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    ‘Outright disrespectful’: Four House women struggle as Pelosi isolates them

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi admonished Democrats for personally attacking one another, warning in a closed-door meeting Wednesday that the party’s fracturing was jeopardizing its majority.

    Without naming names, her target was clear: the four liberal freshmen known as “the Squad.”

    “You got a complaint? You come and talk to me about it. But do not tweet about our members and expect us to think that that is just okay,” Pelosi (D-Calif.) told Democrats.

    But “the Squad” — Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (N.Y.), Ilhan Omar (Minn.), Rashida Tlaib (Mich.) and Ayanna Pressley (Mass.) — is convinced it is Pelosi who is being the bully.

    The four are struggling with the speaker’s moves to isolate them in recent weeks, according to interviews with the lawmakers, congressional aides and allies. Pelosi has made at least half a dozen remarks dismissing the group or their far-left proposals on the environment and health care. More recently she scorned their lonely opposition to the party’s emergency border bill last month.

    And she defended those comments Wednesday, saying, “I have no regrets about anything. Regrets is not what I do,” doubling down on her claim that the group has little power in the House.

    “When these comments first started, I kind of thought that she was keeping the progressive flank at more of an arm’s distance in order to protect more moderate members, which I understood,” Ocasio-Cortez told The Washington Post. “But the persistent singling out . . . it got to a point where it was just outright disrespectful . . . the explicit singling out of newly elected women of color.”

    The four women are trying to figure out how to respond, texting one another and weighing whether to confront Pelosi to ask her to stop. But for now, they are focused on their congressional duties, even as they defend their votes in the House that have drawn Pelosi’s ire.

    “Thank God my mother gave me broad shoulders and a strong back. I can handle it. I’m not worried about me,” said Pressley, who called Pelosi’s comments “demoralizing.” “I am worried about the signal that it sends to people I speak to and for, who sent me here with a mandate, and how it affects them.”

    The tensions underscore the political and generational divide between the most powerful woman in American politics, who has led House Democrats for more than 16 years, and the new band of liberals clamoring for change and trying to push the party left. Pelosi has spent more than 30 years perfecting an inside game to secure wins for her party, most notably the Affordable Care Act in 2010. The four freshmen lawmakers, by contrast, have built a massive online following and leveraged their power on the outside, including in the 2020 presidential race.

    Their ability to work together — or refusal to — will have major implications for Democrats as they seek to oust President Trump and retain their majority in next year’s election. Pelosi knows that fate of her majority rests with the moderate Democrats who captured Republican-held seats in last year’s midterm elections.
    “A majority is a fragile thing,” she said, according to two people present for the remarks, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the private meeting, adding that members should show “some level of respect and sensitivity” to more moderate colleagues: “You make me the target, but don’t make our [moderates] the target in all of this, because we have important fish to fry.”

    The speaker’s allies say concerns about the next election is driving her moves to isolate these four women.

    “Sometimes a leader’s got to take positions to keep the team [united],” said Rep. Gregory W. Meeks (D-N.Y.). “She knows what got us here and what’s going to keep us here.”

    Pelosi suggested to New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd in an opinion piece published Saturday that “the Squad” had a limited following inside the House. She specifically pointed to the example of the House-passed Democratic border bill in late June, which the group opposed.

    “All these people have their public whatever and their Twitter world,” Pelosi said in the New York Times interview. “But they didn’t have any following. They’re four people and that’s how many votes they got.”

    Several in the caucus were uncomfortable with Pelosi’s comments. Congressional Progressive Caucus leaders are expected to talk to Pelosi about her comments, according to two officials familiar with the plan. Other women of color in the House have similarly expressed concerns.

    “I can’t tell the speaker to apologize, but I was taken aback by it. Because we’re all here to work together,” said Rep. Jahana Hayes (D-Conn.), the first black woman to represent her state in Congress.

    Notably, Hayes, Ocasio-Cortez and Omar appeared together with Pelosi smiling on the cover of Rolling Stone in a photo taken in January.

    While some of the four enjoy more diplomatic relationships with Pelosi, Ocasio-Cortez’s relationship with the speaker has been chilly from the start. After she upset Rep. Joseph Crowley (N.Y.) in the Democratic primary, Pelosi moved to immediately downplay her victory, saying it was a one-off event.

    Still, Pelosi tried to create a bridge with the New Yorker: During their first face-to-face meeting just before the midterm elections, Pelosi spent nearly two hours trying to convince the liberal that she was just like her, touting her background. It was around that time that Ocasio-Cortez agreed to not only back Pelosi as speaker but also vocally defend her against rebels trying to keep her from the gavel.
    Now, half a year later, virtually all communication between the two women has ceased. The two have not spoken one-on-one since February when Ocasio-Cortez said. But now people are telling the freshman to talk to Pelosi. She doesn’t want to, however.

    “There hasn’t really been a relationship, to be frank,” she said. “It’s difficult.”
    Omar, according to people close to her, has been similarly disappointed. The lawmaker from Minnesota looks up to Pelosi and has enjoyed a positive relationship with the speaker, despite her criticisms of Israel that caused a major stir in the party. Even then, however, Pelosi gave Omar a heads-up before chiding her publicly.

