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TERRORISM Mexican Cartel Leader Arrested in Connection to Mormon Family Murders
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    Mexican Cartel Leader Arrested in Connection to Mormon Family Murders

    Mexican authorities announced the arrest of four suspects in connection with their alleged roles in the high-profile attack that killed nine women and children from a Mormon U.S. family last month in Sonora. One was identified as the regional leader for the “La Linea” faction of the Juarez Cartel.

    Mexico’s Attorney General’s Office (FGR) made the announcement on Sunday afternoon as international pressure mounts over the massacre. A man identified only as “Mario H.” or “El Mayo” from the Juarez Cartel (not to be mistaken for Ismael “El Mayo” Zambada from the Sinaloa Cartel) was named as the individual largely responsible for the November 4 attack where a group of cartel gunmen ambushed and murdered nine women and children as they drove toward the U.S.-Mexico Border destined for Phoenix, Arizona.

    The arrest of El Mayo and two other men took place in a series of raids, the statement revealed. Those arrests followed the capture of another gunman in November who reportedly gave “more information about the individuals involved.” Mexican authorities have not released any information about the identity of the other suspects or the details on their arrests.

    Mexican authorities say the attack on the LeBaron family was a case of mistaken identity since cartel gunmen mistook the family’s SUVs for a rival convoy. The severity of the case indicates an apparent lack of control over Mexico’s highways. Prior to the LeBaron incident, La Linea carried out attacks on towns controlled by factions of the Sinaloa Cartel in the same border state. La Linea had deployed gunmen throughout their turf, expecting a similar incursion from rivals.

    https://www.breitbart.com/border/201...amily-murders/
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    ...Que up Massacre part Duex in 3...2...1...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ltd View Post
    ...Que up Massacre part Duex in 3...2...1...
    naw, these 4 were sacrificial lambs.


    and the guy "giving up information"....is giving up information he was told to give up.

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    He’ll admit that he did it, closing the case. Then the cartel will attack wherever he’s being held and free him. Mexico’s kerfluffle with the US over it gets resolved, and no one has to go to prison. Win-win.

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    Hard to see how anyone with 20-20 vision could have mistaken vehicles with women and children in them for 'rivals.' Unless they were shooting from a very long distance, but even then, there's no excuse. We were taught as young children to always make sure of your target before firing at it. If that's important when hunting wild animals, it's even more important when hunting people. No excuse for shooting women and children AT ALL.

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    These days, windows are dark-tinted in most cars, particularly those sold in the southern half of the US or in desert areas. No one is going to be able to see through the tint. Not from a quarter mile away, and not 2’ from the glass.

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    And the shooters have to care enough to exercise target discrimination. Not often a feature south of the border - or north of it, often enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    These days, windows are dark-tinted in most cars, particularly those sold in the southern half of the US or in desert areas. No one is going to be able to see through the tint. Not from a quarter mile away, and not 2’ from the glass.
    That makes sense, and I didn't think about that. Still, they shouldn't be shooting without being sure of what they are shooting at. American morals don't apply down there, I do realize. It's too bad.

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    You’re trying to apply morals to ANY criminal? Is there something wrong with you?

    CRIMINALS HAVE NO MORALS, PERIOD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    You’re trying to apply morals to ANY criminal? Is there’s something wrong with you?

    CRIMINALS HAVE NO MORALS, PERIOD.
    LOL! Okay, you are right. Well, but some do have some sort of morals, and don't shoot innocent women and children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freeholder View Post
    LOL! Okay, you are right. Well, but some do have some sort of morals, and don't shoot innocent women and children.

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    Again, this isn’t the 1950’s, where a burglar would break in only when a house was empty, and run like hell if discovered. Today, they’ll break in with full knowledge that people are home, beat or kill the males, rape and kill the females, make themselves a sandwich, and only then rob the place. And you know it.
    Last edited by Dennis Olson; 12-02-2019 at 02:20 PM. Reason: Ending was snarky; fixed.

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    I'm not sure the cartel will break these guys out, they screwed up by all accounts.

    This is most likely a "turn yourselves in for your screw up, and stick to this script, or else"

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    In an interview, one of the women was said to have gotten got out and begged for the gunmen to not shoot because there were just women and children. The women were raped and then shot to death.

    I don't think they mistook the vehicles...I don't buy that.....bunch of animals...that need to be exterminated...

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    There were some previous indications it was the result of an ongoing 'water war' among farm groups and had nothing to do with cartels. True or not I don't know, but narratives serve all sorts of different purposes for all sorts of different people and reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    You’re trying to apply morals to ANY criminal? Is there’s something wrong with you?

    CRIMINALS HAVE NO MORALS, PERIOD.
    Mexicans are some of the worst, they have no remorse and actually find these slaughters funny most of the time, they think nothing of killing innocents and torture is a regular occurrence, this alone proves that they are incompatible with 1st world societies.

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    Perhaps we mistake the cartel’s military tactics for military justice code - an officer/NCO is supposed to be able to exercise a certain amount of judgment in an op. If something isn’t right, use your best judgment. If the targets DID turn out to be women & children, and the team leader thinks it’s unlawful to carry out said order...it’s refused...

    I’m thinking there’s no such built in safeguard among the cartel’s soldiers’. You go and do, period.

    As another poster already stated, they what they were ordered to do, the intel was wrong, someone has to fall on their sword...Juan’s promising, but short career as a cartel soldier will end badly for him.

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    Scape goats so Trump doesn't go through with the terrorist designation.
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    It could be that the attack started by thinking that it was a rival convoy. Then once they got closer and had the vehicles disabled they realized that they had made a mistake. But at that time it was decided to not leave any witnesses. Possibly a smart move actually but due to the number of actual survivors was not performed very well.

    Remember most of the guns in a cartel are poor, uneducated and very poorly trained individuals whose main jobs is to look and act tough and pull a trigger. A little looting and raping is to be expected as they know unless their bosses intervene they can get away with it. In this case because their targets were american women and children the publicity got away from them and someone needed to take the fall. If this had been a couple of truck loads of mexican farmers and their familys on their way to market no one would have given it a seconds thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by twobarkingdogs View Post
    It could be that the attack started by thinking that it was a rival convoy. Then once they got closer and had the vehicles disabled they realized that they had made a mistake. But at that time it was decided to not leave any witnesses. Possibly a smart move actually but due to the number of actual survivors was not performed very well.

    Remember most of the guns in a cartel are poor, uneducated and very poorly trained individuals whose main jobs is to look and act tough and pull a trigger. A little looting and raping is to be expected as they know unless their bosses intervene they can get away with it. In this case because their targets were american women and children the publicity got away from them and someone needed to take the fall. If this had been a couple of truck loads of mexican farmers and their familys on their way to market no one would have given it a seconds thought

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    I would take this explanation.

    They are feral scavengers.

    Not unlike dogs who are habituated to humans, but survive in the wild.

    Very dangerous.
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    2dogs is spot in IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Millwright View Post
    I would take this explanation.

    They are feral scavengers.

    Not unlike dogs who are habituated to humans, but survive in the wild.

    Very dangerous.
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    I agree wholeheartedly.

    Furthermore, they should be handled in the same manner as feral dogs.

    That is likely not a popular opinion and the hand wringers may experience extreme difficulty but that is the way I see it.

    Extreme violence is already present in FUSA and the OP is only evidence that it is going to get much worse.

    Get ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    He’ll admit that he did it, closing the case. Then the cartel will attack wherever he’s being held and free him. Mexico’s kerfluffle with the US over it gets resolved, and no one has to go to prison. Win-win.
    They'll probably let him go just as they did with the other two.

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