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WEATHER Mississippi River Flooding (Southern Version)
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  1. #81
    Any way we can change the prefix to either ALERT or DISASTER?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BenIan View Post
    Any way we can change the prefix to either ALERT or DISASTER?
    "NOOOOO!!!"

    ("Shhhhh, be quiet and it will NOT happen!!!!" )

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    https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=2

    Tropical Weather Outlook Text
    Tropical Weather Discussion
    ZCZC MIATWOAT ALL
    TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM

    Tropical Weather Outlook
    NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
    800 AM EDT Tue Jun 4 2019

    For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

    1. Shower and thunderstorm activity associated with a broad area of low
    pressure located over the southwestern Gulf of Mexico has decreased
    since yesterday and remains disorganized. This system could briefly
    become a tropical depression before moving inland over northeastern
    Mexico later today or tonight. Regardless of development, the
    disturbance will likely produce heavy rainfall over portions of
    eastern Mexico, southeastern Texas and the Lower Mississippi Valley
    during the next few days. An Air Force Reserve reconnaissance
    aircraft is scheduled to investigate the disturbance later today, if
    necessary. Interests along the Gulf coast of Mexico should monitor
    the progress of this system. For more information about the
    rainfall threat in the United States, please see products issued by
    your local forecast office and the Weather Prediction Center.
    * Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...40 percent.
    * Formation chance through 5 days...medium...40 percent.

    Forecaster Zelinsky
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dozdoats View Post
    https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=2

    Tropical Weather Outlook Text
    Tropical Weather Discussion
    ZCZC MIATWOAT ALL
    TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM

    Tropical Weather Outlook
    NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
    800 AM EDT Tue Jun 4 2019

    For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

    1. Shower and thunderstorm activity associated with a broad area of low
    pressure located over the southwestern Gulf of Mexico has decreased
    since yesterday and remains disorganized. This system could briefly
    become a tropical depression before moving inland over northeastern
    Mexico later today or tonight. Regardless of development, the
    disturbance will likely produce heavy rainfall over portions of
    eastern Mexico, southeastern Texas and the Lower Mississippi Valley
    during the next few days. An Air Force Reserve reconnaissance
    aircraft is scheduled to investigate the disturbance later today, if
    necessary. Interests along the Gulf coast of Mexico should monitor
    the progress of this system. For more information about the
    rainfall threat in the United States, please see products issued by
    your local forecast office and the Weather Prediction Center.
    * Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...40 percent.
    * Formation chance through 5 days...medium...40 percent.

    Forecaster Zelinsky
    Thanks, Dozdoats. I just checked our weather forecast. Rain and thunderstorms starting tomorrow thru at least Sunday! If this rain keeps up, we're going to need a bigger boat! At least some of the farmers in my AO have managed to get a few crops in the ground.

  5. #85
    https://katc.com/news/louisiana-floo...nza-is-opened/

    Amount of water to be released when Morganza is opened
    Eric Zernich
    4:05 pm
    June 3, 2019

    With the opening of the Morganza Spillway now scheduled for Sunday, June 9, here is a look at the amount of water that will flow into the basin.

    This year, there will be a gradual release of water through the spillway.

    When it is opened – currently set for Sunday – the Corps of Engineers will open one bay, allowing 10,000 cubic feet of water to rush through per second.

    That is roughly equal to the volume of 10 above-ground pools each second.

    The next day, a second bay will be opened, doubling the amount of water to be released.

    If forecasts hold the Corps eventually will open about 14 to 15 bays, pumping 150 thousand cubic feet of water to pour through the gates every second.

    At that rate, the water would fill the Superdome every 15 minutes.

    Back in 1973 when the Corps opened the spillway for the first time, they opened 42 bays the first day.

    With such a large volume of water the first day, it caused significant adverse effects to wildlife and crops and also caused minor damage to the spillway itself.

    So, learning from their mistakes, in 2011 the spillway opening the Corps started with two bays the first day, added seven more the next day and maxed out at 17 bays by day five.