    In one of her first conversations with Pelosi after she won her primary, Omar told Pelosi that she couldn’t vote on the floor because of a headwear ban in the House. Pelosi promised to change the rules so she could wear her hijab in the Capitol.
    For Tlaib, Pelosi’s latest comment amounted to a mixed message — one that seemed to contradict the advice Pelosi gave in a meeting early in her tenure. “Represent your district,” Tlaib recalled Pelosi telling her. “And that’s exactly what I’m doing.”

    Hours after her primary win in August, Tlaib ruffled feathers by saying in a CNN interview that she would “probably not” support Pelosi for speaker. But Pelosi, directly and through intermediaries, worked through the ensuing months to keep her mind open, and Tlaib ultimately voted for her.

    Tlaib then won a seat on the Financial Services Committee, a plum assignment for a freshman in a safely Democratic district. And even as she garnered outsize media attention, Pelosi appeared to have her back: When Tlaib was filmed telling a crowd of supporters in vulgar terms that lawmakers would impeach President Trump, Pelosi delivered only faint public criticism.

    “Whatever is she saying is not going to impact my work,” Tlaib said of Pelosi’s comments over the weekend. “I'm going to continue to introduce legislation and policy.”

    Yet some lawmakers and aides believe Pelosi’s treatment of the group is having a quiet effect on them. Many activists thought the group would band together to form a type of Freedom Caucus to deliver wins for the left, but they haven’t done so and appear almost on the defensive when Pelosi criticizes them.

    They also have not tried to whip votes against a major leadership priority such as the border bill, nor muscled House support for impeachment, an idea Pelosi rejects. And they have declined to call Pelosi out by name as she sidelines liberal policy priorities such as Medicare-for-all and the Green New Deal, dismissing them publicly as “enthusiasms” and “exuberances” rather than viable policy prescriptions.

    “She chooses her words carefully. She does not misspeak,” said Rep. Anna G. Eshoo (D-Calif.), a close friend of Pelosi. “There's a big difference between being an advocate and being a legislator.”

    Asked about why she hasn’t confronted Pelosi, Ocasio-Cortez said she wasn’t sure what to do.

    “I do find it a little curious that leadership doesn’t want us to try to have any sort of conversation about even messaging — but we’re just freshmen, right?” she said.

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    That was really abusive, assigning AOC REAL work. It was supposed to be fun and games, tweets and media adoration but NOT real work for $175k a year.
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    The gang of four should take out their threat. It's the liberal way.
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    The problem is that four of them actually think that they have a greater impact than the majority of the house democrats.

    In other words, we are now here, step aside and do what we say.

    This is why liberals always end up resorting to using guns to kill off the opposition. People won't do as we say, so we shoot them. Then everyone else behaves.

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    This is the mentality that No Child Left Behind created. Egocentric and Ethnocentric. Feelings trump Facts.
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    Pelosi should be ashamed that may hurt their self esteem

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    . When these comments first started, I kind of thought that she was keeping the progressive flank at more of an arm’s distance in order to protect more moderate members, which I understood,” Ocasio-Cortez told The Washington Post. “But the persistent singling out . . . it got to a point where it was just outright disrespectful . . . the explicit singling out of newly elected women of color
    So the up and coming stars of the party think they're still in high school, and serving is supposed to look and function like an episode of mean girls?
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    A good dose of Pelosi's venom and their little power trips will be over.

    Wow, this is the first good thing I've ever had to say about Pelosi, I need to go lie down it's just too much.

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    Wait until Pelosi starts doing to them what she's doing to Trump and her ilk. Pelosi is only doing this because of the election. If they were running things, Pelosi would be looking the other way. The gang of 4 are looking to take Pelosi down and that's a big no-no. They eat their own remember?

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    I have to wonder if Pelosi is looking for people to run against "the squad" and have them lose in the primary's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeep View Post
    I have to wonder if Pelosi is looking for people to run against "the squad" and have them lose in the primary's?
    I had to read this twice to get your meaning.

    You mean Pelosi is looking for new people to REPLACE "the squad" in a successful primary election.

    Given a certain level of dissatisfaction at the home base endeared by the squad, this shouldn't be too hard.

    But, but, what about the Democratic Socialists? Being just a Democrat is not good enough for this group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dobbin View Post
    I had to read this twice to get your meaning.

    You mean Pelosi is looking for new people to REPLACE "the squad" in a successful primary election.

    Given a certain level of dissatisfaction at the home base endeared by the squad, this shouldn't be too hard.

    But, but, what about the Democratic Socialists? Being just a Democrat is not good enough for this group.

    AOC should buy a dog - NOW!

    Dobbin

    Sorry Dobbin, I should have made myself more clear. Yes, find another democrat who would beat these 4 in the primary elections and have the replacements loyal to Pelosi. I think that is what Pelosi is looking for behind the scenes and these 4 know that, so they are causing disruptions in the dem party as payback and being spiteful. Don't you just love it when the dem's turn on each other!!

