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    Ebola Is Now Curable. Here’s How the New Treatments Work

    I heard this on radio news. Great news if true.

    Amid unrelenting chaos and violence, scientists and doctors in the Democratic Republic of Congo have been running a clinical trial of new drugs to try to combat a year-long Ebola outbreak. On Monday, the trial’s cosponsors at the World Health Organization and the National Institutes of Health announced that two of the experimental treatments appear to dramatically boost survival rates.

    While an experimental vaccine previously had been shown to shield people from catching Ebola, the news marks a first for people who already have been infected. “From now on, we will no longer say that Ebola is incurable,” said Jean-Jacques Muyembe, director general of the Institut National de Recherche Biomedicale in the DRC, which has overseen the trial’s operations on the ground.

    Starting last November, patients in four treatment centers in the country’s east, where the outbreak is at its worst, were randomly assigned to receive one of four investigational therapies—either an antiviral drug called remdesivir or one of three drugs that use monoclonal antibodies. Scientists concocted these big, Y-shaped proteins to recognize the specific shapes of invading bacteria and viruses and then recruit immune cells to attack those pathogens. One of these, a drug called ZMapp, is currently considered the standard of care during Ebola outbreaks. It had been tested and used during the devastating Ebola epidemic in West Africa in 2014, and the goal was to see if those other drugs could outperform it. But preliminary data from the first 681 patients (out of a planned 725) showed such strong results that the trial has now been stopped.

    Patients receiving Zmapp in the four trial centers experienced an overall mortality rate of 49 percent, according to Anthony Fauci, director of the NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. (Mortality rates are in excess of 75 percent for infected individuals who don’t seek any form of treatment.) The monoclonal antibody cocktail produced by a company called Regeneron Pharmaceuticals had the biggest impact on lowering death rates, down to 29 percent, while NIAID’s monoclonal antibody, called mAb114, had a mortality rate of 34 percent. The results were most striking for patients who received treatments soon after becoming sick, when their viral loads were still low—death rates dropped to 11 percent with mAb114 and just 6 percent with Regeneron’s drug, compared with 24 percent with ZMapp and 33 percent with Remdesivir.

    Drugs based on monoclonal antibodies have become a mainstay of modern medicine—fending off a variety of diseases from cancer to lupus. But it takes many years of painstaking reverse-engineering to make them. Zmapp, for instance, was developed by infecting mice with Ebola and then collecting the antibodies the mice produced against the virus. Those antibodies then had to be further engineered to look more like a human antibody, so as not to provoke an immune reaction. Ebola infiltrates its victims’ cells using spiky proteins on the virus’s outer shell, so researchers screened the antibodies for the ones that did the best job of binding to those proteins. Block access, and the virus can’t replicate and spread. But compared with other viruses, Ebola is large and has the ability to change shape, making it difficult for any one antibody to block its infection. That’s why a cocktail approach has become favored, like the Regeneron product—a combination of three monoclonal antibodies generated first in mice.

    An even better solution, some have posited, would be to mine the serum of Ebola survivors and harvest the DNA from the white blood cells that make antibodies. That would yield a set of genetic instructions for making antibodies with a proven track record against the Ebola virus. That’s what the NIH’s mAb114 is—an antibody isolated from the blood of a survivor of a 1995 outbreak in Kikwit, DRC. Scientists discovered it a few years ago—they had been circulating in his body for more than a decade.

    With the WHO’s announcement a new trial will now kick off, directly comparing Regeneron to mAb114, which is being produced by a Florida-based company called Ridgeback Biotherapeutics. And all Ebola treatment units in the outbreak zone will now only administer the two most effective monoclonal antibody drugs, according to the WHO’s director of health emergencies, Mike Ryan.

    “Today’s news puts us one more step to saving more lives,” said Ryan. “The success is clear. But there’s also a tragedy linked to the success. The tragedy is that not enough people are being treated. We are still seeing too many people staying away from treatment centers, people not being found in time to benefit from these therapies.”

    Since the ongoing outbreak began last August in DRC’s North Kivu province, more than 2,800 people have become infected, with 1,794 confirmed deaths. It is the second-largest Ebola outbreak ever recorded. On July 17, the WHO declared it a “public health emergency of international concern,” after a case showed up in Goma, a large city bordering Rwanda. The risk of transmission across international borders remains high.

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    Very interesting. But... given the pricing for similar drugs being used in the US (5 figures per dose, unless I'm badly mistaken), just how/who will pay for these "cures"?

    And, given the massive distrust of medical professionals in the areas where these outbreaks proliferate, hiw likely is it that patients will present in the first day or two, when the chances of a cure are over 80%?

