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GUNS/RLTD [VIDEO] Man Banned Nationwide After Openly Carrying Handgun In Walmart
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    19 [VIDEO] Man Banned Nationwide After Openly Carrying Handgun In Walmart

    From concealednation.org

    While police have not filed any charges against the man, a Lexington, Kentucky Walmart has made him sign a statement that he is aware of his nationwide ban at all Walmart locations.

    Someone had called police to say that an armed man was inside the store and was acting suspiciously. According to that suspicious man, he was sitting in a lawn chair by the firearms counter waiting for help.

    A video (3:18) was taken of the man’s interactions with police while still in the store, and can be viewed here:

    https://www.facebook.com/dadsondutys...1337858298805/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topusaret View Post
    Kentucky Walmart has made him sign a statement
    How did they manage to force him?
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    Where does it say he is banned??

    Just that he is aware of Walmart's policy.
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    By the way, he's an idiot.
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    Drunks in cars kill around ten thousand a year, guns around four hundred.

    Wal-Mart stops selling ammo.

    But they still sell alcohol and gasoline.

    Go ahead and tell me if is for the people
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    Quote Originally Posted by bw View Post
    By the way, he's an idiot.
    I agree....
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    Quote Originally Posted by bw View Post
    By the way, he's an idiot.
    Agree !!

    Even if legal, it is not wise to open carry. Better to remain gray. If some one is there with evil in mind, then you become a prime target. If you remain concealed, you are better able to respond.

    Public Open carry does not serve the 2nd Amendment. Those that do are just red neck "show boaters" - " hey, look at me ". On your private property, is a different matter !

    Just MHO

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    Yep, you're all right. you should only open your mouths in the privacy of your own homes too...wait, they listen there too and will decide if you get to exercise your rights based on the recording they make of you.

    walmart can suck a dirty dog turd...

    funny ..stupid ass sheep have no problem with six cops with guns cause they wear costumes, but if joe sixpack is out and about...

    and don't argue the concealed versus open carry with me. you know DAMN GOOD AND WELL that these pansy assed sheep are still gonna freak out when they catch a glimpse of someones concealed weapon, or even think they do.

    It is all bulls#@T! every gun owner is now a pariah, just like I said they would be.

    embrace your slavery.

    adding... and now because he exercised his constitutional right he is banned nationwide from buying things at a lower price. see how that worked out/ now when the statement he signed without any legal representation, includes all subsidiary companies owned by or invested in by walmart inc.. hmmm you cannot buy or sell ,...anyone?

    push back or grovel at the ditches edge.

    this is all going to get WAY worse.

    you earned it.

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    It's their store, their property, their rules. ALL perfectly within the law.

    Is it DUMB?? yup.

    Will it bite them in the stern (where they keep their wallets)? YUP.


    AESOP puts it this way: https://raconteurreport.blogspot.com...is-marker.html

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    Ammoman wants to try and find some rationale for Fail-Mart's recent publicly anti-gun stance. Lord only knows why, but Stockholm Syndrome is not beyond the realm of possibility here:

    The gun industry has been a bit soft lately. There was a significant amount of panic buying leading up to the 2016 Presidential election. I’m not surprised by that. What we were all surprised about was the outcome of that election. The result was a drop in the market. Lots of guns waiting to be bought. That was matched with lots of folks feeling relieved over avoiding a political nightmare. Without political fear motivating consumers to make purchases, retailers saw low prices and slow sales. Many argue that this didn’t happen, but there is a name for it. We are in a “Trump slump.” Is Walmart dumping the Second Amendment for more profitable products? Maybe.
    RTWT.

    Roundabout, he eventually comes to the proper conclusion, in so many words:
    **** Wal-Mart; shop elsewhere.

    But FFS, stop trolling the bottom of the outhouse for some rationale beyond "WalMart is run by elitist anti-gun ****tards who think they're better than you, and want to take both your money, and your rights, and have you pay for the privilege and thank them to boot."

    The appropriate response to that ends with "...sideways, with a rusty chainsaw."

    Does Wal-Mart have the right to decide what products they'll sell, and who can bring what into their store?
    Absolutely.

    Do they also get to own the backlash that such jackassical moral preening engenders?
    O, **** yeah they do, and will.

    (Hey, Fail-Mart, how's that Cunning Plan worked out for the National Felony League, Dicks, and Jillette™?)

    Because, rather than trying to find some financial rational for their amoral and anti-freedom kneejerk, let's note that they haven't stopped sales of liquor, auto parts, or gasoline to cut down on DUIs, nor thrown out big-screen TVs to cut down on wife-beating during the Superbowl, nor stopped selling kids' pools to cut back on drownings, nor stopped selling prybars and hammers to cut back on burglaries, nor banned ski masks and knives to help with cutting down on robberies and muggings. The one hallmark of WallyWorld is that when it comes to products, they're quite simply the amoral whores you'd expect them to be, on pretty much everything. And those auto burglaries and robberies frequently happen on their premises, and they have studiously looked the other way, and will continue to, for sheer profit's sake.
    Except with guns.

