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    So I ask you having read 1970 reasearch.

    Quote Originally Posted by Profit of Doom View Post
    Not so much wiki in general, although it certainly has its place as a tool of the left, like much of the large media. Snopes isnít much better. Knowing this, it is far easier to ferret out the truth from the pile of pony shit. As I have pointed out googling controversial subjects on AGW, I often had to past the first page to get anything but ď97% of scientists agree.Ē
    Are they putting particles into the atmosphere? How long have they been doing it if they have and if they are or have been. Why? Now if you answer this you will have addressed my concerns.

    Thank you.

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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...ible-substance

    A reporter inquired whether this made carbon markets just the same as financial markets. Abbott repeated his definition: "Let's think about it. It's a market in the non-delivery of an invisible substance to no one."

    Donít care for the warmist background of the story, but that quote is great!
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    So no answer

    Quote Originally Posted by Profit of Doom View Post
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...ible-substance

    A reporter inquired whether this made carbon markets just the same as financial markets. Abbott repeated his definition: "Let's think about it. It's a market in the non-delivery of an invisible substance to no one."

    Donít care for the warmist background of the story, but that quote is great!
    When you look up at the sky , do you see the same blue sky that you did as a kid? Of couse everyone and their dog is going to try to make a buck off it, that is why we are capitalists. "It is all about the Benjamins baby". And I did not even need to go to your link. Got the hat.

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    My concern is not about chemtrails or anything like that. While possibly related in a way, I’m not chasing that. The climate scam causes plenty of damage on its own.
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    I have always thought that the ultimate of stupidity was to think that man was so powerful that he had control of our planet. Any who has gone to sea and saw the big waves rolling up and tossing your ship around must know better.

    And to blame it on carbon dioxide was another grave error. We have a relationship with plants, they take in CO2 which we exhale and then they use the CO2 and give off O2 which we need to survive.

    No wonder our society is in grave danger.

    Russell

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    https://www.heritage.org/environment...treme-policies

    The State of Climate Science: No Justification for Extreme Policies

    In-depth examination of Obama policies.
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    http://www.john-daly.com/zjiceco2.htm

    Climate Change: Incorrect information on pre-industrial CO2

    Discovering errors in measuring ice core gasses.

    http://www.john-daly.com/

    Parent site
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell Crowley View Post
    I have always thought that the ultimate of stupidity was to think that man was so powerful that he had control of our planet. Any who has gone to sea and saw the big waves rolling up and tossing your ship around must know better.

    And to blame it on carbon dioxide was another grave error. We have a relationship with plants, they take in CO2 which we exhale and then they use the CO2 and give off O2 which we need to survive.

    No wonder our society is in grave danger.

    Russell
    So did I. I USed to watch youtube as they hit the net. I'd sit and buy things on Ebay and why I waited on the bidding I watched the new stuff that hit before they were deleted looking for anomalies. You can not do that any more it is deleted before it hit. I seen many terrible things. One day I watched this black and white around a minute clip. It started out completely white then I noticed a little streamer appear and twist around then a few more popped up. As I was watching the camera was pulling back and I watched and it appeared that I was looking into a cup with water starting to boil. As the camera kept pulling back I realize it was a small cove off a small island and I was watching a tropical storm being made in time lapse from a satellite or u-2/black bird. Clip stayed up for about 30 minutes and was gone.

    http://www.google.com/search?ei=zL9z...10.fKDFWkHpiKg

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    https://www.heartland.org/topics/cli...sts/index.html

    STATE ATTORNEYS GENERAL LAUNCH LEGAL ATTACK ON CLIMATE REALISTS

    RICO20

    Violation of GroupThink is a crime
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    https://cei.org/content/climate-ques...seems-want-ask

    Climate Questions for Politicians (That No One Seems to Want to Ask)
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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nofrakk...isappears/amp/

    RICO20 Letter to President Obama Disappears
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    https://medium.com/@hwater84/climate...s-56c181db82c1

    Climate Change and the Ten Warning Signs for Cults
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    http://akdart.com/warming5.html

    Shitload of articles about the scam.
    I mean, really, a shitload.
    Bring a shovel.
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    http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/5/prweb10772757.htm