    It's very good news in terms of being able to treat cases in first world countries, although I wonder (aside from the cost) how practical/possible it is to produce the huge quantities wh8ch would be necessary if an outbreak ever hit yhe US or Europe.


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    First, it was never NOT curable. With good care, some people survived. Also, the article specifies that the drug lowers viral loads, but doesn't indicate that the virus is wiped out. I take that to mean that the people who survive and are "cured" are still carrying the virus in their tissues, same as survivors of the previous outbreakes? Someone please correct me if I have mis-understood.

    My conclusion is more that researchers have potentially created a sleeping giant, than a "cure." Do we really want scads of survivors who can later re-transmit a possible mutated form?

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    Sounds like survivors are carrying the anti-bodies. Not he actual virus. That's usually the case with someone who recovers from a virus. And carrying anti-bodies for 10+ years. Also good news.

    Yep. Cost. Still, the best hope is probably to develop a vaccine.

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    Ebola is relatively difficult to catch in modern nations, since it requires contact with bodily fluids. I am calling BS on this new "we can cure Ebola," claim. Until you provide physical security in Africa, and provide a clean environment, etc etc then nothing has changed. Besides, as AIDS shows, it is all about the medical corporations making money. Africa has a massive AIDS problem and it hasn't been dealt with, after over 40 years, since the Africans can't pay the thousands of dollars per year to buy the cocktail of drugs. The reason magic Johnson is still alive is because he has the money, and the reason multiple millions of poor South Africans have died is they do not.

    This so called cure means NOTHING. It is more spin control, misinformation and outright lies. If nothing else, when the NGO's attempt to move the drug "cure," into the Congo they will be attacked, shot dead, and the cure given to the highest bidder, assuming it actually works, which I do not.
    Doomer Doug, a.k.a. Doug McIntosh now has a blog at
    My end of the world e book "Day of the Dogs" is available for sale at the following url

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    All excellent questions. I was wondering if the med that they experimenting with in West Africa could be used as a prophylactic treatment for those who were exposed, reducing the need for the more effective meds.

    I'm hoping that our medical people on this board can give us some idea.

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    It has been reported that there have been several reports concerning ebola and colloidal silver where the results were promising, but big government stepped in due to big pharm and stopped it.....
    Following are two articles about this....

    Governments seize colloidal silver being used to treat Ebola patients, says advocate

    Thursday, September 25, 2014 by: Ethan A. Huff, staff writer


    (NaturalNews) Efforts to bring natural Ebola treatments to suffering West Africans have been squelched by the World Health Organization (WHO), which recently blocked multiple shipments of nanosilver solution measuring at 10 parts per million (ppm) from entering the region, leaving thousands to suffer needlessly.

    WHO officials also reportedly called off a trial at an Ebola isolation ward where local health authorities were set to begin administering the silver, which the U.S. government previously demonstrated is highly effective against Ebola. WHO ordered the trial not to proceed despite the fact that it had earlier voiced support for experimental treatments.

    Both WHO and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) have given their blessing to experimental therapies for Ebola, citing a lack of proven treatment options. But when it comes to using therapeutic silver, all bets are off, it seems.

    Authorities block small shipment of nanosilver three times
    According to the Natural Solutions Foundation (NSF), efforts to ship nanosilver into Sierra Leone have thus far failed. The organization has been trying to deliver a shipment of 200 bottles of nanosilver 10 ppm, and 100 tubes of nanosilver gel, to no avail. At this point, the shipment has been returned to the U.S. for the third time.

    "That parcel, shipped Air Express at a cost of $3400 to Sierra Leone on August 20, never made it out of Paris," reads an NSF action alert. "Air France has yet to find a reason for that. But it made its way back to the US again, apparently for the 3rd time without being delivered to Africa."

    People are dying, and bureaucrats are still playing politics with silver
    Formerly classified documents obtained from the U.S. Department of Defense (DOD) reveal that antimicrobial silver solutions like the kind NSF is trying to deliver to Africa have proven benefits in fighting Ebola and other forms of hemorrhagic fever. Research conducted by the DOD and several other federal agencies back in 2008 confirmed this, though health regulators largely ignored it.

    A presentation entitled "Silver Nanoparticles Neutralize Hemorrhagic Fever Viruses," which revealed exactly what its name suggests, was buried and kept secret for years. In essence, investigators determined that simple silver solutions neutralize viruses like Arenavirus and Filovirus, both of which are related to Ebola.

    Interestingly, the research was conducted with the backing of the DOD's Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) and the U.S. Strategic Command Center for Combating Weapons of Mass Destruction. The presentation was given by researchers from the Applied Biotechnology Branch, 711th Human Performance Wing of the Air Force Research Laboratory.

