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WAR Anyone got data on Hong Kong getting the Tien An Men treatment w/troops??
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  1. #1
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    Anyone got data on Hong Kong getting the Tien An Men treatment w/troops??

    That says it all. Got a cryptic note about rolling troops in last night.
    Haven't seen anything this morning.

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    There was this but ....
    https://halturnerradioshow.com/index...n-of-hong-kong

    And now this ....

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...-troops-gather

    Hong Kong On The Edge: Chinese Troops Gather In Shenzen; 100s Of Flights Cancelled Over Protester "Terrorism"

    Protesters flooded Hong Kong's airport, one of the busiest in the world, on Monday, forcing authorities to cancel more than 100 flights as demonstrators expressed their anger over the violent police response to protests the night before.

    Flights have been canceled, and China has reportedly called the protests that have swept Hong Kong terrorism.

    But the people will continue to fight for freedom.#FreeHongKong


    Amid the unrest, Cathay Pacific, Hong Kong's flagship carrier, has reportedly fired two employees and suspended a pilot for participating in the protests. The airline said over the weekend that it would 'comply with a directive from China's aviation authority'. According to the FT, Cathay's move was "the starkest sign yet of Beijing's growing readiness to make high-profile businesses choose between the protesters and the government. The company's shares were off more than 4% in recent trade.

    More broadly speaking, European equities sold off as the developments in Hong Kong created a risk off mood on a morning that was mostly devoid of data.

    Per the NYT, the protesters gathered throughout the day, first filling up the arrival halls, before expanding upstairs to the departure halls. Monday's protest is a continuation of a three-day peaceful sit-in at the airport which began on Friday. It bore none of the violence that demonstrations on Sunday night had, where police fired tear gas inside a subway station and charged at protesters on an escalator.

    Some incoming flights were being diverted to Taiwan.


    Noel Tse, a 29-year-old nurse, said she participated in the sit-in at the airport because she thought the police had acted to aggressively on Sunday. "As a member of Hong Kong, this incident is no longer a political issue," Tse said. "It is a battle between right and wrong."

    But even more ominously, over the border in Shenzen, the Chinese city that lies directly across from Hong Kong, Chinese People's Liberation Army forces were building up ahead of what appears to be a "apparent large-scale exercise," according to the Global Times. "Numerous" armored personnel carriers, trucks and other vehicles of the paramilitary police were seen heading towards Shenzhen over the weekend. That means the long-awaited military intervention from the mainland could be just around the corner - something that the Hong Kong people have condemned.


    Yang Guang, spokesman from China’s Hong Kong and Macau Affairs Office, said there should be a crackdown on violence in the city, during a briefing.

    Though a military conflict in Hong Kong would certainly rattle global markets. Remember what Steve "the Big Short" Eisman said last week. His biggest fear right now are the Hong Kong protests, which he says could endanger any kind of trade deal with China and hurt the global economy. "If things escalate even further in Hong Kong, that would have a real impact back on the global economy."
    Hwæt! Wé Gárdena in géardagum þéodcyninga þrym gefrúnon· hú ðá æþelingas ellen fremedon. - Listen! We of the Spear-Danes in the days of yore, of those clan-kings heard of their glory. How the worthy princes performed courageous deeds!

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    Link to live stream of protests

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e4juPPrdZYM

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    We are about to witness what happens to an unarmed population when their .gov crushes them like an egg. China is in a bad spot. They cant hide the carnage due to cell phone videos and they cant le this go on. The tariffs are killing them. I am sure nothing good will come of all of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thinwater View Post
    We are about to witness what happens to an unarmed population when their .gov crushes them like an egg. China is in a bad spot. They cant hide the carnage due to cell phone videos and they cant le this go on. The tariffs are killing them. I am sure nothing good will come of all of this.
    I have been surprised at how much damage the unarmed protesters have been able to inflict on the police force in the last two weeks.

    That being said....It’s coming to an end

    #Breaking: The situation in #HongKong can escalate in an military action from mainland #China. In this video you see military vehicles on the move towards the Shenzhen zone. The outskirts of outside of Hong Kong. China claims it is for training purposes but a will act if needed

    #Update: More of the same video uploaded by an insider of mainland #China, sharing video footage of military personnel transportation vehicles towards the Shenzhen zone, the outskirts of outside the city of Hong Kong. #HongKong

    https://twitter.com/sotiridi/status/...996825601?s=21

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    https://www.citizenfreepress.com/col...ong-raw-video/

    China begins invasion of Hong Kong (raw video)…
    Posted by Kane on August 12, 2019 10:33 am
    Categories: Column 2





    The Chinese government has begun moving troops across the Shenzhen Qianhai Guangshen Coastal Expressway Bridge into Hong Kong minutes ago, in a military operation to put down protests against the government of Beijing.



    Hundreds of military trucks carrying soldiers and guns are moving at this hour across the Bridge into Hong Kong.









    “The People’s Armed Police have been assembling in Shenzhen, a city bordering Hong Kong, in advance of apparent large-scale exercises.”




    Will Ripley

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    · 7h
    #breaking Chinese media published a new video of the country’s military run armed police assembling in the city of Shenzen, which borders Hong Kong, ahead of “large-scale exercises.”


