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WEATHER Signs of a harsh winter in Great Lakes area
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    My cat's winter coat has come in about two weeks early, and it's extra thick this year.

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    Here in my neck of the woods, we normally reach a summertime high of 96-97 degrees at least a few days each summer. So far, our high has been 92 degrees.

    Also, the local saying is that tomatoes aren't supposed to be planted "until the snow is off Peavine." There is still snow on Peavine right now (it was a heavy winter). Right now, I'm just hoping to get a ripe tomato before the snow flies this year.

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    Just going to throw my 2 cents into this. No leaves turning up here yet. Birds are all still here. Hummers are still around and eating at the feeder normally. We don't have oak trees up here so I can't talk about acorns. Haven't noticed the fir trees and cones this year. It's been a wet summer and the grass is high way too soon. I have noticed that the wild raspberries are not what they were in other years.......My blackberries that I planted did not blossom at all this year......

    We had a few weeks of really warm temps that I hate but the ac took care of that pretty much. But all in all except for the lack of berries, I am not seeing anything yet to announce an early fall. Next time I am out and higher up, I will take a look at the mtns and see what I can from there. Our birch and wild cherry trees are all still green...... Everything is pretty much green right now since we have had a lot of rain. Rained yesterday and the day before and so on and so forth.

    I am just not seeing what you folks are seeing I guess........

    Packy, as far as firewood goes, you can only put so much in your woodstove at a time. If we put more up we would just end up with a lot left over for next year or the year after. We still have wood from 3 years ago out in the woodshed.......it's packed full with another half cord stacked on the deck. The big bin we made for kindling is full...... Got it covered as best we can. And our wood guy delivers all year round if we run short, so that is covered also. That's all he does and runs a big operation. I was seasoned when we got it this year so it was delivered and put into the shed the same day. That's all done........Wood on the deck is from last year and been under cover so that's nice and dry.......

    I am busy stocking up the freezer with pork for the dogs. Been good sales on it so I am stocking up.


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    Good morning, Ain't.

    Sassafras sure is a pretty tree, isn't it? I got my sassafras tree from a nursery somewhere, probably from my friend's nursery. He had quite a few Eastern trees. Unfortunately, he passed. I think of him when I look at the pretty trees he sold or gifted to me. I do love it, with its three types of leaves and pretty red fall foliage.

    The thing that concerns me about the red leaves on trees as opposed to just yellow is that the yellow can be from stress and drought. Brown, crispy is easy! LOL Trees color up not because of temperature so much as light. We've had a lot more cloudy days this summer than normal, although very little rain and its been a cooler summer. So, is there something more about the sun that we don't know, or haven't been told? Another thing that makes you go hmmmm.

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    Here in NW Ohio has been in the 90's the last week and humid. The AC has been running! Supposed to get cooler tomorrow and next wee, low 80's. Been dry, a few showers here and there, but normal August here.
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    Leaves are changing here as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plain Jane View Post
    Central PA reporting. The Plant Doctor on WHP radio informed us that this was due to the extended heat spells. While true, I think something else may be happening. We had so much rain last year that there were farmers who lost all crops and couldn't access parts of the unless they were using a boat.

    We never completely dried out over the winter and by the end of June 2019, we were already 7" ahead with rain for the year. There are parts of my brother's farm that he couldn't plant this year. There is one section he had to plant twice.

    When I look at the condition of the trees around me it seems clear that disease is stressing some of them.

    Also, the barn swallows were flocking about two weeks early.
    We're close to six inches ahead for the month of August, not sure where we're at for the year. It's been a really wet year here this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meemur View Post
    My cat's winter coat has come in about two weeks early, and it's extra thick this year.
    Same with my NFC, aka the Hillbilly, I was surprised when he started his second molt at the end of June and started growing in his new winter coat not too long after that happened.
    People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe not willing to risk failure.

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    NE WV - decent altitude - this week is still mid-summer 90s hot; supposed to break this weekend after 2 solid months of it. Leaves are turning this week; wild cherries mostly. I noticed last week that smallish acorns were already dropping. We have a large pile of logs from last year to split; D started yesterday. I'll be stacking at least 1/3 more under cover this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meemur View Post
    My cat's winter coat has come in about two weeks early, and it's extra thick this year.
    (PNW) Yes, I noticed a few days ago that our dog's coat has really thickened up. It's not even September yet! The shedding will be epic at this rate.