    But not a single mainstream media outlet reported on the presentation, and to this day its findings have been largely ignored by establishment health authorities. Sadly, this political quagmire -- nanosilver is an obvious threat to pharmaceutical interests, and thus is being marginalized -- is resulting in thousands of needless deaths in West Africa with no end in sight.


    Colloidal Silver and the Ebola Virus Outbreak Hysteria


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    The spread of Ebola is the big news now.

    And the news media keeps playing up the spread of the virus to Texas, and the possibility of a spead across the USA.... that would be the bad news,... but potentially good news is this: Way back in 2008 the federal government itself demonstrated the fact that antimicrobial silver is, under certain conditions extremely effective against Ebola and other hemorrhagic fever viruses.

    How soon we forget how shrewdly the federal government used the overblown anthrax scare directly after 9-11 to rob us of many of our precious Constitutional rights. We also forget how the news media later whipped up the so-called “Bird flu” hysteria, followed by the “Swine flu” hysteria. Through these manufactured crises, various departments of the federal government were able to pass new “guidelines” and regulations on the detention and quarantine of U.S. citizens.... These can now be used by the federal government to restrict travel at a moment’s notice, arrest and detain individuals, and even quarantine entire cities during a declared “national health emergency.”

    That’s why I agree with Steve Barwick and am extremely skeptical of the current so-called “Ebola crisis.” And yes, I understand how virulent and deadly Ebola and other hemorrhagic fever viruses are. I also understand that the federal government is now said to be bringing Ebola victims to the U.S. for treatment. And I understand what a threat that could pose should the virus ultimately get loose and go rogue in this country. But we really need to see the larger picture...

    Understand how psychological operations (psy-ops) campaigns work, and what the federal government stands to gain from them. The federal government absolutely loves it whenever they can whip up enough public hysteria that the resulting public outcry to “protect us” allows them to step in as “saviors” and implement more laws that violate our fundamental rights and liberties under the guise of “keeping us safe.” Not to mention the fact that the US owns the current patent on a possible Ebola virus pharmaceutical cure... So folks, this current “Ebola crisis” is indeed a massive psy-ops campaign. In other words, the threat is largely being manufactured and planted into the minds of the American public, through the federal government/news media axis.

    It is important not to get into fear about the things we see going on around us and understand the difference between Real v/s Realistic

    That doesn’t mean the danger from Ebola isn’t real. Quite the contrary. It’s very real, if you’re exposed to it. But what’s your actual likelihood of exposure? It’s virtually nil. Which means while the threat may be “real,” it’s not very realistic.

    Let me explain with an example you can probably relate to: The deadly, drug-resistant super-pathogen MRSA is also very real. In fact, it’s just as “real” as Ebola. But the difference between MRSA and Ebola is that MRSA is a far more realistic threat to the population of the U.S. than Ebola. We know that, because the FDA’s own testing has demonstrated that 61% of all meat in supermarkets is already contaminated with the deadly MRSA pathogen (up from 50% only last year). And independent testing backs those numbers up. Largely because of this, some 39,000 Americans now get infected by the flesh-eating MRSA pathogen every single year, and a full 20% of those infected end up dying – constituting more deaths annually than those caused by AIDS.

    Now that’s a news story, right? After all, you have a proven, deadly, antibiotic-resistant super-pathogen like MRSA contaminating 61% of all meats in supermarkets. And you buy that meat on a regular basis and bring it home to your family. Wouldn’t you want to know about that? Yet there’s not so much as a peep about it in the mainstream news media. Listen carefully. The only sound you’ll hear on this issue is crickets.

    On the other hand you have a virus like Ebola, which is largely endemic to West Africa, and which hasn’t caused a single death anywhere in the United States…ever. Nor has there been a single infection in the U.S. Yet the mainstream news media drumbeat about the so-called “Ebola threat” is absolutely relentless. And as a result, people are quite literally going out of their minds with fear over it. If you listen carefully, you can almost hear the mainstream news media and the end-of-the-world internet fear-mongers chanting, Ebo-la…Ebo-la…Ebo-la…Ebo-la…as if they’re actually cheering it on.

    Why the dichotomy? Why is there zero fear-mongering over the deadly MRSA super-pathogen, even though it represents an immediate, dire, realistic and already-proven threat to the American populace……while in direct contrast, there’s incessant fear-mongering over the Ebola virus, which has not so much as even been detected in this country?And Now for the Other Side of the Story

    Here’s the reality.. follow the money:

    Dealing with the very real threat of MRSA would cost Big Agriculture billions of dollars a year in sales. So if the USDA and the FDA publicly acknowledged the growing MRSA crisis, people would stop buying meat out of fear, and foreign markets for our beef, chicken, turkey, lamb, pork and other meat products would also dry up overnight. The entire U.S. agriculture industry would crumble. Billions of dollars would be lost. So while community-acquired MRSA infections are now absolutely skyrocketing, we don’t hear so much as a squawk about it from the news media. Nothing. Zip. Zilch. Nada. Pitch black silence.