    Will Ripley

    @willripleyCNN
    Chinese law authorizes the use of the People’s Armed Police (PAP) to “handle riots, unrest, severe violent criminal activities, terrorist attacks and other public safety incidents.”

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    “Chinese law authorizes the use of the People’s Armed Police (PAP) to “handle riots, unrest, severe violent criminal activities, terrorist attacks and other public safety incidents.”









    Army troops have now entered downtown Hong Kong





    Coverage from The Guardian





    South China Post







    UPDATE



    Footage from Downtown Hong Kong is starting to surface…


    ELINT News
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    Well it would appear things are getting a lot more violent in Hong Kong these days

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    Shooting at point blank range…


    Joshua Wong 黃之鋒

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    Riot Police fired bullet to protestor in railway station within 1 meter. Can anyone tell me Riot Police are trying to murder or not? They are just protestors leaving the protest zone peacefully. #HKPoliceState

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    Joshua Wong 黃之鋒

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    Let us admin HK is a police state. Riot police push down peaceful protestor on the escalator of railway station.

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    "[Why don't you] use your time and catch people in Yuen Long," one ethnic-Indian Tsim Sha Tsui resident of 40 years told HKFP. "The government is extremely one sided."

    Photo: HKFP. #HongKong #china #antiELAB http://bit.ly/extraditionhk

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    Hong Kong Free Press

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    A pool of blood lies on the street in Tsim Sha Tsui. According to SocRec, a protester was shot in the eye through the goggles with a bean bag bullet round.

    Photo: SocRec/online. #HongKong #china #antiELAB http://bit.ly/extraditionhk

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    Ryan Ho Kilpatrick 何松濤
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    Tonight we saw some incredible escalation from the police: more people shot by teargas rounds fired directly at them; teargas fired point-blank into an operating MTR station; and police disguising themselves as protesters to provoke fights and pounce upon people as they withdrew.

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    Erkin Öncan
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    Really? Hong Kong protestors singing US National Anthem? LOL

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    wilfred chan

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    "Stop pressing. I'm sorry! You've arrested me. My front teeth are falling out. I'm sorry!"

    A protester sobs in agony as Hong Kong police mash his face into the pavement. #AbolishHKPF now.

    [video: @HongKongFP; subtitles: me]

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    Joshua Wong 黃之鋒

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    More than thousand HKers sing Les Miserables' 'Do you hear the people sing?' at HK international airport with their calls for free election and democracy. Here is the Ground Zero in the war against authoritarian rule. That's the reason for us never surrender.

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    MANY vids at link
    RULE 1:
    THEY want you DEAD.

    "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my brothers' children (and their parents) may have peace, and have NO KNOWLEDGE of what I have done."

    The BEST in Life:
    To CRUSH your enemies.
    To see them driven before you
    To listen to the lamentations of their women

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    Comments to above:

    <AMY ,ore at lik:

    Old fox
    And ww3 begins…

    36-10 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 1:14 pm
    ConservativeMillenial
    ConservativeMillenial
    Please. It’s just the communist killing a few decenters.

    23-49 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 1:53 pm
    Donaldus Magnus
    Donaldus Magnus
    Upvote, but from now on it’s “dissenters,” O.K.?

    38-1 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 2:44 pm
    Jimmy Jam Jiggly
    Jimmy Jam Jiggly
    They qualify as decent people. I have tears right now. They want the freedoms we enjoy. I wish they could have freedom but it has always been bought with blood. I pray for the people of Hong Kong.

    1060 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 2:58 pm
    bob
    bob
    Yes, they want the freedom we take for granted. Never give up your guns.

    137-1 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 3:08 pm
    Pliskin
    Pliskin
    I second that motion whole heartedly….

    450 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 3:31 pm
    charles
    charles
    “Never giving up” comes at a high price. Ready to pay? I will, but not alone.

    120 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 9:11 pm
    fleabag
    fleabag
    More than this, know everything there is to know about war, guerrilla warfare, urban terrain, counter surveillance, etc.

    30 ReplyAugust 12, 2019 1:36 am
    toughterry
    toughterry
    I saw the film, ‘The Farewell”, yesterday; it is not a commercial film, but does portend the fate of Hong Kong metaphorically. It was worth the $7 to see it.

    90 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 3:21 pm
    Firebrand
    Firebrand
    Where can it be seen?

    20 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 5:40 pm
    terry zelk
    terry zelk
    They want what the democrats want to destroy.

    620 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 3:24 pm
    fleabag
    fleabag
    I hope they brushed up on their IED lessons.

    110 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 4:54 pm
    Firebrand
    Firebrand
    I have nothing but respect for them.
    And pity.

    250 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 5:39 pm
    BT
    BT
    coming soon to a city near you in what was us of a.

    210 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 7:20 pm
    Sun YatSen
    Sun YatSen
    That’s why Americans must not ever allow President Trump or the Democrats to pass Red Flag legislation which will be used to disarm you.

    360 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 10:06 pm
    Justin Stark
    Justin Stark
    It’s STILL “Communist Red China”; ‘Mousy-Tongue’ Would Be Proud.

