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ALERT School shooting - Saugus High School, Santa Clarita California
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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by vestige View Post
    Asian???

    Is this a bona fide, real, "gook" type Asian or has MSM/California started using the misleading European model for "Asian" which practically includes any individual from east of the former Iron Curtain?
    It is NOT a misleading word - in British English, the term ASIAN is used to refer to people from the former "Asian" British colonies (along with the French) mostly in India, Pakistan or Bangladesh.

    Just like in BRITISH ENGLISH (also used in Ireland) the term Oriental means "East" which is why a University Department of Middle Eastern Studies in the UK is often called "The Department of Oriental Studies."

    Neither of the these terms is misleading unless you are speaking AMERICAN English which has decided for some reason that "Asian" means mostly people from China, Vietnam, Japan or Cambodia (etc).

    The Brits have trouble understanding why Americans call Asians "Indians," sometimes in the UK/Ireland you will hear the term "East Asian" for folks in what the US would consider "The Orient" (aka China etc).

    Sorry for the thread drift but while many things on both sides of the water are recent "PC nonsense" these terms are over a century old on this side of the water - not a new PC way of trying to hide something; they way made-up words like Winterval (instead of Christmas or Yule do).

    Back to the topic, so sad to see another horrible shooting, I hope very much the young people affected are able to fully recover and that the only death is the shooters.
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    Ugh..........


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    #BREAKING: One female victim has died after the shooting at #saugushigh. #CBSLA
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    Quote Originally Posted by mzkitty View Post
    Ugh..........


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    #BREAKING: One female victim has died after the shooting at #saugushigh. #CBSLA
    Dang....blast....I will not do comic book because this isn't funny but just really sad and horrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melodi View Post
    Dang....blast....I will not do comic book because this isn't funny but just really sad and horrible.
    Yup, it is. Poor girl.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craftypatches View Post
    Suspect found, only 15 yrs old!
    The solution is obvious: make it illegal for underage kids to own guns.



    Oh, wait....

  6. #46
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    When ever the perpetrator in incidents like these shootings off themselves as the cops close in on them, I always wonder if that's the Demon(s) that possessed them way of making sure they can't be questioned to reveal that evil is really involved and behind these shooting events.
    More likely the shooter had been obsessing about how good it was going to feel after his targets were dead/down. Then when the targets ARE down it suddenly gets clear that things just got way worse. At that point suicide makes really good sense.
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    Reporting truly sucks worse than ever.

    Sitting here at lunch with HLN on the TV in the lunchroom and they are still reporting the suspect is in custody rather than deceased. So which is it? I guess a room temperature corpse could be considered to be in custody.
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    #42:

    I understand/understood perfectly everything stated in #42 long before I made my previous comment.

    It is apparently the custom of those "reporting" to use every method known to man to mislead the listener/viewer regarding the races of certain individuals... especially in this country. The use of words from other continents is among those customs.

    Reports from California are especially suspect and reports on events there should not be made using terms common to other countries/continents although that frequently occurs.

    This is approximately the third time I have seen the explanation you provided, consequently, my comment was not made based upon ignorance but rather suspicion.

    Thank you for the lecture.

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    LA County Scanner Retweeted
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    We need to interview every student at Saugus HS before they can be released to their parents. We need to conduct a thorough investigation. We apologize for the wait
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  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by vestige View Post
    #42:

    I understand/understood perfectly everything stated in #42 long before I made my previous comment.

    It is apparently the custom of those "reporting" to use every method known to man to mislead the listener/viewer regarding the races of certain individuals... especially in this country. The use of words from other continents is among those customs.

    Reports from California are especially suspect and reports on events there should not be made using terms common to other countries/continents although that frequently occurs.

    This is approximately the third time I have seen the explanation you provided, consequently, my comment was not made based upon ignorance but rather suspicion.

    Thank you for the lecture.
    Sorry to upset you and I will stop "doing the lecture" I get what you are saying now that the papers in California may be using it that way intentionally to be confusing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jward View Post
    Which kind of "asian" is this one? CA has all kinds, eh, but ...
    Yeah... Actual Asian, or British-style "Asian"....
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    Hmmm............


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    #BREAKING A report from @NBCLA is saying the #saugushigh shooter is dead, that is according to multiple law enforcement sources in Santa Clarita. @KUSINews will stream the @LACoSheriff press conference as soon as they step to the podium. #UPDATE #saugushighshooting #KUSINews
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    At least 1 dead in California school shooting, suspect in custody: Live updates

    One person is dead and several others are injured after a shooter opened fire early Thursday morning at a high school in Southern California. One suspect was taken into custody, authorities said.

    Terrified students barricaded in classrooms at Saugus High School in Santa Clarita before they fled the campus, led single file by armed officers.