    There are no talking heads from the FDA, CDC, WHO, or other alphabet soup health agencies making appearances on national TV news to warn the populace about the growing spread of MRSA.

    This is spite of the fact that, for example, some 30,000-plus hospitalizations of children for this deadly disease have taken place over the past few years alone here in the U.S. (which is double the annual rate of child MRSA infections since the year 2000).

    Why is there no outcry from the health authorities?

    It’s because the health and regulatory authorities have weighed the astonishing number of annual deaths being caused each year in this nation by MRSA, against the economic havoc that would be caused to the agriculture industry if they went public with this information each night on the national news. And the regulators say, “This is an acceptable loss of life. Let’s keep quiet about it. We’ll save as many MRSA victims as we can. And those who die, die. We can’t risk destroying one of our nation’s largest industries over this.”

    But hyperventilating over Ebola, on the other hand, poses no serious direct economic risk to anyone. The feds and their news media lackeys can rile the population up, scare the living bejabbers out of them, and convince everybody they’re our saviors if we’ll just let them “protect us” from the threat, which of course, is largely non-existent.

    The Real Question: What Will Obama Do? How far is the federal government willing to go with this charade?

    Would they, for example, allow a few controlled Ebola infections to take place in the U.S., as a means of convincing the population that the so-called “Ebola threat” is “real” so new restrictions to our freedoms and new laws for detaining people could be implemented?

    So with the vast majority of Americans now convinced of a coming medical apocalypse, what next? What exactly do the powers-that-be have in mind with the latest threat-du-jour known as Ebola? I find it quite telling that Obama has already used the so-called Ebola crisis to sign a new amendment to an executive order that would allow him to mandate the apprehension and detention of Americans who merely show signs of ‘respiratory illness.’

    According to an article on

    “Obama’s amendment allows for the detention of Americans who display, ‘Severe acute respiratory syndromes, which are diseases that are associated with fever and signs and symptoms of pneumonia or other respiratory illness, are capable of being transmitted from person to person, and that either are causing, or have the potential to cause, a pandemic, or, upon infection, are highly likely to cause mortality or serious morbidity if not properly controlled’.”

    The article goes on to explain exactly how ominous this new executive order amendment is:

    “Although Ebola was listed on the original executive order signed by Bush, Obama’s amendment ensures that Americans who merely show signs of respiratory illness, with the exception of influenza, can be forcibly detained by medical authorities.

    Although the quarantining of people suspected of being infected with the Ebola virus seems like a perfectly logical move, the actual preconditions for this to happen aren’t restricted to just those suffering from the disease.

    As we highlighted earlier this week, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has measures in place for dealing with an outbreak of a communicable disease which allow for the quarantine of “well persons” who “do not show symptoms” of the disease.

    In addition, under the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act, public health authorities and governors would be given expanded police powers to seize control of communications devices, public and private property, as well as a host of other draconian measures in the event of a public health emergency.

    When the legislation was introduced, the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons warned that it ‘could turn governors into dictators’.”

    At this point, the so-called “Ebola crisis” is a fabricated one. And the sooner we realize it, the lower the chances are that the federal government can take further advantage of it by reducing our freedoms under the guise of “saving” us.?

    You’d have far more reason to be concerned of a deadly MRSA superbug infection striking your household than you would an Ebola infection. You can come into contact with the MRSA superbug just about any day of the week – right now -- especially when you shop for meat at your local supermarket. What’s more, with MRSA all you need is a small cut or scratch on your body for it to go internal, induce sepsis, cause organ failure and other calamities, giving you a one-in-five chance of living through the infection.

    (But thankfully, colloidal silver cures MRSA with relative ease. See the clinical and anecdotal evidence presented on the Colloidal Silver Cures MRSA website, and in Steve Barwicks article “Does Colloidal Silver Really Cure MRSA?”)

    So your likelihood of coming into contact with the deadly MRSA pathogen is quite high. But your likelihood of being anywhere near the vicinity of an Ebola victim is just about zero.

    So please think about it. Ebola may be a “real” threat, but it’s not a very realistic threat here in the U.S. At least, not yet. The true threat at this point is the federal government and the new regulations being implemented to give the federal government the power to detain anybody they want, at any time, under the guise of a “national health crisis.”