    130 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 7:58 pm
    Karen Speight
    Karen Speight
    What about us decenters?

    10 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 10:19 pm
    NavajoNation
    NavajoNation
    But spell check is so hard…

    00 ReplyAugust 12, 2019 1:17 pm
    Renate
    Renate
    No. It’s China trying to manipulate our President to stop tariffs on Chinese goods. In the end, all bullies, ie Communists, resort to violence.

    18-2 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 4:51 pm
    Coalburner
    Coalburner
    Our Democrat Commies will do the same.

    180 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 9:16 pm
    ECA
    ECA
    Has nothing to do with Trump.

    00 ReplyAugust 12, 2019 2:28 pm
    Stephen Naoum
    Stephen Naoum
    You did not think the Red Chinese were going to let the mayhem continue for much longer did you?

    100 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 9:33 pm
    YogicCowboy
    YogicCowboy
    Uninsightful and ungrammatical: a two-fer.

    00 ReplyAugust 12, 2019 2:47 am
    big jim
    big jim
    it is reported they are loading modified paintball guns with marbles

    so if video makes it out it looks like pepper balls

    a pepperbag would have difficulty piercing goggles even at point blank range

    00 ReplyAugust 12, 2019 2:14 pm
    OldSaltUSNR
    OldSaltUSNR
    Tiananmen Square, 2019.

    Communists do what Communists do what Democrats do. Nothing ever changes.

    The tiny island of Hong Kong will never be free again. Taiwan had better get nukes, fast, because they are next.

    Then, the rest of Asia. Guaranteed. It may be 50 or 75 years from now, but it will happen, absent a violent Chinese civil war that overthrows and thoroughly kills the Chinese elite’s leadership families. None can survive, or the Communist “revolution” will continue.

    72-2 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 2:59 pm
    terry zelk
    terry zelk
    I doubt that it will be as long as 50 years, my guess is within the next ten years.

    150 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 3:25 pm
    Spurious Furious
    Spurious Furious
    It’ll be the day after the democrats take the White House

    250 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 4:04 pm
    charles
    charles
    The day after, Dems will align with China and FB/Google to suppress freedom in US and Asia. China will aid our military against citizens in the physical sense, and FB/Google in the online world. Within 24 months our lives will be unrecognizable from today–and with no guns, too–unless we get off our asses and fight from now.

    80 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 9:16 pm
    JON
    JON
    Well, registered guns. We the people have lots’o un-registered guns.

    50 ReplyAugust 12, 2019 12:46 am
    Ned
    Ned
    Two Novembers from now?

    00 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 11:16 pm
    Old Democrat
    Old Democrat
    And I’ll be 69. I love individual liberty and will be too old to be productive. Maybe the chi com’s will just euthanize me.

    10 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 11:07 pm
    Ke So
    Ke So
    And we will not stop it!

    0-3 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 6:28 pm
    Michael
    Michael
    Idiot. Hong Kong is part of Red China.

    2-44 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 3:06 pm
    OldSaltUSNR
    OldSaltUSNR
    … yes, just like Taiwan, and the entire South China sea.

    How is the weather there in Bejing, comrade?

    39-2 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 3:23 pm
    Free Kansan
    Free Kansan
    About as much as Peoria is a part of Chicago.

    90 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 4:51 pm
    Justin Stark
    Justin Stark
    Except When It Belonged To The British For 156 Years.

    60 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 8:04 pm
    Steve Kasian
    Steve Kasian
    The key word there being, “EXCEPT.” It is no longer; It belongs to China.

    20 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 10:01 pm
    Justin Stark
    Justin Stark
    Yet/And, You Still Belong To ‘England’: “The City Of London”, Serf’s Up!

    20 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 10:38 pm
    Old Democrat
    Old Democrat
    F. U. chi com!

    30 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 11:10 pm
    Mike
    Mike
    If US troops/agents “invaded” Kalifornia to support massive protests against the democrat Communists running that state…would you believe the same thing?

    20 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 4:37 pm
    Atomic Reverend Alexander
    Atomic Reverend Alexander
    Funny I was thinking the same thing…
    Only time will tell.

    00 ReplyAugust 12, 2019 3:15 am
    Ch Puller
    Ch Puller
    Battle of Ezekiel 38…..players all in position. Bible makes no mention of the USA. Something stops the USA from defending Israel. Could it be war with China?

    0-1 ReplyAugust 12, 2019 2:20 pm
    Darrell Michael Richardson
    Darrell Michael Richardson
    Yet liberals wonder why we have the 2nd Amendment and weapons……….

    1280 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 1:16 pm
    Northern Exposure
    Northern Exposure
    Yet bare in mind with out the 2nd Amendment liberals would do to us what the Chinese are doing in Hong Kong.

    830 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 2:17 pm
    downtoearththinking.com
    downtoearththinking.com
    no question about it and led by FBI, CIA and supposed law enforcement agencies for your own good

    430 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 2:28 pm
    Listener
    Listener
    Look up OBAMA MAVNI DACA for a ****storm of problems. Then they got the diplomatic shipping containers everywhere on top of this

    00 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 5:26 pm
    Boston bill
    Boston bill
    You betcha !!!!!!!