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    But the persistent singling out . . . it got to a point where it was just outright disrespectful . . . the explicit singling out of newly elected women of color.”
    Respect has to be earned... take the hint!

    And... how does AOC claim to be a "woman of color"!? I didn't realize Hispanics were black... and she's damned l8ght skinned even for a Hispanic...

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    Ah, ma'am, Hispanics also self identify as Women or People of Color...

    Yeah that's like me or my brother (who, truth be told DOES look somewhat olive-swarthy) as Italians being People of Color. David was mistaken by a Soviet train conductor as Jewish when he was a Jr in College. (He was on a Jr Winter Semester trip through the Soviet Union, It was fairly cool since several of his classmates were Diplomat kids (NOT all US diplomats. either. Hamilton did and still DOES attract Diplomat talent. HEH, when the Company came calling he told 'em not in THEIR lifetimes!)

    But I digress. It's about damn time that Pelosi did some teaching and explaining as to the length of the leashes that Frosh Critters get normally. they have some damned interesting committee postings for Frosh, but it looks like Nan is going to FINALLY school 'em.
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    Taking the bull by the horns and run and control the democrat party at the congress level.

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    I wonder if this will cost Pelosi her seat? After all she is old and she is white, which is everything today's youth has been taught to hate. Couple that with the fact that she comes from the communist state of Kalifornia... and yeah I can see this happening.
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    Let the democraps continue to war and eat each other....

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    Anyone else concerned Pelosi is the only one keeping them on a leash? They are literally one heartbeat away from giving free rein to their Marxist ideologies? They are what the new Democrat Party can and will look like. I keep hoping their constituents will become embarrassed enough to vote them out of office.
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    “But the persistent singling out . . . it got to a point where it was just outright disrespectful . . . the explicit singling out of newly elected women of color.”
    Throwing out the race card AGAINST the Dims? This should be entertaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerkom View Post
    This is the mentality that No Child Left Behind created. Egocentric and Ethnocentric. Feelings trump Facts.
    beautifully stated and 110% kurrrekt . . . willing to bet that if pee-louse-eee offered to give them each a gold star and a participation trophy they'd STFU and go away.
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    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem...tez-pelosi.amp

    DEMOCRATSPublished July 11, 2019 Last Update 2 hrs ago

    House Dem blasts 'juvenile' Ocasio-Cortez, chief of staff: 'Ignorance is beyond belief'

    By Sam Dorman | Fox News


    Rep. William Lacy Clay, D-Mo., added to the mounting Democratic criticism of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., reportedly calling her, her chief of staff, and the group Justice Democrats "juvenile."

    "Their ignorance is beyond belief," Clay, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus, reportedly said while in the Speaker's Lobby. His comments followed a feud between House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and freshman congresswomen, like Ocasio-Cortez, that involved racially-charged criticism.


    Ocasio-Cortez's chief of staff, Saikat Chakrabarti, previously compared moderate Democrats to racists -- prompting Pelosi, at the request of some of her members, warn House Democrats not to attack each other on Twitter.

    'VIEW' TELLS AOC, OTHER DEMS TO RESPECT PELOSI AFTER RACISM ACCUSATION: 'BS'


    "You got a complaint? You come and talk to me about it. But do not tweet about our members and expect us to think that that is just ok," she reportedly said. On the same day of that caucus meeting, Ocasio-Cortez called out Pelosi for what she sees as the speaker continually targeting her and other freshmen lawmakers of color.

    Clay reportedly addressed the racial undertones of the criticisms coming from Ocasio-Cortez's office, saying it was "unbelievable" it would bring up that issue.

    “What a weak argument, because you can’t get your way and because you’re getting pushback you resort to using the race card? Unbelievable. That’s unbelievable to me,” Clay reportedly said on Thursday.
    Clay wasn't the only one to attack Ocasio-Cortez on Thursday. "The View" hosts Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg criticized her's
    and others' decision to attack Democrats like Pelosi. "I think this is more BS," Goldberg said of Ocasio-Cortez's comments on race.

    Pelosi, meanwhile, refused to provide further comment on the feud while discussing it during her weekly press briefing.

    “I've said what I'm going to say…What I said in the caucus yesterday had an overwhelming response from my members," she said.

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    "Because they know what the facts are and what we are responding to. We respect the value of every member of our caucus. The diversity of it all is a wonderful thing. Diversity is our strength. Unity is our power."

    Fox News' Alex Pappas contributed to this report.INGRICH ON DEMS' INFIGHTING: AOC, OTHER FRESHMEN QUESTIONING WHY
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    I hope the Democrats can get them under control before they cause the party looks worse than they already do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeep View Post
    I have to wonder if Pelosi is looking for people to run against "the squad" and have them lose in the primary's?
    I have previously predicted that Occasional(ly semi-functioning) Cortex will get primaried out by 20 points in the next election year. I am sticking to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennessee gal View Post
    I hope the Democrats can get them under control before they cause the party looks worse than they already do.
    Unless you're pro-Democrat, why would that be bad? The more the Dims look like the party of Pol Pot and Sodom, the better for Americans.
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