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    Arrowhead North Shore of Mn here...underbrush is coloring, some migrations already. Go up to Hawk Ridge in Duluth, or sit by the lake, and you will see an occasional group flying southwest. Temp tonight will be in the upper 40's.

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    I live about 65-70 miles outside St. Louis. While Iím not seeing any early signs on leaves, our weather during the summer has been unusually mild. We didnít have one day that hit 100. We did have a lot of humidity but honestly, itís been a rather mild summer compared to what we can have. Hereís our long range forecast. Ití looks unusually cool for late summer. Itís currently 76 degrees with light rain.
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    Both of our dogs are blowing their coats, and our goats are getting their winter coats.

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    Ontario Is summer over? Tumbling temperatures give a taste of early fall

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    Thursday, August 22nd 2019, 8:00 am - Hint of fall in the air to end the week with some of the coolest temperatures we've seen since early June in southern Ontario

    A cooler, drier air mass flooding into southern Ontario may feel like a literal breath of fresh air for many as temperatures -- and humidity -- dip as we head into the weekend. While that will mean a break for the air conditioner, it may also mean you need to bundle up a bit if you have outdoor plans for the evening or early morning this weekend, especially if those plans include cottage country or camping. We take a look at the tumbling temperatures, but also when the sticky air returns, below.

    TEMPERATURES TUMBLE TO EARLY FALL-LIKE VALUES

    With stormy weather clearing out of the province -- at least, for a little while -- temperatures take centre stage for southern Ontario as an early taste of fall creeps back into the region.

    The cold front that sparked Wednesday's storms will send temperatures tumbling to some of the coolest weather we've seen since early June for Thursday and Friday. High temperatures on both days will only reach the lower 20s, with daytime highs struggling to even reach that 20įC mark for parts of cottage country.

    PACK SOME EXTRA LAYERS

    You might need an extra layer if your weekend plans will see you around the campfire in cottage country. Early risers may find it a bit brisk, too, with widespread overnight lows dipping down into the single digits -- some spots may even drop below 5ļC before sunrise in places like Bancroft and Algonquin Park.

    Expect more of the same through Saturday and Sunday as temperatures stay on the cool side of seasonal although with abundant sunshine, making for some gorgeous and fresh late summer weather.

    A TEMPERATURE 'BATTLE ZONE' TO WRAP UP THE MONTH

    While temperatures should start to recover to seasonal values early next week, it will be hard for any pattern -- warm or cool -- to take a firm hold on the region.

    "An active pattern is expected through the Great Lakes region as another round of cooler weather surges south into the Prairies and attempts to spread east, making this region the battle zone between air masses," says Weather Network meteorologist Dr. Doug Gillham
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    IS SUMMER OVER?

    Any sort of 'last blast' of summer heat will really struggle to lock in through the end of August as well with another shot of cooler air expected to flood in for the second half of next week as we head into the Labour Day long weekend
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    "While the end of August will bring a couple tastes of early fall-like weather, summer is not over just yet as we expect that warmer than normal temperatures will return after Labour Day and a warm pattern should dominate during early and mid September," Gillham adds.

    https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca...week-of-august

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    Note Canada uses Celsius not Fahrenheit for temperature readings.

    20C = 68F, 10C = 50F

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    We are in NE Minnesota, just southwest of Duluth. When we were out driving a couple of days ago, I was shocked at how many trees are already turning color! The last week or so has had cool nights so that might be part of it. We've also been lacking on rain for the last month or so. It's not drought here, but very dry. I think it's probably been the cold that has caused the leaves to turn.

    We haven't really gotten the August heat that we normally get. Usually August has hotter days than July, but this year's July was way hotter. These August days very much have a "Fall feeling" to them.

    Our dog just started shedding his fur a few weeks back. Really late for this year, even with all the heat. We'll have to finish getting him brushed out (he's a BIG dog!) because with these cold mornings, he'll probably start growing his winter coat already.

    I can't say anything about the birds or geese. We haven't seen any heading south, but then we haven't been particularly looking for them.

    We will have to get busy and get our firewood finished being split and stacked. I know we will have enough, just have to get it done. And get the rest of our winter supplies stocked up. And get the outside work finished for the year. We've had health issues for the past three months, so we're behind on getting stuff done. So much to do! So little time to do it!
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    Leaves are beginning to brown here as well.