    In 2011, the flow rate through the spillway maxed out at 181,000 thousand cubic feet per second on day six.

    What makes this year different from 2011 is that there is a lot more water still upstream in the Arkansas, Missouri and Mississippi Rivers. Although the maximum rate at which the water is expected to flow through the spillway might be less, the overall amount of water released could top 2011 if the river remains high for a longer time period.
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  6. #86
    https://www.wafb.com/2019/06/05/impa...ond-louisiana/

    Impacts of river flooding felt far beyond Louisiana

    By Elizabeth Vowell | June 4, 2019 at 7:37 PM CDT - Updated June 4 at 9:41 PM
    BILOXI, Miss. (WAFB) - At the Institute for Marine Mammal Studies (IMMS) in Gulfport, Mississippi, sea lions, sea turtles, and dolphins serve as eager ambassadors of the sea. However, the researchers and scientists who work with the animals every day say their message lately may be dark one.

    “The dolphins being on top of the food chain are a very good biological indicator for the environment. They serve as a canary in the mine, so by watching them, we can predict where the environment will go,” said IMMS Director Dr. Moby Solangi. “It’s telling me there’s a huge amount of stress right now.”
    More than 120 wild dolphins and more than 140 sea turtles have washed up dead in the Mississippi Sound, the body of water that extends from the Mississippi coastline to the barrier islands, in the last six months. Solangi explains many bear fresh water lesions, which allow bacteria and fungus to grow, killing the animal. Scientists in Mississippi believe fresh water pouring in from Bonnet Carre Spillway in Louisiana may be to blame.

    We’ve never seen anything like this happen in the past,” said Solangi.
    Experts say the fresh water has dropped salt levels in the Sound. Usually in the summer, salinity levels register at around 22 parts per thousand, but recent measurements show only 0 to 5 parts per thousand. With the spillways being required more and more to help control Mississippi River flooding, researchers fear the Coast doesn’t have time to recover and readjust.
    Solangi also points out that the water coming into the Sound isn’t just fresh water, but Mississippi River water that could contain sediments and pollution from dozens of states.

    “Unfortunately, you know, this wasn’t predicted when all these things were designed in the 20s and 30s. We’re really seeing an major ecological issue. The oyster production is pretty much gone, the blue crab fishery and many other aspects. I think there’s a lot of concerns,” said Solangi.

    Like Louisiana, Mississippi’s seafood industry is also reportedly taking a hit from the fresh water inundation. Workers at the Gulfport Harbor Bait Shop say it’s almost impossible to catch shrimp locally because fresh water is driving them deep into the Gulf. They’ve been forced to buy shrimp from as far away as Florida to keep their wells stocked for fishermen and tourists.
    “Until that fresh water get out of here, we’re going to be in trouble for a while," said worker, James Stokes.

    Mississippi leaders say they understand the need for flood protection, but they say something else has to be done to protect the Coast from fresh water as well.
    “Of course lives are the most important, but livelihood is also important and quality of life is also. We feel like that has not been a factor in some of these equations,” said Biloxi Mayor Andrew “FoFo” Gillich.
    Gillich hosted a meeting with all coastal mayors and officials from the Mississippi Department of Marine Resources in an effort to share concerns and fight for what he calls a seat at the table when flood mitigation decisions are made. He believes there must be a way to mitigate flooding without devastating the environment at the same time.

    “Romans built aqueducts, right? So this is not putting somebody on the moon. Let’s figure out how the salinity can be maintained,” said Gillich.
    "...Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light. See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise, Redeeming the time, because the days are evil." - Ephesians 5:14-17

  7. #87
    https://www.weather.gov/lix/ms_flood_history

    Mississippi River flood history chart 1543-present
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    SOMEONE needs to take Fofo out back and teach him about chemistry and physics, ESPECIALLY in dynamic and LARGE quantity systems.
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  9. #89
    https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_ro...87a58643e.html

    Chance of flash flooding in south Louisiana increases: flood watch issued; 6 inches of rain possible

    ADVOCATE STAFF REPORT
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    JUN 5, 2019 - 6:59 AM

    Heavy rains and "widespread flash floods are expected" across south Louisiana and surrounding states, according to the National Weather Service. A flash flood watch in south Louisiana is in effect until Thursday night.