    Here's some good news on Colloidal Silver and Ebola:

    What We Know So Far... Which, finally, brings us to the topic of colloidal silver and Ebola.

    Back in 2008, the U.S. Department of Defense (DOD) in conjunction with several other federal agencies quietly conducted clinical research into the use of silver nanoparticles against Ebola and other hemorrhagic fever viruses. And what they found was astonishing. They discovered that silver nanoparticles were highly effective against these deadly viruses, including the Ebola virus.

    They later presented their findings to federal health regulators and other national health authorities. But it was all kept top secret. The presentation was called “Silver Nanoparticles Neutralize Hemorrhagic Fever Viruses.”

    And the gist of the presentation was that silver nanoparticles displayed “powerful neutralizing effects against hemorrhagic fever viruses,” including Arenavirus and Filovirus (i.e., Ebola). This clinical presentation was conducted under the auspices of the DOD’s Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) and the U.S. Strategic Command (USSTRATCOM) Center for Combating Weapons of Mass Destruction. And the presentation was given by researchers from the Applied Biotechnology Branch, 711th Human Performance Wing of the Air Force Research Laboratory. In other words, those are the big guns, folks! Which is to say, those are the very people responsible for keeping this nation safe from outside threats like bioterrorism.

    That clinical presentation, made to federal regulators and national health authorities, was later summarized in a printed document, de-classified, and cleared for public release. But there was no news media hoopla surrounding the release of this information. Not a peep.

    And to this very day, to my knowledge, there still hasn’t been a single report in the mainstream news media on the release of this important information, in spite of the fact that Department of Defense researchers found antimicrobial silver to be profoundly effective against Ebola and other hemorrhagic fever viruses, under certain circumstances.

    Before we get into the results of this research, as documented in the published version of the DOD presentation, it’s important to note that one of the main tasks of the DOD’s Defense Threat Reduction Agency is to “anticipate and mitigate future threats long before they have a chance to harm the United States and our allies.” In other words, the researchers were specifically looking for ways to stop Ebola or other hemorrhagic fever viruses from damaging our national security. And the results they found when using silver nanoparticles for that precise purpose were strikingly positive -- enough so to warrant not just the presentation to health and regulatory authorities, but its later publication and public release.

    What Researchers Discovered

    The researchers tested silver nanoparticles of several different sizes and concentrations on infected cells in vitro (meaning, in the test tube). And they concluded that silver nanoparticles were able to neutralize hemorrhagic fever viruses inside the cells by “decreasing S segment gene expression and concomitantly decreasing progeny virus production.”

    Translation: Silver stops the Ebola virus and related hemorrhagic fever viruses from replicating inside the cells. And when there’s no viral replication inside the cells, there’s no spread of infection!

    The researchers had discovered the holy grail Ebola treatments. But they also discovered that neutralization of the virus by silver occurs during the early phases of viral replication. Therefore, they pointed out that for antimicrobial silver to be effective against Ebola and other hemorrhagic fever viruses, the treatment would have to be administered PRIOR to viral infection or at least within the first few hours after initial exposure to the virus.

    In other words, for antimicrobial silver to be effective, an exposed person would need to have already been taking it, or at the very least would have to start taking it within a few short hours of exposure to an infected individual. This is why HCL recommends taking Colloidal silver on a daily basis and many users are on the monthly plan saving money while charging thier immune...

    Another interesting thing the researchers discovered is that while an enzymatic protein called Cathepsin B has been shown to play an essential role in Ebola virus replication, silver nanoparticles work to decrease cathepsin activity, thus further limiting viral replication in the cell and subsequent spread of the virus to other cells. And by far the most interesting thing the researchers discovered (at least, to me) is that only very low concentrations of silver nanoparticles were necessary to prevent replication of the virus. This means that low concentrations of 10 ppm nanosilver appears to have worked better than higher concentrations of 25 ppm or 50 ppm nanosilver. This means there’s no need for overly high silver concentrations. Do not let CS makers and resellers try to tell you that because it is a higher pPM that it is better... this is nonsense and simply the opposite from truth. (Read more on this here) What’s more, the smallest silver particles tested by the researchers worked far better than the larger silver particles tested. This demonstrates once more that the use of very small silver particles is far more important than the “ppm” or concentration of the colloidal silver solution one is using.

    Simply put, smaller silver particles penetrate cells and tissues easier, and are therefore better able to get to the point of infection before the virus spreads.

    Here's a link to the printed version of the DOD clinical presentation, so you can scroll through it and read it for yourself. It’s technical. But if you take your time it’s relatively understandable.