    Here is a map of predicted winter weather and a map of glaciation during the last ice age. I have also included a vegetation map. Note, the west coast was a dry savanna.
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    North Texas.........it's FART-LICKIN' HOT
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    Was a downright pleasant August for a change, cool sleeping weather at night. leaves are starting early here too and the spiders are frantically weaving webs for winter. Two brown recluse spiders came inside already and got the swat. Acorns dropping green. Apple crop should be decent as it got sunny here after the wet start in June.

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    Southwest burbs of Chicago here (northern Illinois), other than this August has been unusually mild, not noticing anything odd. The leaves, at least in my area, are not turning yet and I haven’t seen geese flocking south which usually starts happening in a month or so. But yeah, the weather has been very cool this August, been in the 70’s the last few days and forecasted to be in the 70’s for the next week. I’m not complaining because usually August is miserably hot and humid, I just hope it doesn’t foreshadow a nasty winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illini Warrior View Post
    definitely an early fall >>>> the worst possible weather prediction there is for the farmers - they really needed a hot/warm remainder of the growing season that they managed this year - and it's not looking good at all - wouldn't doubt seeing snow in a month ...
    Agreed. In addition, we have a bumper crop of hickory nuts this year. Often, but not always a harbinger of a rough winter. The squirrels are going crazy right now gathering the nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus Prime View Post
    North Texas.........it's FART-LICKIN' HOT
    Now there's a new term, not quite sure what it means, but it is new to me.
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    NE Ohio here. Some of the Maples are already starting to turn. Are they stressed, sick, or is this a sign? Walnut trees are already dropping nuts and the squirrels are doing their squirrel thing. That's a little early. Geese are practicing there "V" flying with the young already. This is a tad early. The cacophony of night critters is very loud for this time.
    Hard to tell. In Snow Belt country, we either get clobbered or not. I'm laying in a little extra anthracite just in case. If It's an easy winter, the coal will be good next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus Prime View Post
    North Texas.........it's FART-LICKIN' HOT
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    Any Georgia or similar Pecan growing states can say how pecans are fairing.

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    Anywhere north of I-10 has bad winters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Millwright View Post
    Anywhere north of I-10 has bad winters.
    And promises to be worse this year according to the long range forecasts I have seen.
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    N. Alabama: I have been noticing the coats on all my animals getting thicker. But the tell for me are all the birds that are coming through early. No Canadian geese yet. But they over winter here anyway. But there are things I can’t put my finger I like trees turning yellow and such. Decided that it’s possible they were struck my lightening or have parasites. But the color doesn’t look like either of those things to me in general. Dog has blown her coat again and has THICK fur coming in. I don’t know, but there are just strange anomalies that make me think it’s going to be a rotten winter. Little things. Even as we are going through a heat wave. Have not looked at acorns yet. Need to go out and see. All I know is the deer seem to be in season to some degree. Don’t know what’s going on but the spidey senses are screaming “winter is coming!” Not too worried about it but still worry about dd and granddaughter. They will be in a world of hurt if it gets bad. Me? Staying at home unless I’m caught mid-shift. Lord, please don’t let that happen.
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    Not especially. I made a trip south (St. Paul) to the State Fair yesterday, and did see some leaves on maples and such beginning to hint color. Up north at home, it's been DRY. The trees are probably getting a bit stressed. I hope we get some rain soon...the 3rd crop of hay needs it. Birds and all seem normal. Animals seem normal.

    Yes, a pretty decent wild fruit year, and seemingly a good apple year, but that was likely because of all the rain this spring and early hot weather. I'm looking forward to some cooler temps. Already had nights down to around 43, but really not thinking it will get cool and clear enough for a super-early frost. Have the fall "bug" to get things done...canning, going through the pantry, maintenance and projects, but that's pretty normal. I love fall. Bring it on.

  30. My hubby and I spent the majority of the day out yesterday. As we were driving around, I couldn’t help but notice the sheer abundance of apples and pine cones on the trees. I had never seen so many in all my years in this area. What really worries me is the last time I saw apples and pine cones like that. It was the fall of the Polar Vortex winter of 2014. I’ll never forget it, because I had about 50 pine squirrels on my property chewing all the pine cones down. And I had gone to the farmers market and picked up a bushel of apples for only $5. The farmer had said to me they had so many apples, they were having a hard item getting rid of them all. I had canned and dehydrated for days back then.

    I’ll never forget how in Michigan, in the fall before that polar vortex winter, I had planned to do yard clean up and out everything away the first weekend of November. We had such a hard snowfall, and from there it never warmed up. Everything, from my hammock to lawn chairs, got encased in ice. It didn’t thaw until late spring.

