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GOV/MIL U.S. Navy Plans To Stop Buying P-8 Poseidon Sub Hunters Despite Growing Undersea Threat
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    U.S. Navy Plans To Stop Buying P-8 Poseidon Sub Hunters Despite Growing Undersea Threat

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/lorenth.../#5b9895e059fe (fair use)
    Dec 2, 2019, 11:48am Loren Thompson

    The U.S. Navy’s 2021 budget proposal apparently will request no new money to purchase the service’s only long-range anti-submarine aircraft, despite a growing undersea threat and a shortfall in aircraft designed to cope with that threat.

    The P-8 Poseidon multi-mission aircraft, a militarized version of the Boeing 737 jetliner, conducts anti-submarine, anti-surface and shipping interdiction missions from land bases, flying much further with greater payload than any carrier-based plane could.

    Poseidon rotates frequently to the bases of overseas allies as it conducts maritime surveillance of the Northern Atlantic, Western Pacific and other areas. The plane uses acoustic sensors and radar to detect hostile warships, and carries munitions such as torpedoes that would be used in wartime to destroy such threats.

    However, the Navy says it has a validated warfighting requirement of 138 Poseidons to cope with Russian and Chinese naval forces, and it looks likely to stop purchases at 117—far short of that requirement. Congressional appropriators are asking the Navy how it would replace the aging sub hunters in two Navy Reserve squadrons—which must retire in the near future—if production of the P-8 is prematurely terminated.

    During the Cold War, the Navy operated three dozen squadrons of land-based sub hunters as it sought to counter the threat posed by hundreds of Soviet submarines and the powerful surface fleet of the Red Navy. Today it has only a dozen such squadrons, even though the Russians continue to invest in new undersea technology and the Chinese Navy is building out its own submarine force.

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    Around here they’re still flying the P-3. I suppose there is a lot of milage left on the old birds.

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    Isn't the 737 hull technical still in production?

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    again, officers determine what grunts get by price,

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    I am not anti-Navy by any means. Rather the opposite. But our current Navy leaves a lot to be desired. What the heck are they teaching at Annapolis anyhow? I truly fear for my country should we have another major war approaching anything of the order of the last great event in the 40's. We wouldn't be able to defend the Great Lakes the way things are going. Planes grounded for lack of parts, ships that can't make way, much less perform their intended purposes once they do make way, and senior officers that are more interested in politics than they are military mission.

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    The Navy broke the bank with their F-35, LCS, DDG 1000, and Ford Class programs. Good job Pentagon. Probably need a few more Flag rank officers.

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    U.S. Navy Plans To Stop Buying P-8 Poseidon Sub Hunters Despite Growing Undersea Threat

    The Navy and DOD need to be redone with actual warriors making decisions on weapon systems and improving weapon systems that work....

    Texican....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texican View Post
    U.S. Navy Plans To Stop Buying P-8 Poseidon Sub Hunters Despite Growing Undersea Threat

    The Navy and DOD need to be redone with actual warriors making decisions on weapon systems and improving weapon systems that work....

    Texican....
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    Let's see here...an established program with fewer opportunities for graft, corruption and kickbacks.

    What kind of emerging, zoomie technology are they going to dump that money into?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bensam View Post
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    I strongly second that !!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandune View Post
    Around here they’re still flying the P-3. I suppose there is a lot of milage left on the old birds.
    While the P-3 is still flying, the versatile, bada$$ workhorse S-3 Viking has been retired. Was so impressed reading about this aircraft.

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