    I cannot tell you what to do, or that this product cures anyting only becasue the FDA forbids me to, but read through and make your own decisions. Here’s What I’d Do in Case of Ebola

    People have written to ask me, “how much colloidal silver would you have to take in order to protect yourself from an Ebola infection?” And of course, the answer is, no one knows for sure. As I mentioned, the DOD research discussed above was in vitro (i.e., laboratory test tube) research. And while it demonstrated that very small particles of silver at surprisingly low concentrations could stop the Ebola virus in infected cells from replicating and spreading, it in no way gives us so much as a clue as to how much colloidal silver a living human being would have to take in order to achieve the same results.

    So being the person that I am, and one that refuses to get into fear over a thing because i trust more in God than anything or anyone else, I take 3 teaspoons a day. Indeed, it appears that to have the very best chance of protection, utilizing colloidal silver in small amounts on a daily basis would be the way to go.

    In other words, based on the DOD study, daily prophylactic dosing with colloidal silver before exposure to the Ebola virus would appear to provide better protection than dosing after exposure.

    But again, since there’s been no in vivo testing that we know of (i.e., no testing of colloidal silver usage in a real-life human being infected with Ebola, only in test tubes) there’s simply no way to know for an absolute certainty if regular oral use of colloidal silver would provide an adequate amount of protection upon exposure to the Ebola virus.

    Nebulizing Colloidal Silver

    Some people have pointed out that in the event of exposure to the Ebola virus, immediately nebulizing with colloidal silver (i.e., inhaling an atomized mist of colloidal silver into the lungs, using a device called a medical nebulizer) would be a potentially effective way to get colloidal silver into the bloodstream, cells and tissues of the human body quickly and effectively. And that’s a very good possibility. Why? Because just about anything inhaled into the lungs has a far better chance of making it into the bloodstream, cells and tissues of the body faster than oral ingestion. Indeed, were I to suspect that I’d just been exposed to a person infected with Ebola, probably the first thing I’d do would be to high-tail it back home, break out my medical nebulizer, fill the little basin with very small particle size colloidal silver of 10 ppm concentration, turn the machine on and inhale the colloidal silver mist into my lungs for five or six minutes. And I’d probably repeat the process every few hours for up to five or six times after praying, of course!

    Now all of that is pure layman’s speculation on my part in terms of what might work. I'm just talking off the top of my head. I'm no doctor. And I'm not "prescribing" for anyone else, of course. After all, nobody’s ever had to do this before. So use of oral doses of colloidal silver for Ebola is an unknown factor in terms of knowing how much to use, how to use it effectively, and when to use it.

    But based on the DOD research, it would seem to me that the key would be quick action utilizing 10 ppm colloidal silver with a very small particle size, and getting it into the cells and tissues of the body as quickly as possible. Even more preferable, the research suggests, would be to take a small amount of colloidal silver prophylactically (i.e., before the fact), on a daily basis, so it’s already in the body in the event of exposure to Ebola.

    One More Interesting Thought... Someone (nameless for privacy reasons) said that if he were in an area where Ebola virus outbreaks were taking place, one thing he’d do is wear a protective face mask any time he had to go out into the public, such as to the supermarket or mall. is coming out with a new Colloidal Silver mask specifically for reasons as this.. And he said he’d also lightly spray his hands and face with colloidal silver (Germ-B-Gone) at the same time, and allow it to air dry, as well. He farther explained “I'm asthmatic, and I've done this before as a precautionary measure when going out into the public during flu outbreaks, for example. I may look a bit strange but I seldom ever get the flu.”

    Obviously, he is a forward thinker. And it’s probably not a bad idea to take such precautions should you ever feel the situation ever truly warrant it.

    To sum up, at this point in time (August 2014) in the United States the so-called “Ebola crisis” is the modern-day equivalent of Shakespeare’s “Much ado about nothing.” While Ebola is a very real danger should one become exposed to the disease, the threat of exposure is not yet very realistic. In fact, the threat is pretty much nil here in the U.S. where all of the unnecessary panic is nevertheless taking place. The only thing this manufactured panic will serve at this point is the very real threat of the federal government stepping in and using the panic to institute even greater restrictions on our fundamental freedoms and liberties. This is the information on hand as of October 4, 2014.. who knows what will be next month, etc...

    As Obama’s old mentor Rahm Emanuel so famously stated, “Never let a good crisis go to waste.” The federal government is certainly following that advice. Compared to the very realistic threat of acquiring a superbug infection such as MRSA, the threat of Ebola pales in comparison.

    Nevertheless, should Ebola ever become an actual threat in this country the DOD report described above gives us some very good hope that colloidal silver could be a bona-fide first-line of defense if used quickly enough at 10 ppm concentration, and in very small particle size.

