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ALERT TTOL financial trouble
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  1. #1
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    TTOL financial trouble

    Looks like TTOL is struggling fiancially. I know some were/are members there. This is NOT a neener neener, just FYI.

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    Wow didn’t see that coming. Sarcasm

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    Sorry to hear that!
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    Don’t they need to do a monthly fundraiser? Cuz that gets old.

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    So what else is new? Be up front with what you need to run the place and then do an annual fundraiser like we do and be done with it. HW has always refused to do that or even consider any ad's so he resorts to monthly begging and threats to shut it down and people get tired of it. Figure out what you need to run it and be upfront with people about what you need to raise and then run your annual fund raiser. Also consider a sponsor or two, we have them here and having a banner on top of the page isn't intrusive.
    What is the lake of fire? What is it's purpose? Is the lake of fire eternal hell? Is there any hope of escape for those cast into this lake?
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    Quote Originally Posted by K99 View Post
    Looks like TTOL is struggling fiancially. I know some were/are members there. This is NOT a neener neener, just FYI.
    I've been hearing that for years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warm Wisconsin View Post
    Wow didn’t see that coming. Sarcasm
    What a surprise! More sarcasm!
    "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."

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    I used to be a regular over there....but Randy (the owner) never did figure out how to run a forum.....so I came here, glad I did.
    JOHN 3:16 / John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you FREE.

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    I am surprised that the title of this thread wasn't "TTOL is Toast"
    We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth... For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it. --Patrick Henry

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    I used to hang out there but I turned into the same four trolls slamming cops 24/7 and just got to old. I do hope they pull out of it but I have not gone there in well over a year.

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    Forgive my ignorance and let me know who TTOL is?
    Jesus didn't just "die on the cross". He so loved us that
    It was God, suffering, bearing the sin, shame, guilt and punishment
    for every single person who had, or would ever live.
    So Justice could be preserved, Enabling Grace and Mercy to all who believe.

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    The Tree of Liberty


    I decided to go over there to see what it looks like these days. Mostly the same as I left it.
    Same bunch of posters there, same trouble makers, same threads started wanting money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thinwater View Post
    I used to hang out there but I turned into the same four trolls slamming cops 24/7 and just got to old. I do hope they pull out of it but I have not gone there in well over a year.

    Ditto. I don't even bother to check over there anymore.
    "I shall not be a victim. I shall not be a perpetrator. Above all, I shall not be a bystander."

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    Hung out there for years until the trolls and bickering became too much. You won't sustain a venue with handouts when every comment that's made is blasted just for the sake of being obstinate.

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    I too, spent time lurking there. Probably been 3 years since my last visit.
    "You are allowed to be disappointed but not surprised"

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    Funny how life often separates the wheat from the chaff naturally.

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    After they went full obama I have not been over there.

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    They made their own bed over there.

    When has it ever not been in trouble? I also lost interest in that forum years and years ago. I "was" a member way back but after all the carp, I just quit visiting.


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    Time to turn out the lights. Well over time. They lost me about 3-4 years ago.

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    I ask something like this almost every time one of these threads goes up, but I must admit I’ve never understood. How did they go wrong? It had to be more than one thing. Why don’t they try to correct those outstanding issues? It would seem to me to be doable with some perseverance. And I’ve NEVER understood the monthly fundraising model. Hell, once a YEAR is bad enough! I can’t imagine having to do it all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JF&P View Post
    I used to be a regular over there....but Randy (the owner) never did figure out how to run a forum.....so I came here, glad I did.
    same here.

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    The Tree Of...What?

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    In a few words..a small gang of mono-tone unhinged bullies interjecting themselves into every topic and running the show. Any opposition or fresh outlook?
    Abuse, then...Banned.

    They got what they wanted...an exclusive club. Problem is, they don't want to pay for their own bandwidth after running off the majority. Good luck with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalknTrot View Post
    In a few words..a small gang of mono-tone unhinged bullies interjecting themselves into every topic and running the show. Any opposition or fresh outlook?
    Abuse, then...Banned.

    They got what they wanted...an exclusive club. Problem is, they don't want to pay for their own bandwidth after running off the majority. Good luck with that.
    Isn't that Netflix' business model?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Snack Artist View Post
    Isn't that Netflix' business model?
    Seems pretty common these days.

    Still..it might be kinder to move this thread to the Corkboard or something. Just a thought.