    "I just started running," sophomore Brooklyn Moreno said. "There was girls falling in front of me and I tried to help them up, then just kept running 'cause I didn't want to get hurt, either."

    While fire officials said six people were hospitalized, Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva said at least three people, all students, were hurt, including at least one gunshot victim.

    Henry Mayo Hospital said one female patient died and two male patients were in critical condition.

    More Information & Live News Updates: https://abcnews.go.com/US/shooting-r...l_twitter_abcn

    Special Edition Live Updates: https://abcn.ws/2zRSoJj
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    So will we find out if the shooter is on proscribed psychiatric SSRI drugs?

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    Well I guess its actually a rare blessing that a mass shooting has so few victims. No comfort in that, really, but I always look for a silver lining.

    As to my asking "which kind of asian" it wasnt intended to be racist per se, or asked out of ignorance as to the hows, whys, whens, and wheres the differing peoples are called differing names.... Just an effort to ascertain, for myself, if this were likely to be a case of a poorly socialized boy acting out, or one of those terroristic type actions.

    Third point is usually the media reports poorly on purpose...but it is mercury retrograde, so miscommunications might simply be accidental for a change...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craftypatches View Post
    Per MSNBC, suspect is in a house but not actually captured yet.
    But we know his age.
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    The suspect is in custody, according to ABC Los Angeles Station KABC - https://abcnews.go.com/US/shooting-r...l_twitter_abcn

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    “ So is he alive or daid?”

    Could be either. Won’t know until we open the box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jward View Post
    Do we need to start assigning "comfort women" to our incels? :: Shaking hea d::
    What makes you say that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kris Gandillon View Post
    Reporting truly sucks worse than ever.

    Sitting here at lunch with HLN on the TV in the lunchroom and they are still reporting the suspect is in custody rather than deceased. So which is it? I guess a room temperature corpse could be considered to be in custody.
    Medical condition could be considered stable as well.
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    Wish they'd get their story straight.

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    #BREAKING @KUSINews is streaming a press briefing on the #SaugusHighShooting where @LACoSheriff Alex Villanueva says 6 victims including the shooter were taken to area hospitals. The shooter is currently in grave condition. Officials say the shooter turned 16-year's old today.
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    PRESSER

    Five victims shot, one of those, a female, is dead.

    The shooter was found shot, from a self inflicted gunshot wound, at the school amongst his victims.

    Security cameras recorded the shooter remove a handgun from his bag and open fire on the victims. He then turn the gun against himself.

    The suspect used a .45 caliber semi-automatic pistol which was empty when it was recovered.

    Today is the shooter's birthday.
    Last edited by Red Baron; 11-14-2019 at 03:02 PM. Reason: Changed six to five victims.
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    #BREAKING #update at least one Saugus HS student has died in shooting. The gunman shot 5 people before shooting himself in the head. Law enforcement agencies are going through shooters home and interviewing his mother and girlfriend. #schoolshooting #santaclarita @ABC30
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  24. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by jward View Post
    Well I guess its actually a rare blessing that a mass shooting has so few victims. No comfort in that, really, but I always look for a silver lining.

    As to my asking "which kind of asian" it wasnt intended to be racist per se, or asked out of ignorance as to the hows, whys, whens, and wheres the differing peoples are called differing names.... Just an effort to ascertain, for myself, if this were likely to be a case of a poorly socialized boy acting out, or one of those terroristic type actions.

    Third point is usually the media reports poorly on purpose...but it is mercury retrograde, so miscommunications might simply be accidental for a change...
    Yeah again I apologize, I looked at several of my posts today and they were less friendly and less clear than they should have been; I think I probably just got up on the wrong side of bed today and I'm sorry and will do my best not to continue in that vein.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Baron View Post
    Security cameras recorded the shooter remove a handgun from his bag and open fire on the victims. He then turn the gun against himself.

    The suspect used a .45 caliber semi-automatic pistol which was empty when it was recovered.
    He was focused enough to count shots. Holy cow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Baron View Post
    PRESSER

    Six victims shot, one of those, a female, is dead.

    The shooter was found shot, from a self inflicted gunshot wound, at the school among his victims.

    Security cameras recorded the shooter remove a handgun from his bag and open fire on the victims. He then turn the gun against himself.

    The suspect used a .45 caliber semi-automatic pistol which was empty when it was recovered.