    30 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 2:41 pm
    BT
    BT
    Oh its coming anyway 2nd amendment be damned.

    10 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 7:23 pm
    charles
    charles
    But thats just it. Biden said yesterday the 2nd is not in stone. They will attempt to abolish it with or without Trump. Its coming. Will people fight or not?

    30 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 9:44 pm
    K9
    K9
    But it would never happen here in America. Our socialists/communists are so much nicer and more compassionate than the rest of the worlds. Plus they just want to help people. Really it’s all for the kids. /s

    460 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 2:21 pm
    patriot76
    patriot76
    For the kids?? HA HA if they don’t abort them first.

    30 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 8:56 pm
    Steve Kasian
    Steve Kasian
    IKR? They put that “compassion” and “inclusivity” on display every single day, as they physically assault law-abiding fellow citizens, and broadcast seditious and treasonous lies and hate over US airwaves, cables, and internet

    30 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 10:05 pm
    downtoearththinking.com
    downtoearththinking.com
    And that second amendment was deliberately given to protect us from a tyrranical government. Would the left and RINOs do this and worse if they could ? Something to ponder but it should not take long to come to a conclusion

    340 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 2:27 pm
    Shelby
    Shelby
    I know it’s rhetorical, but YES

    100 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 2:48 pm
    Coalburner
    Coalburner
    Sorry , it is not Rhetorical. It is a fact.

    30 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 9:21 pm
    Renate
    Renate
    Of course. Antifa is already starting it here. Observe the similarities.

    90 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 4:54 pm
    OldSaltUSNR
    OldSaltUSNR
    To the still free people of the world: “Ammo up”

    (… and if your national rulers prohibit you from owning firearms, your freedom is already half gone, and you are already in a state of civil war, anyway)

    14-1 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 3:58 pm
    Remington
    Remington
    This is brutal…..Now is not the time to turn our backs on the good folks from HK. I suggest we send in reinforcements. I suggest we have a call to arms for army antifa. Send them over there to take the point – show the locals…how it’s done. and be sure to record the event. I’d be happy to chip in on the airfare….one way air fare.

    90 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 4:03 pm
    OldSaltUSNR
    OldSaltUSNR
    If the people of Hong Kong can say with one voice, as one people, “Give me liberty or give me death”, and mean it, then they will be free. It will cost blood, but Bejing will eventually lose any battle with a free, unified, committed people.

    11-1 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 4:35 pm
    fthoma
    fthoma
    I’m looking more at the consequences of a murderous rampage such as Tiananmen, which I remember watching as somewhat more real news than we have now. A killing field would seal China’s fate economically as the world would see the rapacious hunger to dominate, as they are attempting to ram their 5G equipment on the world, capabilities unknown.This is a really big deal, Bros. With all the hacking going on would you want some kid to hack into your fridge or car, or, maybe your electrical power because the switch gear is Chinese with who knows what trapdoor is a hardware or software access to detail such as the state of your woodie of the moment, accessed by the Chinese?

    50 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 7:45 pm
    Peabody
    Peabody
    @Old Salt

    About a week ago, I saw a picture with a HK man (in the middle of a bunch of fellow protestors) holding a sign with those very words. I think it was one of Kane’s posts.

    May God protect these people from Beijing’s tyranny!

    60 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 9:01 pm
    Steve Kasian
    Steve Kasian
    They could kill every last person in HK and nothing would change, except that Red China would crack down even harder on it’s society. It would take a LOT more than protesters in HK to effect meaningful change in China. It would take half their multi-BILLION member population rising up… and that ain’t EVER gonna happen.

    30 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 10:08 pm
    bart simpson
    bart simpson
    have you checked the population numbers Old Salt. one billion mainland Chinese versus maybe 10000000 in Hong Kong. That is like Delaware taking on the other 49 states and the US army. Hong Kong is mainland Chinese and the majority are no where near rebelling.

    10 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 10:49 pm
    Free Kansan
    Free Kansan
    These are the spiritual partners of Pope Francis.

    The UK will not make more than a peep.

    Traitors all!

    3-1 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 4:49 pm
    flaart bllooger
    flaart bllooger
    tienimen squared.

    get it?

    190 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 1:22 pm
    MATT BRAUN
    MATT BRAUN
    Good ol’ hal turner, first to have this video up on youtube. One of the good guys in jersey.

    110 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 1:22 pm
    flaart bllooger
    flaart bllooger
    you like fbi?

    00 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 1:58 pm
    flaart bllooger
    flaart bllooger
    ps. i can find no other corroborating news stories to go along with this “invasion” across the bridge or into the city. and i don’t use google.

    the other footage is riot police, not pla soldiers.

    also, joey gibson, leader of patriot prayer, was in hong kong with american flags last week. not sure if that is old footage of him.

    10 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 2:30 pm
    Spurious Furious
    Spurious Furious
    Why wouldnt the PLA wear Riot Police uniforms? After watching the ‘riot police how can we think they aren’t PLA?
    A snake changing its skin is still a snake.

    50 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 4:12 pm
    noflake
    noflake
    This does not sound like going to end peacefully.

