1996 and after). It’s intended as a judgment of boomers’ alleged mishandling of everything from the economy to the climate.


    (In case you’re unaware, “Boomer” is short for “baby boomer,” those born in the post-World War II years of 1946 to 1964. They’re the progeny of the Greatest Generation, aka those who — literally — saved the free world just scant years prior.)

    I’ve been subjected to “OK, boomer” here and there even though I’m actually a member of Generation X (if barely). The remark doesn’t bother me in the least; indeed, it gives me a good chuckle since it typically comes from someone who’s never paid a bill, raised a family, or planned and made sacrifices for retirement.

    In my experience, centennials like op-ed author Anna McGee are the worst culprits.

    You want boomers and Gen Xers to take you seriously?

    You forget yours is the generation…

    Of grade inflation.
    Of minimal discipline, in and out of school.
    Of being carted around to sports and social functions by helicopter parents who cater to your every whim.
    In college, you run and cry to “bias response teams” when the slightest little thing offends you.
    Then you demand “safe spaces” and other measures to make you feel “welcome” and “wanted” … like therapy animals, etc.
    Not to mention, you want to sell us on the fact that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Greta Thunberg, and the Parkland, Florida activists are heroes of the modern age? That so-called “democratic socialism” is the answer to the country’s ills? People like AOC and Thunberg aren’t “discriminated against” because of their youth, as McGee claims; they’re ridiculed — because they’re stupid. There is a reason, after all, why age restrictions exist in society.

    Centennials have more available to them than any other generation before. Even the American “poor” are the envy of the world. Try enjoying it, centennials! Cheer up! The world isn’t going to end in a dozen years because of climate change, and Donald Trump isn’t going to throw you in an internment camp.

    Now get off my lawn.
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    Oh yeah, let's reinstate the draft so you have to look over your shoulder every day and wonder if you'll get the letter....."Greetings from the President of the United States..." Most guys I knew, took that letter like men. Could you? (I don't think so)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2...hen-well-talk/

    A recent op-ed in the Princeton University student paper The Daily Princetonian takes issue with criticism of the trendy phrase “OK, boomer.”



    The expression is sort of a payback for derision of the Millennial Generation, but especially its successor, the centennials (those born in 1996 and after). It’s intended as a judgment of boomers’ alleged mishandling of everything from the economy to the climate.


    (In case you’re unaware, “Boomer” is short for “baby boomer,” those born in the post-World War II years of 1946 to 1964. They’re the progeny of the Greatest Generation, aka those who — literally — saved the free world just scant years prior.)

    I’ve been subjected to “OK, boomer” here and there even though I’m actually a member of Generation X (if barely). The remark doesn’t bother me in the least; indeed, it gives me a good chuckle since it typically comes from someone who’s never paid a bill, raised a family, or planned and made sacrifices for retirement.

    In my experience, centennials like op-ed author Anna McGee are the worst culprits.

    You want boomers and Gen Xers to take you seriously?

    You forget yours is the generation…

    Of grade inflation.
    Of minimal discipline, in and out of school.
    Of being carted around to sports and social functions by helicopter parents who cater to your every whim.
    In college, you run and cry to “bias response teams” when the slightest little thing offends you.
    Then you demand “safe spaces” and other measures to make you feel “welcome” and “wanted” … like therapy animals, etc.
    Not to mention, you want to sell us on the fact that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Greta Thunberg, and the Parkland, Florida activists are heroes of the modern age? That so-called “democratic socialism” is the answer to the country’s ills? People like AOC and Thunberg aren’t “discriminated against” because of their youth, as McGee claims; they’re ridiculed — because they’re stupid. There is a reason, after all, why age restrictions exist in society.

    Centennials have more available to them than any other generation before. Even the American “poor” are the envy of the world. Try enjoying it, centennials! Cheer up! The world isn’t going to end in a dozen years because of climate change, and Donald Trump isn’t going to throw you in an internment camp.

    Now get off my lawn.
    That was outstanding. I could hear the shoe leather smacking the bottom of some footie pajamas...
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    The give me generation does not know how to work for a living for they had everything handed to them....

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    If the baby boom generation goes up to 1964, what's next? I was born in 1965...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Countrybumpkin View Post
    If the baby boom generation goes up to 1964, what's next? I was born in 1965...
    You, the author, (and me too ) are barely gen Xers. Although you are right on the line.
    (ETA, I think Strauss and Howe consider those born from 1960 to 1965 Xers.)

    Us old gen Xers, imo, had the best of both worlds. Old school schools. Post Vietnam childhoods. At least we were too young to remember most events.

    Some of us Xers have been blessed to never have drawn one penny of unemployment. I truly thank God for that blessing, personally.