    Only 65 Scientists of 12,000 Make up Alleged 97% on Climate Change and Global Warming Consensus According to Breakdown of Cook et al study, say Friends of Science
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    https://www.heartland.org/news-opini...caused-warming

    ADMIRALíS ĎLAYMANíSí REVIEW OF EVIDENCE FINDS NO HUMAN-CAUSED WARMING

    https://www.heartland.org/_template-...l_Warming_.pdf

    Very concise.
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    https://stopthesethings.com/2019/07/...nt-wind-solar/

    The Disasterous Economics of Trying to Power an Electrical Grid with 100% Intermittent Renewables
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    https://stopthesethings.com/2016/01/...colate-teapot/

    Wind Power: about as useful as a chocolate teapot Ö

    Expose of the total inability of intermittent (all) renewable energy sources to function in the grid, or for that matter any commercial application. Frequent blackouts, huge cost overruns and massive price hikes, along with little if any actual emissions reduction. The requirement for spinning reserve to cover the full instantaneous load kinda takes the wind out of renewablesí sails.
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    See the stuff in the air in Los Angel Angeles 1953?

    http://www.google.com/search?q=1953+...12fEShaiLaFoM:

    1973. http://www.google.com/search?biw=134...Y_vCPMQ4dUDCAY

    Maybe we're looking in the wrong place? I watch.

    1953. http://www.slideshare.net/Revkin/nyt...change-climate

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    If you are referring to pollution AKA “smog” being less now that decades ago, look up the chemical processes that form smog. You’ll find a lot of nitrogen compounds, hydrocarbons, ozone, sulfur, etc. What you won’t find is actual carbon dioxide. It is not, by itself, a pollutant. I had to remind my wife of that while I played chess with her pigeon.
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    http://www.climatescienceinternation...id=37&Itemid=1

    Manhattan declaration

    http://www.sepp.org/publications/NIPCC_final.pdf

    Nature, Not Human Activity, Rules the Climate - NIPCC
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    This is good information - especially the Climate Science International......thank you.
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    https://quillette.com/2019/02/27/why...ve-the-planet/

    Why renewables can’t save the planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurane View Post
    This is good information - especially the Climate Science International......thank you.
    I have found and posted so many here I lose track. Currently I reading thru this one.
    https://www.climatedepot.com/2019/08...rges-could-di/
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    https://www.amherst.edu/media/view/4...ity_Report.pdf

    Page 98-99
    Soil scientist and geologist Viv Forbes, the chairman of Australian based “The Carbon Sense Coalition,” dissented from man-made climate fears. ―There is no evidence that carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is driving surface temperature, and there is plenty of evidence to show that current levels of temperature and carbon dioxide are neither extreme nor of concern,‖ Forbes wrote on July 1, 2007. ―Even if the water vapor and carbon dioxide produced by man did cause some slight warming of the earth, is this a problem? Eons of geological history show that a warm, moist, carbon-rich atmosphere encourages all life on earth. These periods are referred to as ̳Golden Ages‘. The cold barren periods are those to be feared – they get called ̳The Dark Ages‘,‖ Forbes explained. ―It is unbelievable that many in politics and the media are whipping up public hysteria about ̳global warming‘ when the best evidence suggests that for the 100 years ending in the year 2000, the century of coal, steel, electricity, the internal combustion engine, jet planes, two world wars and a population explosion, the average surface temperature rose by only 0.6 deg, and there has been NO increase in temperature since 1998. In many areas, surface temperatures have been falling for decades,‖ he continued. ―The output of a complex computer simulation of the atmosphere is not ̳evidence‘. It is a fluttering flag of forecasts, hung on a slim flagpole of theory, resting on a leaky raft of assumptions, which is drifting without the rudder of evidence, in cross currents of ideology emotion and bias, on the wide deep and restless ocean of the unknown,‖ Forbes added.
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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj...-97-1401145980

    Wall Street journal addressing the 97% consensus.
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    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...648?via%3Dihub

    Interesting paper on solar models.