    290 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 1:26 pm
    RandyLee
    RandyLee
    things like this never end peacefully.

    210 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 1:29 pm
    Demsareadumpsterfire
    Demsareadumpsterfire
    We certainly won’t get the true story.

    170 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 1:45 pm
    ratrider
    ratrider
    We are next!!

    4-1 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 3:10 pm
    Gassy
    Gassy
    Open the Chinese internment camps.

    7-2 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 1:27 pm
    Peabody
    Peabody
    @Gassy

    So you’d have sided with the British in the Revolutionary War?

    0-3 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 9:05 pm
    Pops
    Pops
    Get your defense stocks ASAP. The law of unintended consequences applies even to communists. The more China acts as a pariah the more they will be treated as a pariah. Vietnam, India, South Korea, Japan, Australia et al will see the need to beef up their defenses.

    200 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 1:29 pm
    rub123
    rub123
    The first indication that someone is going to abuse you is revealed when they first try to gain control over you in some way. Just the element of control is itself abuse, because autonomy is necessary for the healthy life of any adult individual, and, when control is applied, the autonomy of the controlled individual is thereby destroyed in some degree. The principal indication that abuse is occurring is denial. Self-righteousness and claims of good intentions are often used as forms of denial, as in, “I’m doing this because it’s good for you,” or, “We cannot allow this to take place,” which is, essentially, “We are more powerful than you are and we know better than you do.” Denial takes many forms. Such excuses are denial nonetheless. Historically, the rulers of china long ago converted large numbers of the Chinese population into willing and active abusers of one another, as a matter of official government policy. This can easily be seen in accounts of how they use people.

    32-2 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 1:30 pm
    OldSaltUSNR
    OldSaltUSNR
    “The first indication that someone is going to abuse you is revealed when they first try to gain control over you in some way. “

    The first indication of this happening, is when they ACT as authoritarians to remove your ability to defend yourselves. This could be about private ownership of firearms, but it’s much more than that. For example, when people act to dd-legitimize your suffrage, the right or value of your vote, they are preemptively “disarming you”, by placing YOUR decision making influence into the hands of others. When they “demonitize” a youtube channel, or ban you from Twitter, for example, they’ve removed your opinion from the marketplace of ideas, effectively disarming and minimizing you. Whether they are wielding a truncheon or a an electronic keyboard connected to serves, connected to 300 million human spirits, the act, the way they wield their authority, is to the same ends.

    The key here, and of course, I’m talking about the American Democrats and all their affiliated organizations and corporations, is WHAT THEY DO WHEN THEY HAVE POWER. How they wield that power. George Washington was not considered “great” in his own time, simply because he was a revolutionary war General, or an influential politician. He was a hundred times what Ike Eisenhower was when he returned for winning the war in Europe, and the American people rewarded him with their political trust as President. Washington could well have been the first American King, but he chose to be a President of a democratic republic. THAT’S what HE did with the power his heroic actions delivered to him. He gave it back to the people.

    The key to understanding what Democrats, Chinese Communists, and the other tyrants of the world intend, is what they do with the power they’ve been given. Such authoritarians universally commit to the same course of action, they use that power to disenfranchise and delegitimize the majority, in favor of their minority, to prevent ever having to face a true democratic decision by the majority.

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    You are a wise man Mr. OldSalt.

    70 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 4:59 pm
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    “they use that power to disenfranchise and delegitimize the majority, in favor of their minority”
    Damn right!

    10 ReplyAugust 12, 2019 1:30 am
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    Yeah, like making it more difficult to get guns to protect yourself from the government, or like passing red flag laws! We have to make a stand here and now, or the result will be this violent takeover which is happening in Hong Kong right now.

    50 ReplyAugust 11, 2019 5:05 pm
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    All they have to do is brand everything conservatives do as hate (which they already do), put the word hate in the Red Flag legislation, take control of at least 2 of the 3 branches of government, and here comes what China is about to do to Hong Kong.

    We all need to repudiate this misuse of the word “hate.” The only thing that matters is what you DO. But to show how far the left is getting with this, try something as harmless as not using a leftist approved gender pronoun. It’s deemed “hate”, which, in Canada (bill C-16), is a crime, and that’s a 2 year prison term. Tyranny is all around us, and all around the world.

    This’ll make your blood boil:
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    Is the MSM reporting this? Not on a bet. The reason being professional courtesy between the MSM and communist china.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowlark View Post
    Is the MSM reporting this? Not on a bet. The reason being professional courtesy between the MSM and communist china.
    CNN and MSNBC have all had the Democrat candidates on condemning Trump for not calling an emergency UN meeting over the subject.

    I’m guessing you are watching Fox?

    I only know because of the waiting room today

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    China state media was the ones to “leak” the footage. I’m guessing to intimidate the protesters so the military doesn’t have to intervene.

    If the military goes in, expect the internet to be delayed. Like the 6 second delay on TV with their internet.

    The Chinese are highly efficient on filtering out uploaded content.

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    Yeah, this is all sorts of not good. I actually have a friend who was there on a trip of some sort and he's currently stuck at the airport. They're allowing planes to land, but nothing can take off. He says the airport is getting VERY crowded right now.