    Today is the shooter's birthday.
    Whoa, a straight up report! Thank you.
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    Sorry.
    1. If you import the Third World, you become the Third World. It really is that simple.
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    #Breaking #SantaClaritaShooting #Saugus Sheriff reporting a 2nd victim has died at the hospital
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    #BREAKING now @ABC7 a tragic update from @LACoSheriff on #SaugusHighShooting: 5 students were shot by a 16 y.o. gunman, who then shot himself. A 16 y.o. girl & a 14 y.o. boy have been killed. 2 girls 14 y.o. & 15 y.o. are injured. A 14 y.o. boy is also injured. #SantaClarita
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Baron View Post
    PRESSER

    Five victims shot, one of those, a female, is dead.

    The shooter was found shot, from a self inflicted gunshot wound, at the school amongst his victims.

    Security cameras recorded the shooter remove a handgun from his bag and open fire on the victims. He then turned the gun against himself.

    The suspect used a .45 caliber semi-automatic pistol which was empty when it was recovered.

    Today is the shooter's birthday.
    -Correction-

    Five not six victims shot.
    Last edited by Red Baron; 11-14-2019 at 03:06 PM. Reason: spelling
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    California has some of the strictest “gun control” laws in the nation. The shooter was 16 and unlawfully in possession of the gun. Criminals and crazies do not follow the law.

    #GunControlNow #EndGunViolence #schoolshooting #BREAKING #SaugusHigh
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    Quote Originally Posted by mzkitty View Post
    Criminals and crazies do not follow the law.
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    I can hear Feinsein warming up for her ban all guns speech. And yeah, the point of being a criminal is to break the law. Sheesh.
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    Sad.

    May God take the young lady to be with him, heal those that were shot and bring peace to all of the families, friends and fellow students of those that were harmed.

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  35. #75
    And here comes that ****ing piece of shit Gavin Newscum tweeting about "commonsense gun control" as though 15 years can legally purchase or own weapons. Evil sack of shit.

  36. #76
    It seems quite a few of the early reports were not accurate.
    Twitter isn't a reliable source, even if it has an official sounding name on the account.

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    Update:

    November 14, 2019 at 3:30 pm


    SANTA CLARITA (CBSLA) – A girl and a boy were killed and three of their classmates wounded when a fellow student opened fire on his birthday at Saugus High School in Santa Clarita Thursday morning, authorities said. The suspect was hospitalized with a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

    Students are evacuated from Saugus High School onto a school bus after a shooting at the school left two students dead and three wounded on Nov. 14, 2019, in Santa Clarita, Calif. (Getty Images)

    The shooting occurred just after 7:30 a.m. at the school located at 21900 Centurion Way. Responding Los Angeles County Sheriff’s deputies arrived to find six students lying wounded in the campus quad, one of whom they learned later was the suspect. He was identified to CBS News as Nathaniel Berhow.

    “The suspect was later identified as one of the victims who was found in the quad,” L.A. County Sheriff’s Capt. Kent Wegener said at a late Thursday morning news conference.

    Two of the victims, a 16-year-old girl and a 14-year-old boy, died from their injuries after being rushed to Henry Mayor Hospital.

    Two more girls, ages 14 and 15, along with a 14-year-old boy, remained hospitalized.

    Berhow turned 16 on Thursday, Wegener said. He was hospitalized in grave condition, L.A. Sheriff Alex Villanueva said. His gun, a .45-caliber semi-automatic pistol, was found at the scene with no rounds in it.

    “He is identified as a 16-year-old male, whose birthday is today,” Wegener said.

    The shooting was captured on surveillance video.

    “Detectives have reviewed the video at the scene which clearly show the subject in the quad withdraw a handgun from his backpack, shoot and wound five people, and then shoot himself in the head,” Wegener said.

    https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2019...led-3-wounded/

    More details here:

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowMan View Post
    When ever the perpetrator in incidents like these shootings off themselves as the cops close in on them, I always wonder if that's the Demon(s) that possessed them way of making sure they can't be questioned to reveal that evil is really involved and behind these shooting events. Might be a silly thing to consider, but I do wonder, especially when you hear about the shooter prior to this being normal, quite, nice, whatever and then suddenly goes crazy.


    And the ones that live....have you ever noticed what crazy eyes they have?? Something's going on in there.


    Inquiring minds want to know....
    That is not silly at all! Not in the least. Very valid and true- that is how the demons work to claim souls, people listening to the wrong voices in their head and they think it is their own thoughts. Sometimes the demons give direct orders and try to talk over each other, and the person feels like they are losin' it, from what it seems.
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    This was just posted. I don't have any backup for it yet.

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    3 now dead, 3 injured in Santa Clarita High School Shooting, Shooter/Gunman in grave condition after shooting self in head.#BreakingNewsNow #Breaking_News #BreakingNews #BreakingNewz #BreakingNow #Breaking #SCCA #SC #SCCali #SantaClarita #LACalifornia #LosAngelesCalifornia
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    Another tragedy! Yet gunman must be alive yet in grave condition.

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