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    Catholic Bishops Endorse Gun Control Manifesto

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    America’s Catholic Bishops made a strong endorsement of gun control during their yearly Fall General Assembly this week in Baltimore.

    The bishops endorsed wide-ranging restrictions on American gun ownership, such as “assault weapons” bans, magazine capacity restrictions, and “limitations on handguns.” A graphic of the endorsed proposals surfaced online.

    The bishops face the risk of alienating their gun-owning parishioners by pushing a gun control agenda. Many practicing American Catholics own guns.



    Bishop Frank Dewayne of Venice, Florida spearheaded the push for gun control. Some of the prominent liberals within the American Catholic hierarchy have gone even further in calling for gun restrictions on American citizens.


    The USCCB (United States Conference of Catholic Bishops) earlier endorsed a prospective “assault weapons” ban after the 2017 Las Vegas shooting. The bishops endorsed the 1994 ban put in place by philanderer Bill Clinton, that studies show failed to significantly deter gun violence in America.

    The Vatican maintains a highly-trained and armed professional security service, a luxury that leading American clergy seem unwilling to permit for everyday American citizens. In fact, the Vatican City Gendarmerie is equipped with submachine guns largely out of the legal reach of American gun owners.

    As American Catholic leaders make wide-ranging forays into secular political issues, the Church in America faces serious challenges. Almost half of American adults raised in Catholicism go on to leave the religion.

    Catholics need bishops laser-focused on their pastoral duties and administering the sacraments to souls in an era where the Church faces a plethora of major crises, such as clerical sex abuse and a lack of clarity on fundamental doctrine from the Vatican. It’s simply not the place of the bishops to agitate against American gun rights.
    "Dark and difficult times lie ahead. Soon we will all face the choice between what is right, and what is easy."
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    “During the course of your life you will find that things are not always fair. You will find that things happen to you that you do not deserve and that are not always warranted. But you have to put your head down and fight, fight, fight. Never, ever, ever give up!”

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    I firmly believe that today’s Catholic leadership is absolutely evil.

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    Couldn't think much less of Catholics anyway.
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    I don’t think anything about rank-and-file Catholics. But the church leadership is firmly apostate.

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    This coming from the group that has been packing the country with immigrants from the 3rd world and whose leader is known as red francis. I am shocked.
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    I, and I'm sure others here, lament the death of journalism.

    The problem we face today is more insidious than simple "fake news." Take the OP as an example. Of the 8 paragraphs, only paragraph 1, 2, 4, and 5 are legitimate news reporting. Paragraph 3, 6 and 7 show some "slant" or bias, while the final paragraph is blatant editorializing that is downright shameful in an article that presents itself as news.

    The unwitting reader assimilates that concluding paragraph as "informational" without realizing he or she is being propagandized. The question isn't whether one agrees or disagrees with the opinion expressed in that concluding paragraph. The question is whether news reporting should allow the reader to form his or her own opinions rather than telling him or her what to think.

    Journalism has died.
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    And just another reason I was "raised Catholic" but haven't been to Mass in decades.

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    Well the few Catholic J6P's I have spoken with don't feel that way, and are sadly disappointed with the apostate leaders of their faith.

    Perhaps another falling away from that group is on the horizon.

    Personally my answer is the same as for any would be tyrant victim disarmament advocates:

    Molon Labe bitches.

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    Well, the Lord Jesus Himself said that He would set father against son, and mother against daughter.

    There’s no human denomination or group that hasn’t been divided - down to very families. The dividing line is Light vs Darkness

    “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person's enemies will be those of his own household. Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.“ Matthew 10:34-37

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dozdoats View Post
    Couldn't think much less of Catholics anyway.
    I resemble that remark, Catholics have more fun !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    ...the church leadership is firmly apostate.
    The church leadership has pretty much ALWAYS been firmly apostate. Just ask Luther.
    We have done so much, with so little, for so long....We can now do anything, with nothing, forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squib View Post
    Well, the Lord Jesus Himself said that He would set father against son, and mother against daughter.

    There’s no human denomination or group that hasn’t been divided - down to very families. The dividing line is Light vs Darkness

    “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person's enemies will be those of his own household. Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.“ Matthew 10:34-37
    Well said.

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    Is this really about keeping guns away from their altar boys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coulter View Post
    Is this really about keeping guns away from their altar boys?
    Yea, you don't want those alter boys shooting when you are trying to moleste them...
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    America’s Catholic Bishops made a strong endorsement of gun control during their yearly Fall General Assembly this week in Baltimore.

    Kind of dovetails with the above. You would think they would have better things to do and more important issues on their plates and they can start with weeding out the pedophiles in the priesthood to being with.
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    They sure jumped on the "stupid train"...

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    Yea, nothing like being told how to be "moral" in life by a bunch of gay, Marxist pedophiles. I believe in the church and their religious beliefs, not the rantings of the gay, pedophile Marxist that infiltrated and took it over.

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    From the Religion News Service RNS


    1st: Attitudes on gun control are mostly related to political affiliation rather than religious denomination. In other words the attitudes of Republican Atheists, Evangelicals, and Mormons are almost identical. The real difference revolves around whether they are Republican or Democrat.

    2nd: Almost universal support for Background Checks among all denominations and political affiliations

    3rd: There is almost 90% background check support, and almost as large majority support for UNIVERSAL background checks. Yet so far, universal background checks have not been passed. It is very unlikely that things like "assault weapon" bans will ever be passed with the current public opinion.

    Currently the only gun control measure likely to be passed would be universal background checks.


    https://religionnews.com/2019/08/29/...rol-in-the-us/

    Which religions support gun control in the US?