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    Here is an article from the Standard regarding the Cathay Pacific airlines employees who took part in the protests. The China civil av authority wants ID's on any Cathay crew flying into mainland China.
    http://www.thestandard.com.hk/sectio...=210600&sid=11

    Cathay warns staff as it hits heavy China turbulence
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    Rupert Hogg said any employees joining illegal protests could face dismissal. Bloomberg
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    Cathay Pacific further tightened the screws on its employees yesterday by saying that joining any "illegal protests" may result in disciplinary action or dismissal.

    The Chinese Civil Aviation Administration criticized Cathay Pacific last Friday for "posing looming dangers to air safety" and ordered it to give identity information on its crew members on flights that would pass through mainland airspace.

    Stock of the airline fell 4.85 percent to HK$9.80 yesterday, its lowest level in a month.

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    Cathay became the target of mainland aviation authorities after some of its staff joined the protests.

    One of its pilots was charged with rioting in the Sheung Wan unrest on July 28.

    Huarong International Holdings Ltd, China's largest bad-debt manager based in Hong Kong, told its workers on Friday to boycott Cathay Pacific and Dragon Air when flying on personal and business trips, Bloomberg reported.

    Rupert Hogg, Cathay's chief executive, said in an internal e-mail yesterday: "We are all obliged to abide by law at all times."

    The company has a "zero tolerance approach to illegal activities" and staffers who support or take part in any unauthorized protests may face disciplinary consequences or be sacked, he said.

    Hogg also wrote an e-mail to the media on Saturday, a day after the CAAC's criticism and action.

    Hogg wrote yesterday: "Actions and words of our employees made outside of working hours can have a significant effect on the company.

    "Inevitably actions of our employees frequently attract attention and would be treated as representing the company's position.

    "Our social media policy also makes it clear that you should not post anything that breaches privacy of colleagues, constitutes bullying or harassment or could bring Cathay Pacific Group into disrepute," said Hogg in the e-mail.

    The Lennon wall put up by ground staffers was removed as requested by the management.

    The mainland authority also requested the airline to bar crew members who have taken part or supported the protests from flying into mainland airspace.

    The airline should also submit a plan of stepping up internal safety controls and improving flight safety and security before Friday.

    "We will comply with the CAAC notice in full," said Hogg in his e-mail.

    A Cathay spokesman said on Saturday that two of its airport employees were sacked for leaking travel arrangements for a Hong Kong police soccer team flying to Chengdu and a pilot charged with rioting has been removed from flying duties.

    Last Wednesday, the carrier's chairman, John Slosar, said: "We certainly wouldn't dream of telling them [employees] what they have to think about something."

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlfaMan View Post
    Here is an article from the Standard regarding the Cathay Pacific airlines employees who took part in the protests. The China civil av authority wants ID's on any Cathay crew flying into mainland China.
    http://www.thestandard.com.hk/sectio...=210600&sid=11

    Cathay warns staff as it hits heavy China turbulence
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    Rupert Hogg said any employees joining illegal protests could face dismissal. Bloomberg
    Rupert Hogg said any employees joining illegal protests could face dismissal. Bloomberg
    Daphne Li

    Cathay Pacific further tightened the screws on its employees yesterday by saying that joining any "illegal protests" may result in disciplinary action or dismissal.

    The Chinese Civil Aviation Administration criticized Cathay Pacific last Friday for "posing looming dangers to air safety" and ordered it to give identity information on its crew members on flights that would pass through mainland airspace.

    Stock of the airline fell 4.85 percent to HK$9.80 yesterday, its lowest level in a month.

    TS Channel

    More>>
    Cathay became the target of mainland aviation authorities after some of its staff joined the protests.

    One of its pilots was charged with rioting in the Sheung Wan unrest on July 28.

    Huarong International Holdings Ltd, China's largest bad-debt manager based in Hong Kong, told its workers on Friday to boycott Cathay Pacific and Dragon Air when flying on personal and business trips, Bloomberg reported.

    Rupert Hogg, Cathay's chief executive, said in an internal e-mail yesterday: "We are all obliged to abide by law at all times."

    The company has a "zero tolerance approach to illegal activities" and staffers who support or take part in any unauthorized protests may face disciplinary consequences or be sacked, he said.

    Hogg also wrote an e-mail to the media on Saturday, a day after the CAAC's criticism and action.

    Hogg wrote yesterday: "Actions and words of our employees made outside of working hours can have a significant effect on the company.

    "Inevitably actions of our employees frequently attract attention and would be treated as representing the company's position.

    "Our social media policy also makes it clear that you should not post anything that breaches privacy of colleagues, constitutes bullying or harassment or could bring Cathay Pacific Group into disrepute," said Hogg in the e-mail.

    The Lennon wall put up by ground staffers was removed as requested by the management.

    The mainland authority also requested the airline to bar crew members who have taken part or supported the protests from flying into mainland airspace.

    The airline should also submit a plan of stepping up internal safety controls and improving flight safety and security before Friday.

    "We will comply with the CAAC notice in full," said Hogg in his e-mail.

    A Cathay spokesman said on Saturday that two of its airport employees were sacked for leaking travel arrangements for a Hong Kong police soccer team flying to Chengdu and a pilot charged with rioting has been removed from flying duties.

