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    Schumer Moves To Make It Illegal To Own Body Armor

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    About time. Body armor has killed a lot of people and saving lives is the goal of the left. Next he will want to ban fingers because fingers have pulled more triggers than anything else and are a weapon of war.

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    Consider the source, this is from an idiot who wants to ban firearms, but has armed security. Just more hypocrisy from the liberals who hate us.

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    I was watching a series of videos where the guy, ( very old and crusty, must be 3-4 years older than me ), says these days you never know who has body armor, so just shoot them in the crotch. I had never thought of that, but it does make sense.

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    Is body armor (or any clothing or accessories) under the auspices of BATF?
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    Laws banning anything would only be fair if there were no exceptions. Citizens should have everything that the police, Congress, or any other section of the population have

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    Chuckie can lick the sweat off my balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 20Gauge View Post
    I was watching a series of videos where the guy, ( very old and crusty, must be 3-4 years older than me ), says these days you never know who has body armor, so just shoot them in the crotch. I had never thought of that, but it does make sense.
    Based on the description, it has to be Clint Smith at Thunder Ranch.

    RAW CLINT 7: SHOOT THEM IN THE CROTCH (2:15)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE9qooFUqsk

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpha View Post
    Is body armor (or any clothing or accessories) under the auspices of BATF?
    I think most jurisdictions have penalties for using body armor in commission of a crime. True to form, Chuckie and his creepy ilk, show their true agenda.

    Body Armor is by its very construction, A DEFENSIVE DEVICE. Since that bank shootout years ago where the police had to keep the EMS truck away for HOURS until that one dude bled out, BA has been vilified.

    Just like my AR, my BA, can lay in my closet FOR YEARS without hurting anyone. To deny citizens that layer of personal defense is wrong.

    I'll concede this, make it a capital offense to wear it in commission of a crime, if that makes Chucky feel better. Don't punish possession. We all know what kind of logic Chuccky uses....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    Chuckie can lick the sweat off my balls.
    You need to mow your yard first and wait a week, should be nice and ripe.

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    Wasn't it the late Jeff Cooper that said to shoot the goblins in the head in case they were armored up.

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    Better get your BA quickly. There will be a run on it as soon as word gets out.......

    So, now the dems are going to help out the body armor industry.......heh....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wise Owl View Post
    Better get your BA quickly. There will be a run on it as soon as word gets out.......
    Too late...I ordered from AR500 about a week ago, and their lead time was "up to 14 weeks". Best get in line if you're agonna.
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    Can't do this because way to many people now legally own body armor.
    No way to grandfather them in as it would require the owners to register their private property with the government.
    Why does that sound sound so similar to gun registration?

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    Body armor is a definite advantage in many situations. The Dallas shooter was able to bag those cops while armored up. Armor is also heavy and will slow you down. Most people are trained to shoot center mass on an adversary and armor protects center mass. Shooting around the armor is possible, but the adrenaline of a gun fight will cause most people to revert to their center mass training.

    Armor is very cheap right now for the ar500. If I had to guard my home after a hurricane/mega earthquake/etc. I would wear it low profile.

    It won't be outlawed outright....only cops will be able to buy it just like full cap mags. You will have a very hard time sourcing it in the future. These laws are intended to restrict access of gear by the masses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 20Gauge View Post
    I was watching a series of videos where the guy, ( very old and crusty, must be 3-4 years older than me ), says these days you never know who has body armor, so just shoot them in the crotch. I had never thought of that, but it does make sense.
    yes
    the round in the lower abdomen will break the hip and or skippy around inside the pelvic cavity.
    It wont kill them outright unless major artery is hit but it will take them down off their feet.

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    Two shots to body, one to head, Mozambique drill in case of body armor and/or drugged up assailant.

    Body armor, night vision, suppressors, all of them and more are targets for elimination by leftists.

    And, even if they are unsuccessful making them illegal to acquire and own, they could all get crazy
    expensive and/or scarce if fear kicked that they might. Get all your toys now, well before spicy time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArisenCarcass View Post
    Based on the description, it has to be Clint Smith at Thunder Ranch.

    RAW CLINT 7: SHOOT THEM IN THE CROTCH (2:15)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE9qooFUqsk
    That was it!!

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    Well... Time to pull the trigger ( ) on some body armor...

    Spartan Armor - $219.00

    https://www.spartanarmorsystems.com/...yABEgLepvD_BwE
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    Quote Originally Posted by mechanic 217 View Post
    Wasn't it the late Jeff Cooper that said to shoot the goblins in the head in case they were armored up.
    G Gordon Liddy said:

    "If the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms insists upon a firefight, give them a firefight. Just remember, they're wearing flak jackets and you're better off shooting for the head."

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    I used to be national factory rep for, now defunct, SilentPartner body armor.