    So we shall see. Again, we’re moving south soon, so that won’t affect us anymore. Thank God. But I do believe in the solar minimum. I think winters are going to get worse before they get better.

    Our low was 41 last night. It was butt cold!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jubilee on Earth View Post
    Our low was 41 last night. It was butt cold!
    IIRC in 2014 that area where you are moving to was hit by a nasty ice storm and then a blizzard which thawed and flooded. If this is indeed going to be another polar vortex year you may end up needed to buy a generator as soon as possible. It might have been 2013, I just remember my cousins, who live in the Sedalia area and points south of there, they were grateful that they had the foresight to install whole house generators and wood burning stoves, there were people around them with no power for days on end.
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    Last night ,here in Madison WI, almost all the ducks seem to have left lake mendota. Yesterday the ducklings were diving and frolicking in the sun ...and today they are all gone!

    Last winter was horrendous here.

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    It's hotter than the back side of Hades down here in Florida, and I pray for an early winter. One thing I have noticed, is that the squirrels have been going crazy on the pine cones this year! Also, we have leaves falling already.
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    Maybe

    God just doesnít like Michigan...

    Just saying,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squid View Post
    God just doesn’t like Michigan...

    Just saying,
    It would appear to have embraced islam... jus saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by samus79 View Post
    Southwest burbs of Chicago here (northern Illinois), other than this August has been unusually mild, not noticing anything odd. The leaves, at least in my area, are not turning yet and I haven’t seen geese flocking south which usually starts happening in a month or so. But yeah, the weather has been very cool this August, been in the 70’s the last few days and forecasted to be in the 70’s for the next week. I’m not complaining because usually August is miserably hot and humid, I just hope it doesn’t foreshadow a nasty winter.
    I take back what I said above. While out and about earlier today, I paid closer attention to the trees, there are in fact some but not many trees starting to change. Some of the trees itís just parts of the trees leaves are changing. There were a few pine trees with pine cones but Iím not sure when they actually start to grow pine cones, so Iím not sure if thatís abnormal or not. But itís not like when autumn begins and itís obvious that all the trees are changing, you have to look to notice it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TxGal View Post
    I'm posting a link to this thread to the Grand Solar Minimum thread. Great info you all are posting here! We've noticed early fall signs down here in Texas....that's about a month earlier than normal for us. Sycamore trees are already beginning to change color (and it's not the dry weather, we've got them along creeks that are not dry. Wild ducks have flown in and are congregating on our ponds before they head further south, and despite the heat we're noticing a decent cooler breeze in the evening.

    http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showt...50#post7389650
    I am seeing the same in my part of Texas (west of Fort Worth). I am expecting us to skip Fall all together and make an overnight jump from Furnace to Deep Freeze.
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    Right now around here things look normal and in late August the walnut trees are the first to start dropping leaves. I can recall some years back having cold spells in the last week of August and getting down to 40F and I think it was back in 2008 to around 2010 when that happened.


    EDIT ADD: we got jost over a dry spell and had some rain the last two days and things are cooling off for the next week but with temps within the normal range for this time of year and right now at 11:18 PM it's 59F.
    Last edited by Publius; 08-23-2019 at 10:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jubilee on Earth View Post
    I know itís still plenty hot where many of you are, but our leaves started changing colors about a week ago. Weíve had a crazy amount of acorns, and the geese and ducks have already started moving out. An old timer up here said heís never seen so many wild berries and apples, which he said is Godís way of fortifying His wild creatures for the upcoming winter.

    And to top it all off, itís quite chilly here. The next couple of days are only a high of 63 with lows down around 40. Everyone here is wearing sweaters and flannels. Weíre in northern Michigan.

    Anyone else seeing signs of a particularly harsh or early winter?
    I'm down in SW Lower MI. I agree with you, Jubilee. We may be a bit behind the North, but I just saw geese flocking two days ago. It's quite cool here, but we could get a last hurrah. I saw some fuzzy wuzzy caterpillars near the end of July and took that to be a sign of a harsh winter. That happened when I was a kid and that's what my Grandma said. Don't know if it panned out or not, as I can't recall the exact winter.

    I've felt down in my bones that it would be a harsh one this year since the 4th of July. Don't know what I'm basing it on, but it keeps coming to me. Early and hard is what I'm getting. I pray I'm wrong.
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    SW lower Michigan, everything appears normal for late August. One thing that I know for sure, we'll never know what kind of winter we'll have until until it gets here.

    Copious amounts of lake effect snow are always a given, ice storms are the most feared.

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