    Last Wednesday, the carrier's chairman, John Slosar, said: "We certainly wouldn't dream of telling them [employees] what they have to think about something."
    Just another example of the "one state two systems" illusion falling apart....

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    An emailed link I received last night (Yesterday USA time) from thegatewaypundit site, showing large numbers of trucks entering the border crossing into Hong Kong/ Kowloon regions from the North of same - scroll down for several videos.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...-forces-video/
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    check this for photos & video clips

    https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/

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    I think this will be an '89 redo. I remember it well. Its the Chicom way. Sad.

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    All live views are not working. This does not look good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomifyle View Post
    I think this will be an '89 redo. I remember it well. Its the Chicom way. Sad.

    Judy
    It is going to be much worse

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    With the airport closed again today and the troops taking an aggressive stance against the protesters there; methinks the HK situation is going to be resolved very soon. And very violently.

    The ChiComs have been mentioning the protesters were "terrorists" in the media for two days now. Basically they're trying to engineer the perception the protesters ARE terrorists to the public. Which means explaining the coming violent crackdown will be smoother and easier to the public.

    I fully support the Hong Kong protesters-Carrie Lam is nothing more than the head of a Chinese Vichy style government with the strings being pulled, hard, by Beijing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlfaMan View Post
    With the airport closed again today and the troops taking an aggressive stance against the protesters there; methinks the HK situation is going to be resolved very soon. And very violently.

    The ChiComs have been mentioning the protesters were "terrorists" in the media for two days now. Basically they're trying to engineer the perception the protesters ARE terrorists to the public. Which means explaining the coming violent crackdown will be smoother and easier to the public.

    I fully support the Hong Kong protesters-Carrie Lam is nothing more than the head of a Chinese Vichy style government with the strings being pulled, hard, by Beijing.
    If 89 is any indication, this time around is going to be a lot worse with a lot more likelihood of video records of the event being collected.

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    Reuters
    TUE AUG 13, 2019 / 12:27 PM EDT
    China tells U.S. to back off after lawmakers condemn Hong Kong violence



    (Reuters) - China's foreign ministry on Tuesday told the United States to stay out of its internal affairs after some U.S. lawmakers, including House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi, condemned what they called acts of violence by police against protesters in Hong Kong.

    The United States has denied Chinese suggestions that it has a hand in the unrest. But China's foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said the lawmakers' comments have "provided new and powerful evidence to the world".

    "They have disregarded the facts, turned what's black into white, and characterized violent crimes as a beautiful fight for human rights and freedom," Hua said in a statement.


    Hong Kong has been beset by often violent anti-government protests for the past nine weeks in the deepest political crisis for the territory since it was returned from British to Chinese rule in 1997.

    "You should take care of your own business. HK is not a matter that needs your worrying," Hua said in the statement.


    https://t.co/fdM9reqPyy?amp=1

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    China's foreign ministry on Tuesday told the United States to stay out of its internal affairs
    Maybe they should stay out of our elections then........
    III

    Keep ignoring my rights and I'll keep ignoring your laws.

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    The US would be just as aggressive at this point. The future is still to be determined.

    Ther US police force would be just as aggressive if 10,000 people would have crossed the tsa line in Atlanta.

    Do you really think they would have stood by idle if Atlanta was shut down for 48 hours?



    Quote Originally Posted by AlfaMan View Post
    With the airport closed again today and the troops taking an aggressive stance against the protesters there; methinks the HK situation is going to be resolved very soon. And very violently.

    The ChiComs have been mentioning the protesters were "terrorists" in the media for two days now. Basically they're trying to engineer the perception the protesters ARE terrorists to the public. Which means explaining the coming violent crackdown will be smoother and easier to the public.

    I fully support the Hong Kong protesters-Carrie Lam is nothing more than the head of a Chinese Vichy style government with the strings being pulled, hard, by Beijing.

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    August 14, 2019 - 06:49 PM EDT
    Top Trump adviser warns China over Hong Kong crackdown




    President Trump's national security adviser on Wednesday warned the Chinese government against any potential crackdown on protesters in Hong Kong amid escalating clashes between demonstrators and police forces in the region.

    "The Chinese have to look very carefully at the steps they take because people in America remember Tiananmen Square," John Bolton told Voice of America's Greta Van Susteren, referencing the 1989 student-led protests in China.

    "They remember the picture of the man standing in front of the line of tanks," he continued. "They remember the Statue of Liberty, they remember the voices of the Chinese people asking for freedom and democracy, and they remember the repression of the Chinese government in 1989.

    "It would be a big mistake to create a new memory like that in Hong Kong," he added.



    Bolton's warning comes as the Chinese government gathered military personnel and equipment near Hong Kong, where mass protests have persisted for weeks.

    The demonstrations began in response to a since-suspended bill that would allow some citizens to be extradited to China. The protests have grown increasingly tense and turned violent at times, with photos and videos of bloodied protesters circulating on social media following clashes with armed riot police.

    President Trump has largely avoided weighing in directly on the matter. He said Tuesday that he's hopeful the tensions can be resolved peacefully , but offered no direct warning to China about any potential crackdown on protesters.