    For the last 20+ years I've been well served at http://www.bulletproofme.com/

    Owner Nick is friend, been down to my place, tell him I sent you, couldn't hurt.

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    The current (as of the last time I was in the Station for class, is to target the hip pockets.) MUCH better than trying for a headshot, since if you MISS your shot is going DOWN to the ground and a headshot it's looking for other heads.

    And if you hit them in the hips (Hip Joints) they are going to go DOWN. So you have stabilized and immobilized that one.


    Might be surprised how many LEO agencies are teaching this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Publius View Post
    Can't do this because way to many people now legally own body armor.
    No way to grandfather them in as it would require the owners to register their private property with the government.
    Why does that sound sound so similar to gun registration?
    During the AWB years 30 rd magazines were banned yet they never required you to register them. They just outlawed the sale of them by businesses to us normals. A body armor ban could work the same way in that store selling the item would require leo/government paper work to complete the sale.

    I know for several years after the awb ended bushmaster wouldn't sell you a m16 bolt carrier unless you supplied them with a copy of your nfa paperwork. I know this as a fact as I was buying an upper for one of my toys and wanted to throw the bcg on due to shipping. I had the paperwork but it pissed me off at the time and I've never bought anything else from them. Now m16 bolt carriers is pretty much all you can get when you buy an ar15 or parts. And thank you lord for psa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by night driver View Post
    The current (as of the last time I was in the Station for class, is to target the hip pockets.) MUCH better than trying for a headshot, since if you MISS your shot is going DOWN to the ground and a headshot it's looking for other heads.

    And if you hit them in the hips (Hip Joints) they are going to go DOWN. So you have stabilized and immobilized that one.


    Might be surprised how many LEO agencies are teaching this.
    My mental scenario of encountering a shooter in a crowded area, like a store or
    my favorite restaurants, I've imagined taking a lower stance, like dropping to a
    knee, to both become a smaller target, more stable, and then have any head
    shot misses going high up into the ceiling, well above any innocents in the
    background.

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    the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
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    If anyone is going to be ordering armor I still have the AR500 Testudo plate carrier for sale. I hit one of their 2 for 1 sales on this particular carrier.........It also has the pouches for side plates. It is new, never used and still in the plastic bag.

    The price is $80 plus shipping, right now this carrier is priced at $159, this is a savings of $79. Original price I was asking was $125 in the OP.



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    How to Make Body Armor for Rifles
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    The homemade body armor and DIY Body Armor video only show a demonstration of the possibility’s of construction body armor with readily available materials. Homemade Body Armor and DIY Body Armor is easy to make, but is difficult to justify building based upon the price of commercially available 2nd hand body armor.
    And others....https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...mic+body+armor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    Chuckie can lick the sweat off my balls.
    I’ll pass on that who knows where that tounge has been

    And I will keep my armour as well, it may not stop rifle
    fire but helps with pistol caliber and ‘...to whom it may concern” fragments

    and
    his ‘security’ can ditch their armour FIRST. equal protection(and lack therof) clause, etc, etc.
    "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarok View Post
    Well... Time to pull the trigger ( ) on some body armor...

    Spartan Armor - $219.00

    https://www.spartanarmorsystems.com/...yABEgLepvD_BwE
    The lead time over at ar500, went up a week in a couple hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarok View Post
    Well... Time to pull the trigger ( ) on some body armor...

    Spartan Armor - $219.00

    https://www.spartanarmorsystems.com/...yABEgLepvD_BwE
    This place, also, has very affordable prices...

    $229.00

    https://toptiergearusa.com/product/a...se-body-armor/
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    Buying one of those sure would put you on a list-or two...
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    Yep. And joining the Police Auxiliary will as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shane View Post
    My mental scenario of encountering a shooter in a crowded area, like a store or
    my favorite restaurants, I've imagined taking a lower stance, like dropping to a
    knee, to both become a smaller target, more stable, and then have any head
    shot misses going high up into the ceiling, well above any innocents in the
    background.

    - Shane
    That works well in a home too, to prevent shooting through a wall and hitting someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by night driver View Post
    The current (as of the last time I was in the Station for class, is to target the hip pockets.) MUCH better than trying for a headshot, since if you MISS your shot is going DOWN to the ground and a headshot it's looking for other heads.

    And if you hit them in the hips (Hip Joints) they are going to go DOWN. So you have stabilized and immobilized that one.


    Might be surprised how many LEO agencies are teaching this.
    Were still teaching skip the hip, hit the prick...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Housecarl View Post
    How to Make Body Armor for Rifles
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYkl4m3uoOE



    And others....https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...mic+body+armor
    Nice craft project, but its the stab proof armors that are pricey...anything reliable up your sleeve for that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jward View Post
    Nice craft project, but its the stab proof armors that are pricey...anything reliable up your sleeve for that?
    21 ft and Cu/Pb

    Seriously, IMO only prison guards benefit from stab proof. Even with steel plates on, you realize just how MUCH of your important parts are vulnerable. ymmv
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    So now we know. Chucky does not care about school children as he wants to ban protection for kids in gun free zones.