    Without being able to describe why, it is my opinion that the boomers and the Xers, have lived in such times because of the HUGE national debt. We have lived through the funny money years.



    The millennials have and will blame boomers and Xers for their coming difficulties.

    IMHO, the ones that created all this national debt, will foster the discontent between the age groups. A scapegoat will be needed when this monopoly game ends.
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    racism is horrifying-but agism is just and fair?

    we see it rampant in certain professions where new graduates dismiss the experience and wisdom of the experienced, in favor of newly-minted technocrat snot-nosed young knowitall’s. Healthcare is currently being severely damaged by this internal strife, as one example. I am sure other sectors are, as well.

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    Howe, not Howell.

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    I know that the people born in the 50s to the early 70s had the best rock in roll musicians and songs. We are legendary in our music, and the classic rock music will live on forever.

    As to the crud being played and written since the 90s to today, will be forgotten tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    Howe, not Howell.
    Thank you. Trusting my memory instead of looking is no excuse. It sure is easy to verify information these days.
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    If younger generations were blaming Boomers for not reducing government spending and debt then I would say that they have a point. Because the burden of the debt is falling on them. But Millennials in particular seem enamored of free stuff for everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by West View Post
    I know that the people born in the 50s to the early 70s had the best rock in roll musicians and songs. We are legendary in our music, and the classic rock music will live on forever.

    As to the crud being played and written since the 90s to today, will be forgotten tomorrow.
    True, it is interesting to see that there are certain time frames in which culture produces it's best. Heard any great newly made classical music? Not really, that time has apparently passed. Rock? Nope, nothing that is of the quality that people will be listening to 2 centuries later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plain Jane View Post
    If younger generations were blaming Boomers for not reducing government spending and debt then I would say that they have a point. Because the burden of the debt is falling on them. But Millennials in particular seem enamored of free stuff for everyone!
    Sure. Everybody LOVES long, hot showers until they start paying the electric and water bills. The millennials will have zero sympathy when the 401 k balance of the boomers gets halved. (conjecture)

    Notice how commercials for reverse mortgages for boomers are prevalent on the TV? Even some of the boomers are mining their faux wealth from their real estate. All this goes back to Jekyll Island and Fed creation.

    Problems will never get blamed on their ultimate creator. I look for the "useless eater" moniker for us boomers and Xers anytime now.
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    I also remember what The Greatest Generation, The Silent Generation and the one before that (whose name I forget) said about us boomers when we were young.

    We were (as a group) lazy, good for nothing bums that would never get a job or learn to take baths; except for those guys that went to Nam there were heroes (and they were) but pretty much the rest of us were a waste of space.

    That was when we were about the same ages as Centennials and younger Millennials are now 15 years or so later Wallstreet was almost aspirational and "greed was good."

    Not everyone became a Yuppie, but the trends did reverse with jobs and income becoming much more important as most people settled down and had families, bought houses, vans, etc.

    I'm giving the younger generations time to grow up a bit too before writing them off..this is kind of a common human tendency.

    Usually, at this point, I post the comments of a 4,000-year-old Egyptian Priest and another quote from Classic Athens about how good-for-nothing the youth is today, but I think people have seen those enough times already to get the picture.
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    ok boomer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Countrybumpkin View Post
    If the baby boom generation goes up to 1964, what's next? I was born in 1965...
    My mother and I are both boomers.....lol I just realized that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plain Jane View Post
    If younger generations were blaming Boomers for not reducing government spending and debt then I would say that they have a point. Because the burden of the debt is falling on them. But Millennials in particular seem enamored of free stuff for everyone!
    They actually seem to have no concern with debt more than anything. To them it just seems like a utility. Something you pay each month and don't think about.

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    Their generation never had proper K-12 education but instead were indoctrinated to believe in marxist values by some really bad people that are paid with our tax dollars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 20Gauge View Post
    My mother and I are both boomers.....lol I just realized that.
    I don’t think both you and your mother can be boomers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raven View Post
    ok boomer
    ok maggot
    I’d use “ok, hipster scum” instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    I don’t think both you and your mother can be boomers.
    Why not? Someone born in 1944 could have a child in 1962, at the age of 18...

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    Back in that time, getting pregnant at age 17 would have been scandalous.

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    Haven’t heard it yet but my response.......whatever, asshole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    Back in that time, getting pregnant at age 17 would have been scandalous.
    And?....

    Hubby's twin sister got pregnant at 15, in 1968. They recently celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary. They had to have a judge sign off for her to marry at 15...

    And no, I'm not saying it was a good thing... but they turned it into a good thing.

