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CHAT Suggestions on new career path: Trades vs manufacturing
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  1. #41
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    Another idea from a friend's experience, heavy equipment operator. This guy was a mechanic at a small town car dealership for about 20 years. He was always' treated like shit even when he was the go to guy in the shop to solve problems. His wife changed jobs and made a friend with someone whose husband worked road construction and knew of a job opening. So my friend went from car mechanic to driving a D10 cat pushing scrapers in a week. Tripled his income.
    Was known as dairyfarmer but sold the cows.

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    Best way to learn new skillz ... have some "want to".

    Immerse yourself in whatever.

    Most people let fear defeat them before they even start learning the basics.

    How I picked up a lot of this-n-that ability, "Can you do (whatever)?"

    Probably

    Have you done it before?

    Nope

    Why do you think you can do it?

    Have you seen some of the dumbasses who make a living at it and the crap work they do?

    I guess you have a point.
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  3. #43
    I muse the trade schools are a waste of money if one is poor and needs work right away. Just get a job in the trade you want as a helper, but make sure your a registered helper in some states you need that. Anyway most states require 4 years experience in the trades before you can get your contractors license. However you can do it in just two years, they will except a collage accredited home studies completed two year diploma as two years experience.

    I had used ICS in 1987/1988 so by 21years old I got my license. Back then it only cost me around $500 IIRC.

    Here is a alike Home studies school...

    https://www.ashworthcollege.edu/area-of-study/trades/

  4. #44
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    You may find manufacturing like you did computers. Depending on your job it can be repetitious. Millwright and west have good points. If you can find work in any trade it will give you experience that may lead to a better job and you will learn what trades you like and dislike.

    I worked plant maintenance for eight years. We fixed everything from toilets to robots, air conditioning, generators, air compressors, electrical, piping, carpentry, lighting, erecting steel structures and things I can't bring to mind. It is not like being a millwright but it had the variety. If you can show the skills to get into such work you will find it rewarding.

    Trades will probably have the most demand as kids today do not want to do the work.

    I work on aircraft as an A&P and my job description is best put as continual learning, persistence and willingness to do new things. I think that fits with any job.

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    "18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness… 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened… 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts…" Romans 1:18-32

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    I drove through Wichita, Ks. Monday and noticed a sign in a cornfield (every sign in Ks. is in a cornfield. ) saying that there was some local job/recruiting event for an Airbus plant in Ga.

    Just struck me as odd that they were recruiting there.
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  6. #46
    Thanks everyone for the tips. Many of you have stated that things are different from state to state. Here in Indiana, our state funded community college is basically a trade school. They have numerous programs, but they also offer things like an HVAC certificate/two year degree, auto mechanic, and many other pathways into manufacturing.

    We also have two unions here, the IBEW and the pipe-fitters union. Both pay very well. The pipe-fitters union can be HVAC or other related pathways. The pipe-fitters union basically gets people jobs with larger companies like Johnson Controls, at least in this area. Also, the quasi public city water and gas company is also a union shop. The IBEW has a very well known training program here. The starting pay for the five year program is only in the mid-teens, but that is because so many people just are too lazy or incompetent and they bomb out. After a few years, the pay is into the $20/hour range. Through the IBEW here, you can get jobs doing utility work at various power companies, or work commercial or residential through various companies that are affiliated with the union. Additionally, both unions have an agreement with the state community college/trade school. Upon successful completion of the apprenticeship programs, you get your two year degree. Might have to pay for the credits, but you get it.

    My current situation is that I'm taking an intro class into the manufacturing/robotic arena. This class will get me my OSHA 10 hour cert (actually, just tested out for that) and a couple of MSSC certifications. I'll likely take the basic electricity class next semester, along with a motors class. I might sneak in an intro to welding class, if time and money allows. The community college posts lots of internship type jobs, from multinational companies to mom and pop type places. My goal is to try and land one of those. Since my public safety job has me working an odd schedule, with my time off, I hope to be able to work around sixteen or so hours a week. I think this would be the best as it will allow me to see what I like and don't like.

    Thanks again for all the suggestions and comments.

  7. #47
    A field that always has demand is Construction Inspection. It pays well and has a defined set of skills required. It's a highly mobile career with need in every area of the country or world for that matter. Your back ground in LE shows you know how to talk to people which is 99% of the job. You can do math... Can you read blueprints? That's all that is needed. Only a HS diploma is required along with a few easy to obtain certifications that the company will pay for.

    So I suggest you look into Precast/prestressed concrete construction inspection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackpine Savage View Post
    Here's a different one for you, crane operator. I have a neighbor that just became a crane operator instructor at a union trade school. Good pay, sounds like there is good demand, easier on the body than some of the trades. Downside in that it might be seasonal depending where you live, or you might have to travel to some jobs. The neighbor worked mostly road construction cranes, so it was seasonal, and here in MN sometimes he worked a couple hours away.

    It sound like the trade school he teaches at is pretty much funded by a big pipeline company.

    In a bigger city in a warmer climate I would think there would be steady work. Not sure how hard it is to break into.
    Crane operator on an offshore oil rig is a good gig, if you can get it.
    It's steady, year-round work (at least til the next oil industry bust) paying very well (100K+ is my impression).
    You're off work at home half the time.
    The repair work on the crane is done by specialists that come out as needed.
    You have a fair amount of free time on the rig (there isn't stuff to be moved via crane all the time on your shift).
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    Been in machining all my life and never regretted it. Never made a ton of money but always had work and loved what I was doing, which is probably the most important factor when considering a career change.

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