    A tropical disturbance in the Gulf of Mexico is expected to move across Texas and into southwest Louisiana today. The risk of flash flooding will shift eastward through Friday.

    The National Weather Service in New Orleans updated its rain projections Wednesday morning.

    New Orleans and Lafayette are expected to get up to 4-6 inches through Friday. Baton Rouge is expected to get between 3-4 inches.

    Lafayette and Baton Rouge are both at moderate risk of flash flooding today, while New Orleans is at a slight risk.

    On Thursday, Baton Rouge and New Orleans are at a moderate risk.

    The disturbance failed to develop into the second named storm of hurricane season but will still bring heavy rainfall to much of the southern U.S.

    MAPS AT LINK
    "...Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light. See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise, Redeeming the time, because the days are evil." - Ephesians 5:14-17

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    Mississippi River flooding cropland in Louisiana
    RT 1:52
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    Morganza full trip 5/27/2019 Louisiana Flooding 2019
    RT 34:41

    These guys say the date is March at the start of the video but it is actually May 27, 2019. They went up there a few days before I did (exactly a week to be precise). Hwy. 70 near Pierre Part is where the "Louisiana Sinkhole" is.
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    Anheuser Busch estate under water outside St. Louis

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/05/us/mi...ser/index.html

    "...Floodwaters from the nearby Mississippi River have enveloped the Anheuser Estate, south of St. Louis. The famed house was owned by Fred Anheuser, one of the great-grandchildren of beer businessman Eberhard Anheuser. Eberhard owned E. Anheuser & Co. and later partnered with son-in-law Adolphus Busch. Fred Anheuser's widow donated the house and 23 acres to the Missouri city of Kimmswick...."

    current images at link above

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    Aerial photo gallery in St. Louis Post Dispatch of flooding, really sad images of Grafton, Winfield and Alton.

    https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...8d0dc98.html#1

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    Eagle Lake Mississippi

    some good twitter hashtags to keep handy thru the Spillway opening on Sunday



    If It Keeps Rainin’@MSFloodFilm
    Eagle Lake, Mississippi. Flooded by the Backwater.

    #Documentary #Flood2019 #Film #politics #government #social #agriculture #farm #Mississippi #MississippiDelta

    https://twitter.com/MSFloodFilm/stat...84091543252992

  15. #95
    Lots of street flooding here today due to all the rain last night. More coming over night & tomorrow.

    ETA: Many areas got 4 inches in one hour. Lots of streets flooded in Lafayette, Baton Rouge and Port Allen. I think the worst of it is hitting New Orleans right now so I would expect some street flooding there. Got so much water here that two of my fruit trees are leaning over due to saturation of the soil around their roots.
    Last edited by BenIan; 06-06-2019 at 08:51 AM.
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    Firefighters rescue woman from flooded and floating car in Baton Rouge [VIDEO] RT 1:11

    http://twitter.com/wbrz/status/1136645887508340737?s=21
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  17. #97
    Thanks Ben, appreciate the updates.

    Upper MS is expecting rain for the next 4 days, and it looks like it all has to go through you guys first. Been raining here near all morning. We've been in a small drought, so all this is going straight into the ground. My grass is green again.