    Yours for the safe, sane and responsible use of colloidal silver,

    Anthony Reinglas

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    Here are a few more details. H/T Flutrackers.

    CIDRAP - Ebola outbreak treatment trial narrowed to two promising drugs
    Yesterday, 05:56 PM

    Ebola outbreak treatment trial narrowed to two promising drugs
    Filed Under:
    Ebola; VHF
    Lisa Schnirring | News Editor | CIDRAP News
    | Aug 12, 2019

    Global health officials today announced a pause in the clinical trial of four investigational Ebola drugs in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) outbreak region after an early look at the data found that two of the drugs—Regeneron and mAb 114—stood out as more effective.
    In other outbreak developments, the DRC reported 38 more cases since Aug 9, lifting the outbreak total past 2,800 to 2,831.
    Promising Regeneron findings triggered pause

    An independent monitoring board meets periodically to review safety and efficacy data, and at their Aug 9 review recommended that the study be stopped and all future patients be randomized to receive either Regeneron, an antibody cocktail, or mAB 114, an antibody treatment developed from a human survivor of the virus. The other two drugs involved in the original trial were zMapp, which in an earlier trial didn't show statistically significant efficacy but performed better than standard care alone, and Remdesivir, an antiviral drug.

    Earlier in the outbreak, an ethics committee in the DRC approved the four experimental treatments for compassionate use, and patients at all of the country's Ebola treatment centers have had access to them, along with safety monitoring. However, the formal clinical trial has been underway since November at four treatment centers with the help of the Alliance for International Medical Action (ALIMA), the International Medical Corps (IMC), and Doctors Without Borders (MSF).

    At a media telebriefing today, Anthony Fauci, MD, director of the National institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), said Regeneron was the drug that crossed the efficacy threshold, triggering a pause in the study. And he said the group recommended proceeding with mAb 114, because there were only small differences in the data between the two drugs.
    He said the findings of the study are a "ringing endorsement" that ethical and scientifically sound research can be conducted in an outbreak setting.

    Jean Jacques Meyumbe Tamfum, PhD, an Ebola expert who was recently appointed to head a group that is now leading the DRC's Ebola response, said he was grateful for the support of international partners, who are working in an extremely difficult setting. "We can no longer say that Ebola virus disease is not curable."
    Early data details

    As of Aug 9, the trial had enrolled 681 patients toward a total of 725. Fauci said mortality for Regeneron was 29% and 34% for mAb 114. However, mortality was somewhat higher for zMapp (49%) and Remdesivir (53%). He said results were even more impressive in patients who had low viral loads: 6% for Regeneron, 11% for mAb 114, 24% for zMapp, and 33% for Remdesivir.
    Fauci cautioned that the data are preliminary. He said the numbers could change, but that two of the drugs are clearly better. He estimated that about 15% of the study participants had been vaccinated and that about 59% of them were found to have a low viral load.

    Supplies of both mAb 114 and Regeneron are adequate for continuing to treat people in Ebola treatment centers and to keep the extension part of the trial going, he said. There are 300 doses of mAb 114 on hand, with more doses coming from a second production lot in early September and a second production lot with more doses in late 2019. For Regeneron there are several hundred treatment courses, and the company is committed to an uninterrupted supply.
    The study was sponsored by the Institut National de Recherche Biomedicale (INRB) in the Democratic Republic of Congo and the NIAID, part of the US National Institutes of Health (NIH).
    Implications for outbreak management

    Mike Ryan, MD, the WHO's executive director of emergency programs, told reporters that the WHO welcomes the results and he praised all of the Ebola workers, including the ones working on the infrastructure that allows doctors and nurses to deliver the treatments.
    However, he said the tragedy is that not enough people are being treated and not enough people are coming to the hospital. "There are outstanding results for people who seek care early."

    Ryan added, "Having effective drugs is fantastic news, but if we don't get to use them, that's a problem." A persistent problem in the DRC's outbreak is that sick people are staying in the community too long, often as long as 5 to 6 days after symptom onset, which reduces their chances for successful treatment and exposes others to the virus, he said.

    It's vital to get the promising treatment findings out to communities as clearly as possible. All patients will have access to the drugs, whether their center was involved with the trial or not, Ryan said.
    Latest outbreak numbers

    In updates to the WHO's Ebola dashboard, the DRC reported 8 more cases on Aug 10, 15 more on Aug 11, and 15 more cases today, putting the overall total at 2,831.
    Health officials are still investigating 326 suspected infections.
    Since Aug 9, 21 more people died from the disease, lifting the fatality count to 1,888.
    See also:
    Aug 12 WHO press release
    Aug 12 NIAID press release
    WHO online Ebola dashboard

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    If this stuff really works one of two things will happen (could be a combination of both)

    1. The drug companies will make their usual "deals" with third world countries and sell certain amounts at rather low prices to keep the stuff getting into the area and look good in the eyes of the public/other governments.