    But back to the original point, a 20 year generation isn't at all unusual, so for any of the various "generations" that span 20 years, it's entirely possible for a young mother to have a child who also fits into the same cohort.

    Summerthyme

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    Ok Boomer is no doubt a highly rated sitcom in the making featuring an old white male winnebago man living acrimoniously next door to a gay couple who get into a HOA dispute over his confederate flag pole & paint their home rainbow striped. Like Sanford & Son. A cliche

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    1968 wasn’t 1944. That kind of thing just wasn’t “done” back then. (Of course, in reality it happened, it was pretty damn rare.)

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    Girls used to marry young..the farther back you go the younger. My Grandma was married, running their family farm with her husband and had a baby on her arm (my dad) when she was 16. Granted, especially post-WWII, girls were encouraged to finish high school before marriage, but many did not. They quit school, got married and got on with the business of life.

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    It amazes me the complete lack of reflection from an entire generation of Americans. From what I can tell we are on the cusp of the Tribulation
    and you people are patting yourselves on the back and blaming the younger people. The generation who brought us the whole rebellion against
    "the man" actually rebelled against God himself. In some ways the seeds were planted by prior generations but the Boomers took the ball and ran.

    1. Sexual Revolution
    2, Feminism
    3. No fault divorce
    4. Rampant materialism
    5. Multi-Culturalism
    6. Usary
    7. Legitimization of illegal drugs

    I could continue on with many more if I had a mind to. The Boomers have played a huge role in changing this country from the greatest Christian
    nation in the history of the world into a 3rd world shit hole that is on the verge of collapse and civil war. The great political and societal change
    that you fought for have played a vital role in getting us into this mess. You have left the younger generation with a country full of non-whites who hate them,
    broken families, unwed mothers, dope addicts and an amount of debt that is unfathomable.

    I could overlook all of this because I realize that Satan and his minions are behind this and we as a people are easily led astray, myself included.

    What I can't get over is the Boomers patting themselves on the back for the great stewardship they have provided. Every Boomer I talk with tells me the same
    thing about the state of our once great nation.

    1. I better get my Social Security
    2. I hope I am dead before the SHTF

    Something tells me many from your generation will not be getting the welcoming they thought they would be getting when they meet God.

    For the record I was born early Gen-X.

    Flame away

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    1968 wasn’t 1944. That kind of thing just wasn’t “done” back then. (Of course, in reality it happened, it was pretty damn rare.)
    Quote Originally Posted by WalknTrot View Post
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    Girls used to marry young..the farther back you go the younger. My Grandma was married, running their family farm with her husband and had a baby on her arm (my dad) when she was 16. Granted, especially post-WWII, girls were encouraged to finish high school before marriage, but many did not. They quit school, got married and got on with the business of life.
    It may have been rare *out of wedlock*, but as WalknTrot points out, girls *often* married before they were 21, and an awful lot of robust, 7# "preemies" were born 7 months after the wedding. Given the lack of effective birth control, I don't think unexpected pregnancies were nearly as rare as you are insisting. they just weren't talked about... just whispered. We didn't see baby showers for single mothers, etc. They either married the guy (and speaking of "just wasn't done"... if he didn't "do right" by the girl, it was known far and wide, and he was a social pariah) or quietly went to visit relatives (actually a home for unwed mothers) for a few months.

    I'll grant that what you didn't see was 14 year olds flaunting everything, and then proudly wearing a tight maternity top with the word "BABY" and an arrow pointing to the proof of their fornication.

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    i have had the "ok boomer" tossed at me.
    in general, it is used to be dismissive particularly when they have no retort.

    my best example to date is a fella from the Altima Coup forum on faceb'k who complained about a vibration coming from the right front wheel and was seeking advice on what it could be.
    there are a number of standard dismissive phrases for someone asking advice with insufficient technical information. "Part it out", "Check the blinker fluid"
    and my personal favorite . . .
    "Get your girlfriend to lose about 40 pounds and that will smooth right out"
    to which he responded
    "Ok boomer"

    and I laughed - because I know from experience how easy it is to exceed GVRW in an Altima Coup and that one of the symptoms is the front end of that front wheel drive car will get bouncy . . . well that, and that his girlfriend needs to lose 40 pounds.
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    This topic was brought up Thanksgiving. My Grandmom said that they were told by their parents the same thing, I've heard it my parents have and the grands so it seems to be something that is just passed down. The world changes, experiences are different, nothing in the human experience is static. IMHO

    But than again I'm a Gen X.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    I don’t think both you and your mother can be boomers.
    Yes, they can, at least under the current definitions started by Fourth Turning Theory, that's because each "saculum" (not sure about spelling sorry) is about 20 years and not everyone has a Mom that is 20 years or older than they are.