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    Hope you made it through the storm Ben. I got an alert that tornadoes are in the area and one even touched down in Baton Rouge near Baton Rouge General Hospital. Could be rumor though. For us its just now slowing down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terriannie View Post
    Hope you made it through the storm Ben. I got an alert that tornadoes are in the area and one even touched down in Baton Rouge near Baton Rouge General Hospital. Could be rumor though. For us its just now slowing down.
    There are pictures of cars overturned in the BR General parking lot. It touched down there. There are at least 3 verified touchdowns in populated areas.
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  20. #100
    https://www.wafb.com/2019/06/06/avoi...outputType=amp

    One dead after severe storm passes through south Louisiana

    BATON ROUGE, La. (WAFB) - At least one person is dead after a severe storm passed through south Louisiana.
    East Baton Rouge Parish Mayor Sharron Weston Broome confirmed the death during a press conference Thursday.
    Officials say the victim was found drowned in a vehicle. It happened at the entrance ramp on I-10 at Chippewa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BenIan View Post
    There are pictures of cars overturned in the BR General parking lot. It touched down there. There are at least 3 verified touchdowns in populated areas.
    Wow! So it is true! (Alerts are over here thank goodness.)

  22. #102
    https://www.wafb.com/2019/06/06/offi...t-open-sunday/

    Officials: Morganza Spillway will not open Sunday



    By Mykal Vincent | June 6, 2019 at 12:51 PM CDT - Updated June 6 at 1:38 PM
    MORGANZA, La. (WAFB) - A spokesperson for the Coastal Protection and Restoration Authority says the Morganza Spillway will not open Sunday.

    The date of the opening was pushed back to Sunday, June 9. On Wednesday, officials said they would only release 20% of the water they initially planned to send into the Atchafalaya Basin.

    On Thursday, a spokesperson for CPRA announced they would not be opening the spillway on Sunday.

    The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers released the following statement:

    Based on the current forecast, the Corps will not operate the Morganza Floodway on June 9th and does not have an expected operating date. Future weather events could impact Mississippi River levels and the Corps will continue to monitor the forecast daily as conditions can change. Operation of the structure will be a consideration until the Mississippi River crests and begins to fall. The expected crest at Morganza is on about June 15th, but it will then remain high for two weeks or more. The Army Corps of Engineers only intends to operate the structure when needed as to not put additional water into the Atchafalaya Basin.
    U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
    No new date has been set.

    More details still to come.

    Copyright 2019 WAFB. All rights reserved.
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  23. #103
    Frankly, I'm confused as to what is going on.

    Things that I know are true...

    1. The water level in every river, bayou, coulee and ditch around here is already elevated.

    2. The entire southern part of the state just got a very significant rain event that dropped 5-6 inches of rain in an hour.

    3. Water is piled just about as high as it can go at the ORCS and Morganza Spillways.

    4. Water was 5 feet from the levee top at Baton Rouge before today's flooding.

    5. The are untold amounts of water upstream that are headed this way.

    I'm not sure where they expect all this water to go if they don't open the spillway. Over the levees, I guess?
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  24. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by BenIan View Post
    Frankly, I'm confused as to what is going on.

    Things that I know are true...

    1. The water level in every river, bayou, coulee and ditch around here is already elevated.

    2. The entire southern part of the state just got a very significant rain event that dropped 5-6 inches of rain in an hour.

    3. Water is piled just about as high as it can go at the ORCS and Morganza Spillways.

    4. Water was 5 feet from the levee top at Baton Rouge before today's flooding.

    5. The are untold amounts of water upstream that are headed this way.

    I'm not sure where they expect all this water to go if they don't open the spillway. Over the levees, I guess?
    My GUESS is it's not raising upstream, as fast as they thought. Another thing may be that upstream flooding, is spreading out the flood waters and slowing the rise. Like I said though just guessing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaryC View Post
    My GUESS is it's not raising upstream, as fast as they thought. Another thing may be that upstream flooding, is spreading out the flood waters and slowing the rise. Like I said though just guessing.
    It rains here like every other day... so I'm not sure where you're getting your information from. Rivers are way up up here.
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    I just read a good article on the Christian Science monitor regarding the river changing course...I do not have a link but if you care to go there it will give a lay person analogy / example of the amount of water / flooding that could occur if the opening of the Old river control structure and the morganza spillway opening do not go smoothly. I also don’t know if they are an approved source of information..my apologies.