    So let's stop crapping around with trying to left-handedly justify this corporate horseshit by looking for some shred of credibility in "unprofitable lines". They will buy a metric ****ton of corn cob holders and happily make 1¢ a ton, and they never stopped making a profit on guns nor ammo (proof being they're selling all remaining stocks at normal price, not dumping the lot out at sea immediately), so this isn't about low profits, or responsible corporate management, it's about low-IQ senior management sucking up to the communists, and letting the people who run Antifa dictate what's right and wrong.
    That's delusional mania, not management.

    (Word to your mother: when you drag in the dicks at Dick's to explain your theory, you've already driven through the guardrails and off the Cliffs Of Insanity. Just saying.)

    This is a business that's electing to tell you all to **** yourself before they set themselves on fire.

    The proper response to that is to hand them a torch, throw gasoline on them, and get a wind machine to fan the flames once they're gloriously alight. They will be missed not a bit, and the engine of capitalism will swallow them under the waters of companies too stupid to succeed, under which tidal flow they'll sink without even a small burp or bubble to mark their passage.

    And good riddance.

    The last thing they need is someone to float over on a raft and hand them a hanky for their tears, and sing them soft lullabies as they burn, then try to explain afterwards they were turning their lives around before their unfortunate bout of corporate insanity.

    That's on a level of delusional people who put up flowers and candles for roadkill.

    Wal-Mart didn't do this because guns and bullets weren't making them enough profit.
    They did it because their owners are anti-freedom ****tards from Arkansas with a superiority complex in regards to all of America. They think corporate might makes right.

    There's a cure for that: poverty.

    Dulce et decorum est. Pour encourager les autres.

    While they get what's coming to them, put the bong down, and stop trying to rationalize the irrational, and quit assuming no one in business could ever shoot themselves in the foot, with their feet in their mouth.
    It's as common as morons on the freeway and chickens laying eggs.

    Jeebus crispies, has no one ever heard of Hollywood?!?
    Some of the biggest entities in America, and they burn $100 bills by the minute to make a pointless point non-stop every day for fifty years, and no end in sight.
    Because they CAN.

    Compared to them, Wally-World's owners are exactly the bunch of small-time Ozark inbred Jeds you'd expect them to be, compared to the world-class morons running the biggest media empires on the planet.

    In both cases, they are certainly reasons for what they do; but none of them rise to the level of being sufficient excuses for the behavior.

    For that, we have to resort to psychiatric diagnoses.

    Let's don't, ever, endeavor to be apologists for the insane.
    If you're feeling charitable, just put up the orange cones and caution tape, to warn passers-by.

    If you're feeling a bit more motivated, fan the flames, and throw more logs on the fire.
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    And don't forget to bring marshmallows and sticks.
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    I don't see how a nationwide ban will stand in court if challenged...

    I've know some property developers who have tried that ( SIMON Property Group ) and it didn't fly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bw View Post
    By the way, he's an idiot.
    Yep!

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    Yes, he's and idiot. So is their new rule. They might as well have hung a neon, flashing sign inviting nut jobs to the shooting gallery.

    Yes, I'll shop elsewhere. Yes, it will cost more, but cheaper than a funeral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desertvet2 View Post
    Yep, you're all right. you should only open your mouths in the privacy of your own homes too...wait, they listen there too and will decide if you get to exercise your rights based on the recording they make of you.

    walmart can suck a dirty dog turd...

    funny ..stupid ass sheep have no problem with six cops with guns cause they wear costumes, but if joe sixpack is out and about...

    and don't argue the concealed versus open carry with me. you know DAMN GOOD AND WELL that these pansy assed sheep are still gonna freak out when they catch a glimpse of someones concealed weapon, or even think they do.

    It is all bulls#@T! every gun owner is now a pariah, just like I said they would be.

    embrace your slavery.

    adding... and now because he exercised his constitutional right he is banned nationwide from buying things at a lower price. see how that worked out/ now when the statement he signed without any legal representation, includes all subsidiary companies owned by or invested in by walmart inc.. hmmm you cannot buy or sell ,...anyone?

    push back or grovel at the ditches edge.

    this is all going to get WAY worse.

    you earned it.
    I totally agree with you!

    For years, I’ve tried to educated, debate civilly, inform, and provide a positive example of a responsible gun owner/carrier.

    For years I conceded ground. Guess what? The left doesn’t care! They won’t stop pushing until you given up EVERYTHING when it comes to 2nd Amendment rights.

    Let me ask you this? As gun owners, we’ve caved in, compromised, and remained passive as God given rights were taken away in the name of so called “common sense” gun laws.