    2. They will refuse to do this (as initially happened with HIV drugs) and provided the drugs are not that hard to make once formulated (most drugs are not that hard, a few are) then places with Mixed Economies that are very poor in some ways but have First World factories in some locations will simply start making them and ignore the patents.

    That is exactly what started to happen with the HIV drugs when African nations simply declared "national emergencies" (which they actually did have) and contracted with places like India, South Africa, other places in Asia, etc to make the "generic" drugs at a very low cost, usually only a bit more than the ingredients.

    This was about 20 years ago and it utterly terrified the Big Pharma Companies who realized that if more nations did this they were up a creek and really quickly.

    So they "offered" to provide HIV drugs for almost nothing to the few really bankrupted African countries that had huge dying populations in exchange for places like India no longer making the copycat drugs (at least those particular drugs and at least at the time).

    My hunch is the drug companies will go for option one but try to get Western Tax Payers to pay for it, we shall see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by night driver View Post


    Break out the bubbly..... NOT!!
    Read the whole article. No, it's not a guaranteed "cure", but the survival percantage is one heck of an improvement over what they get with supportive care...

    The results were most striking for patients who received treatments soon after becoming sick, when their viral loads were still low—death rates dropped to 11 percent with mAb114 and just 6 percent with Regeneron’s drug, compared with 24 percent with ZMapp and 33 percent with Remdesivir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satanta View Post
    Texican, I would trust nothing from Natural News. I've seen too many times where they put out information they wish was True versus actual Truth or Information.
    This ^^^.

    I simply can't imagine facing a disease of the force and virulence of Ebola with Colloidal Silver. Yikes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Sunday View Post
    This ^^^.

    I simply can't imagine facing a disease of the force and virulence of Ebola with Colloidal Silver. Yikes!
    If it is all that you have....

    You would take it or probably die if you did not and you caught ebola....


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    Let’s see... 10 years to have a near-cure/cure for Ebola, but over 35 years and nothing for AIDS.


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    I don't WANT any cures for Ebola, at least not ones that get used in Africa. If the death rates there don't start reverting to the norm, a BILLION Africans within the lifetimes of my children will be trying to invade current remaining majority-white nations even more than they are now. As Kim du Toit aptly put it, in his essay "Let Africa Sink":

    "The inescapable conclusion is simply one of resignation. This goes against the grain of our humanity--we are accustomed to ridding the world of this or that problem (smallpox, polio, whatever), and accepting failure is anathema to us. But, to give a classic African scenario, a polio vaccine won't work if the kids are prevented from getting the vaccine by a venal overlord, or a frightened chieftain, or a lack of roads, or by criminals who steal the vaccine and sell it to someone else. If a cure for AIDS was found tomorrow, and offered to every African nation free of charge, the growth of the disease would scarcely be checked, let alone reversed. Basically, you'd have to try to inoculate as many two-year old children as possible, and write off the two older generations.

    So that is the only one response, and it's a brutal one: accept that we are powerless to change Africa, and leave them to sink or swim, by themselves.

    It sounds dreadful to say it, but if the entire African continent dissolves into a seething maelstrom of disease, famine and brutality, that's just too damn bad. We have better things to do--sometimes, you just have to say, "Can't do anything about it."


    Now, a cure for Ebola that gets used in the U.S. or nonMuslim Europe, sure, that'd be a desirable thing to have; hopefully we won't need it (and if we had sane immigration policies currently, we wouldn't much need it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    Let’s see... 10 years to have a near-cure/cure for Ebola, but over 35 years and nothing for AIDS.

    Might need to re-evaluate that, sir. We have MANY AIDS victims surviving 20-30+ years with no APPARENT ill effects with the new-ish treatment modalities. Actually, a LOT of HIV+ patients have dang close to the "standard" life expectancies and die of mostly OTHER things when they go. AIDS is no longer the "Kiss your family now and go somewhere to die!" disease it used to be.

    Part of that is it is no longer a "Lifestyle" disease. Too many folks who do NOT participate in risky behaviors are HIV+ for it to be seriously considered as a "Lifestyle" disease anymore.
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    Off meds, it’s still universally fatal, and has no “cure”.

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    So will these Ebola survivors also need meds for the rest of their lives? Suppose they migrate to another continent where the meds are not plentiful and these survivors become contagious. The downstream effects of this are a little chilling.


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