    My Mom had a family at her church in Mississippi where for 5 generations or so, the ladies all got married and had their first between 15 and 16; she sent me a photo of them in the local paper once with I think Great-great grandma down to newborn great-great-grandchild, they ranged in ages from about 100 to newborn.

    That sort of thing is rare, but it is only in the last couple of generations that almost no one marries this early; in the early 1970s a number of my classmates married and had kids at 15 or 16.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    I don’t think both you and your mother can be boomers.
    Her 1946
    Me 1963

    Is my math wrong?

    Yeah she was a bit young...

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    One of the married girls (a first in 1972) in my class has her baby at 16 (judge signed on for the marriage because she was pregnant) her mother also married at 16.

    They were one of the old Italian "land-owning" ranch families in the San Luis Obispo area and my classmate's Mom had 15 kids and her sister 17 kids both also starting about age 16.

    Dennis, I don't know where you were in the 1970s (and late 1960s) or for that matter even the early 1980s but I can say to some degree in California and extremely often in Mississippi when we moved there in 1973, teenage brides and babies were pretty common.

    My Mom used to run a daycare center and she would often end up helping these young women who married at 16, had two babies by 19 and then hubby left to "find himself" or whatever.

    My Mom would babysit their kids for free for job interviews, help them get GED's, apply for nursing or other real career schools, or take their kids at weekends so they could work at the Stop and Go to pay the rent.

    She was like a den mother to them and before anyone asks (not that it matters) these were almost all young white women and to this day their kids think of my late Mother as a second grandma.
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    Melodi, I was aren’t referring to the 60’s, 70’s or 80’s. I was referring to the 40’s. Huge difference in moral standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    Melodi, I was aren’t referring to the 60’s, 70’s or 80’s. I was referring to the 40’s. Huge difference in moral standards.
    Oh, you mean when my Mom's friends were getting married at 13 (and she had to help them learn to write checks in their 50s when hubby died because he was 15 years older?).

    She was worried about being an old maid at 20...

    This may be partly a matter of social class, but my Mom's best friend in college had married at 13, a mature student she would have married in the 1920s or 1930s.

    Loretta Lynn married at 12, but she had to lie and say she was 14 and she's still with us last I looked.

    My Mom said the difference was (morals wise) "my friends and I would have found the idea of sex before marriage unthinkable, so you got married instead".

    I just looked it up and the average age for marriage in 1940 was 20, which means about 50 percent of brides were younger, including a lot of war brides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    Back in that time, getting pregnant at age 17 would have been scandalous.
    She was married to my father. Otherwise, yep!

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    She was married to my father. Otherwise, yep!
    Exactly, pretty much what my Mom told in the 1970s...oh and her sister married her bonnie sailor laddie at 19 and had her first child at 20, which was really common.

    Given the right years, that would put my cousin and her Mom in the same generation using the 4th turning theory (think they just missed that given my cousin was born I think in 1954).
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    While I agree that to some extent GenZ are being rude and using the boomer term derisively, I think that there are valid points that must be addressed.

    The "stewardship" of prior generations has led us into an unending cycle of "wars on things" (terror, poverty, drugs.....things that can't be defeated), crippling debt, a lack of societal cohesion and a failure of civility.

    GenY and GenZ (I refuse to use the ridiculous monikers that have been applied since GenX) were reared by the TV and school system and devices, because parents and grandparents couldn't be troubled to impart any effort into raising a child and, as humans nearly always do, took the easier path.
    To say that "helicopter parenting" is a GenY or Z problem is to discount the parents as having a will of their own.

    Through the ages we have always stood on the shoulders of those that came before us. This is true in science and technology and society in general.
    To blame the problems of today on spoiled children is to deny the blame deserved by parents and the legalistic society that rewards promiscuity and divorce.
    Maybe the children will grow up. More likely the cultural revolution of the 1960's will finally come to its logical conclusion (the bugaloo), though it will be 50+ years too late.

    As opposed to those that just want their check and to be dead before shtf, I would rather that hard times come in my time, so that I may bear the burden rather than my children.

    And that, I think is the biggest difference: the boomers, et al, sold the future of their progeny for their comfort and benefit. The debasing of the currency and culture and rights happened during their watch, and many of us cannot forgive such a betrayal.

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    “You have left the younger generation with a country full of non-whites who hate them,
    broken families, unwed mothers, dope addicts and an amount of debt that is unfathomable.”

    My SIL’s family to a T. Two daughter and a son, all mixed. Welfare queen, heroin addict, socialist.
    All still sponging off Mom and her considerable retirement fund from, gasp, working all her life.
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