    When have we ever GAINED any rights? All we do is back up, surrender, cave, and call someone who tries to do something, an idiot!

    What will they call us when we finally try to push back and it’s too late? You guessed it...IDIOT!

    Know what they call someone who loses everything in a negotiation and never gains anything?

    How about we give that sucker a name? Cause many of us are going to fall into that category real soon if we’re not careful!

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    No comment on the original part of the story.

    But doesn't that mean Walmart would have to file restraining orders in all 50 states to have any legal standing?

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    First step in a legal challenge?
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    I wondered what they were going to do here in Texas. If they do not want me to open carry they have to post a 30-07 sign (with the appropriate sized letters and in a contrasting color) that has the force of law and nothing else does. They can escort me from the property I guess but I can then sue them because they did not use the legally proscribed solution.

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    Gun rights activists test Walmart request not to open-carry guns into store

    Quote Originally Posted by teedee View Post
    I wondered what they were going to do here in Texas. If they do not want me to open carry they have to post a 30-07 sign (with the appropriate sized letters and in a contrasting color) that has the force of law and nothing else does. They can escort me from the property I guess but I can then sue them because they did not use the legally proscribed solution.


    By Rebecca Klar - 09/10/19 08:55 AM EDT
    https://thehill.com/homenews/news/46...uns-into-store


    Gun rights activists in Texas are testing Walmart’s request not to open-carry in stores by doing just that.

    David Amad, the vice president of Open Carry Texas, told The New York Times the 38,000 members of his group have openly carried their guns inside Walmart stores since the retailer announced last week it is “respectfully requesting” customers to no longer openly bring guns into its stores.

    He said none of the members who have done so have been asked to leave.

    “They are ducking the issue,” Amad told the Times. “They are trying to get the gun haters to leave them alone, while at the same time leave us alone when we carry in their stores.”

    A Walmart spokesperson told The Hill that employees are not instructed to approach peaceful shoppers who may be carrying guns in areas where hunting is popular. The goal is to maintain a “non-confrontational approach," the spokesperson said, citing the language Walmart president and CEO Doug McMillion used in last week’s announcement.

    However, the spokesperson said the company has provided guidelines for store managers if a customer is making employees or customers uncomfortable. Managers are expected to take the advised protocol for different situations, which in some instances may mean calling law enforcement.

    Walmart’s decision to ask gun owners not to openly carry firearms into its stores came after an August shooting at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, left 22 dead.

    The decision stopped short of an outright ban on guns in stores and represents a similar approach to those taken by other retailers, including Kroger, Walgreens, CVS, Target and Starbucks.

    Costco is the only retailer in the top 30 largest U.S. retailers to ban firearms, based on interviews conducted by The Hill last week.

    Stores can legally restrict the carrying of guns on to their private property.

    --This report was updated at 12:20 p.m.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurane View Post
    Where does it say he is banned??

    Just that he is aware of Walmart's policy.
    The paper he eventually signs is a nationwide Trespass Notice.

    I agree that he shouldn't have signed it. At that point, he had not committed a crime and was not trespassing until the manager notified him that he was. He was under no obligation to sign anything, and certainly not under those somewhat "coercive" circumstances.
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    Just have to see who lines up behind him.

    GOA, NSSF, NRA?

    There is more to this than it's face value, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macgyver View Post
    No comment on the original part of the story.

    But doesn't that mean Walmart would have to file restraining orders in all 50 states to have any legal standing?
    See my comment.

    Not restraining orders but trespass warnings which usually have to be given while the offender is in the immediate vicinity and him having to sign a document stating he understand's he is no longer welcome on the property. Which is why SIMON Property Group's attempt at doing the same thing failed out of the gate...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squib View Post
    I totally agree with you!

    For years, I’ve tried to educated, debate civilly, inform, and provide a positive example of a responsible gun owner/carrier.

    For years I conceded ground. Guess what? The left doesn’t care! They won’t stop pushing until you given up EVERYTHING when it comes to 2nd Amendment rights.

    Let me ask you this? As gun owners, we’ve caved in, compromised, and remained passive as God given rights were taken away in the name of so called “common sense” gun laws.

    When have we ever GAINED any rights? All we do is back up, surrender, cave, and call someone who tries to do something, an idiot!

    What will they call us when we finally try to push back and it’s too late? You guessed it...IDIOT!

    Know what they call someone who loses everything in a negotiation and never gains anything?

    How about we give that sucker a name? Cause many of us are going to fall into that category real soon if we’re not careful!
    It is too late, now, as you've shown.
    This is why we've already lost the war.

    I've been in several locations in the past couple of weeks, with a piece on my belt.
    Usually to get just one item.
    Also been in Michael's and Hobby Lobby.

    Only one woman said anything.. a compliment from a kindred spirit..

    I expect that 'non-confrontational approach' will change within a year or 2.
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