    I was up in the delta on Monday and the river is very high at Yazoo City but not as much water between it and Vicksburg (back water flooding) as there was when we had the real heavy rains earlier this year, which surprised me. That of course changes when you get about 10 miles north of Vicksburg.. right around the loggers cooperative mill area. Looks like an inland sea as far as you see.

    I tried to go to the flood wall in downtown Vicksburg but was not allowed in far enough to see the flood lines. There is also a picture of the faux riverboat casino at Vidalia, LA being moved...it will barely pass under the MS river bridge. I’m on a mobile device and can’t copy it over but I’m sure google can find it for you easily. It will put the height of the river in complete perspective.

    I’m with BenIan...I can’t figure out why they aren’t opening the spillways either...I tend to think they are not confident they can control the outflow and I’m sorry to say (cynically) they are waiting to see if there is a levee breath further north of LA or the Baton Rouge/ New Orleans. I hope like heck that I’m wrong but if the Army Corp of Engineers gets this wrong they will be blamed for a national disaster of epic proportions and unheard of consequences, which will literally cripple the nation. Not trying to fear monger at all just explaining what’s at stake.

    We got 3-5 inches of rain per hour at our home yesterday and my daughter was in Baton Rouge when the flooding / tornadoes were occurring...she said it terrifying. Glad I was in MS because they had very little rain where I was. All I can say is keep praying at this point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandcastle76 View Post
    I just read a good article on the Christian Science monitor regarding the river changing course...I do not have a link but if you care to go there it will give a lay person analogy / example of the amount of water / flooding that could occur if the opening of the Old river control structure and the morganza spillway opening do not go smoothly. I also don’t know if they are an approved source of information..my apologies.

    I was up in the delta on Monday and the river is very high at Yazoo City but not as much water between it and Vicksburg (back water flooding) as there was when we had the real heavy rains earlier this year, which surprised me. That of course changes when you get about 10 miles north of Vicksburg.. right around the loggers cooperative mill area. Looks like an inland sea as far as you see.

    I tried to go to the flood wall in downtown Vicksburg but was not allowed in far enough to see the flood lines. There is also a picture of the faux riverboat casino at Vidalia, LA being moved...it will barely pass under the MS river bridge. I’m on a mobile device and can’t copy it over but I’m sure google can find it for you easily. It will put the height of the river in complete perspective.

    I’m with BenIan...I can’t figure out why they aren’t opening the spillways either...I tend to think they are not confident they can control the outflow and I’m sorry to say (cynically) they are waiting to see if there is a levee breath further north of LA or the Baton Rouge/ New Orleans. I hope like heck that I’m wrong but if the Army Corp of Engineers gets this wrong they will be blamed for a national disaster of epic proportions and unheard of consequences, which will literally cripple the nation. Not trying to fear monger at all just explaining what’s at stake.

    We got 3-5 inches of rain per hour at our home yesterday and my daughter was in Baton Rouge when the flooding / tornadoes were occurring...she said it terrifying. Glad I was in MS because they had very little rain where I was. All I can say is keep praying at this point

    Thank you for the update, the good news is we have no rain in our forecast here in central Iowa for the next couple of days. I don't have any idea what the forecasts for Illinois and Indiana are at the moment, I know there are several large rivers there that drain into the Mississippi River.
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    People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe not willing to risk failure.

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    Rumors abound...here is a sample:

    1. Corps of engineers is worried the Morganza Spillway can't handle the strain of opening - therefore, the vague delay
    2. Someone(s) with money/political influence needs the delay in order for their flood insurance to kick in - therefore, the vague delay
    3. There's nothing to see here, everything is fine, quit overreacting - no need to open it, dummy, there's a baseball series this weekend, focus on what matters

    I don't have the answers. I'm just trying to be as observant as possible...and I'm concerned about the amount of water I see.
    "...Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light. See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise, Redeeming the time, because the days are evil." - Ephesians 5:14-17

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenIan View Post
    Rumors abound...here is a sample:

    1. Corps of engineers is worried the Morganza Spillway can't handle the strain of opening - therefore, the vague delay
    2. Someone(s) with money/political influence needs the delay in order for their flood insurance to kick in - therefore, the vague delay
    3. There's nothing to see here, everything is fine, quit overreacting - no need to open it, dummy, there's a baseball series this weekend, focus on what matters

    I don't have the answers. I'm just trying to be as observant as possible...and I'm concerned about the amount of water I see.

