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    “Slipknot” (Band Name) fan dies after falling in mosh pit

    A 62 year old dude died at a concert, moshing away. I've been to some really crazy shows in the past, but I never been part of a mosh pit. I was to old for that even when I was young.

    Slipknot is a little to weird for my tastes, but they do have a couple of killer tunes out.

    Anyway, I put an example of what a mosh pit is, for those that just don't know. TB


    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...133526921.html

    The post Slipknot fan dies after falling in mosh pit appeared first on Consequence of Sound.

    A 62-year-old man died after apparently falling in a mosh pit during Slipknot’s “Knotfest Roadshow” concert at the Hollywood Casino Amphitheatre in Tinley Park, Illinois, over the weekend.

    Patch.com reports that Richard Valadez of Zion, Illinois, was pronounced dead at 11:34 p.m. on Sunday night (August 11th). While there is no official cause of death, as results of an autopsy are still pending, witnesses say that Valadez was knocked to the ground in a mosh pit near section 206 of the outdoor venue.

    Fellow concert-goers say that some mosh pits formed in the lawn section at the back of the venue, and that Valadez had joined in on a few of them. At one point, about an hour into Slipknot’s set, while the band was performing “Sulfur”, Valadez was apparently hit hard and fell out of the pit and onto the grass.

    “He seized as people were trying to help him up, so we start calling for help,” said Anthony Mackey, who added that he and other concertgoers tried to push back the crowd to protect Valadez while he was on the ground.

    Two unidentified men reportedly attempted CPR on Valadez, with witnesses saying it took 15 to 25 minutes for emergency personnel to arrive because of the large crowd, loud noise and general confusion surrounding the incident. “They definitely should have handled things better: More emergency presence for one. And a better way for people to alert that they need help,” said another witness, Brittany Ruel-Curtis.

    When contacted about the emergency response, Tinley Park Fire Chief Forest Reeder said, “The Fire Department was not present for this incident at the amphitheater as the emergency medical services are provided by a private contractor for any on-site emergencies.”

    Prior to the tragic incident, witnesses say Valdez appeared to be having a good time at the show. “He seemed fine throughout the concert, though, enjoying the music and drinks and talking to the people who sat in front of me,” said Ruel-Curtis.

    Slipknot’s mosh pits have proven particularly violent during this run of tour dates. At a show in San Bernardino, California last month, frontman Corey Taylor went as far as to halt the show until the band’s fans calmed down.

    The band’s “Knotfest Roadshow” summer tour, which also features Volbeat, Gojira, and Behemoth, continues through a September 8th show at The Woodlands, Texas.


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    I AM SO GLAD SUCH MUSIC AND MUSICIANS AND NONSENSE never appealed to me at any time in my life.

    Never been to a concert, never wanted to.

    Music (except Gospel and Country Music) doesn't appeal to me.

    Some people behave as if hypnotized under some rock and heavy metal music, behaving in ways they do not behave when not under it's influence.

    That video of a "mosh pit?" looks terrifying to me. You couldn't offer me enough money to be in that crowd.
    BTW- Never heard of "slipknot" band. I thought the old guy accidentally hanged himself somehow falling in a hole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ainitfunny View Post
    I AM SO GLAD SUCH MUSIC AND MUSICIANS AND NONSENSE never appealed to me at any time in my life.

    Never been to a concert, never wanted to.

    Music (except Gospel and Country Music) doesn't appeal to me.

    Some people behave as if hypnotized under some rock and heavy metal music, behaving in ways they do not behave when not under it's influence.

    That video of a "mosh pit?" looks terrifying to me. You couldn't offer me enough money to be in that crowd.
    BTW- Never heard of "slipknot" band. I thought the old guy accidentally hanged himself somehow falling in a hole.
    Thats cool, really, it is. Music moves people in many different ways. For some, like me, it's an outlet. It - music - can be interpreted many different ways, much like some discuss the Bible - but that is the only comparison I will make between music and the Bible.

    Try this video ainitfunny, I think the guitar chords - riff - is / are beautiful, and it's actually my wake up tune on my alarm. I wish I could play an acoustic as good as this.

    Red Hot Chili Peppers - Snow Hey Oh

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    Snow (Hey Oh)
    Red Hot Chili Peppers

    Come to decide that the things that I tried
    Were in my life just to get high on

    When I sit alone
    Come get a little known
    But I need more than myself this time

    Step from the road to the sea to the sky
    And I do believe that we rely on

    When I lay it on
    Come get to play it on
    All my life to sacrifice

    Hey oh
    Listen what I say, oh
    I got your hey oh
    Now listen what I say, oh

    When will I know that I really can't go
    To the well once more time to decide on?