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    With mass shootings becoming a regular occurrence in the United States and gun control efforts largely stalled in government, it’s worth dissecting which Americans support gun control measures, and how they affiliate religiously — or don’t.
    To determine this, Ryan Burge, an assistant professor of political science at Eastern Illinois University, has analyzed data from the 2018 Cooperative Congressional Election Study (CCES), a national survey with 60,000 respondents.
    The gun control portion of the study can be broken down into three parts: whether respondents want potential gun owners to have a background check, whether they want a ban on assault weapons, and whether they think it should be easier to obtain a concealed-carry permit.
    The first measure—requiring background checks wherever a gun might be purchased—has broad support among both religious and nonreligious Americans, as evidenced by Burge’s chart. In fact, the support is overwhelming even among the most religiously conservative groups, such as white evangelicals and Mormons.

    From a social science perspective, this is as close as we might get to any kind of gun control consensus in these politically polarized times.
    “Basically, unanimous support is anything above 80%,” says Burge. “That’s about everybody. And even among white evangelicals, who are very conservative, support for background checks is over 80%. If they support it, it’s a canary in a coal mine.”
    Burge’s research shows that where background checks are concerned, support crosses party lines as well as religious ones.
    For example, among atheists, 98% of Democrats support it, and also 81% of atheists who are Republicans. For Mormons, approval for background checks is steady at 87% for adherents of both major parties.

    “That’s as broad a support as you can get in today’s climate,” says Burge.
    But that’s where the similarities end—both by religion and by party. The other two gun control issues are far more divisive, the CCES research shows.
    Some of the most avid opponents of assault rifles are atheist Democrats, and the most avid champions are white evangelical Republicans.

    What’s more, the various religious groups are experiencing deep divides within themselves on this question.
    For example, there’s nearly a fifty-point drop between mainline Protestants who are Democrats and those who are Republicans; 9 in 10 mainline Democrats want to ban these weapons, but only about 4 in 10 mainline Republicans do.
    That’s not even the largest divide: atheists and agnostics each have a 60-point separation on the assault rifle question.

    “It looks like Democrats uniformly are in favor of banning assault weapons,” Burge summarizes. “The Democrats are between 80-90% support in banning them, regardless of religious tradition.”
    Democrats are also largely unified on the question of concealed-carry permits: they don’t want to make it any easier to obtain them. Democrats in some religious groups (Jews and atheists) poll as low as the single digits in their support for easing the concealed-carry process. Even the highest support among Democrats in any religious group is not overwhelming: 27% of Muslim Democrats would like to smooth the process.

    Republicans, by contrast, are noticeably more enthusiastic about concealed-carry permits. “Gun control has become a proxy for partisanship, and it breaks really cleanly across party lines,” says Burge.
    But he also notes that GOP support for these last two measures isn’t universal. Between 30% to 50% of Republicans in the various religious traditions say they would like to see assault weapons banned. That’s not the overwhelming opposition to assault rifles that the data shows among Democrats, but it is a surprising plurality.
    He doubts this will move the needle much on gun control politically, however.
    “If you can’t get background checks passed and you have something like a 90% approval rating for it across the board, you’re not going to be able to ban assault rifles,” which does not have majority Republican support.
    In sum, Burge says, “The background check has universal appeal, and everything else is partisanship coming to the fore.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinecone View Post
    And just another reason I was "raised Catholic" but haven't been to Mass in decades.
    Mass is not the problem, and never was.
    "Dark and difficult times lie ahead. Soon we will all face the choice between what is right, and what is easy."
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    A people who no longer recognize sin and evil, are not a people who will recognize tyranny and despotism either. Invar


    “During the course of your life you will find that things are not always fair. You will find that things happen to you that you do not deserve and that are not always warranted. But you have to put your head down and fight, fight, fight. Never, ever, ever give up!”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Mass is not the problem, and never was.
    That's true, Cardinal. My dad (who was an alter boy) used to tell me that in Europe when they got a communist priest in the local parish, the parishioners would step outside during the Homily, and return to finish Mass when the priest was done. I quit going to Mass when pedophilia was not only exposed, but they were sending the pedophile priests from one parish to another without warning. How could I tell my children that a priest was a Godly man, but don't get caught in a room alone with one.

    It's not just Catholicism that has problems. All the churches do. I've found I can talk to God without the intervention of a priest. We are taught that God is omnipresent and omniscient, so he must hear our prayers.

    Everyone has to make that choice themselves, and I respect their decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinecone View Post
    That's true, Cardinal. My dad (who was an alter boy) used to tell me that in Europe when they got a communist priest in the local parish, the parishioners would step outside during the Homily, and return to finish Mass when the priest was done. I quit going to Mass when pedophilia was not only exposed, but they were sending the pedophile priests from one parish to another without warning. How could I tell my children that a priest was a Godly man, but don't get caught in a room alone with one.

    It's not just Catholicism that has problems. All the churches do. I've found I can talk to God without the intervention of a priest. We are taught that God is omnipresent and omniscient, so he must hear our prayers.

    Everyone has to make that choice themselves, and I respect their decision.
    Well your daddy did that right.
    Just remember that to reject the Eucharist is to reject Jesus.
    Of course, since the institution of the Novus Ordo you can't be sure the consecration is being done properly anyway.
    That is why I switched over to the SSPX.
    "Dark and difficult times lie ahead. Soon we will all face the choice between what is right, and what is easy."
    Dumbledore to Harry Potter, Goblet of Fire.

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    A people who no longer recognize sin and evil, are not a people who will recognize tyranny and despotism either. Invar


    “During the course of your life you will find that things are not always fair. You will find that things happen to you that you do not deserve and that are not always warranted. But you have to put your head down and fight, fight, fight. Never, ever, ever give up!”

    - President Donald J. Trump

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