    I would be concerned about the amount of water as well. If the ACOE is worried it won't handle the strain of the opening does this mean it needs to be rebuilt, sorta like Oroville, CA?
    People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe not willing to risk failure.

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    Yep, heard the same rumors too. I like you, am very concerned about the water I see also. I guess patience is a double edged sword in this case. Thanks BI for all of your updates. That picture of the riverboat casino boat is terrifying to me since I routinely cross that bridge and know how high the normal height of the river usually is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by packyderms_wife View Post
    It rains here like every other day... so I'm not sure where you're getting your information from. Rivers are way up up here.
    I'm not getting any info, like I said just guessing. However if upriver flooding is happening, which it is, with several levee breeches, in Iowa, and around St. Louis, it means the river is getting wider, which will slow the rise down river. With any river and water it either gets wider as it floods plains, or deeper, at a certain point, it's both. And that is just a guess as to why they haven't opened the spillway. It could be anything from someone not knowing how to use a calculator, politics, or frozen locks.

    In 1973 had an Army buddy who lived on I 20 in Delhi, LA the MS river was in his front yard. All there was to see coming from Vicksburg (to pick him back up to go to base) was water everywhere, and a road, I20. And that's about 40 miles inland from the river.

  33. #113
    This is for info:

    NE MS was supposed to be under a 70% chance of rain for the next 4 days. Don't know about how much rain the spill way, up through the Vicksburg they received, but we have gotten a minimal amount. Sun been shinning here all day. However any rain here will go into the Tombigbee River, and flow to Mobile.

    Any rain in the Delta area, will of course flow into the Miss. River. Prayers for you guys down stream.

  34. #114
    http://talk1073.com/2019/06/07/col-m...anza-spillway/

    RT 6:35

    Colonel Michael Clancy from the U.S. Army Corps. of Engineers joined the show to talk with Brian about the Morganza Spillway. Col. Clancy explained the reasoning for not opening the spillway. He says that in order to open the Morganza, a lot of private property would have to be flooded and they don’t want to do that. He also says that just because they haven’t opened the spillway yet, doesn’t necessarily mean it won’t open. Colonel Clancy discusses that they have to wait until water from up north drains into the river.
    "...Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light. See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise, Redeeming the time, because the days are evil." - Ephesians 5:14-17

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    Lollie Levee at Conway/Fort Smith breached yesterday during the rain event and there was mandatory evac. There have been countless small bursts and ruptures in weak spots all over Illinois and Missouri, pouring into ditches and croplands not visible or important enough for media. Some no longer have access for media to view damage safely. These supposedly have "eased" pressure flowing down into the Mississippi but I don't buy that excuse. I am beginning to think they know the whole system is on verge of failure and they are just going to let it happen as its decrepit, out of date and they will use it as a "make work" project in the aftermath as a rebuild America mandate. The indecision and delay means they want to give everyone ample chance to get out ahead. I hope they have bought enough time for orderly escape.

    https://5newsonline.com/2019/06/06/c...ie-levee-area/

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    Wish I could get that one live weather map to post here, it shows the forecast for this weekend for the midwest and the gulf states.
    People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe not willing to risk failure.

  37. #117
    Views from above courtesy of Beryl Amedee. Swiped all of these off of tigerdroppings

    MORGANZA SPILLWAY FROM ABOVE - RIVER SIDE
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  38. #118
    ORCS from above (looking north to south...river on left)
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  39. #119
    Bonnet Carre Spillway (just upriver from New Orleans) - Lake Pontchatrain in the top right & Lake Maurepas in the top left, Airline Hwy. is the line through the middle, I-10 is the line running through the top middle
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  40. #120
    Bayou Chene barge sinking (near Morgan City)
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