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    I'm still a member there, but don't visit very much anymore. Still a lot of bickering, and most of the comments are Lenno's blogs. Everything is toast to the point that it's not remotely interesting anymore. The religious threads are awful.

    HW seems to have a problem with forum supervision. Anything goes, and trolls have pretty much taken over. Even to the point of one troll being a real white supremist who is condemning everyone to hell that isn't of the pure white race. She tried that with me, but I just left. Had my fill of it.
    Sherree

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBreeze View Post
    I'm still a member there, but don't visit very much anymore. Still a lot of bickering, and most of the comments are Lenno's blogs. Everything is toast to the point that it's not remotely interesting anymore. The religious threads are awful.

    HW seems to have a problem with forum supervision. Anything goes, and trolls have pretty much taken over. Even to the point of one troll being a real white supremist who is condemning everyone to hell that isn't of the pure white race. She tried that with me, but I just left. Had my fill of it.
    Yep, you are so correct, Lenno and few others run the show, and THEY HAVE RUINED THAT BOARD.....I am not a big poster on any board, but TB2K is run very well. TTOL is dying from what I can tell, and again, i dont really frequent a lot of boards for comparison

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    I was a member at ttol a bunch of years ago. Had come into a ‘windfall profit’ and was going to donate 10% of it (about 6k). At the same time one of the mod’s had a major problem, can’t remember what it was. Anyway, I was debating on if I should go half for her and half for the board, when she accused me of insulting someone (when it was actually a compliment). That told me to not give to either one, so I donated it elsewhere. Ended up being someone else’s gain, and the ttol and mod’s loss. I have no regrets.

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    what is the cost to operate a board like TB2K? have no idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by JF&P View Post
    I used to be a regular over there....but Randy (the owner) never did figure out how to run a forum.....so I came here, glad I did.
    As was I. It's been years since I was there.
    I don't want to. I'm not going to. You can't make me. I'm retired!

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    Quote Originally Posted by K99 View Post
    what is the cost to operate a board like TB2K? have no idea
    On average, about $5k/year. This year's fundrasier was an aberration because when I initiated the new software buy, I was informed by our admin that we were running out of disc space. I had to raise more funds (gag) to buy 8 double-capacity (of the old ones) drives.

    SIDE NOTE: The process to move to the new software, install the new HD's etc has begun.

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    Dang dennis, didnt know it costed that much. Kudos to you guys for keeping the lights on

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    I really don't understand why they try to raise funds all the time. It's bad enough that I have to do it once a year. I always feel like I'm begging, and that really bothers me. Doing it every month is something I just couldn't do. I'd need "guest fundraiser people" to do it for me or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    I ask something like this almost every time one of these threads goes up, but I must admit I’ve never understood. How did they go wrong? It had to be more than one thing. Why don’t they try to correct those outstanding issues? It would seem to me to be doable with some perseverance. And I’ve NEVER understood the monthly fundraising model. Hell, once a YEAR is bad enough! I can’t imagine having to do it all the time.
    Anyone who had a dissenting opinion was either banned or run off. Most of us ended up here. With the new board platform you should be able to program the annual fund raiser and not have to have that feeling anymore. You could even program one of those thermometer thingies that lets members know how close we are to raising the funds needed for the year. And label it member-funded.
    People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe not willing to risk failure.

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    No, unfortunately the fundraiser requires the "personal plea". If it were machine-generated, that takes everything away from the "personal connection." I'm stuck with it.

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    HEH.

    Quick cure.

    Bring INVAR back and walk away for 2 months.

    Problems solved.
    RULE 1:
    THEY want you DEAD.

    "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my brothers' children (and their parents) may have peace, and have NO KNOWLEDGE of what I have done."

    The BEST in Life:
    To CRUSH your enemies.
    To see them driven before you
    To listen to the lamentations of their women

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    Lots of us loved INVAR. As a member. But as a staffer, no way.

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    I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by night driver View Post
    HEH.

    Quick cure.

    Bring INVAR back and walk away for 2 months.

    Problems solved.
    Yes and TB2K would be dead in 3 months if INVAR was allowed unrestrained power as he was at TTOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    Lots of us loved INVAR. As a member. But as a staffer, no way.
    The down fall was the loss of Chicom. Although is Chicom brilliant, without the strong hand of a moderator he gets out of bounds.
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