    When it's killing me
    When will I really see
    All that I need to look inside

    Come to believe that I better not leave
    Before I get my chance to ride

    When it's killing me
    What do I really need
    All that I need to look inside

    Hey oh
    Listen what I say, oh
    Come back and hey oh
    Look here what I say oh

    The more I see, the less I know
    The more I like to let it go
    Hey oh, whoa, whoa, whoa

    Deep beneath the cover of another perfect wonder
    Where it's so white as snow

    Privately divided by a world so undecided
    And there's nowhere to go

    In between the cover of another perfect wonder
    And it's so white as snow

    Running through the field where all my tracks will be concealed
    And there's nowhere to go

    When to descend to amend for a friend
    All the channels that have broken down

    Now you bring it up
    I'm gonna ring it up
    Just to hear you sing it out

    Step from the road to the sea to the sky
    And I do believe what we rely on

    When I lay it on
    Come get to play it on
    All my life to sacrifice

    Hey oh
    Listen what I say, oh
    I got your hey oh
    Listen what I say, oh

    The more I see, the less I know
    The more I like to let it go
    Hey oh, whoa, whoa, whoa

    Deep beneath the cover of another perfect wonder
    Where it's so white as snow

    Privately divided by a world so undecided
    And there's nowhere to go

    In between the cover of another perfect wonder
    Where it's so white as snow

    Running through the field where all my tracks will be concealed
    And there's nowhere to go

    I said hey, hey, yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, tell my love now
    Hey, hey, yeah, oh yeah, tell my love now

    Deep beneath the cover of another perfect wonder
    Where it's so white as snow

    Privately divided by a world so undecided
    And there's nowhere to go

    Deep beneath the cover of another perfect wonder
    Where it's so white as snow

    Running through the field where all my tracks will be concealed
    And there's nowhere to go

    I said hey oh yeah, oh yeah
    Tell my love now
    Hey, yeah, yeah, oh yeah

    Songwriters: MICHAEL BALZARY, JOHN ANTHONY FRUSCIANTE, ANTHONY KIEDIS, CHAD SMITH
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    I absolutely love Heavy Metal. It helped me channel a lot of the aggression I had as a young teen through 20-something and it is still my music of choice, today.

    That said, I have seen many a mosh pit and had friends join in. They never came out without bleeding from some part of their body and my friends were not folks to mess with.

    I don't know what a 62 year old would be thinking to jump in a mosh? some are pretty harmless if you can stay with the flow:



    Some are not far removed from viking battles. Just toss in some swords and shields:



    Getting involved at his age was just stupid on his part but he went out doing something he, obviously, loved and there are worse ways to die...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ainitfunny View Post
    BTW- Never heard of "slipknot" band.
    Say, "Hello" to Slipknot...

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    Some are not far removed from viking battles. Just toss in some swords and shields:
    AKA, The Wall Of Death

    And yeah, he died doing something he enjoyed. Well, until the dying part anyway
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    So what exactly is a "mosh pit"? Looks like some sort of free-for-all fight? Some sort of medieval infantry assault?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowMan View Post
    So what exactly is a "mosh pit"? Looks like some sort of free-for-all fight? Some sort of medieval infantry assault?!?
    Teenage (mostly) outlet for aggression. It's mostly harmless, and meant in good fun, but, there have been instances where assholes have pushed it to far and caused many a fight. There are fights at a lot of shows anymore, and between the price of tickets and assholes I just quit going. I am a big, mean looking sumbitch sometimes and some see provoking me as a way to "prove" their assholiness.
    I do want to see Alice In Chains before I die though.
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    Goodness. I admit I ve been struggling with the need to release some pain and anger, but, that just looks nuts to me.... Even in my current mood, I would give it a pass.

    I thought they were where you jumped in and people passed you around. That would be weird too, but mabe a lil more fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jward View Post
    Goodness. I admit I ve been struggling with the need to release some pain and anger, but, that just looks nuts to me.... Even in my current mood, I would give it a pass.

    I thought they were where you jumped in and people passed you around. That would be weird too, but mabe a lil more fun.
    Its called, or used to be called crowd surfing, or simply surfing.
    And it can be pretty interesting.
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    He died having fun. WTH.

    Still haven't come down from my cloud after the Queen concert last Saturday night. Keep flashing back to moments of pure magic, powerful-unifying-therapeutic music, connection between the crowd and the band, beautiful sets, and the incredible effects. Got my voice back finally, though. That's why we do what we do.

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    The moshpit is for men.

    Men not afraid of contact and violence. But it is restrained violence. Nobody fights IME.

    Young men nowadays have such safe lives and very little chance to act masculine. No more boys are allowed to fight in school.

    Traditionally masculine activities are demonized by the gynocracy we all live under.

    This doesn't surprise me. Young men need outlets for their excess energy and testosterone (when present LOL).

    Young men are the risk takers. Some survive. Some don't.

    That's just how it is. ANd when you go into the pit, you know what's up.

    You're gonna take some shots, to the body and probably the head.

    That's the name of the game.

    Now we'll have some mom's group demanding that we ban mosh pits and that all young men should live in padded bubbles, like, uh, women.

    NO that won't work. Sperm is cheaper than eggs. Men have always been and will always be expendable in the bigger picture.