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    So I guess I am going to need another "Come and Take It" flag. Next thing, that mofo is gonna want my Kevlar helmet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luddite View Post
    21 ft and Cu/Pb

    Seriously, IMO only prison guards benefit from stab proof. Even with steel plates on, you realize just how MUCH of your important parts are vulnerable. ymmv
    And what sux is, it is considered a pass for the Calif Ice Pick test, if the weapon pierces the vest no more than a 1/4 inch. If they gas you, then stab you...that's a nasty wound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by subnet View Post
    And what sux is, it is considered a pass for the Calif Ice Pick test, if the weapon pierces the vest no more than a 1/4 inch. If they gas you, then stab you...that's a nasty wound.
    NASTY seems too mild. ewww.

    Good ol wiki provided a nice shiv of info on the subject. (In bold)

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    Stab vest


    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Stab-Protective Body Armor, Concealable (CSPBA)
    A stab vest or stab proof vest is a reinforced piece of body armor, worn under or over other items of clothing, which is designed to resist knife attacks to the chest, back and sides. Stab vests are different from bulletproof vests, most of which offer protection against firearms but afford little against stabbing with sharp-tipped objects such as knives; most stab vests afford less protection against bullets, particularly those of high caliber, but are designed to prevent serious injury by prohibiting knife penetration beyond a few millimeters. Stab vests are also needle and slash proof.


    Contents [hide]
    1 Standards 1.1 "Ice pick" tests
    1.2 United Kingdom
    1.3 United States

    2 Use
    3 See also
    4 References
    5 External links

    Standards[edit]

    "Ice pick" tests[edit]

    In the mid-1980s the state of California Department of Corrections issued a requirement for a body armor using a commercial ice pick as the test penetrator. The test method attempted to simulate the capacity of a human attacker to deliver impact energy with their upper body. As was later shown, this test overstated the capacity of human attackers. The test used a drop mass or sabot that carried the ice pick. Using gravitational force, the height of the drop mass above the vest was proportional to the impact energy. This test specified 109 joules (81 ft·lbf) of energy and a 7.3 kg (16 lb) drop mass with a drop height of 153 cm (60 in) and an ice pick with a 4 mm (0.16 in) diameter with a sharp tip with a 5.4 m/s (17 ft/s) terminal velocity in the test. The California standard did not include knife or cutting edge weapons in the test protocol. In this early phase only titanium and steel plate offerings were successful in addressing this requirement.

    These textile materials do not have equal performance with cutting-edge threats and these certifications were only with ice picks and were not tested with knives.

    United Kingdom[edit]

    The Police Scientific Development Branch (PSDB) work studied what kind of weapons are commonly used in stabbing attacks and what levels of impact energy fit young men are capable of generating during an attack. The study resulted in minimum performance ratings for armor used in the UK, as defined under PSDB publication 6/99. The PSDB standard was replaced in 2007 with the current Home Office Scientific Development Branch (HOSDB) publication No. 39/07/C which governs stab resistant body armor performance in the UK. This updated standard introduced a more stringent testing procedure with more drops than the previous standard plus the introduction of the P1/B Blade which is found to be more aggressive that the older P1/A Blade.[1]

    In the UK there are no standalone ratings for spike resistance. For stab resistant armor to carry a spike resistance (SP) rating in the UK, it must first pass minimum knife resistance (KR) performance tests.

    United States[edit]

    In the US, the National Institute of Justice (NIJ) has established a stab-resistant body armor test standard (NIJ STD 0115.00), based on the work in the UK, which defines two threat types: spike and edged blade.

    Manufacturers of body armor can voluntarily submit armor models for compliance testing through the National Law Enforcement and Corrections Technology Center in Rockville, Maryland. Through the program, manufacturers certify that their armor will defeat the specified threat at one of three threat levels. Threat levels 1, 2 and 3 are based on impact energies of 24, 33 and 43 joules respectively.

    Use[edit]

    Stab proof vests are commonly used by police in both the United Kingdom and New Zealand;[2] in both countries it is standard issue to every officer. They are also often worn by paramedics, security staff, traffic wardens, environmental wardens, customs officers, immigration officers, bailiffs, cash in transit officers, door supervisors/bouncers, or anyone who may be under any threat. In countries with greater firearms ownership, such as the United States and Canada, bullet-resistant vests are more common, but dual-purpose armor plates that protect against both stab and firearms attacks are fairly widely available for police and security applications.
    As of 1998 all body armour is considered a 'prohibited weapon' in Australia, but some police have stab vests made available.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stab_vest
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