    In a tweet Wednesday evening, he said he would wait to reach a trade deal with China while the government first dealt "humanely" with the protests in Hong Kong.

    The president's reluctance to speak out against Beijing stands in contrast with Republican and Democratic leaders in Congress who have issued statements in support of the protesters.

    Bolton said Wednesday that any sign of aggression from the Chinese government would prompt blowback from the U.S. Congress.

    "The mood in congress is very volatile at this point and a misstep by the Chinese government, I think, would cause an explosion on Capitol Hill," he said.


    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...YY4-R2&ampcf=1

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    URGENT: Trump pushes President #Xi to 'quickly and humanely solve the #HongKong problem' (link: https://sptnkne.ws/8WWD) sptnkne.ws/8WWD

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    Hong Kong: Military warns ‘we can hit airport in 10 minutes’

    Beijing warns: we can hit Hong Kong in 10 minutes
    theaustralian.com.au
    7:11 PM · Aug 14, 2019

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    The Australian
    Thursday, August 15, 2019



    Hong Kong: Military warns ‘we can hit airport in 10 minutes’

    A satellite image captured on Monday appears to show Chinese security force vehicles inside the Shenzen Bay Sports Center in the southern China.
    By AGENCIES
    5 MINUTES AGO AUGUST 15, 20194

    Beijing has given Hong Kong protesters its most explicit warning yet, with military commanders warning: “It takes 10 minutes from Shenzhen ... to Hong Kong airport.”

    The east command of the China military gave the warning as the US State Department said it was “deeply concerned” by reports of China troop movement along the Hong Kong border, with a US congressional committee vowing “swift consequences” for any military crackdown.

    Overnight, satellite images were published showing dozens of armoured vehicles gathered inside a stadium in the southern Chinese city of Shenzhen, across the harbour from Hong Kong in a possible sign Beijing is poised to use force against pro-democracy protesters.

    The east command of the Chinese military posted one of the photographs online along with a warning: “It takes ten minutes to reach Hong Kong from the Chunjian stadium near the Bay of Shenzhen, and it is 56 kilometres from the Hong Kong airport.”


    Its statement cited several Chinese laws that could permit a military deployment in Hong Kong.

    The harshest rhetoric from Beijing began yesterday morning, with the political office in Hong Kong condemning the protesters over the detention and assault of the two Chinese citizens at the airport, one of whom was a reporter for the state-run Global Times newspaper. “Such savage acts disregard the law, violate human rights, are devoid of humanity and are far beyond the bottom line of civilisation,” it said. “They are no different from those of terrorists.”
    https://t.co/VS5vfAdg7m?amp=1

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    These congress Critters need to remember that THEY do NOT SPEAK for the United States.

    ONE person BY STATUTE speaks for the US. That person is the SITTING CURRENT POTUS, not the last guy, not the loser of the last election, the CURRENT SITTING POTUS. Period. FULL STOP!

    NOW, as long as they REMEMBER this, and indicate that they UNDERSTAND this they can say whatever drivel they want.

    When I was the ASSISTANT CHIEF of my organization I could say ANYTHING I WANTED because it was my CHIEF who mattered. When I took THAT post you best believe my approach changed QUITE RIKKI-TIK!!!

    I ended up turning the inside of my mouth into hamburger biting it so much for a month or so until I figured out how to play the "Challenge up, support down" game.


    They need to remember that they are NOT POTUS and thus DO NOT speak for the (F)USofA.
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    I don't think TSA or police would use guns and tanks to clear the concourses. Tear gas, non lethal stuff yes.
    The protesters would be brought up on charges, but they would have due process...

    The Chinese are bringing in line units to counter the HK protesters. The line units have zero riot training but plenty of combat training. And the protesters they catch aren't going to trial; they will be going to the ChiCom equivalent of the gulag. Or sending them to the Ughur concentration campe in the NW area of China. Due process will probably be charging the families of the protesters they catch, imprison and execute for the bullets used to kill them. This is common in Chinese executions; to charge the families for the bullets used to kill their loved ones.

    Quote Originally Posted by Warm Wisconsin View Post
    The US would be just as aggressive at this point. The future is still to be determined.

    Ther US police force would be just as aggressive if 10,000 people would have crossed the tsa line in Atlanta.

    Do you really think they would have stood by idle if Atlanta was shut down for 48 hours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlfaMan View Post
    I don't think TSA or police would use guns and tanks to clear the concourses. Tear gas, non lethal stuff yes.
    The protesters would be brought up on charges, but they would have due process...

    The Chinese are bringing in line units to counter the HK protesters. The line units have zero riot training but plenty of combat training. And the protesters they catch aren't going to trial; they will be going to the ChiCom equivalent of the gulag. Or sending them to the Ughur concentration campe in the NW area of China. Due process will probably be charging the families of the protesters they catch, imprison and execute for the bullets used to kill them. This is common in Chinese executions; to charge the families for the bullets used to kill their loved ones.
    Like I said - up to this point - future actions still to be seen - China or HK haven’t even tear gassed the protesters yet. They have threatened more but haven’t done so to this point

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