    Mosh on metal heads!
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    Moms have been demanding the ban of mosh pits as long as they have existed. Hasn't happened yet.

    Metal IS a great outlet. Everybody benefits from a little harmless mad chaos and free physical expression in their life once in a while, and funneling it through live music adds that powerful element of crowd dynamics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarok View Post
    I absolutely love Heavy Metal. It helped me channel a lot of the aggression I had as a young teen through 20-something and it is still my music of choice, today.

    That said, I have seen many a mosh pit and had friends join in. They never came out without bleeding from some part of their body and my friends were not folks to mess with.

    I don't know what a 62 year old would be thinking to jump in a mosh? some are pretty harmless if you can stay with the flow:



    Some are not far removed from viking battles. Just toss in some swords and shields:



    Getting involved at his age was just stupid on his part but he went out doing something he, obviously, loved and there are worse ways to die...



    hahahaha! exactly what it looks like sometimes! lol




    i've been in a few. not in crowds as big as that video in the op, but a few. i probably wouldn't do it anymore. i think i'm younger than you, man, but i can't do some things anymore. my dr says there are many things i shouldn't do anymore and is constantly annoyed with me that i still do them hahahahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarok View Post
    Say, "Hello" to Slipknot...



    oh

    hell

    no!


    i've heard the name, but never seen a picture.

    that is nightmare fuel right there.
    float like a butterfly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hunybee View Post
    oh

    hell

    no!


    i've heard the name, but never seen a picture.

    that is nightmare fuel right there.
    All lovely boys, I'm sure, once you get to know them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalknTrot View Post
    All lovely boys, I'm sure, once you get to know them.
    HAHAHAHA i'm sure!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalknTrot View Post
    He died having fun. WTH.

    Still haven't come down from my cloud after the Queen concert last Saturday night. Keep flashing back to moments of pure magic, powerful-unifying-therapeutic music, connection between the crowd and the band, beautiful sets, and the incredible effects. Got my voice back finally, though. That's why we do what we do.
    I go to about 10 concerts a year. The last was Carlos Santana and Doobie Brothers. It was a very enjoyable evening. No mosh pit in Tinley Park for Santana, though. I haven't been in "the pit" since the days of going down to 6th street in Austin. There, they aren't too big & violent. But that was 25 years ago....


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    Gee remember when people thought "I Love Lucy" was entertainment. (I always hated that show)

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    62 years old and in a mosh pit=DUMBASS.

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    I guess there is a time and place for antics like the mosh pit but geez...the guy was 62 years old! That's two years younger than me! Once you hit 60, you don't "bounce" like you used to and things tend to break easily! How much do you wanna bet he was impaired with either alcohol, drugs or both?

    Then the people there said that it took too long for EMS to get to him? Did they even look around and see the chaos surrounding them? Not only did EMS have to deal with the number of people but also the volume of the music and there probably was more than one mosh pit. They don't have an overhead view either to spot where the problem is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foothiller View Post
    The moshpit is for men.

    Men not afraid of contact and violence. But it is restrained violence. Nobody fights IME.
    Oh, yes they do...
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    I was there when moshing began. It wasn't originally called moshing. It was known locally in the NYC area as "slam dancing." It originated organically during live shows with the Ramones circa 1977. It quickly spread to other venues and genres, and the name "moshing" came later, from California I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunybee View Post
    oh

    hell

    no!


    i've heard the name, but never seen a picture.

    that is nightmare fuel right there.
    Oh you sweet summer child. Slipknot is nightmare fuel? You don't even want to know what they're doing in Finland.

    This is GWAR.



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    Oh, and the Finnish part? I apologize; that's a group called Lordi, seen below. They're actually huge in Finland.


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    The last live concert I went to was the Columbus Symphony Picnic with the Pops -- the wildest thing that happened was the fireworks at the end, while everyone stood up and sang the Ohio State fight song, complete with the arm gestures (O-H-I-O).

    That's as wild as I get at my age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meemur View Post
    The last live concert I went to was the Columbus Symphony Picnic with the Pops -- the wildest thing that happened was the fireworks at the end, while everyone stood up and sang the Ohio State fight song, complete with the arm gestures (O-H-I-O).

    That's as wild as I get at my age.
    Free concerts here in town on Thursday evenings are really low key, got to see Simon Estes perform this summer, he sang several songs from Porgy and Bess.
    People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe not willing to risk failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by packyderms_wife View Post
    Free concerts here in town on Thursday evenings are really low key, got to see Simon Estes perform this summer, he sang several songs from Porgy and Bess.
    On the list for next summer! I'm still working on the house -- not much energy in the evenings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meemur View Post
    On the list for next summer! I'm still working on the house -- not much energy in the evenings.
    I can relate to the not much energy in the evenings... we didn't even make it to an Iowa Cubs game this year, but we did get a concert in which I enjoyed! If you go next year be sure to let me know and we can sit together. Sometimes there are food and drink trucks at the concerts.
    People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe not willing to risk failure.

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