    Involves approx. 11 years cycles of sunspots and major planets.
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    https://www.heritage.org/environment...global-warming

    Five Myths About Extreme Weather and Global Warming
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    http://www.populartechnology.net/200...1#papersdenial

    1350+ Peer-Reviewed Papers Supporting Skeptic Arguments Against ACC/AGW Alarmism

    Lists of skeptical scientists can be found here:

    31,487 Scientists Reject AGW Alarmism
    1100 Climate Realists sign 'The Manhattan Declaration on Climate Change'
    1000+ International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
    300+ Eminent Scientists Reject U.N. Climate Change Treaty
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    https://www.climatedepot.com/2016/01...ears-8-months/

    ďSatellites: No global warming at all for 18 years 8 monthsĒ

    From January 2016.
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    https://www.ff.org/tag/global-warming/

    ďThe UN Admits That The Paris Climate Deal Was A FraudĒ

    Must read.
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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.com...-slashed%3famp

    'Terrifying' New Climate Models Warn of 6-7įC of Warming by 2100 If Emissions Not Slashed

    These people are a bunch of radical, progressive, batshitcrazy, fruitcakes.
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    https://www.joboneforhumanity.org/th...tipping_points

    More batshitcrazy

    ďThe 4 Most Critical Global Warming Deadlines and Tipping Points We Must NEVER Forget or, We Go ExtinctĒ
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    https://notrickszone.com/2019/09/24/...-letter-to-un/

    “No Climate Emergency” …MIT Climate Expert, 500 Prominent Global Experts Write In Letter To UN
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    https://notrickszone.com/2019/09/24/...-letter-to-un/

    ďNo Climate EmergencyĒ ÖMIT Climate Expert, 500 Prominent Global Experts Write In Letter To UN
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    http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/20...rming.html?m=1

    This is from September 2013, concerning the warming haitus, 15 years at that time. Over twenty years now, no sign of warming resuming, possible cooling starting.
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    https://cei.org/content/climate-ques...seems-want-ask

    5. Is there really a climate crisis?

    In the United States, there has been no increase in flood magnitudes in any region since the 1920s, and no nationwide increase in drought since 1900 as measured by the Palmer Drought Severity Index.

    There has been no trend since 1900 in the strength or frequency of U.S. land-falling hurricanes, and none in hurricane-related damages once losses are adjusted for increases in population, wealth, and the consumer price index.

    Globally, the total area burned by wildfires has decreased every decade since the 1940s, and NASA reports that the number of square kilometers burned fell by about 25 percent between 2003 and 2019.

    In addition, all major indicators of human health and well-being such as life expectancy, per capita income, and crop yields have improved dramatically during the era of global warming.

    Finally, whatever effects global warming may be having on the weather since the 1920s, the individual risk of dying from extreme weather globally has decreased by 99 percent, and since 1990, the relative economic impact of extreme weather (measured as a percent of global GDP) has declined.

    https://www.thegwpf.com/ipcc-report-...getting-worse/

    The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel On Climate Change’s (IPCC) newly-released climate report, once again, found little to no evidence global warming caused many types of extreme weather events to increase.
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    https://www.investors.com/politics/e...t-else-is-new/

    N.Y. Times' Bias Shows In Global Warming Report — What Else Is New?
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    https://notrickszone.com/285-papers-70s-cooling-1/

    Beginning in 2003, software engineer William Connolley quietly removed the highly inconvenient references to the global cooling scare of the 1970s from Wikipedia, the world’s most influential and accessed informational source.

    It had to be done. Too many skeptics were (correctly) pointing out that the scientific “consensus” during the 1960s and 1970s was that the Earth had been cooling for decades, and that nascent theorizing regarding the potential for a CO2-induced global warming were still questionable and uncertain.

    Not only did Connolley — a co-founder (along with Michael Mann and Gavin Schmidt) of the realclimate.com blog — successfully remove (or rewrite) the history of the 1970s global cooling scare from the Wikipedia record, he also erased (or rewrote) references to the Medieval Warm Period and Little Ice Age so as to help create the impression that the paleoclimate is shaped like Mann’s hockey stick graph, with unprecedented and dangerous 20th/21st century warmth.
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